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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 7:55:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: Dixie

BBC News at 6pm. I was in shot for seconds. Literally seconds! I have to say that the archive footage used was a bit poor. I don't remember the Luftwaffe sending formations of Flying Fortresses against the airfields or Fighter Command using P-47s. Or the Luftwaffe using Bf-109G fighters.

Oh well, now I just sit back and wait for the requests to flood in. I expect to be opening a hospital this time next week

Nice Martin - send us a link if / when you find it!

BTW, reporters are as ignorant as ever (if not even more) these days... <SIGH>

Most (90+%) of them have no clue about history... and popular satellite / cable programs doesn't help either... the "history" they present on various channels is appalling...

Few days ago I saw (partially of course - my wife told me that I was swearing at TV shouting that what they show is ridiculous):

#1
Seconds from Disaster - The Bismarck

The premise was that the UK would surrender if Bismarck mission succeeded (and, of course that Bismarck was biggest and strongest battleship of all times)...

#2
Greatest Tank Battles - Stalingrad

The premise was that Soviets would capitulate if Germans won in Stalingrad...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 1:47:50 PM

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 3:10:50 PM

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#1
Seconds from Disaster - The Bismarck

The premise was that the UK would surrender if Bismarck mission succeeded (and, of course that Bismarck was biggest and strongest battleship of all times)...

Well, they would have surrendered, wouldn't they? I mean weren't they perennially on the verge of surrendering throughout both world wars? Cuz nuthin' says surrender like the Brits, IMO.

Also, Bismarck was the best battleship of all time. Until she was scuttled.

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#2
Greatest Tank Battles - Stalingrad

The premise was that Soviets would capitulate if Germans won in Stalingrad...

Well, they would have surrendered, wouldn't they? I mean weren't they perennially on the verge of surrendering throughout both world wars? Cuz nuthin' says surrender like the Ruskies, IMO.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 3:17:40 PM

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"History" on TV is nothing more than "entertainment." If you think of it that way, sometimes you get pleasantly surprised by an actual fact.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 4:08:04 PM

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 6:40:46 PM

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Approximately 2.5 work days until we can move into our new place.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 7:04:39 PM

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Moving! You poor bastard.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 7:46:27 PM

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"History" on TV is nothing more than "entertainment." If you think of it that way, sometimes you get pleasantly surprised by an actual fact.

I have enjoyed the "Men Who Built America" series every Tuesday night so far...even if the characters look nothing like their real life counterpart.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 7:54:02 PM

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Moving! You poor bastard.

Meh. We've been living out of suitcases for like 2 and half months now...

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 8:03:21 PM

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Part of the moving process. I am done for life. Knock on wood.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 8:26:48 PM

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But Steve loves it. Dont you Steve?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 8:39:04 PM

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Heh ... I feel your pain Comrade Red Mouse. Just started to pack my cartons ...

Luckily for me, it's a short hop within the city.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 9:06:39 PM

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But Steve loves it. Dont you Steve?

Perhaps you'd like to join me next July when I get to move to a "mystery destination"?

Maybe St. Louis, maybe Jacksonville, maybe "who-the-hell-knows?".

But I'd be delighted to share the "joy" of the "moving experience" with you. Sometimes I wish U-haul has chosen a different motto then "Adventures in Moving" . How about "a really easy job with no drama"? It's not catch, but it would be very welcome!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 9:08:20 PM

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Heh ... I feel your pain Comrade Red Mouse. Just started to pack my cartons ...

Luckily for me, it's a short hop within the city.

After the 1st 3,000 mile move , it's all downhill. Of course the 8-9,000 mile moves still really suck!

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 9:10:50 PM

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But Steve loves it. Dont you Steve?

Perhaps you'd like to join me next July when I get to move to a "mystery destination"? Maybe St. Louis, maybe Jacksonville, maybe "who-the-hell-knows?". But I'd be delighted to share the "joy" of the "moving experience" with you. Sometimes I wish U-haul has chosen a different motto then "Adventures in Moving" . How about "a really easy job with no drama"? It's not catch, but it would be very welcome!

Pisek, North Dakota?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 9:12:20 PM

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Also, Bismarck was the best battleship of all time.

Er no CB, that would be the rather beautiful old lady in my sig line - fact

and I'm not even biased....

quote:

Until she was scuttled.

I think you will find though that she was not scuttled at all. HMS Rodney and HMS KGV spent 24 hours trying to inflict damage on the German wonder ship - without success. Meanwhile, Rafe McCauley, who was en vacances in Ireland, recovering from the Doolittle Raid (during which he personally laid waste to Tokyo) got wind of the naval contretemps and hired a fishing boat which he loaded with some spare torpedoes he found lying around.

To save the RN from further ignominy and defeat, he sailed single handed (with only Kate Beckinsale and Matt Damon for company) in the fishing boat to the battle zone. Once there he immediately launched said torpedoes and sunk the pride of the Kriegsmarine. The British claimed the credit, and in the name of Allied togetherness, Rafe kept Schtum.

