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RE: Sun Damage - 12/9/2012 4:27:45 PM

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...or maybe use PP's and free a division from Hawaii.

Can you buy out the Aussies? Seems like the Jap high water mark in Oz will make for light work for them now.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/9/2012 4:38:12 PM

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One thought about this particular theater of operations .. in my opinion, it is the Solomon's on steroids and I doubt if the IJ will make the mistake of real life not purusing/engaging like Leyte Gulf ....

Mostly agree. However, unlike the Solomons, there is an immediate strategic threat to JJ's SLOC. That makes this fight that much more important for both sides to have.

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Just a thought ... Big risk vs. reward situation ..

Yes. There will be blood.

It's a good time for the Arries to do this, IMO. No kamikaze worries for 10 months means that they can secure the left shoulder of their Phillipines endeavour [sic] and cut off the DEI almost entirely from the home islands before then.

This would be more difficult an endeavour [sic] with kamikazes, that's certain. From what I understand they have a seemingly magnetic attraction to escort carriers, thereby mitigating CVE usage in this environment.

I absoutely agree with you. In my one and only AAR my entire focus was on Burma to end up in Saigon and to island hop to Davao to simply cut off the fuel supply from the DEI. My only comment was based on the Cap's aggressive plan in my view.

Thus I also agree .. this is the time in which CVE's can escort xAK's to defend against LBA .. but the SAG's also have to be accounted for as the IJ will go nuts to defend this very vulnerable area. My comments were based on maybe LBA will be a threat but expect lot's of night surface actions.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/9/2012 7:19:27 PM

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Can you do it with Vicky, Hermes and the three CVE's in the IO, plus PoW, Resolution and Colorado? I'm thinking use the full Aus I Corps and Br 18th at Ramree and really unhinge their position in Burma.

But we would need Br 2nd for Luzon as 32nd ID is bereft of infantry...or maybe use PP's and free a division from Hawaii.

Yep, I can do Ramree with that. JJ probably won't be paying too much attention to Burma by then. I also have 18th UK Div on their way. Should be a good rumble in the jungle.

You can have 2nd UK Div for Luzon. I think 32nd ID might need a lot of refitting before they are combat ready again.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/9/2012 7:20:45 PM

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--Good question. They wont' be able to land in Norhtern Lzuon or Manila so it would have to be SE Luzon. In that case it would have to be Wasp, Yorktown and 3 BB's. I was hoping they would run out of troops.

I'll leave that one up to you. But I think we've knocked quite a few LYBs on the head already.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/9/2012 7:22:22 PM

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...or maybe use PP's and free a division from Hawaii.

Can you buy out the Aussies? Seems like the Jap high water mark in Oz will make for light work for them now.

The boys from Wyndham are pretty fired up and ready to go.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/9/2012 9:58:42 PM

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--Good question. They wont' be able to land in Norhtern Lzuon or Manila so it would have to be SE Luzon. In that case it would have to be Wasp, Yorktown and 3 BB's. I was hoping they would run out of troops.

I'll leave that one up to you. But I think we've knocked quite a few LYBs on the head already.

On that note, just how many LYBs are touring POW Camp NOz now? Don't you have something like 30K looking for manna in the wilderness?

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 2:26:42 AM

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--Good question. They wont' be able to land in Norhtern Lzuon or Manila so it would have to be SE Luzon. In that case it would have to be Wasp, Yorktown and 3 BB's. I was hoping they would run out of troops.

I'll leave that one up to you. But I think we've knocked quite a few LYBs on the head already.

On that note, just how many LYBs are touring POW Camp NOz now? Don't you have something like 30K looking for manna in the wilderness?

Way more than 30K. At least 50K are now undead at Port Hedrand. More at Wyndham and maybe 15-20K South of Darwin. At least 10K future undead at Broome. There are 1 1/2 divisions trapped on Dobo.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 2:43:45 AM

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************Back Room, Bali Hai Club, Dadjangas, Feb 24, 1943(c)************

Man in fine linen slacks: ...look, Ito-san, please tell your boss you need to get your orders in sooner.

