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ORIGINAL: Terminus

I'd personally like to see him taken alive. Just to find out what the hell the point was.

That's irrelevant. I couldn't care less what pseudodrationalization he had for his actions. Chechen filth should be fed to the hogs. Alive.

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Schanilec

Police are closing in. Suspect number two seems to be close to assuming room temperature.

Let's hoping he takes himself out before hurting any more bystanders / police.

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Sean Collier was the MIT police officer killed by these two. Thoughts and prayers to his friends and family.

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ORIGINAL: USS America

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Schanilec

Police are closing in. Suspect number two seems to be close to assuming room temperature.

Let's hoping he takes himself out before hurting any more bystanders / police.

I suspect he will use his last bullet on himself once he figures he can do no more damage. I'm with CB in that I don't care what his irrational "motive" was. It will make you insane when rational people try to understand irrational people.

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

I'd personally like to see him taken alive. Just to find out what the hell the point was.

That's irrelevant. I couldn't care less what pseudodrationalization he had for his actions. Chechen filth should be fed to the hogs. Alive.

And there we are... *slow sarcastic clap*

I'd rather that then the dog and pony show trotted out for that Norwegian psychopath of a couple years ago. You think THAT was a good show of the 'European justice model'? Ultimate *slow clap* on that one, mate.

Because having that lunatic spouting his poison into the popular press will really facilitate closure for the victims' families. Not. Just like this guy. No pictures for them. No remembrances. Let them and their terroristic ideology be constrained to the dustbin of history. I don't need to see him in court.

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ORIGINAL: sprior

I can't be a hypocrite on this one; I was glad when the SAS took down the Irish bombers in Gib before they attacked and I won't lose sleep over another dead bomber.

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

I'd personally like to see him taken alive. Just to find out what the hell the point was.

That's irrelevant. I couldn't care less what pseudodrationalization he had for his actions. Chechen filth should be fed to the hogs. Alive.

Makes me wonder where that laudable sentiment was a decade ago during the "Chechens are fighting for their freedom from the Russian oppressors" circle jerk.

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo
I disagree. I think they were both too young to have come up with this sort of indoctrinated idiocy by themselves. I'd like to see this tracked back to the source.

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo
Although I agree with you on this rare occasion, I think its already too late. Their pictures have already been plastered all over the place by the media (which I think is creaming their shorts right now) and theyve already trotted out every living relative down to some third-cousins-uncles-ex-brother-in-laws pet hamster. Even got the father in Russia on the horn from what I heard.

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo
I disagree. I think they were both too young to have come up with this sort of indoctrinated idiocy by themselves. I'd like to see this tracked back to the source.

Yes. Me too. There's nothing saying that it couldn't be some sort of BS 'hybrid' philosophy too. Chechen freedom fighter wannabe meets nascent islamist meets disaffected teenager meets nihlist / anarchist meets anti-government conspiracy kook.

Hey, Timothy McVey was 27 when he carried out the Oklahoma City bombing. The young brother may have gotten swept up in his brother's hatred and gone along out of a sense of belonging or need.

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

I'd personally like to see him taken alive. Just to find out what the hell the point was.

That's irrelevant. I couldn't care less what pseudodrationalization he had for his actions. Chechen filth should be fed to the hogs. Alive.

Makes me wonder where that laudable sentiment was a decade ago during the "Chechens are fighting for their freedom from the Russian oppressors" circle jerk.

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In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?"

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?"

No Steve, it's just a whacko. When I was going to MIT, I often went for a pint at the Plough and Stars at the corner of Mass Ave and Hancock. And yeah, I knew where some of my pennys were going, but I'm Irish, after all, so ... The Nation of Ireland has been attempting to unify for decades. The time of the gun is over, the time of incorporation is upon us. With all due respect to my friends in the UK, Ireland will be Ireland; North, South, whatever: Ireland.

Your suggestion the the Boston bombings had some sort of genesis in the Irish conflict is so bizarre as to defy logic. I ain't some IRA puke, and I ain't some RPP puke either. But you have your head up where the sun don't shine.

JWE

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ORIGINAL: Symon

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?"

No Steve, it's just a whacko. When I was going to MIT, I often went for a pint at the Plough and Stars at the corner of Mass Ave and Hancock. And yeah, I knew where some of my pennys were going, but I'm Irish, after all, so ... The Nation of Ireland has been attempting to unify for decades. The time of the gun is over, the time of incorporation is upon us. With all due respect to my friends in the UK, Ireland will be Ireland; North, South, whatever: Ireland.

