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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/24/2013 6:02:34 PM   
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By the way, at Sabang I have SWPac HQ. I don't recall what the prep is, but I think it'll be 100% by the time it's called on for an conceivable land combat in range.


You need a Corps HQ with the same prepp to get the 90% AV bonus! Obviously that bonus only applies on the target they are prepped for.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/24/2013 6:35:49 PM   
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The SWPac HQ is vital for other reasons, though. It has lots of nav support, so Allied units came ashore very rapidly even though Sabang was a level one port. For that reason, I've been able to concentrate solely on airfield construction, which now stands at 7.14.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/24/2013 8:48:05 PM   
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32 y 19.6 xB3 99 Bravo


Really? Are you sure? Those Coastal Defense guns at Yokohama are going to be murder!

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/24/2013 9:24:51 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/25/2013 1:30:30 PM   
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Bay of Bengal: The KB is seven hexes SW of Koggala, Ceylon (and lost something like 20 patrol Kates to CAP over Colombo). I don't think John knows that my carriers are just 11 hexes NE. They'll move to a point a hex or two west/SW of Colombo tomorrow. I don't think John will come any clsoer to Colombo. If anything, yesterday's Kate slaughter will probably discourage him. But there's a small chance forces will collide, enhanced by the possibility John thinks my carrirers are deep in the Bay (his patrols picked up a large concentration of TF - but they're merchants - midway between Port Blair and Chittagong). More likely that KB will pull away, which will give the Allied carriers an opportunity to refuel and take replacement aircraft.

Sumatra: Sabang ow has 700+ mines with two ACM.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/25/2013 5:28:36 PM   
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Ross! The 70s? That's the black hold of the motion picture era. The '30s through early '50s were golden, and really the '90s through the present day have been great. But the '70s were just plain awful.*

*Note: This, of course, is my own humble opinion based on my subjective likes and dislikes. In particular, I dislike vulgarity, sleaze, and movies with an overtly political agenda. That leaves about three decent movies from the '70s.


I somehow missed the great 70s movie debate that I started here. I get the feeling that if the great canoe paddler and I go to the multiplex together, we are going to end up in different theaters..

I love all films of all eras but the 70s was my coming of age time and was the coming of age time for American Cinema as well. My wife and I have spent the last two years re watching and watching some of the best films from that decade. Some have already been mentioned but here are a few that were missed.

The Conversation.
Badlands
Little Big Man
Being There
Cabaret
The Last Detail
The Man Who Would be King
The Sunshine Boys
The Garden of Finzi Continis
Breaking Away
All the Presidents Men
Young Frankenstein
A Bridge Too Far
Midnight Express
The Goodbye Girl
A Clockwork Orange
Network
M.A.S.H
American Graffiti
Alien (I still can't watch it twice)
Dog Day Afternoon
The Spirit of the Beehive
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Not really. Just threw it in to get Dan excited)




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/25/2013 5:48:35 PM   
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Ross! The 70s? That's the black hold of the motion picture era. The '30s through early '50s were golden, and really the '90s through the present day have been great. But the '70s were just plain awful.*

*Note: This, of course, is my own humble opinion based on my subjective likes and dislikes. In particular, I dislike vulgarity, sleaze, and movies with an overtly political agenda. That leaves about three decent movies from the '70s.


I somehow missed the great 70s movie debate that I started here. I get the feeling that if the great canoe paddler and I go to the multiplex together, we are going to end up in different theaters..

I love all films of all eras but the 70s was my coming of age time and was the coming of age time for American Cinema as well. My wife and I have spent the last two years re watching and watching some of the best films from that decade. Some have already been mentioned but here are a few that were missed.

The Conversation.
Badlands
Little Big Man
Being There
Cabaret
The Last Detail
The Man Who Would be King
The Sunshine Boys
The Garden of Finzi Continis
Breaking Away
All the Presidents Men
Young Frankenstein
A Bridge Too Far
Midnight Express
The Goodbye Girl
A Clockwork Orange
Network
M.A.S.H
American Graffiti
Alien (I still can't watch it twice)
Dog Day Afternoon
The Spirit of the Beehive
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Not really. Just threw it in to get Dan excited)



I'm with you. The 70s is when Hollywood finally cast off the studio system and independent superstar directors like Scorcese came to the fore. How can any decade with "Godfather I and II" be poor?

