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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/3/2012 8:19:06 AM   
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Quiz 6
1. I do not have my own counter in WIF
2. I did not survive WWII
3. I begin WIF as one type of generic counter and then become another
4. I have a blue counter
5. I was the first of my kind
6. In real life I started the war as a grey counter (until March 1940) and finished my life as a blue counter.
7. I was sunk by a u-boat in December 1941

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/3/2012 9:44:49 AM   
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Quiz 6
1. I do not have my own counter in WIF
2. I did not survive WWII
3. I begin WIF as one type of generic counter and then become another
4. I have a blue counter
5. I was the first of my kind
6. In real life I started the war as a grey counter (until March 1940) and finished my life as a blue counter.
7. I was sunk by a u-boat in December 1941

I have to surrender on this one. I do not know name or story of any German merchant captured by CW and then put to use in another role by CW.

With that said I decided to look it up on wikipedia so now I know the story.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/3/2012 10:08:42 AM   
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Quiz 6
1. I do not have my own counter in WIF
2. I did not survive WWII
3. I begin WIF as one type of generic counter and then become another
4. I have a blue counter
5. I was the first of my kind
6. In real life I started the war as a grey counter (until March 1940) and finished my life as a blue counter.
7. I was sunk by a u-boat in December 1941

I have to surrender on this one. I do not know name or story of any German merchant captured by CW and then put to use in another role by CW.

With that said I decided to look it up on wikipedia so now I know the story.
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Well no one else seems to be playing so I will end it there. The answer is HMS Audacity, the first escort carrier. She was a German merchant vessel - the Hannover - until captured by HMS Dunedin. She was converted and gave brief, but invaluable service, in escorting convoys between Gib and the UK (iirc).

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/3/2012 12:49:51 PM   
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Well no one else seems to be playing so I will end it there. The answer is HMS Audacity, the first escort carrier. She was a German merchant vessel - the Hannover - until captured by HMS Dunedin. She was converted and gave brief, but invaluable service, in escorting convoys between Gib and the UK (iirc).



The first escort carrier was USS Long Island (AVG-1, CVG-1, and CVE-1) (ex Mormacmail (USA)) commissioned June 2, 1941

The first British escort carrier was HMS Audacity (D 10) (ex Hannover (German), ex Sinbad (British), and ex Empire Audacity (British)) commissioned June 17, 1941


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/3/2012 1:22:39 PM   
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Well no one else seems to be playing so I will end it there. The answer is HMS Audacity, the first escort carrier. She was a German merchant vessel - the Hannover - until captured by HMS Dunedin. She was converted and gave brief, but invaluable service, in escorting convoys between Gib and the UK (iirc).



The first escort carrier was USS Long Island (AVG-1, CVG-1, and CVE-1) (ex Mormacmail (USA)) commissioned June 2, 1941

The first British escort carrier was HMS Audacity (D 10) (ex Hannover (German), ex Sinbad (British), and ex Empire Audacity (British)) commissioned June 17, 1941

warspite1

USS Long Island was the first escort carrier to be commissioned. However, by any other measure Audacity was the first of her kind.

No doubt because of America's greater production capacity (or maybe because conversion was easier (Mormacmail having been built originally under USMC contract) Long Island was converted quicker. However:

Audacity was taken for conversion earlier than Long Island January vs March
Audacity was the first escort carrier to see operational service
Audacity was the first escort carrier to escort a convoy (13th September 1941) - n.b. Long Island was used mostly as a training and ferry carrier.


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/3/2012 6:08:32 PM   
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Project commissioning is the process of assuring that all systems and components of a building or industrial plant are designed, installed, tested, operated, and maintained according to the operational requirements of the owner or final client. A commissioning process may be applied not only to new projects but also to existing units and systems subject to expansion, renovation or revamping.

Ship commissioning is the act or ceremony of placing a ship in active service, and may be regarded as a particular application of the general concepts and practices of project commissioning. The term is most commonly applied to the placing of a warship in active duty with its country's military forces. The ceremonies involved are often rooted in centuries old naval tradition.

Just because it started project commissioning first doesn't make it the first escort carrier. This can take extremely long periods of time (if ever) to complete.

When the ship begins active service with its country's military forces makes it the first escort carrier.

USS Long Island was commissioned into its country's military forces first so it is the first escort carrier.



http://www.royalnavyresearcharchive.org.uk/ESCORT/AUDACITY.htm

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HMS AUDACITY was the first escort carrier built for the Royal Navy : originally launched March 29th 1939 as the German passenger-cargo liner MV Hanover, she was captured by HMS Dunedin on March 8th 1940 trying to run the blockade in the West Indies, before she could be scuttled by her crew.

Impressed into service by the Admiralty she was initially renamed Sinbad. She was commissioned as an Ocean Boarding vessel on 11 November 1940 as HMS Empire Audacity. This was a short lived as she was selected for conversion into Britain's first escort carrier. Work commenced in Bootle on January 22nd 1942, the conversion was completed by Blyth Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company Northumberland. Work was completed in early June 1941. The ship re-commissioned on June 17 as HMS Audacity.