Your suggestion the the Boston bombings had some sort of genesis in the Irish conflict is so bizarre as to defy logic. I ain't some IRA puke, and I ain't some RPP puke either. But you have your head up where the sun don't shine.

JWE

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

I'd personally like to see him taken alive. Just to find out what the hell the point was.

That's irrelevant. I couldn't care less what pseudodrationalization he had for his actions. Chechen filth should be fed to the hogs. Alive.

Makes me wonder where that laudable sentiment was a decade ago during the "Chechens are fighting for their freedom from the Russian oppressors" circle jerk.

It is my understanding/indocternation This all really starts to come to an International head when the "Islamic Spring" i.e. Iranian Revolution threatens the area. It is my understanding of the Soviet Docterine that the contagion would be held at the Afgan border rather than continuing the threaten the heart of Soviet oil and cotton resources. We [The US] on the other hand in a strange set of circumstances in 1980 with the Soviet Union seen as the evil empire .. thought that aligning ourselves with the enemy of my enemy would somehow endear ourselves to this radical scurge. Well after they were through with the Soviets and continuing to terrorize Chechnya .. and the Soviet Union falls ... "Zionism" became the target and Jewish Uzbek's made it to our shores escaping the "Religion of Peace". Soon thereafter ... 3 decades later find outselves dealing with the consequinces ..

My own viewpoint .. what might seem quite ignorant and harsh .. but I think the Soviets had it right ..It is unfortunate that whole groups of people with religious fevor threatens us but letting the war come to our shores only means tolerating more bombings and terror .. of course we lack political will to settle this question .. so we shall continue to find an answer ... Maybe the balance between cilvilization and religious fevor played out as terrorism is accepting evil in the world and simply reacting with measured force afterwards. ... the alternative is premptively killing them all ....

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?"

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?"

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

I'd personally like to see him taken alive. Just to find out what the hell the point was.

That's irrelevant. I couldn't care less what pseudodrationalization he had for his actions. Chechen filth should be fed to the hogs. Alive.

Makes me wonder where that laudable sentiment was a decade ago during the "Chechens are fighting for their freedom from the Russian oppressors" circle jerk.

It is my understanding/indocternation This all really starts to come to an International head when the "Islamic Spring" i.e. Iranian Revolution threatens the area. It is my understanding of the Soviet Docterine that the contagion would be held at the Afgan border rather than continuing the threaten the heart of Soviet oil and cotton resources. We [The US] on the other hand in a strange set of circumstances in 1980 with the Soviet Union seen as the evil empire .. thought that aligning ourselves with the enemy of my enemy would somehow endear ourselves to this radical scurge. Well after they were through with the Soviets and continuing to terrorize Chechnya .. and the Soviet Union falls ... "Zionism" became the target and Jewish Uzbek's made it to our shores escaping the "Religion of Peace". Soon thereafter ... 3 decades later find outselves dealing with the consequinces ..

My own viewpoint .. what might seem quite ignorant and harsh .. but I think the Soviets had it right ..It is unfortunate that whole groups of people with religious fevor threatens us but letting the war come to our shores only means tolerating more bombings and terror .. of course we lack political will to settle this question .. so we shall continue to find an answer ... Maybe the balance between cilvilization and religious fevor played out as terrorism is accepting evil in the world and simply reacting with measured force afterwards. ... the alternative is premptively killing them all ....

I was referring to Beslan, NordOst and a dozen other incidents which were every bit as horrific, soulless and unforgivable, which happened in Moscow and other parts of Russia that are every bit as urban and civilized as Boston and NY (which is to say that it was by no stretch of the imagination some spat in a village with fuzzy-wuzzies fighting amongst themselves). As I recall, the general western reaction to those events was something along the lines of "the f*****g Russkie commies had it coming for oppressing the poor Chechens". Maybe now the western public will begin to understand what we're dealing with here.

As for the other stuff, you are absolutely correct. What's more, the Russians have hundreds of years more experience with "warriors of Islam" then we do. They had successfully put down extreme islamist movements in the past. I'll let you guess how.

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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

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In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?"

I'm sure theres a very fine line between Irish and Fuzzie-wuzzie terrorists. I'm not sure what it is myself, but I bet there are people who can explain it.

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Were there Cossacks? lot's of big, ugly cossacks?