Only now, thanks to Michael Bay, can the true story be told. Coming to a cinema near you soon "Sink the Bismarck? F^&* Yeah".

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 9:28:35 PM

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But Steve loves it. Dont you Steve?

Perhaps you'd like to join me next July when I get to move to a "mystery destination"? Maybe St. Louis, maybe Jacksonville, maybe "who-the-hell-knows?". But I'd be delighted to share the "joy" of the "moving experience" with you. Sometimes I wish U-haul has chosen a different motto then "Adventures in Moving" . How about "a really easy job with no drama"? It's not catch, but it would be very welcome!

Pisek, North Dakota?

That would be most unlikely , but preferrable to SOME places the Government has sent me.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 9:50:36 PM

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That would be most unlikely , but preferrable to SOME places the Government has sent me.

Well, I hope that you can send me back the turn before you have to pack up, Steve.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 9:54:49 PM

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After reading/hearing about Steves moving activities I'm quite happy that Sweden is such a small country. I could barely squeeze in a 1000 mile move if I tried really hard to make it happen

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 10:07:40 PM

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But Steve loves it. Dont you Steve?

Perhaps you'd like to join me next July when I get to move to a "mystery destination"? Maybe St. Louis, maybe Jacksonville, maybe "who-the-hell-knows?". But I'd be delighted to share the "joy" of the "moving experience" with you. Sometimes I wish U-haul has chosen a different motto then "Adventures in Moving" . How about "a really easy job with no drama"? It's not catch, but it would be very welcome!

Pratt, KS is a wonderful spot.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 10:10:25 PM

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That would be most unlikely , but preferrable to SOME places the Government has sent me.

Well, I hope that you can send me back the turn before you have to pack up, Steve.

No problem. In fact I should be able to SEND YOU packing by then.

That is to say your LYB electron-troopers! And in fact, if we were to do it in spring , we could do one more "Mid-America" summit before I'm off to where ever.

On the other hand, if I'm really, really lucky , and Santa brings me what I want , we could hold a "Northern Florida summit!".

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 10:12:47 PM

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After reading/hearing about Steves moving activities I'm quite happy that Sweden is such a small country. I could barely squeeze in a 1000 mile move if I tried really hard to make it happen

Unless Sweden decides to purchase Guam, or opens a base in , oh say Japan, you probably won't need to worry about such a posting. On the other hand , at almost every embassy you DO have defense attaches. Isn't most of the billets within your paygrade?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 10:14:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

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But Steve loves it. Dont you Steve?

Perhaps you'd like to join me next July when I get to move to a "mystery destination"? Maybe St. Louis, maybe Jacksonville, maybe "who-the-hell-knows?". But I'd be delighted to share the "joy" of the "moving experience" with you. Sometimes I wish U-haul has chosen a different motto then "Adventures in Moving" . How about "a really easy job with no drama"? It's not catch, but it would be very welcome!

Pratt, KS is a wonderful spot.

I'm sure it is. Does it have a large USN/USAF base ? If not, then I'm pretty sure that I'm not going there.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 10:20:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: Grollub

After reading/hearing about Steves moving activities I'm quite happy that Sweden is such a small country. I could barely squeeze in a 1000 mile move if I tried really hard to make it happen

Unless Sweden decides to purchase Guam, or opens a base in , oh say Japan, you probably won't need to worry about such a posting. On the other hand , at almost every embassy you DO have defense attaches. Isn't most of the billets within your paygrade?

Purchasing Guam sounds like a good idea and a lot warmer as well. Thanks for the tip

The defense attache posts could very well have been within my reach, if it wasn't for the fact that I've found my "cozy spot" at the defense college and thus feel no need to do such a career move

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 10:24:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: Grollub

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

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ORIGINAL: Grollub

After reading/hearing about Steves moving activities I'm quite happy that Sweden is such a small country. I could barely squeeze in a 1000 mile move if I tried really hard to make it happen

Unless Sweden decides to purchase Guam, or opens a base in , oh say Japan, you probably won't need to worry about such a posting. On the other hand , at almost every embassy you DO have defense attaches. Isn't most of the billets within your paygrade?

Purchasing Guam sounds like a good idea and a lot warmer as well. Thanks for the tip

The defense attache posts could very well have been within my reach, if it wasn't for the fact that I've found my "cozy spot" at the defense college and thus feel no need to do such a career move

What? You've no desire to summer in Washington DC/ (Shudder) or be the defense attache to "East Ubanga"?

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 10:28:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

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ORIGINAL: Grollub

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

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ORIGINAL: Grollub

After reading/hearing about Steves moving activities I'm quite happy that Sweden is such a small country. I could barely squeeze in a 1000 mile move if I tried really hard to make it happen

Unless Sweden decides to purchase Guam, or opens a base in , oh say Japan, you probably won't need to worry about such a posting. On the other hand , at almost every embassy you DO have defense attaches. Isn't most of the billets within your paygrade?

