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best AMC raid ever - 8/6/2013 12:40:15 PM   
wallentin

 

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Status: offline 		Day Time Surface Combat, near Anatom at 123,167, Range 14,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AMC Shimada Maru, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB Idaho, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
CA San Francisco
CL Raleigh
CL Detroit
CL Helena
CL Phoenix
CL Honolulu
DD Jarvis
DD Craven
DD McCall
DD Maury
DD Tucker
DD Cassin
AS Sperry
AO Guadalupe
TK Sunadmiral
TK William Sunoco
xAK Steel Scientist, Shell hits 1
xAK Steel Worker
xAK Lihue
xAK Mahukona, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Makiki
xAK Manoa
xAK Mokihana
xAK Olopana
xAK Waimea
xAK Waipo
xAK Mormacland
xAK Mormacrio
xAK Mormacsul
xAK San Angelo
xAK San Vincente
xAK Maine
xAK Admiral Chase
xAK West Cape
xAK West Ira
xAK West Ivis
xAK West Planter
xAK Wallingford
xAK Am. Builder
xAK City of Dalhart
xAK City of Rayville
xAK Jeff Davis
xAK Nightingale
xAK Potter
xAK Sawokla
TK Mobilgas
TK Hagood
TK Halo
TK Esso Richmond
TK Gulfcoast
TK Gulfpride
TK Gulfhawk
TK Gulfland
TK H. M. Storey
xAK Hauraki
xAK Suva
xAK Chios
xAK Evi Livanos



Reduced visibility due to Rain
Maximum visibility in Rain: 15,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 14,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 14,000 yards
BB Idaho engages AMC Shimada Maru at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
AMC Shimada Maru engages BB Idaho at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
AMC Shimada Maru engages BB Idaho at 11,000 yards
xAK Mahukona sunk by AMC Shimada Maru at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
AMC Shimada Maru engages BB Idaho at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
AMC Shimada Maru engages BB Idaho at 12,000 yards
AMC Shimada Maru engages xAK Steel Scientist at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
TK Eidsvold collides with TK William Sunoco at 123 , 167
AS Sperry , AO Guadalupe , TK War Sirdar ,
TK Herborg , TK Seirstad , TK Elsa ,
TK Erling Brovig , TK Salland , TK Eidsvold ,
TK Pan Europa , TK Osthav , TK Falkefjell ,
TK Belita , TK H. M. Storey , TK Gulfland ,
TK Gulfhawk , TK Gulfpride , TK Gulfcoast ,
TK Esso Richmond , TK Halo , TK Hagood ,
TK Mobilgas , TK William Sunoco , TK Sunadmiral ,
xAK Theofano Livanos , xAK Evi Livanos , xAK Chios ,
xAK Suva , xAK Hauraki , xAK Sawokla ,
xAK Potter , xAK Nightingale , xAK Jeff Davis screened from combat
- escorted by DD Cassin , DD Tucker , DD Maury ,
DD McCall
BB Idaho engages AMC Shimada Maru at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 14,000 yards
AS Sperry , AO Guadalupe , TK War Sirdar ,
TK Herborg , TK Seirstad , TK Elsa ,
TK Erling Brovig , TK Salland , TK Eidsvold ,
TK Pan Europa , TK Osthav , TK Falkefjell ,
TK Belita , TK H. M. Storey , TK Gulfland ,
TK Gulfhawk , TK Gulfpride , TK Gulfcoast ,
TK Esso Richmond , TK Halo , TK Hagood ,
TK Mobilgas , TK William Sunoco , TK Sunadmiral ,
xAK Theofano Livanos , xAK Evi Livanos , xAK Chios ,
xAK Suva , xAK Hauraki , xAK Sawokla ,
xAK Potter , xAK Nightingale , xAK Jeff Davis ,
xAK City of Rayville , xAK City of Dalhart , xAK Am. Builder ,
xAK Wallingford , xAK West Planter , xAK West Ivis ,
xAK West Ira , xAK West Cape , xAK Admiral Chase screened from combat
- escorted by DD Cassin , DD Maury , DD Craven
BB Idaho engages AMC Shimada Maru at 14,000 yards
Kikuchiyo A. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range closes to 13,000 yards
AS Sperry , AO Guadalupe , TK War Sirdar ,
TK Herborg , TK Seirstad , TK Elsa ,
TK Erling Brovig , TK Salland , TK Eidsvold ,
TK Pan Europa , TK Osthav , TK Falkefjell ,
TK Belita , TK H. M. Storey , TK Gulfland ,
TK Gulfhawk , TK Gulfpride , TK Gulfcoast ,
TK Esso Richmond , TK Halo , TK Hagood ,
TK Mobilgas , TK William Sunoco , TK Sunadmiral ,
xAK Theofano Livanos , xAK Evi Livanos , xAK Chios ,
xAK Suva , xAK Hauraki , xAK Sawokla ,
xAK Potter , xAK Nightingale , xAK Jeff Davis ,
xAK City of Rayville , xAK City of Dalhart , xAK Am. Builder ,
xAK Wallingford , xAK West Planter , xAK West Ivis ,
xAK West Ira , xAK West Cape , xAK Admiral Chase ,
xAK Maine , xAK San Vincente , xAK San Angelo ,
xAK Mormacsul , xAK Mormacrio , xAK Mormacland ,
xAK Waipo , xAK Waimea , xAK Olopana ,
xAK Mokihana , xAK Manoa , xAK Makiki screened from combat
- escorted by DD Tucker , DD Maury , DD Craven
BB Idaho sunk by AMC Shimada Maru at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 16,000 yards
AS Sperry , AO Guadalupe , TK War Sirdar ,
TK Herborg , TK Seirstad screened from combat
- escorted by DD Cassin , DD Tucker , DD Maury ,
DD McCall , DD Craven , DD Jarvis
Range increases to 21,000 yards
AS Sperry , AO Guadalupe , TK War Sirdar ,
TK Herborg , TK Seirstad , TK Elsa ,
TK Erling Brovig , TK Salland , TK Eidsvold ,
TK Pan Europa , TK Osthav , TK Falkefjell ,
TK Belita , TK H. M. Storey , TK Gulfland ,
TK Gulfhawk , TK Gulfpride , TK Gulfcoast ,
TK Esso Richmond , TK Halo , TK Hagood ,
TK Mobilgas , TK William Sunoco , TK Sunadmiral ,
xAK Theofano Livanos , xAK Evi Livanos , xAK Chios ,
xAK Suva , xAK Hauraki , xAK Sawokla ,
xAK Potter , xAK Nightingale , xAK Jeff Davis ,
xAK City of Rayville , xAK City of Dalhart , xAK Am. Builder ,
xAK Wallingford , xAK West Planter , xAK West Ivis ,
xAK West Ira , xAK West Cape , xAK Admiral Chase ,
xAK Maine screened from combat
- escorted by DD Cassin , DD Maury , DD Craven
AMC Shimada Maru engages CA San Francisco at 21,000 yards
Range increases to 23,000 yards
AS Sperry , AO Guadalupe , TK War Sirdar ,
TK Herborg , TK Seirstad , TK Elsa ,
TK Erling Brovig , TK Salland , TK Eidsvold ,
TK Pan Europa , TK Osthav , TK Falkefjell screened from combat
- escorted by DD Cassin , DD Tucker , DD Maury ,
DD McCall , DD Craven
CA San Francisco engages AMC Shimada Maru at 23,000 yards
Task forces break off...





