Slitherine

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warspite1

You are right out of line there parusski. Leave Scottish rappers with silly pants out of this - there is nothing wrong with McHammer.

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NEIN! I SUPPORT ZE HAMMERS! HEIL HAMMERS!

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ORIGINAL: parusski
BAN everything with HAMMER in it.

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ORIGINAL: Mundy

Actually you can. Just pay the NFA tax stamp

RR

More hyperbole as usual. Apparently owning a RR is exactly the same as owning a rifle.

I get it, Gary. Personal liberties are simply a quaint anachronism to you.

There are groups who like shooting Civil War cannons. I'm sure you'd be first in line to put an end to that travesty.

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ORIGINAL: Qwixt

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ORIGINAL: chijohnaok

Gary,

How would you feel if a proposal was submitted to tweak the First Amendment.

It might say that freedom of speech should be restricted in circumstances where that speech was "hateful" or unpopular.

It might sound like a PC thing, I mean who is in favor of hateful speech?

But when you take a moment to look at that more closely, who is to be the arbiter of what hate speech is?
Would using the "n" word be considered hate speech? If you did that half of rap music would be deemed illegal.

Minimize one right of the people as stated in the Constitution and you open the door for it to happen to others as well.

You are just trying to obfuscate the issue with something not even closely related to the same thing, other than you think that not being able to own any weapon of your choosing violates the 2nd amendment.

Also, Gary is 100% correct in stating that it is a matter of degrees in regard to rocket launchers and an arsenal. The second amendment is about the right to keep and bear arms. Well, how about nuclear arms? It has arms right in the name. It's a weapon. If you don't think citizens should be able to get those, then you are simply drawing the line at a different location. Heck, we don't even want other countries to get certain types of weapons, and they are not even covered by the constitution.

Feel free to drop by and chat about whatever is on your mind.

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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warspite1

You are right out of line there parusski. Leave Scottish rappers with silly pants out of this - there is nothing wrong with McHammer.

I AM SCREAMING HERE. There are millions of Hammers out there, owned by law-abiding citizens. But if we can remove just ONE from the hands of a lunatic then the CHILDREN are safe. And I was not talking about the new McDonald's sandwich, the McHammer. But now, by GOD, it must be banned because, since it has the word hammer in it, some deviant might try to kill a CHILD with one. BAN everything with HAMMER in it.

Chickenhead sputtered

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NEIN! I SUPPORT ZE HAMMERS! HEIL HAMMERS!

DA, all HAMMERS banned. This is as sensible as banning any gun. Prove it is not.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: parusski

I am back to say I was wrong. Yep. After thinking things over we should just throw our hands up, surrender our rights and do what "feels good".

Headline from Texas:

Robber Beats Dallas Clerk With Several Hammers

There you go. Ban hammers. Right now. Ban hammers. Ban hammers. No one really needs one, do they?????

Hey, I'm just getting on the band wagon. I hope I get support from those who say we have no need of "assault" rifles.

BAN HAMMERS NOW. THE AVERAGE CITIZEN DOES NOT NEED ONE.

We can make some allowances by licensing 1 hammer(with rubber head) to home builders.

Finally, I want a total ban(no exceptions) on MC Hammers.

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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warspite1

You are right out of line there parusski. Leave Scottish rappers with silly pants out of this - there is nothing wrong with McHammer.

I AM SCREAMING HERE. There are millions of Hammers out there, owned by law-abiding citizens. But if we can remove just ONE from the hands of a lunatic then the CHILDREN are safe. And I was not talking about the new McDonald's sandwich, the McHammer. But now, by GOD, it must be banned because, since it has the word hammer in it, some deviant might try to kill a CHILD with one. BAN everything with HAMMER in it.

Chickenhead sputtered

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NEIN! I SUPPORT ZE HAMMERS! HEIL HAMMERS!

DA, all HAMMERS banned. This is as sensible as banning any gun. Prove it is not.

Feel free to drop by and chat about whatever is on your mind.

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: parusski
BAN everything with HAMMER in it.

So by this logic, when I went to McDonald's I would order a "burg" to leave out the offending letters?

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Oh Eye the Noo Ye Kan'e touch this hoots mon

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: parusski
BAN everything with HAMMER in it.

So by this logic, when I went to McDonald's I would order a "burg" to leave out the offending letters?

My Lord, I missed this. Due to the current climate-YES. You can only order a burg. That is the safe thing.

warpedspite.5 lamely wrote:

McHammer

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Oh Eye the Noo Ye Kan'e touch this hoots mon

There is no place for any logical arguments from anyone like you(we must be consistent with the gun control crowd logic), so if you continue making sensible arguments I will simply shout you down. And I will use ever increasingly lame positions, but I will mainly say--YOU DON'T NEED A HAMMER ANY MORE THAN YOU NEED A RIFLE THAT CAN FIRE MORE THAN 7, 9 OR 10 ROUNDS.

I don't care about logic, or the 1st or 2nd amendment. I only care about sounding good and protecting the chi'ren.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

I was sort of enjoying the discussion. But if you guys don't want to discuss things rationally I guess there's no point in continuing.

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ORIGINAL: parusski

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ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

I was sort of enjoying the discussion. But if you guys don't want to discuss things rationally I guess there's no point in continuing.

Really? Rationally? Like circumventing the Second Amendment?

