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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/30/2013 3:47:58 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/30/2013 4:27:19 PM   
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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/30/2013 8:14:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

No. It would say "Horrywood" on the hills were it staged.


Not if Warner Brothers Studios did the whole thing.

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/30/2013 8:17:53 PM   
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SANTA MARIA! Nothing terrible happened.

PI: I think this was the Kirishima group inbound. I wonder if this torpedo attack lowed them down? It certainly dented Fubuki.

Sub attack near Laoag at 81,71

Japanese Ships
DD Fubuki, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Suzukaze

Allied Ships
SS Pike, hits 1

Quite a few ASW attacks..then Wichita bombards Manira. This is REALLY lame. Somebody needs to check Wichita's database.

Night Naval bombardment of Manila at 79,77

Allied Ships
CA Wichita

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Wichita
CA Wichita firing at 19th Division

Turns out Kirishima is lolling about off Laoag. This can NOT have been the intention of Imperial Japanese Naval HQ. SBD's from Iba attack but the 1000 Lbrs. bounce off the force shield.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 80,71

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 52 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 4
SBD-3 Dauntless x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima, Bomb hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

SBD's from one of the CVE's attack. Wasp only has 9 TBF's.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 80,71

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 21
F6F-3 Hellcat x 6
SBD-3 Dauntless x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima

San Diego get torpedoed while on escort duty.

Sub attack near Busuanga at 76,81

Japanese Ships
SS I-174, hits 1

Allied Ships
CLAA San Diego, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD McCalla

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/30/2013 8:33:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		All the air to ground attacks in the PI are grounded.

There is NO IJA ground attack at Iba. There IS a ground attack at Manira...they were clsoe to a 2:1, but we hold.

Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 29230 troops, 275 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 1026

Defending force 6704 troops, 121 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 387

Japanese adjusted assault: 666

Allied adjusted defense: 367

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1591 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 142 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
653 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 100 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
52nd Division
19th Division
5th Makapili Regiment
28th JAAF AF Bn
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
14th Army
7th Shipping Engineer Regiment
4th JAAF AF Bn
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
11th Garrison Unit /1

Defending units:
8th Marine Regiment
1st USMC Corps Tank Battalion
182nd Infantry Regiment
5th Marine Regiment
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
98th FA Bn /1

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/30/2013 9:20:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Altimonan: JJ had/has lots of forts. probably can attack again tomorrow.

Ground combat at Atimonan (80,79)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2677 troops, 51 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 124

Defending force 2818 troops, 22 guns, 49 vehicles, Assault Value = 20

Allied adjusted assault: 52

Japanese adjusted defense: 32

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
34th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
20th JAAF Base Force
3rd Naval Construction Battalion
30th JNAF AF Unit

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/30/2013 9:23:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		In retrospect, we perhaps did not need to start landing Aus 7th Div at Iba, saving her isntead for Laoag, but at least JJ have divided their forces further, possibly allowing for a defeat in detail. I wont be surprised to see enemy troops at Lingayen either.

The small airborne group at Cabantuan was wiped out by 90 tankettes. This again opens East-West communication with Clark and Manira.

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/30/2013 9:26:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		With all due respect to Fabertong and Lord Admiral Nelson and their reputations, it is my opinion that their hearts (and minds) might not be in this game at this time.

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 2:48:37 PM   
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i just want to say that this is a great aar.

i have been following it for some time now.

I doff my hat to you people.





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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 3:26:56 PM   
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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 3:32:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sprior

Welcome to the madness. If you've read this entire thing may I suggest you consult a local mental health professional?


Aye. What would that say about those that wrote this thing then?

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 5:47:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you Ironcald.

Important safety tip, however.


Among the Fore people of Papua New Guine never EVER doff your hat. It is likely to be interpreted as "Your sister smells of howler monkey droppings and I dare you to take a taste of this{your head}!"

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 5:51:32 PM   
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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 5:52:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		In context it can also mean "Your sister smells of howler monkey droppings and I want to eat her brains out".

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 5:53:03 PM   
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Hey Walloc;

When do you use a two tight end offense?

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 5:58:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sprior

In context it can also mean "Your sister smells of howler monkey droppings and I want to eat her brains out".


You are going to get me cut off by the IT guys again!

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 6:01:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK, I admit it - I'm another of the silent majority/minority?? Ala Ironclad, et. al.
Been following the campaign since the very beginning - always wildly entertaining - occasionally even informative.

Keep up the great work! Just how many of us are out there?

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 6:15:35 PM   
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Iba: Iba is still beseigned by two wee Jap dobber units, details unkown. 90% of 21st Marine is ashore with Col Pepper in charge. This plus 400 men of 503rd PIR, some arty and some support units can likely hold in a jungle rough hex. Off shore is a 2 BB, 6 DD SCTF with "Ching" Lee in charge, plus some PT boats. If Kirishima plows on toward Iba we will have a 2 v 1 BB night fight and we have radar.

JJ might try it because there are at least 20 juicy transports there now. They may not know we have 2 BB's. 7th Aus did NOT disembark yet. There are 4 AP/AK's with some of the heavy equipment of 21st Marine. These will dock. The remainder (including the 7th Aus Div) of the transports will move west 100 miles to rendezvous with the carriers. We don't want Kirishima finding the carriers at night. No point in trying to land at Laoag until the BB's are freed up from their current duty.