Purchasing Guam sounds like a good idea and a lot warmer as well. Thanks for the tip

The defense attache posts could very well have been within my reach, if it wasn't for the fact that I've found my "cozy spot" at the defense college and thus feel no need to do such a career move

What? You've no desire to summer in Washington DC/ (Shudder) or be the defense attache to "East Ubanga"?

In remembrance of Terminus;

"No".

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 10:35:42 PM

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"East Ubanga"?

Ubanga? Isn't that what Berlusconi had at his lavish parties?

On a personal note: I'm so very disappointed to hear that he won't be running for a fourth term. He was always great comedic humor fodder. There hasn't been a European with such an impact on the humor front since...well...Generalisimo Francisco Franco.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 10:39:34 PM

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Also, Bismarck was the best battleship of all time.

Er no CB, that would be the rather beautiful old lady in my sig line - fact and I'm not even biased....

quote:

Until she was scuttled.

I think you will find though that she was not scuttled at all. HMS Rodney and HMS KGV spent 24 hours trying to inflict damage on the German wonder ship - without success. Meanwhile, Rafe McCauley, who was en vacances in Ireland, recovering from the Doolittle Raid (during which he personally laid waste to Tokyo) got wind of the naval contretemps and hired a fishing boat which he loaded with some spare torpedoes he found lying around.

To save the RN from further ignominy and defeat, he sailed single handed (with only Kate Beckinsale and Matt Damon for company) in the fishing boat to the battle zone. Once there he immediately launched said torpedoes and sunk the pride of the Kriegsmarine. The British claimed the credit, and in the name of Allied togetherness, Rafe kept Schtum.

Only now, thanks to Michael Bay, can the true story be told. Coming to a cinema near you soon "Sink the Bismarck? F^&* Yeah".

Before starting my last AE game, I had thoughts on modding the pilot roster adding the pilot "Rafe McCauley". He would then have spent MY entire war flying a Stearman out of Nome, Alaska.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 10:44:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: Grollub

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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Also, Bismarck was the best battleship of all time.

Er no CB, that would be the rather beautiful old lady in my sig line - fact and I'm not even biased....

quote:

Until she was scuttled.

I think you will find though that she was not scuttled at all. HMS Rodney and HMS KGV spent 24 hours trying to inflict damage on the German wonder ship - without success. Meanwhile, Rafe McCauley, who was en vacances in Ireland, recovering from the Doolittle Raid (during which he personally laid waste to Tokyo) got wind of the naval contretemps and hired a fishing boat which he loaded with some spare torpedoes he found lying around.

To save the RN from further ignominy and defeat, he sailed single handed (with only Kate Beckinsale and Matt Damon for company) in the fishing boat to the battle zone. Once there he immediately launched said torpedoes and sunk the pride of the Kriegsmarine. The British claimed the credit, and in the name of Allied togetherness, Rafe kept Schtum.

Only now, thanks to Michael Bay, can the true story be told. Coming to a cinema near you soon "Sink the Bismarck? F^&* Yeah".

Before starting my last AE game, I had thoughts on modding the pilot roster adding the pilot "Rafe McCauley". He would then have spent MY entire war flying a Stearman out of Nome, Alaska.

It might have been more entertaining to have him flying a P-26 in the PI on the opening morning.

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RE: THE THREAD!!! - 10/24/2012 10:50:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

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ORIGINAL: Grollub

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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Also, Bismarck was the best battleship of all time.

Er no CB, that would be the rather beautiful old lady in my sig line - fact and I'm not even biased....

quote:

Until she was scuttled.

I think you will find though that she was not scuttled at all. HMS Rodney and HMS KGV spent 24 hours trying to inflict damage on the German wonder ship - without success. Meanwhile, Rafe McCauley, who was en vacances in Ireland, recovering from the Doolittle Raid (during which he personally laid waste to Tokyo) got wind of the naval contretemps and hired a fishing boat which he loaded with some spare torpedoes he found lying around.

To save the RN from further ignominy and defeat, he sailed single handed (with only Kate Beckinsale and Matt Damon for company) in the fishing boat to the battle zone. Once there he immediately launched said torpedoes and sunk the pride of the Kriegsmarine. The British claimed the credit, and in the name of Allied togetherness, Rafe kept Schtum.

Only now, thanks to Michael Bay, can the true story be told. Coming to a cinema near you soon "Sink the Bismarck? F^&* Yeah".

Before starting my last AE game, I had thoughts on modding the pilot roster adding the pilot "Rafe McCauley". He would then have spent MY entire war flying a Stearman out of Nome, Alaska.

It might have been more entertaining to have him flying a P-26 in the PI on the opening morning.