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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/6/2013 12:58:38 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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That looks like an Ironman AMC........

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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/6/2013 12:59:27 PM   
btbw

 

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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/6/2013 1:25:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Doesn't get much better than that.

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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/6/2013 2:10:16 PM   
Itdepends

 

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Status: offline 		That's a very strange allied TF composition. It's not an amphib TF, it's got to be transport- but why have a all the combat ships in with the TF- crazy.

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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/6/2013 2:15:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		The "Iron Man AMCs" can easy trash any CL/CA, but i never saw them kill a BB. But i guess that was mainly because i didn't had any BBs left after the japanese carriers turned PH and Seattle into rubble.

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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/6/2013 2:46:28 PM   
wallentin

 

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Status: offline 		It was mainly a supply convoy to SW pacific. But same time I tried to move my brand new and combat ready BB and some repaired CLs to the same area together.
Was a short trip.

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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/6/2013 7:27:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Aside from escorts never combine major warships with a regular cargo or transport convoy. They suffer a penalty from being an escort and I think the over large TF can cause problems as well. You should have had them (warships) in a dedicated surface TF and they would have been fine. Even if following the cargo TF.

Odds are your dedicated surface TF would have intercepted the AMC and shot her up. Worse case is the AMC would have run amok in the cargo TF first but you get plenty of cargo ships and can take the loss. That BB is gone forever though. A lessen learned..

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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/6/2013 8:12:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		And what's the date? Must be early in '42 as no Allied radar? I noticed that a lot of the DDs ended up simply screening the merchants. I'd rather have them fighting, so agree with crsutton.

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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/6/2013 11:29:27 PM   
Phanatikk


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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/7/2013 9:20:29 AM   
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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/7/2013 10:19:47 AM   
Banzan

 

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If you really want to cry as an AFB, try the "enhanced" Iron Man from Andy Mac.

< Message edited by Banzan -- 8/7/2013 10:25:28 AM >

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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/8/2013 1:49:26 PM   
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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/8/2013 2:38:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Notice that the Ironman AMCs also carry Rufes which makes them immune to long range unescorted strikes by PBYs.

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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/9/2013 3:39:00 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/9/2013 7:17:36 PM   
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RE: best AMC raid ever - 8/10/2013 2:21:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		This brings to mind my junior high school days when I told my friend that he could create German merchant raiders for our Jutland game. Imagine my surprise when his merchant raider had a stronger broadside than the HMS Agincourt...

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