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- 12/15/2002 2:01:14 AM   
Les_the_Sarge_9_1

 

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Status: offline 		I have a friend that uses a Mac, he says a Mac can't walk and chew bubblegum.

Open a program , and it goes to desktop, open another and it too goes to desktop.

I don't know anything about Macs, but the way he described it, it made it seem clear, Macs are not all that perfect.

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- 12/15/2002 2:58:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		YOUR SPEAKING AFTER THE FACT. MACS ARE LONG GONE ITS TRUE. BUT IF APPLE WOULDVE HAD THE FORESIGHT OF IBM IN 1979, THEY WOULDVE TAKEN OVER PERMANENTLY. ALL THOSE OLD BUGS WOULDVE BEEN FIXED AND SINCE THE MOTOROLA CPU'S WERE GENERALLY SUPERIOR, THEY WOULDVE CAPTURED IT ALL. BUT ALAS, THATS ANOTHER STORY. AH THE GOOD OL DAYS OF MY APLLE IIe AND AMIGA 500. "SIGH"

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- 12/15/2002 3:06:06 AM   
Les_the_Sarge_9_1

 

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Status: offline 		My OS blues might be moot today. I have found I can get Operational Art of War via Century of Warfare to run on XP.

See this 98, you can sit on it and rotate hehe.

When I get the chance I am re installing XP and there will be NO sign of 98 on it. Secondary or otherwise.

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- 12/21/2002 3:58:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		THAT MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD IDEA TO REFORMAT THAT DRIVE SARGE. RECOMMEND; BUY A NEW DRIVE TO PUT XP ONTO. IVE HEARD THAT XP DOESNT RUN MOST GAMES WELL AT ALL AND SOME NOT AT ALL. 98 IS STILL THE MOST STABLE SO FAR FOR GAMING AND WE ALL KNOW HOW CRITICAL THAT IS!

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- 12/21/2002 4:11:49 AM   
Les_the_Sarge_9_1

 

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Status: offline 		[SIZE=4]98 sucks[/SIZE]

True XP won't run every game in creation.
True XP won't make me dinner either.

But XP runs without fail regardless of how little I know about computers.

98 on the other hand still uses the blue screen of death. Not to mention it won't help me set up squat. XP is sufficiently helpful that I no longer have to fret over installing hardware or processing details like interent connections.

Computers are supposed to make life easier, XP accomplishes this. 98 on the other hand constantly irritates me and makes me go crying for tech help from my friends.

Stable, nope I don't believe that for a micro second.

When I heard that Century of Warfare will run on XP (thus ending my lamentations I could not play Operational Art of War Elite edition Volume 1, without resoorting to lame 98), 98 was doomed.

It is gone, and it ain't wasting good computer resources any further.

And I must say, formating with an XP OS disk is fairly easy eh. Something I would never say about 98.

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- 12/21/2002 5:22:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Les the Sarge 9-1
[B][SIZE=4]98 sucks[/SIZE]
When I heard that Century of Warfare will run on XP (thus ending my lamentations I could not play Operational Art of War Elite edition Volume 1, without resoorting to lame 98), 98 was doomed.

It is gone, and it ain't wasting good computer resources any further.

And I must say, formating with an XP OS disk is fairly easy eh. Something I would never say about 98. [/B][/QUOTE]

Never say never, Les. Better hang on to that 98 CD. You never know with computers what lies down the road. I wouldn't put all my eggs in one XP basket. ;)

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- 12/21/2002 9:37:20 AM   
Les_the_Sarge_9_1

 

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Status: offline 		Don't worry Dave, I'm a Scot after I am a Canadian hehe, I never throw out anything I spent good money on heheh.

I have stuff around the house I KNOW I am never going to use again, but I keep it because I spent good money on it hehe.

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- 12/21/2002 10:29:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		You have made me think about trying to install Harpoon onto my XP machine and seeing if it works... I have an older computer with Win95 on it still - basically because of it, besides it gives the little one a keyboard to hammer on without getting into any of my work on the other machines.

If I could get Harpoon working on it...I could dump one old machine...hmmm

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- 12/21/2002 10:42:22 AM   
brent_2

 

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Status: offline 		D@mn, drat, double-d@mn

It flashes up a black screen and then returns me to the desktop

Gaaah

alot more than what I got on the Win2k machine though...