The list of Best Pictures is magnificent. "The Sting"? One of the best two hours I ever spent in a theater. I never saw the end coming; innocent times I guess. "Kramer vs. Kramer" holds up today, especially if you're divorced. "Jaws" I recall mostly for the loose halter top my date wore (on purpose; she had ideas), but it scared me as badly as "The Exorcist". (I grew up in Virginia Beach, largely in the water.) And I don't think anyone has mentioned "Star Wars." Great? Not in a "Citizen Kane" sense, but it did more to change movies for fifty years than any other title. We're still in the summer blockbuster era because of it and its descendants. You can accurately judge your real age if you answer the simple question "Did I take a date to see "Star Wars?" I did, and thus I am very, very old.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/25/2013 6:38:21 PM   
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You can accurately judge your real age if you answer the simple question "Did I take a date to see "Star Wars?" I did, and thus I am very, very old.


Ha! I meant to put Star Wars on here, but of course I saw it in a theater at age 5! I still remember waiting in line and the buzz afterward in the parking lot. Not just me making laser and explosion sounds.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/25/2013 8:12:06 PM   
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Ross! The 70s? That's the black hold of the motion picture era. The '30s through early '50s were golden, and really the '90s through the present day have been great. But the '70s were just plain awful.*

*Note: This, of course, is my own humble opinion based on my subjective likes and dislikes. In particular, I dislike vulgarity, sleaze, and movies with an overtly political agenda. That leaves about three decent movies from the '70s.


I somehow missed the great 70s movie debate that I started here. I get the feeling that if the great canoe paddler and I go to the multiplex together, we are going to end up in different theaters..

I love all films of all eras but the 70s was my coming of age time and was the coming of age time for American Cinema as well. My wife and I have spent the last two years re watching and watching some of the best films from that decade. Some have already been mentioned but here are a few that were missed.

The Conversation.
Badlands
Little Big Man
Being There
Cabaret
The Last Detail
The Man Who Would be King
The Sunshine Boys
The Garden of Finzi Continis
Breaking Away
All the Presidents Men
Young Frankenstein
A Bridge Too Far
Midnight Express
The Goodbye Girl
A Clockwork Orange
Network
M.A.S.H
American Graffiti
Alien (I still can't watch it twice)
Dog Day Afternoon
The Spirit of the Beehive
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Not really. Just threw it in to get Dan excited)



I'm with you. The 70s is when Hollywood finally cast off the studio system and independent superstar directors like Scorcese came to the fore. How can any decade with "Godfather I and II" be poor?

The list of Best Pictures is magnificent. "The Sting"? One of the best two hours I ever spent in a theater. I never saw the end coming; innocent times I guess. "Kramer vs. Kramer" holds up today, especially if you're divorced. "Jaws" I recall mostly for the loose halter top my date wore (on purpose; she had ideas), but it scared me as badly as "The Exorcist". (I grew up in Virginia Beach, largely in the water.) And I don't think anyone has mentioned "Star Wars." Great? Not in a "Citizen Kane" sense, but it did more to change movies for fifty years than any other title. We're still in the summer blockbuster era because of it and its descendants. You can accurately judge your real age if you answer the simple question "Did I take a date to see "Star Wars?" I did, and thus I am very, very old.


How could I take a date when I was saving myself for Princess Leia?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/25/2013 8:29:56 PM   
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You can accurately judge your real age if you answer the simple question "Did I take a date to see "Star Wars?" I did, and thus I am very, very old.


Ha! I meant to put Star Wars on here, but of course I saw it in a theater at age 5! I still remember waiting in line and the buzz afterward in the parking lot. Not just me making laser and explosion sounds.


I was in college. I took a comely William and Mary girl who was a Charlottesville townie. She later became a lawyer, but I don't hold that against her. The thing about "Star Wars" when you think about it now was the lack of marketing. Movie openings are such machine operations now with the Net, entertainment shows on TV, massive PR, etc. Then all I knew about the movie was a poster on the side of the theater. No buzz. I thought it was a B movie for a summer afternoon with, as I said, a comely W&M girl eager to grow up. But when those yellow words got done scrolling and that GIANT spaceship came over my head from the back of the theater I was sitting there with my mouth open, and I didn't close it for two hours. I knew I was seeing history being made. It was that big a gut punch.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/25/2013 8:31:02 PM   
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Ross! The 70s? That's the black hold of the motion picture era. The '30s through early '50s were golden, and really the '90s through the present day have been great. But the '70s were just plain awful.*

*Note: This, of course, is my own humble opinion based on my subjective likes and dislikes. In particular, I dislike vulgarity, sleaze, and movies with an overtly political agenda. That leaves about three decent movies from the '70s.