Naval History Net Service Histories by Name, Type, and Class

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First Royal Navy Auxiliary Aircraft Carrier which, as German mercantile HANNOVER, was captured on 8th March 1940 when intercepted in the West Indies by HM Cruiser DUNEDIN and HM Canadian Destroyer ASSINIBOINE. She had been laid down for use as a Refrigerated Cargo Ship and had completed build at Bremen in May 1939. The ship was requisitioned by the Admiralty and in November 1940 was taken in hand for conversion as a Ocean Boarding Vessel named SINBAD. However in January 1941 she was selected for deployment as the first mercantile to be converted for use as an escort aircraft carrier. The changes made included removal of existing superstructure to allow fit of a wooden flight deck for the full length of the ship. The work was carried out by Blyth Dock SB and the ship commissioned as EMPIRE AUDACITY on 20th June 1941. Ballast had to be added to ensure stability and this ship was fitted with a new design radar for aircraft warning purposes, Type 79B. The first of this type, which used only one mast had been fitted in HM Battlecruiser HOOD shortly before her loss in May 1941 (See RADAR AT SEA by D Howse.) Six fighter aircraft were to be carried and had to be kept on the flight deck as no hangar was provided. The name was changed to HMS AUDACITY after conversion in order to avoid confusion with other mercantiles entering service after September 1939 either as new or captured vessels used for trade.



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Named for the body of water between the southern shore of Connecticut and the northern coast of Long Island, N.Y. (A previous USS Long Island was a converted steam trawler which retained her original, civilian name).
Built under a Maritime Commission contract (hull number 47) as the civilian freighter Mormacmail (1st,) type C3-S-A1, for the Moore-McCormack Lines (Mooremack.) Sponsored by Miss Diane B. Holt, the 16-year old daughter of Mr. George L. Holt, vice president of Mooremack.
Acquired by the Navy on 6 March 1941.
Converted to an aircraft carrier by the Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock Co., Newport News, Va. Initially designated APV-1, but re-designated and commissioned as AVG-1 June 2, 1941.
Reclassified as an "Auxiliary Aircraft Carrier" and re-designated ACV-1, 20 August 1942.
Reclassified as an "Escort Carrier" and re-designated CVE-1, 15 July 1943.
Fate: sold to Zidell Ship Dismantling Co., Portland, Oregon 24 April 1947 for scrapping. Resold to the Canada-Europe Line, 12 March 1948, and converted for merchant service as Nelly by Albina Engineering & Machine Works, Portland, OR. Sold to the University of the Seven Seas (1953), renamed Seven Seas (German flag) and converted into a school ship. Hulked at Rotterdam as a floating students hostel (1966), later to become a local hostel for shipyard workers. Scrapped at Ghent, Belgium (May 1977).


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The Kaiser or Casablanca Class were the first escort carriers to be built as such from the keel up.




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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/3/2012 6:59:53 PM   
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I know!!!!

Leonard Lipshits!

He was on Patton's staff during the invasion of Sicily!!!

Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!? Do I win!?!?

No, you don't...

Who am I?

1. I have no counter in WiF, however, I was part of one
2. From 1914 till 1964 I was in the army, when there was one in my country...

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/4/2012 1:05:03 PM   
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Who am I?

1. I have no counter in WiF, however, I was part of one
2. From 1914 till 1964 I was in the army, when there was one in my country...
3. I was called before a court of honor and among my judges, there were two WiF counters. I was found "not guilty, but still a suspect".

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/4/2012 4:11:25 PM   
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ok #1...Fuso/Yamashiro?
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Patton_71 nice try, but I have re-checked my records and there was no ship named Fuso/Yamashiro in WWII

Be nice. I suspect that he guessed on the ships Fuso or Yamashiro and since I suspect that it could very well be one of these two ships I will refrain from answering.
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I was being nice - I have practically confirmed that it is one of these two. That is very gentlemanly to let Patton_71 have the guess first.
warspite1

Looks like Patton_71 has given up so...

....the answer was Yamashiro

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/4/2012 9:03:57 PM   
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Who am I?

1. I have no counter in WiF, however, I was part of one
2. From 1914 till 1964 I was in the army, when there was one in my country...
3. I was called before a court of honor and among my judges, there were two WiF counters. I was found "not guilty, but still a suspect".

Clue two made me think of Germany but I can't think of a General that fits.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/5/2012 2:02:00 PM   
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Gerd von Rundstedt and Col. Gen Heinz Guderian were the leaders.

The Army Court of Honour was for Operation Walküre (Valkyrie), July 20, 1944.

1914 - 1964 I have no clue except:

General Hans Speidel

Military service 1914 - 1963

Commander-in-Chief of the Allied NATO ground forces in Central Europe in April 1957, a command that he held until retirement in September 1963.