Lingayen: Just some aviation support, a coy of paras and some Marines flown up from Central Luzon. We need to get soem help in there before the wee Jap dobbers from San Fernando arrive.

Manira: Will try air to ground attacks if the weather is good to weaken the two WJD divisions. Some of the heavy equipment from the regiments there is moving up from Lucena.

Altimonan: 34th IR attacks again today.

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 6:16:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wargamed

OK, I admit it - I'm another of the silent majority/minority?? Ala Ironclad, et. al.
Been following the campaign since the very beginning - always wildly entertaining - occasionally even informative.

Keep up the great work! Just how many of us are out there?


Mom? Is that you?

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 5/31/2013 6:31:25 PM   
wargamed


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Status: offline 		Not that I know of. There were those 18 months on Okinawa in the mid-70's though.

Son?


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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 6/1/2013 2:37:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wargamed

Not that I know of. There were those 18 months on Okinawa in the mid-70's though.

Son?





Please tell me it does not involve a wee Jap dobber?

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 6/1/2013 3:03:00 PM   
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PI: Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh! <light goes on> JJ has deduced that Loaog is our landing spot and they wre waiting for us. Looks like perhaps two SCTF there. No night battle at Iba.


Morning Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 81,69

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 12

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Suzukaze
DD Hayashio, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Ushio

I guess some staff hack left some of the SBD's on ground attack. Idiots. Some of the defending Zeroes are from a Kaga air group, the others from Soryu. This is why you don't use SBD's on ground attack at dive bombing altitudes unless the defender is in bad shape. The SBD's are prone to ground fire. We discover a regiment of 54th Div at Iba.

Morning Air attack on 54th/A Division, at 78,75 (Iba)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
A6M3a Zero x 6
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 6
P-40B Warhawk x 1
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
SBD-3 Dauntless x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 6/1/2013 3:04:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Reasonably sure I didn't leave anything/anybody behind. At least when I was sober. Whoops, that doesn't account for large chunks of the tour then.


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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 6/1/2013 3:08:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Attack on ground troops at Manira. In the end, there is no LYB attack at Manira today. The B-24's are 8x as effective as Wichita.

Morning Air attack on 19th Division, at 79,77 (Manila)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 20
B-24D1 Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Afternoon attack near Laoag. Is Kirishima detached? I seriously doubt it.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 79,70

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 50 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 9
SBD-3 Dauntless x 11

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 10 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
10 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Troopships or a suppry convoy at Aparri. The have a good CAP. We have Hellcats. We win. Note these boys flew right over Kirishima. Must be croudy.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Aparri at 82,73

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 3
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 20
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 5

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 12
SBD-3 Dauntless x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ia Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAP Kashima Maru
xAP Ussuri Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Utide Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Syunko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

It does appear Ushio is damaged badly enough to be detached. The Oceanic White Tips close in. A staff hack remembered to change the TBF's to bomb load-outs (no torps at Iba) but forgot to cahnge attack altitude....so they glide bomb at 5000 ft. Fortuantely there isn't much AAA.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 81,69

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Ushio, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 81,69

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 13
TBF-1 Avenger x 5

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
DD Ushio, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage


Oh wait! Ushio is "not dead yet" and she has friends. In fact, USS Porpoise ends her "porpoise-driven life".*

Sub attack near Laoag at 81,69

Japanese Ships
DD Suzukaze
DD Hayashio
DD Ushio, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Porpoise, hits 12, and is sunk


* Used without permission from ALSP.

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 6/1/2013 3:22:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just barely got a 1:1 attack at Altimonan. Guess we need air support. I was going to send some combat engineers but I diverted them to Manira.

Ground combat at Atimonan (80,79)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2649 troops, 51 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 120

Defending force 2730 troops, 20 guns, 49 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Allied adjusted assault: 25

Japanese adjusted defense: 24

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
34th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
3rd Naval Construction Battalion
20th JAAF Base Force
30th JNAF AF Unit



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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 6/1/2013 3:28:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Burma: JJ has started a retreat from Northern Burma. They abandoned Myitkynia and Paoshan (I think). You saw the picture of the capture and beautification of Myitkynia. Now we get to install a proper garden and some walking paths, maybe a reflection pool at Katha. The B-24's apparently took the day off.


Ground combat at Katha (61,43)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 2958 troops, 36 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 149

Defending force 1445 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 59

Allied adjusted assault: 55

Japanese adjusted defense: 19

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Katha !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
204 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
153 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
77th Chindit Brigade

Defending units:
14th Naval Guard Unit

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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 6/1/2013 3:35:20 PM   
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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 6/1/2013 3:49:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Burma. Interesting situation. Not sure where ALSP intends to cross the Salween. Prome would be tough. A river assault and 6 LYB units.




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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 6/1/2013 4:11:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you look carefully you can see the pip on 20th Indian. Where they are headed will put them in a position to cross the Salween NE of Prome somewhere, causing consternation among the WJD and forcing them to spread out. The boys from Ramree could then try to get across N or S of Prome or go head to head.




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RE: Mars vs. Venus - 6/1/2013 9:01:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		The 20K WJD moving out of Shwebo could have been trying to Strat move to Katha and the train crew went on strike when they heard the Allies took it. If so, it will take them a while to get their stuff on the road again, or they might recognize the bigger threats to the south and back up the train.
Looks like Taung Gyi and the base NW of it are the keys to locking up N Burma.

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