Captain Ito: General Yamashita say we need 10,000 cases Emperor Brand Koor-Aide.

Man in fine linen slacks: 10,000 cases! Ito-san there is a war on....Look, General Yamashita is a good customer. I'll do my best. Sweetened or unsweetened?

Captain Ito: Sweetened prease. Soldiers not-ah rike unsweetened.

Man in fine linen slacks: OK, but that's $25 a case

Captain Ito: 25$! Genral Yamashita be very unhappy!

Man in fine linen slacks: Look, Ito-san. You guys started this thing. There are Nazi subs all over the Caribbean. There is a sugar ration. Money talks.

Captain Ito: OK. $25 dorrers.

Man in fine linen slacks: Splendid! I'm glad you saw it my way. Where to?

Captain Ito: Broome.

Man in fine linen slacks: Broome it is! <begins walking IJN Captain to door> Say, ito-san, you seeing anyone these days.............

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 8:57:37 AM

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or maybe use PP's and free a division from Hawaii.

If you need to spend PPs go ahead, I don't need any for the foreseeable future.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 3:19:58 PM

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Air losses from the 24th. Looks like the Kitchen Sink Air Force of Assam bested the Shinto Boys.

Satisfyingly, none of the 17's were downed over Kopeang. They may have shot a couple of Tojos. It looks like, from ground losses, there are Ann's at Palau. Not much of a threat to the Sulu Sea

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 3:43:22 PM

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Infantry inventory (does not include heavily engaged troops or Timor):

USMC:

22nd &23rd Rgt...Suva (envisioned for the Solomons but...)

8th...amphibious group near Ternate (prepped for Dajangas but could go elsewhere)

5th...Merauke (undestrength due to fight over New Scotland)

7th...Derby (in good shape)

1st Marine Para Bn...Derby

2nd Raider Bn....Saumlaki

1st Raider Bn....aboard APD's, prepped for Jolo

US Army:

503rd PIR...Dajangas and 1 coy at Jolo

Cavalry Regt...Auckland..I think they might actually have horses

Could buy one Hawaiian Regt.

32nd ID....Port Hedrand (Almost no infantry)

Aus:

8th Div....forming at Townesville (poor in support squads but unrestricted)

1st Para...Sydney (they actually have parachutes)

Could buy one restricted brigade.

NZ:

30th Bn...amphibious load..I think they are prepped for Zamboanga on Mindanao

British:

2nd Div....Port Hedrand (recovering disablement but comabat able)

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 3:59:33 PM

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My white elephant gift from the party is a talking doll. You press her hand and she says things like..."I'm bored. Let's shave my *****"

I tried to get someone to take it from me but no takers. I am pretty sure it will escape its packaging one night and stab me in the heart....or worse. Creepy as Hell.

No disrobing at the party (of which I am aware). There was plenty of deep fried calamari (5 golden rings) and some dericious baked pears stuffed with blue cheese and walnuts. These things were fantastic, I tell you. I ate three.

Pocahantas Girl made a big pitcher of Stoli and cranberry juice and her son put Louisiana hot sauce in it either as a joke or to get even for making him go over to dad's house. The hard cores drank it anyway.

PG's new boytoy is a a police officer. Nice guy but he kept ruining everyone's sobriety test stories by taking the law enforcement side. Even so, someone backed over the neighbor's mailbox when they left.

I had to escort SG across the street so she didn't get a WWI.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 5:19:35 PM

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or maybe use PP's and free a division from Hawaii.

If you need to spend PPs go ahead, I don't need any for the foreseeable future.

ETA: [edited to ameliorate persnicky editors] Don't you have alternative uses for your political points, my good sir? Aren't some of your Indian divisions ripe for 'buying out'?

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 5:26:11 PM

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Editor's Note: Readers are advised that anyone acting like a poopy-head is at risk of being sent to the cornfield.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 5:36:08 PM

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My white elephant gift from the party is a talking doll. You press her hand and she says things like..."I'm bored. Let's shave my *****"

I tried to get someone to take it from me but no takers. I am pretty sure it will escape its packaging one night and stab me in the heart....or worse. Creepy as Hell.