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- 12/21/2002 11:12:29 AM   
Les_the_Sarge_9_1

 

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Status: offline 		XP isn't a miracle worker, but sometimes you have to play with a program.

Sometimes you have to use compatibility feature on the install, and sometimes just to run the installed exe file.

Sometimes you have to adjust colour setting such as 256 mode.

And sometimes a mix of all three.

Sometimes you have to dig deep.

Never hesitate to just post a question about a game and an OS and ask for input.

I have Harpoon II Admirals edition. I will see if I can install that just for the heck of it and get back to you on my results. (I got it in a game pakage).

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- 12/21/2002 11:43:41 AM   
Les_the_Sarge_9_1

 

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Status: offline 		Well sadly I have to report, Harpoon II Admirals edition will not play nice with XP. They don't wish to be friends.

I tried all the tricks I know a least.

Cd would not auto run, minor hassle normally.
Compatibility feature meant doowah on auto run.
As well, it failed on every install permutation tried. Or rather the game seems to install, but refuses to run after it installs.
It does not generate any "presence" on install though ie you have to just delete the folder.

I would have to say, Harpoon does not appear to have a future with an XP user.

I have never actually played the game though. I only have it by virtue of it being a companion game in a package for another wargame (I don't think it runs either on XP).
It was one of those damned near free bargain bin purchases though. I am not suffering a great loss here in my opinion.

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- 12/21/2002 11:58:17 AM   
brent_2

 

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Status: offline 		no luck here either...tried each different combination I think.

screen flashes black for a second and then back to the desktop.

CD huh?, mine's on 3-1/4" floppies.

Oh well, still have that 95 machine, it isn't going anywhere.

On a $ per hour scale I have got more than my moneys worth out of Harpoon2, heh copyright on the disk says 1994, wow, eight, nearly nine years, I have westpac, the big juicy manual and strategy guide all in the original box.

probably end up on e-bay someday I guess. (not yet though)

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- 12/22/2002 4:33:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by troopie
[B]I I doubt Open Source software will be prohibited. Even Microsquish isn't that powerful.

troopie [/B][/QUOTE]

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- 12/22/2002 4:42:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by SLAAKMAN
[B]YOUR SPEAKING AFTER THE FACT. MACS ARE LONG GONE ITS TRUE. BUT IF APPLE WOULDVE HAD THE FORESIGHT OF IBM IN 1979, THEY WOULDVE TAKEN OVER PERMANENTLY. ALL THOSE OLD BUGS WOULDVE BEEN FIXED AND SINCE THE MOTOROLA CPU'S WERE GENERALLY SUPERIOR, THEY WOULDVE CAPTURED IT ALL. BUT ALAS, THATS ANOTHER STORY. AH THE GOOD OL DAYS OF MY APLLE IIe AND AMIGA 500. "SIGH" [/B][/QUOTE]

Oh the humanity, THE HUMANITY!!!

pL34s3 dR0p 7h3 c4p5...

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- 1/2/2003 5:40:34 AM   
SLAAKMAN


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Status: offline 		O THE HUMANITY WITHOUT SLAAKERY TO COMFORT US! IM BUYING NEW ATHLON/ASUS MACHINE AND 98SE WILL BE THE OPERATING SYSTEM. XP, ME, 2000 AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANAL RETENTIVE MICROSCAM THINKS THEY CAN "IMPROVE" CAN BE SENT BACK TO THE FACTORY AND SHOVED UP THEIR ASSES!!
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- 1/2/2003 11:01:07 AM   
brent_2

 

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Status: offline 		THEY INVENTED LOWERCASE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE COMMODORE AND AMIGA I THINK ;) your new 'puter ought to be so equipped.

you can always tell some peoples posts without looking :D

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- 1/2/2003 7:37:11 PM   
Les_the_Sarge_9_1

 

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Status: offline 		Recently they invented XP as well heheh.

Oh it might not be the most brilliant thing Big Bill has made, but at least he finally made it so Windows didn't dump all your efforts in the trash with a blue screeno death at random.

Now XP won't run each and every archaic game out there (wargames included). But at least it will run itself constantly and reliably.