I somehow missed the great 70s movie debate that I started here. I get the feeling that if the great canoe paddler and I go to the multiplex together, we are going to end up in different theaters..

I love all films of all eras but the 70s was my coming of age time and was the coming of age time for American Cinema as well. My wife and I have spent the last two years re watching and watching some of the best films from that decade. Some have already been mentioned but here are a few that were missed.

The Conversation.
Badlands
Little Big Man
Being There
Cabaret
The Last Detail
The Man Who Would be King
The Sunshine Boys
The Garden of Finzi Continis
Breaking Away
All the Presidents Men
Young Frankenstein
A Bridge Too Far
Midnight Express
The Goodbye Girl
A Clockwork Orange
Network
M.A.S.H
American Graffiti
Alien (I still can't watch it twice)
Dog Day Afternoon
The Spirit of the Beehive
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Not really. Just threw it in to get Dan excited)



I'm with you. The 70s is when Hollywood finally cast off the studio system and independent superstar directors like Scorcese came to the fore. How can any decade with "Godfather I and II" be poor?

The list of Best Pictures is magnificent. "The Sting"? One of the best two hours I ever spent in a theater. I never saw the end coming; innocent times I guess. "Kramer vs. Kramer" holds up today, especially if you're divorced. "Jaws" I recall mostly for the loose halter top my date wore (on purpose; she had ideas), but it scared me as badly as "The Exorcist". (I grew up in Virginia Beach, largely in the water.) And I don't think anyone has mentioned "Star Wars." Great? Not in a "Citizen Kane" sense, but it did more to change movies for fifty years than any other title. We're still in the summer blockbuster era because of it and its descendants. You can accurately judge your real age if you answer the simple question "Did I take a date to see "Star Wars?" I did, and thus I am very, very old.


How could I take a date when I was saving myself for Princess Leia?


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/25/2013 10:28:04 PM   
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You can accurately judge your real age if you answer the simple question "Did I take a date to see "Star Wars?" I did, and thus I am very, very old.


No I did not. I took my son to see it, 3 times!

Sincerely, Mr. Older Than Dirt

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 1:38:38 AM   
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You can accurately judge your real age if you answer the simple question "Did I take a date to see "Star Wars?" I did, and thus I am very, very old.


No I did not. I took my son to see it, 3 times!

Sincerely, Mr. Older Than Dirt


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 6:34:16 AM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 8:14:54 AM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 12:40:04 PM   
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Gentlemen, gentlemen, what list of great 70s movies could exclude "Animal House?" I based my college career on that movie. I still have a "College" sweatshirt. "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

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I saw it seven times in the theater. Probably ten since on tape and cable. It was the model for our fraternity rush that year. A quotable line about every sixty seconds.

"I'm a zit. Get it?"

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 4:11:30 PM   
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Ha! I meant to put Star Wars on here, but of course I saw it in a theater at age 5! I still remember waiting in line and the buzz afterward in the parking lot. Not just me making laser and explosion sounds.


I was slightly older than you, but close enough, obvert.

Good news: I saw Star Wars for the first time at the drive-in!

Bad news: ...with my parents and sister....

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 4:51:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not a sci fi fan at all, but I wholeheartedly agree that Star Wars was a great ("Wow!") movie. I think it was the best movie of the '70s. I think Tora! Tora! Tora! might have been second best, but for reasons that demonstrate how subjective this is. My wife wouldn't like Tora! at all. :)

Nearly all of the other movies nominated by good folks rate from "okay" to "yuck!" in my book. I do realize my standardd and taste are rather unusual (not better, but probably odd).

I do note that you gents have enough taste not to mention the one movie that is worse than TMTSNBN. Arg! I can't even bring myself to mention it. Let's just put it this way: Hogan's Heroes was much better and far more true to history, bumbling Gestapo agents and overweight Keystone Cops sergeant and all.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 4:54:17 PM   
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I'm not a sci fi fan at all, but I wholeheartedly agree that Star Wars was a great ("Wow!") movie. I think it was the best movie of the '70s. I think Tora! Tora! Tora! might have been second best, but for reasons that demonstrate how subjective this is. My wife wouldn't like Tora! at all. :)

Nearly all of the other movies nominated by good folks rate from "okay" to "yuck!" in my book. I do realize my standardd and taste are rather unusual (not better, but probably odd).

I do note that you gents have enough taste not to mention the one movie that is worse than TMTSNBN. Arg! I can't even bring myself to mention it. Let's just put it this way: Hogan's Heroes was much better and far more true to history, bumbling Gestapo agents and overweight Keystone Cops sergeant and all.


