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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/28/2013 3:53:56 PM   
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About the duel TE offence observation from a month ago. Houston, erm I mean New England, we have a problem....
Flexible is good,but maybe there is such a thing as too flexible....

Rasmus


Yes. It seems Mr. Hernandez took things a bit too literally when the coach told him to "get out there and execute!"


Not to be outdone by Tebow, he invented the new trend called "murdering"

Careful jeffk3510 - you live in the same country and could be sued for defamation! You must qualify your term and call it "allegedly" murdering!!

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/28/2013 7:27:27 PM   
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The Cheesy Hammy Eggy goes International! No hyphens.

Dead easy, Elephants Footprints:


Elephant's Footprints

Ingredients
•1 Tin of Spam
•1 Bowl of Batter

Method
Slice Spam in quarter inch rings, dip in batter & deep fry until crisp




These questions:

1) I think Spam comes in rectangular cans in the US? Should we make a rectangular elephants' footprint..or do we trim off the corners? And you really mean "rings" with hollow centers or do you mean medallions?

2) What's in the batter? This won't be obvious to everyone. Egg and flour? Bisquik?

3) Do you mean deep fry or skillet fry?

4) Can we use chicken gravy?

5) What dose of Lipitor do you need for this?*




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1. We're relaxed about this, use any shape you like but "Elephant's Footprint" should be a clue.

2. Bisquik is fine.

3. You can deep fry. If skillet frying you will need to flip it.

4. No. Serve with mashed potato and baked beans.

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/28/2013 8:28:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Walloc

About the duel TE offence observation from a month ago. Houston, erm I mean New England, we have a problem....
Flexible is good,but maybe there is such a thing as too flexible....

Rasmus


Yes. It seems Mr. Hernandez took things a bit too literally when the coach told him to "get out there and execute!"


Not to be outdone by Tebow, he invented the new trend called "murdering"

Careful jeffk3510 - you live in the same country and could be sued for defamation! You must qualify your term and call it "allegedly" murdering!!


I just noticed you're from Winnipeg. I was up in your "neck of the woods" sort of last summer fishing on Birch Lake...the red dot is the camp. Favorite place on earth. I am assuming you know where Trout Lake is...






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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/28/2013 9:19:22 PM   
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There are so many lakes called "Trout Lake" and "Birch Lake" that I had to look up "Perrigo Lake" to find out your map was from Northern Ontario. I grew up in the same kind of territory in Northern Manitoba, gazillion lakes, lots of good fishing, poor TV reception! From Winnipeg, I generally go within province for fishing trips - no need to buy a license for a different province which is offering the same experience.

Sorry for the hijack Cap M and Lord SP, but it does increase your post count.

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/28/2013 9:21:45 PM   
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There are so many lakes called "Trout Lake" and "Birch Lake" that I had to look up "Perrigo Lake" to find out your map was from Northern Ontario. I grew up in the same kind of territory in Northern Manitoba, gazillion lakes, lots of good fishing, poor TV reception! From Winnipeg, I generally go within province for fishing trips - no need to buy a license for a different province which is offering the same experience.

Sorry for the hijack Cap M and Lord SP, but it does increase your post count.


Understood completely. I love love love it up there!

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/28/2013 10:05:35 PM   
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There are so many lakes called "Trout Lake" and "Birch Lake" that I had to look up "Perrigo Lake" to find out your map was from Northern Ontario. I grew up in the same kind of territory in Northern Manitoba, gazillion lakes, lots of good fishing, poor TV reception! From Winnipeg, I generally go within province for fishing trips - no need to buy a license for a different province which is offering the same experience.

Sorry for the hijack Cap M and Lord SP, but it does increase your post count.

Are any of those lakes straight or maybe have straits?

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/28/2013 10:12:21 PM   
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There are so many lakes called "Trout Lake" and "Birch Lake" that I had to look up "Perrigo Lake" to find out your map was from Northern Ontario. I grew up in the same kind of territory in Northern Manitoba, gazillion lakes, lots of good fishing, poor TV reception! From Winnipeg, I generally go within province for fishing trips - no need to buy a license for a different province which is offering the same experience.

Sorry for the hijack Cap M and Lord SP, but it does increase your post count.

Are any of those lakes straight or maybe have straits?




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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/29/2013 2:09:39 AM   
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There are so many lakes called "Trout Lake" and "Birch Lake" that I had to look up "Perrigo Lake" to find out your map was from Northern Ontario. I grew up in the same kind of territory in Northern Manitoba, gazillion lakes, lots of good fishing, poor TV reception! From Winnipeg, I generally go within province for fishing trips - no need to buy a license for a different province which is offering the same experience.

Sorry for the hijack Cap M and Lord SP, but it does increase your post count.

Are any of those lakes straight or maybe have straits?

No, most of them are downright kinky ....