I am making an absurd point. One as absurd as saying citizens have no need for an "assault" rifle. It is not the place of anyone, especially the government, to tell us what kind of gun we can own. I am talking guns sir, not grenade launchers, not tanks...so don't harp on that tired argument.

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ORIGINAL: Mundy

Pay your tax stamp and you can have one.

Q.E.D.

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ORIGINAL: warspite1
Oh Eye the Noo Ye Kan'e touch this hoots mon

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ORIGINAL: Mundy

I was saying that they are legal.

You were talking like they weren't.  I showed you your error.

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ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

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ORIGINAL: Mundy

I was saying that they are legal.

You were talking like they weren't.  I showed you your error.

Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression but I know of people who have full auto weapons under license. I used to go to a shooting range with my dad when I was a kid and witnessed a couple guys with full auto M-16s shooting up targets myself. Maybe I was under a misunderstanding thinking that such licenses aren't exactly handed out like theme park coupons? Don't you have to prove some sort of worthiness or something to own them? Or can I simply pick up a couple hundred bucks or whatever it costs and go buy a license any time I want for any reason?

Feel free to drop by and chat about whatever is on your mind.

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ORIGINAL: Gary Childress
Maybe I was under a misunderstanding thinking that such licenses aren't exactly handed out like theme park coupons? Don't you have to prove some sort of worthiness or something to own them? Or can I simply pick up a couple hundred bucks or whatever it costs and go buy a license any time I want for any reason?

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ORIGINAL: Aurelian

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ORIGINAL: Titanwarrior89

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ORIGINAL: barkorn45

what i find interesting is that our president is so pro-life when it comes to firearms regulation and talks about "if it saves one life"
what about the 50,000,000 children who've been aborted since roe v wade?
they won't see a birthday or their graduation day as he said in his speech surrounded by children.
the ultimate hypocrite!

So we do want to go down this road....OK.

Ummm, abortion is legal. And why would the President, any President, be a hypocrite? Last I looked, SCOTUS decided Roe.

You know what a real hypocrite is in this matter? Those who cry about welfare mothers, abortion, etc, but fail to step up and station themselves at abortion clinics and not only pay for all the care til birth, but support said child till they reach majority.

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ORIGINAL: chijohnaok

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ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

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ORIGINAL: Mundy

I was saying that they are legal.

You were talking like they weren't.  I showed you your error.

Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression but I know of people who have full auto weapons under license. I used to go to a shooting range with my dad when I was a kid and witnessed a couple guys with full auto M-16s shooting up targets myself. Maybe I was under a misunderstanding thinking that such licenses aren't exactly handed out like theme park coupons? Don't you have to prove some sort of worthiness or something to own them? Or can I simply pick up a couple hundred bucks or whatever it costs and go buy a license any time I want for any reason?

I don't think it's as simple as havin a couple hundred dollars and going to do it over the weekend.

Here is a set where the question was brought up and answered:
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332506

Looks like at best it will take 90 days or more, set you back several hundred dollars for the stamp, and actually purchasing a weapon could set you back thousands of dollars.

Seems like beyond the means of many people.
Certainly not practical for someone who is intent on going out spur of the moment to shoot commit a violent criminal act.
And someone who is mentally unstable would likely not pass the BATF required background check or the approval of the local county sheriff.

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ORIGINAL: barkorn45

the "born alive infant protection act"which he voted against twice while senator.he is the most pro abortion pres.we've ever had "I don't want her punished with a baby"remember that line?
one suggestion to welfare moms and those who can't afford to raise a child while on welfare,food stamps,housing subsidies,free cell phones,ebt,KEEP YOUR LEGS TOGETHER!!!!don't have unprotected sex,oh i forgot i'm supposed to pay for their contraceptives also.

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ORIGINAL: BASB
So in the US government changes the constitution not the people, here in OZ the government proposes a change and the people get to vote on the change. A majority of the states must agree and I think, but I maybe wrong on this, I think 75% of voters must vote yes to the amendment.

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ORIGINAL: barkorn45

the "born alive infant protection act"which he voted against twice while senator.he is the most pro abortion pres.we've ever had "I don't want her punished with a baby"remember that line?
one suggestion to welfare moms and those who can't afford to raise a child while on welfare,food stamps,housing subsidies,free cell phones,ebt,KEEP YOUR LEGS TOGETHER!!!!don't have unprotected sex,oh i forgot i'm supposed to pay for their contraceptives also.

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ORIGINAL: Aurelian

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ORIGINAL: Titanwarrior89

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ORIGINAL: barkorn45

what i find interesting is that our president is so pro-life when it comes to firearms regulation and talks about "if it saves one life"
what about the 50,000,000 children who've been aborted since roe v wade?
they won't see a birthday or their graduation day as he said in his speech surrounded by children.
the ultimate hypocrite!

So we do want to go down this road....OK.

Ummm, abortion is legal. And why would the President, any President, be a hypocrite? Last I looked, SCOTUS decided Roe.

You know what a real hypocrite is in this matter? Those who cry about welfare mothers, abortion, etc, but fail to step up and station themselves at abortion clinics and not only pay for all the care til birth, but support said child till they reach majority.

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ORIGINAL: Gary Childress
Are we really that insecure in our modern civilization that a person needs to bar the doors and windows and prepare every day for a shootout at the OK corral? I suppose in the end people will find a way to get what they want. It's a little scarry but I guess there's not much to be done about it.