You must be talking about Kelly's Heroes?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 4:55:25 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 5:12:38 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 5:21:44 PM   
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On a separate train of thought, you know how some movies, while not great, for some reason really stick in your mind? How about Duel, Major Dundee, and Shenandoah? (Actually, the first and third are good movies, though not great.)

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 7:39:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I thought of 'Animal House' (1978) as a training film for college. Belushi followed it with the WW2 comedy '1941' (1979).

Some more great 70s movies that deserve mention:

'Mad Max' (1979) was a seminal work in the post-apocalypse genre, however I also like 'A Boy and his Dog' (1975) starring Don Johnson (for the surprise ending).
'Monty Python and the Holy Grail' (1974) features brave Sir Robin, namesake of the widely used Allied tactic.
'The Outlaw Josey Wales' (1976) is one of Clint Eastwood's best films
'Dirty Harry' (1971) is the best of the tough cop genre.
'The Rocky Horror Picture Show' (1975) is of course a cult classic.
"The Man Who Would Be King' (1975).




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 8:02:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Animal House" came out in my freshman year. About half the guys on my floor in the dorm went to see it, and three of them went through rush immediately after.

A B&W movie I'd add to the list -- don't recall seeing anyone mention it -- is "Twelve O'Clock High." Most -- not all, but most -- other military movies with which I'm familiar were entertaining, but just inaccurate enough (knowing what I know now) to be off-putting.

Come to think of it, "Birdman of Alcatraz" wasn't too bad, though I'm not much of a Burt Lancaster fan (maybe if he didn't use the same persona for every role I've seen I'd think differently).

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 8:09:15 PM   
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Carriers: KB is on a tour of the waters east of Diego, trending back towards home, though that can change at a snap since those carriers can leap around 18 hexes at a time (with a lethal radius, therefore, of as much as 26 hexes, that's a lengthy reach). The Allied carriers have pulled into Colombo, possibly undetected, and have refilled the aircraft squadrons. More merchantmen are ready to head to Sabang, so we'll resume the game of chicken shortly.

Sumatra: Fairly quiet here as I wait to see what John does next. SigInt reports an AA unit on a maru bound for Port Blair. This is a bit of a surprise as that's at the end of a limb for him; and yet, a strong IJN DD force just made for Victoria Point. John seems to have some plans, but I'm not sure what yet.

Burma: The Allied stack near Ramree will try a probing deliberate attack tomorrow.

xx 793 hut! hut! The Allies are about to invade Noumea. Advance elements found a IJN transport TF and sank 13 very small xAK and two SC. Then Minneapolis and Nevada bombarded the base. I know 56/c Div. is there augmented by a CD unit. The Allies have what amounts to four RCT 100% prepped. This won't be enough unless the bombardment runs are sufficient to badly disrupt the enemy. I have additional RCT and Commonwealth brigades available at Auckland, so I can reinforce if necessary. IE, I'm not sure this operation is going to succeed, but I'll push as hard as possible.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 9:21:41 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 9:28:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Several have mentioned Tora! Tora! Tora! I personally think it's a great movie and it's my "second best" of the '70s.

Jaws, like a great many of the movies listed, is entertaining but by no means "great."

The '70s were horrid for movies, style and hair.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 9:33:28 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 9:39:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are tons of '70s movies (many listed by you gents) that fit varying definitions of "entertaining," but certainly (to my way of thinking) do not reach the level of being great movies. Some quick examples from that decade: Jaws, The Sting, Deliverance, The Great Train Robbery, M*A*S*H, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Dirty Harry, Animal House, Jeremiah Johnson, Midnight Express, A Bridge to Far...

Those all have merit. There may be folks that love those movies for various personal reasons, the same way I love Tora! Tora! Tora! while my wife would fall asleep five minutes in. I'm not saying that I'm right and she's wrong, just that by my measurement these movies can't stack up to what I consider a great move: Casablanca, Gone with the Wind, Sound of Music, Singing in the Rain, My Fair Lady, Doctor Zhivago, Schindler's List, Titanic, Saving Private Ryan, Pirates of the Carribean I, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, and many more. From my perspective, I don't see how the '70s can offer anything close to what came in the '30s to '50s and '90s to present. The 70s were the black hole of movie making. A bunch of crud intermixed with a bunch of entertaining-but-not-great with a sad sprinkling of really good movies.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 8/26/2013 10:30:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey wait! What about The Godfather (1972)? Tremendous film.

And Airport 4, the Lost Weekend(1979)?


You guys are a bunch of Philistines.

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