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/29/2013 2:32:59 PM   
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************April 24, 1943(c)***************

You would have to say we lost this turn.

PI: Wichita "milk run" raid moderately effective.


Night Naval bombardment of San Fernando at 80,74

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 7 damaged
D3A2 Val: 2 damaged
D3A1 Val: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Wichita
DD Cony

Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Runway hits 7
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1


Damn it all to Hell. Somebody wants this thing to last forever. At least her fuel tanks did not explode...as they are want to do.

Sub attack near Laoag at 80,72

Japanese Ships
SS I-6, hits 2

Allied Ships
CVE Prince William, Torpedo hits 1
DD Fletcher
DD Monssen
DD Strong


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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/29/2013 2:43:34 PM   
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*********Radio Room, USS Wichita, 01:20, April 24, 1943(c)**********


<from speaker box>:Apache this is Geronimo. Your shot is long 400 yds , over..........Apache this is Geronimo. I say again your shot is long 400 yds, over..."


Radioman 1st Class Campbell: <lost in thought, headphone around neck> ...And I need you all the time......And the Wichita lineman....is still on the LIIIIIIIIIINE....hot damn! THAT'S GOOD!"

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/29/2013 3:10:40 PM   
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2 transports without a good escort tyring to get engineers to Lingayen. I blame the staff.

Submarine attack near Clark Field at 78,76

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
xAP Kota Pinang, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)


JJ tries to shut down Batanes...be we ready for them..we show up. Ida...hohoho

Morning Air attack on Batan Island , at 85,70

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-36 Ida x 11
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 24
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 11

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 29
F6F-3 Hellcat x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-36 Ida: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

Runway hits 5


WJD AK's with E boats at Hencheng or Hunchong or Hangchang or soemthing like that ("SW" tip of Formosa). Maybe they were loading up for Batanes? Or inbound to Takao. They seem not to have troops aboard. We also learn Formosa has fighters. First some TBF's from Batanes without escort.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Hengchun at 84,67

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
A6M3a Zero x 2
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4

Allied aircraft
TBF-1 Avenger x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 6 destroyed

And then from the carriers off the caost of northern Luzon. We are losing a lot of planes.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Hengchun at 84,67

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
A6M3a Zero x 2
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
F6F-3 Hellcat x 10
SBD-3 Dauntless x 28

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Kiyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Shichiyo Maru
xAK Mutsuyo Maru
xAK Syunsei Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage


More carrier planes. The CAP is worn out now.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Hengchun at 84,67

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
A6M3a Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 6
SBD-3 Dauntless x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Syunsei Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Kiyo Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Hoshin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire


TBF's from Batanes. The CAP is back.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hengchun at 84,67

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
A6M3a Zero x 7
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 19

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 4
TBF-1 Avenger x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed


Afternoon attack from the carriers. We get one of the E boats.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hengchun at 84,67

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
A6M3a Zero x 7
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
F6F-3 Hellcat x 13
SBD-3 Dauntless x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
xAK Shichiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Hoshin Maru, heavy fires
E W-25
xAK Mutsuyo Maru, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
E Nuwashima, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
E Yurijima


Stragglers. Ach.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hengchun at 84,67

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
A6M3a Zero x 7
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 15

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
E Nuwashima, and is sunk



Whatever that TF was doing, they will have to change their orders...but we lost a lot of SBD's and TBF's

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/29/2013 3:26:31 PM   
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The other AP trying to get Lingayen without escorts is hit.

Submarine attack near Clark Field at 78,76

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
xAP St. Mihel, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/29/2013 3:29:35 PM   
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China: Big attack in the woods south of Chungking. The seige of Chungking is on. Can you imagine what 5 experienced WJD divisions could do on Luzon?

Ground combat at 75,46 (near Chungking)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 50495 troops, 470 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 1225

Defending force 5047 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 185

Japanese adjusted assault: 1616

Allied adjusted defense: 25

Japanese assault odds: 64 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1173 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 84 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2664 casualties reported
Squads: 130 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
3rd Division
40th Division
23rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
60th Division
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
37th Division

Defending units:
96th Chinese Corps
36th Chinese Division


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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/29/2013 4:12:46 PM   
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Looks like Hosin Maru is doomed. A great victory for the allies!
With the entire supply of a strategic material in her holds, Japan will soon have no choice but to concede.






I know, I know - they spelled the ship name wrong ...

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/29/2013 4:33:44 PM   
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Maybe they can switch to chicken gravy.

Speaking of gravy, which seems to come up often, if you are ever in Charleston, y'all have to try the Big Nasty Biscuits at Hominy Grill. Be nice to the wait-staff and ask for some extra sausage gravy. The stuff is like liquid crack. I am pretty sure if you wanted Elephant's Footprints they would have Spam in the back too.

If you are a sissy-boy (not that there is anything wrong with that) you can get gluten-free pancakes too.