What a perfect gift! Considering the occasion, of course. Where does one even FIND such a talking doll.

Wait! On second thought, I'd rather not know...

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 5:37:35 PM

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So SG and I are out getting a Winter Holiday Tree yesterday. I insist on this 9 foot beast with a ten inch trunk. We're at Lowes so the customer service is crappy. We decide to load into onto the pick-up ourselves. I am carrying the heavy end with one hand so I can walk forward. We get to the truck and I perceive that there is no way I am am gong to get enough clearance over the truck bed with one hand to get the thing onto the bed. I am holding a branch on top of the trunk and it has to be probably 6 ft up so the bottom branches can clear. I pause for 3 ms to get ready to climb up on the bed......

SG: Up

Me: No ****?

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 7:12:19 PM

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Aren't some of your Indian divisions ripe for 'buying out'?

Troops at Calcutta prepping for Ramree Island:

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 7:34:39 PM

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Johny Jap, his big boats go glub glub

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 7:37:34 PM

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No image thingy there, IT guy.

ETA: There now. Much better.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 7:38:03 PM

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Arried reefs

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 7:40:51 PM

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Aren't some of your Indian divisions ripe for 'buying out'?

Troops at Calcutta prepping for Ramree Island:

Sentry at Ramree Isrand some time in future: Hory cap! Gurkhas! RUN!

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 7:41:47 PM

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1. When was the last time you guys saw Soryu or Kaga?

2. What's the status of JJ's CAs?

3. Have you seen Mushashi recently?

All in all, looks like you're well ahead in the exchanges, Allied dogs.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 7:46:36 PM

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2. What's the status of JJ's CAs?

Woof!

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 7:49:34 PM

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Kaga?

2 days ago.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 7:50:43 PM

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How many of these do you believe are FOW (sun damage

)?

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 8:01:41 PM

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Where's the rest of your US (Army) infantry? You should have ten divisions in theater by now.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 8:05:28 PM

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1. When was the last time you guys saw Soryu or Kaga?

2. What's the status of JJ's CAs?

3. Have you seen Mushashi recently?

All in all, looks like you're well ahead in the exchanges, Allied dogs.

An Arried sub jus took a shot at Kaga 2 days ago near Palau.

Soryu not show up for many moons.

Musashi took a 1000 lb hit from an SBD some time ago IIRC...but swam at away at full speed. We need to assume she will be ready to defend Luzon.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 8:19:08 PM

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Where's the rest of your US (Army) infantry? You should have ten divisions in theater by now.

10 divisions! Santa Maria! Somebody, she forget to tell el Senor Marshall!

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 8:45:27 PM

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Let's see..2 regiments at Anchorage. One regiment at Dutch Harbor. One regiment or maybe just a Ranger Bn at Adak, I think.

4 Regiments on Oahu.

3 Regiments marching on Manado (I think at least 2 are Army)

3 Regiments beseiging Sorong (at least 1 Army)

Regimental garrisons at Saumlaki, Boela, Namlea and Ternate

32nd ID at Port Hedrand (pretty well wrecked)

I think we lost a regiment in New Scotland..mayb the HQ got out?

Now, Fort Ord is just crawling wtih GI's but they are preventing a surprise landing at Psimo Beach.

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RE: Sun Damage - 12/10/2012 8:45:42 PM

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Where's the rest of your US (Army) infantry? You should have ten divisions in theater by now.

10 divisions! Santa Maria! Somebody, she forget to tell el Senor Marshall!

Can't vouch for the game OrBat right now, but historically the 7th, 24th, 25th, 27th, 32nd, 37th, 40th, 41st, 43rd, and Americal Divisions were all in theater by Feb '43. IIRC you need to pay PP's for a few of those.

Edit to add: and at least the Americal, 24th, and 25th start as independent regiments. I'm 90% sure you need to pay PP's for the 24th & 25th's round-out regiments from the West Coast and more to unrestrict the regiments that start in Hawaii.

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