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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/5/2012 6:46:47 PM   
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Gerd von Rundstedt and Col. Gen Heinz Guderian were the leaders.

The Army Court of Honour was for Operation Walküre (Valkyrie), July 20, 1944.

1914 - 1964 I have no clue except:

General Hans Speidel

Military service 1914 - 1963

Commander-in-Chief of the Allied NATO ground forces in Central Europe in April 1957, a command that he held until retirement in September 1963.




Correct:

Who am I?

1. I have no counter in WiF, however, I was part of one
2. From 1914 till 1964 I was in the army, when there was one in my country...
3. I was called before a court of honor and among my judges, there were two WiF counters. I was found "not guilty, but still a suspect".
4. Famous quote: "The victors always write the history and they're always wrong."
5. Another WiF counter became my political adversery.
6. My brother was a general too, however, he was found guilty of war crimes and sentenced to 20 years in prison
7. I served under the desert fox, however not in the desert...


Hans Speidel retired from the German army in march 1964 (not in september 1963, when he was replaced as commander of COMLANDCENT). For German readers:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Speidel

A couple of months ago, there was a small documentary film on German television (which we can watch in the Netherlands), after which I became curious about this general. Through the public library here, I was able to read a copy of his book : "Invasion 1944. Ein Beitrag zu Rommels und des Reiches Schicksal", which handels the period of the invasion, the attempted murder of Hitler and the following months at the HQ of Rommel. Quite interesting to read, it was.




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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/5/2012 8:28:03 PM   
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Who am I?


1. I have no counter in WiF, however, one can say that I'm the successor of one...


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/6/2012 6:36:26 PM   
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Who am I?


1. I have no counter in WiF, however, one can say that I'm the successor of one...

2. I lost my life while using the same means of transportation in which the WiF counter was killed...


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/6/2012 6:44:45 PM   
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Gen Patton

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/6/2012 6:46:45 PM   
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Gen patton is an inside joke to my wife. There was a car accident in which my WiF game got trashed.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/7/2012 6:16:34 PM   
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Gen patton is an inside joke to my wife. There was a car accident in which my WiF game got trashed.


Oops... You won't be surprised that Patton isn't the one I'm looking for...

Who am I?


1. I have no counter in WiF, however, one can say that I'm the successor of one...

2. I lost my life while using the same means of transportation in which the WiF counter was killed...

3. I argued with my predecessor about the use of naval aviation, however, events soon proved that my position was outdated, so I adopted a lot of his visions in my battle plans.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/7/2012 11:19:23 PM   
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Koga Mineichi?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineichi_Koga

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/8/2012 8:00:49 PM   
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Koga Mineichi?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineichi_Koga


And we have a winner...

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/9/2012 8:31:58 PM   
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What World War II United States of America destroyer was named for a United States Marine Corps Major General




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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/9/2012 11:16:27 PM   
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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/10/2012 5:42:23 AM   
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paulderynck I was intrigued by your answer but I think you are way off base here. I have thumbed all my books, trawled the internet and asked some friends, knowledgable in the WWII era. However, as far as I can tell there was no USS deleted, much less a Major-General deleted.

Can you share your source please?


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/10/2012 12:19:30 PM   
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Two weeks before his nineteenth birthday he was promoted to captain by brevit for his rescue of a brother officer at the Battle of Tientsin (China) on July 13, 1900. Commissioned officers were not eligible to receive the Medal of Honor at that time.

He was awarded his first Medal of Honor for his actions durring the United States occupation of Veracruz, Mexico April 1914.

He was awarded his second Medal of Honor and the Haitian Medal of Honor for his actions against Fort Riviere, Haiti on November 1915.


The destroyer saw action in the Mediterranean, Normandy, and the Pacific.



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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/11/2012 10:04:23 PM   
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Only 19 men (and two Marines) have received the Congressional Medal of Honor twice for two separate acts of heroism.

Sergeant Major Daniel Joseph (Dan) Daly

And one Major General.


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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/12/2012 10:02:19 AM   
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Gleaves-class Destroyer USS Butler (DD-636) named for Major General Smedley Darlington Butler (USMC)

Fletcher-class Destroyer USS Daly (DD-519) named for Sergeant Major Daniel Joseph (Dan) Daly (USMC)



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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 11/27/2012 11:32:40 PM   
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What WWII monoplane had a machine-gun in only one wing?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 12/4/2012 6:17:59 AM   
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What WWII monoplane had a machine-gun in only one wing?


OK, some hints. This plane has a WiF counter. Part of this plane's name is distinctly un-warlike when you hear it pronounced.

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 12/4/2012 6:18:27 AM   
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What WWII plane has a WiF counter and had 6 engines?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 12/4/2012 6:19:32 AM   
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What WWII plane has a WiF counter and did not use a petroleum based fuel?

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RE: OT - WWII quiz - 12/4/2012 11:22:44 AM   
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Blohm + Voss BV 222...=6 :P


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