Now considering that my life doesn't revolve around playing a specific wargame, but it sure is dependent on my computer fnctioning constantly and reliably, I will pick an OS I can rely on, over a lame useless one that might still play a few specific wargames.

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- 1/2/2003 9:50:19 PM   
Frank W.

 

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Status: offline 		i´m with 98. why buying XP or any other M$ stuff, if all things i need function with 98 ??

if you want M$ or bill gates to get even more money and power: go ahead buy all their new stuff.

as long as all progs i need run on 98 i keep it. very simple.

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- 1/2/2003 11:08:49 PM   
Maliki


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Status: offline 		I just went from 95 to XP,talk about a leap.It has its good points and bad points,though i do like the fact that certain functions you can run in classic mode which makes the transition a little bit easier.So far i'm only having problems with one game.

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- 1/3/2003 1:05:25 AM   
Les_the_Sarge_9_1

 

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Status: offline 		Frank to give it a suitable analogy.

Win 98 is a hovel, and it matters not if some dingy furniture feels comfortable in that hovel.

XP might not a palace, but it sure is a nice home. And if some of my dingy furniture won't fit in it, then its time to seek out new furniture that does.

I recently had one beloved piece of furniture refinished eh.
Might have had to pay a few bucks to get Operational Art of War Volume 1 refinished by purchasing Century of Warfare, but it was a good idea. And hey, the game looks nicer anyway.

But saying 98 isn't a hovel, just because the furniture fits in it, is a pointless defense of a hovel.

And 98 is a hovel. I know, because I have lived in that hovel.
The roof leaks, the wiring is bad, the foundation is cracked, I can go on.

Sure XP has some problems in interior design, but at least the roof doesn't leak and the wiring is good and the foundation is secure.

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- 1/3/2003 1:59:23 AM   
brent_2

 

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Status: offline 		the only game I have been unable to get working on either win2k or XP (that I would actually miss) has been harpoon2. everything else I have either found a patch for, or just dumped for lack of interest in the effort required.

I have very few problems with either one crashing. Explorer gets iffy after a week or two on win2k I think, I start to get shut downs. But that may be me installing and uninstalling demos and stuff too... who knows. It hasn't happenned often enough for me to worrry about

I couldn't say that about 3.1-95-98

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- 1/3/2003 8:47:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Les the Sarge 9-1
[B]And 98 is a hovel. I know, because I have lived in that hovel.
The roof leaks, the wiring is bad, the foundation is cracked, I can go on.[/B][/QUOTE] One man's hovel is another man's mansion. ;)

Les, you're beating this dead horse to a pulp. Based on your analogy, I guess it just depends on how good a home improvement contractor you are. No leaks, no bad wiring and a solid foundation with my win98se. Name one game that you can run on XP that I can't on win98se.

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- 1/3/2003 8:54:41 AM   
Les_the_Sarge_9_1

 

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Status: offline 		98 Heretic get himmm!!!!!

Burn in hell 98 scum!!!:D

Hey had to turn on you eh, the horse is plenty dead looking as you said.

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- 1/3/2003 9:03:23 AM   
Brigz


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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Les the Sarge 9-1
[B]98 Heretic get himmm!!!!!

Burn in hell 98 scum!!!:D

Hey had to turn on you eh, the horse is plenty dead looking as you said. [/B][/QUOTE] Nawh! I'm just another Luddite. ;)

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- 1/3/2003 11:31:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		wow interesting topic...there is a program called vmware at [url]www.vmware.com[/url] takes a little bit of a stout computer but its a pc emulator...can run multiple OS's at the same time... at work I use it to answer questions about everything from DOS to win3.1,9x,2000,xp...you name it... saves on hardware costs..
at home I use it to play games in win98 running inside my nice stable Linux box.... doesn't that sound like heracy... running windows inside linux.... It has a nice suspend feature that is convienient if I need a break in the middle of a game.