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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/29/2013 4:46:48 PM   
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Looks like Hosin Maru is doomed. A great victory for the allies!
With the entire supply of a strategic material in her holds, Japan will soon have no choice but to concede.






I know, I know - they spelled the ship name wrong ...

Yeah, get it strait!

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/29/2013 5:06:52 PM   
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Speaking of Formosa. That's where Mrs. Chang is from, although it's called Taiwan now.

It's already over 85 here and she is out cripping her roses in a pink hoodie sweatshirt, a pink hat under the hoodie that has a 2 foot wide brim in front, gloves, giant sunglasses and long pants.

She looks like she has just drawn the short straw and has been sent into the containment building at Fukushima to turn off a sticky valve.

She walks around cripping off spent flowers and then calls out to the gardeners.."ovah here..ovah here", motioning them to come over and pick up her crippings.

Meanwhile they are trying to get the heavy stuff done before the develop heat exhaustion. One of these days, one of those boys from Morelia is going to bury a pick ax in her skull and I am not going to say anything bad at the trial.

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 1:27:31 AM   
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Hopeful Ivatan woman applies for job at Milo's Brestaurant. The blonde wig was her husband's idea.


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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 2:36:31 AM   
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So - we finally know what happened to all those 1960's shag carpets ...

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 5:40:26 AM   
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I actually remember shag carpets. It must have been after the 60's.

On the other hand, I'm not sure breastaurants existed in the 40's.

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 9:35:00 AM   
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Read this in the news today, " A mother of seven, Ursula von der Leyen is Germany's labour minister..."

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 1:34:16 PM   
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Another aircrew laid to rest

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 2:20:12 PM   
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Time to get the Crabs off Ramree and more Airey-Fairies in me thinks.

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 2:22:00 PM   
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If only they could speak English like Jack does.

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 2:23:43 PM   
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Meanwhile back in Calcutta

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 2:40:22 PM   
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Read this in the news today, " A mother of seven, Ursula von der Leyen is Germany's labour minister..."



That's a Von der ful story!

Her Italian counterpart is Alotta Fagina

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 2:45:52 PM   
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Another aircrew laid to rest


Good work by the investigators.

Princess Anne came by and dedicated a memorial at Greenham Commons where my uncle, along with 15 others, was killed in a B-17 midair in 1944. The family lore was that it was a mission over the Bulge. It wasn't, but still ballsy flying around in bad weather with dozens of planes. He was in 2nd Lt Wilke's plane.

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The first part of the memorial - The B17 Flying Fortress crash
The two B-17s, one from the 368th Bombardment Squadron and one from the 423rd Bombardment Squadron of the 306th Bombing Group, were returning from a mission in the German industrial heartland of Kassel when the accident occurred.

The aircrews of the 306th BG, known as the Reich Wreckers, were some of the most experienced in the U.S. Air Force, but fog enveloped northern Europe - the targets in Kassel were so obscured the bombs had to be dropped by radar. The weather worsened on their return to England and the two bombers, leading the formation back to their U.S. Eighth Air Force base at RAF Thurleigh, were diverted to RAF Greenham Common. At about 2,100 feet, the 368th BS B-17G, piloted by 2nd Lt. Charles Crooks, collided with the 423rd BS B-17G, piloted by 2nd Lt. Lorn Wilke.

Both planes crashed near Greenham Common, killing all but two of the 18 crewmen. Wilke remembered hearing a loud noise, followed by an explosion. His plane blew apart at the cockpit and he and his co-pilot, 1st Lt. John Murphy, were able to bail out, deploy their parachutes and escape. Crooks and the entire crew of the 368th BS plane were killed. Because of the bad weather, the collision was unobserved by other flyers in the formation.

Both Flying Fortresses ended up roughly two miles apart from each other - B-17 tail number 43-37633 (368th BS plane) near Bishops Green and B-17 tail number 43-38019 (423rd BS plane) near the Swan Roundabout, Newtown, to the west.

According to the USAAF accident report, dated January 1945: "The accident was unavoidable. The formation ran into conditions of extreme poor visibility and it is apparent that neither pilot saw the other aircraft."


http://www.usafe.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123319276

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 3:14:54 PM   
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I know they have the same service rating but I swear the PB4Y is harder to maintain than the B-24-D/D1.

I suspect you know who is behind it.

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 3:19:14 PM   
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I know they have the same service rating but I swear the PB4Y is harder to maintain than the B-24-D/D1.

I suspect you know who is behind it.

You mean that same union rep who fixed the Army/Navy game?

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RE: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor - 6/30/2013 3:26:37 PM   
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We are completely out of SBD-3's. In 7 d, the SBD-5 and SB2C-1C arrive. Assuming the war isn't over by then, which should we use (we will probably need both to fill out depleted squadrons to tell you the truth)?

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