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FELLOW SLAAKNARCHISTS RESIST XP! - 1/4/2003 3:57:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		SKRY AND DAVE RECEIVE THIS MONTHS "SLAAK ACHIEVEMENT AWARD" FOR RESISTING THE WICKED CONSUMER TREND KNOWN AS "XP". I BOW TO SKRYS' DYNAMIC LINUX/98SE COMBO SYSTEM AND WILL PERSONALLY STRIVE TO EMULATE THAT SYSTEM! ONCE AGAIN GOOD JOB GUYS!
SLAAKATTAK

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- 1/4/2003 4:25:06 PM   
abradley

 

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Status: offline 		If your interested in messing with another OS, but don't want to spring for a new system.

http://www.vipower.com/

Compatible with all kinds of tower cases, desktop PCs,external chassis, & RAID subsystems.
Supports most 3.5" IDE devices (HDD/ZIP/MO/LS120).
Easy installation and backup for data security.
Convenient data administration & sharing.
Ergonomic auto-eject handle.
LED indicators for Power & HDD Access.
Internal cooling fan.
Dimensions: 8.4"(D) x 5.8"(W) x 1.6"(H). Weight: 1.2LB.

New Features:
Patented integrated USB 2.0/1.1 solution
Plug & Play USB solution with Hot-swap power control
Independent power for USB devices
Interchangeable USB modules

I am using 3 of an older set UDMA 66/100 which cost me 380 Baht (40 B to the US dollar) to mess around with.

Buy a hard disk, install the OS you want and test it with various programs/games.

This is only one of many manufacturers.

Best

Andy

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Microsoft; The Last Straw!!! - 1/12/2003 12:36:13 PM   
SLAAKATTAK

 

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Status: offline 		I'VE JUST HEARD IT AGAIN. MICRCOSCAM'S PURPOSE FOR CREATING XP IS TO USE IT AS SPYWARE TO SNIFF OUT UNCOPYWRITED OR "ILLEGAL" PROGRAMS, AS A BOT TO ALTER REGISTRY FILES THAT ARE CONFIGURED BY HACKS AND MOST DIABOLICAL OF ALL, TO ACQUIRE COPYWRITE OVER TCPIP AND CONVERT IT TO MS-PIP AND SUBSEQUENTLY CHARGE EVERYONE ON THE PLANET TO ACCESS THE INTERNET WHEN USING PROGRAMS THAT REQUIRE TCPIP!!!! THIS CASE TO ACQUIRE THE COPYWRITE IS BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT RIGHT NOW. THIS MONOPOLISTIC STRATEGY I FEAR IS INHERENT TO MICROSOFTS PHILOSOPHY OF BUSINESS AND AS A CHRISTIAN SLAAKNARCHIST I HEARBY OFFICIALLY CONDEMN THIS "WAR-CRIMINAL" AS A PAWN OF THE DEVIL, ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER PARASITICAL INSTITUIONS IN THE WORLD SUCH AS INSURANCE COMPANIES, OPEC, PROPERTY AND INCOME TAX, PATENT LAW, COMMUNISM, FASCISM, COCAINE AND HEROIN CARTELS, FEMINISTS, DEIISM, CALIFORNIA FAMILY COURTS, MY EX-WIFE AND ALL THE OTHER MINIONS OF ANTI-SLAAK DEMONS RUNNING AMOK THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE!!!! THIS MEANS WAR!!!!
SLAAKATTAK


LONG LIVE LINUX!! DEATH TO COPYWRITE AND PATENT LAW!!! CONVERT TO SLAAKNARCHISM!!!


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- 1/12/2003 1:38:00 PM   
Tim McBride

 

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Status: offline 		I'm posting this from the perspective of a person who plays wargames and happens to work in the computer world

XP and Win2k are actually at the same level

XP is being marketed for home users and small business networks.

Win2k is designed with the power user and larger networks in mind (If you are going to get 2k get the proffesional edition)

Linux will never be user friendly for games, it is too popular for running servers

Win98se blows compared to Win2k or XP, both XP and Win2K are more stable and easier to work on, Only draw back is some games will not work. Oh well.

BTW, TOAW:ACOW will run on Win2k and XP, you need to download a pair of the hacked exe's that have the safedisc copyprotection stripped off. ([url]www.tdg.nu[/url] has them)


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- 1/12/2003 2:09:06 PM   
Les_the_Sarge_9_1

 

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Status: offline 		I must protest.

Now Satan has done some very bad things over the centuries, but to imply he has anything to do with the nasty Bill Gates is just plain mean.

People should stop accusing Satan of hanging out with Bill, it really isn't the sort of thing your mother would ever approve of either.

If you can't say anything nice about someone don't say anything at all so I am told.

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