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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 4:19:26 PM   
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take Meiktila and all supply stops flowing to Mandalay .. as does the retreat route . first stop is Magwe ..It does not look like the IJA have prepared a secondary fall back Line of resistance

Edit: I posted simultaneously with the Cap .. a paradrop into an empty Meiktila is a coup de gras to this situation


While true that taking Meiktila (sp?) would cut off supply to Mandalay (and jeapordize the retreat route), I wouldn't assume it was unprotected without some dedicated local recon. Cap'n-you got some eyes in the sky there and at Taung Gyi?

As a Jap player, I love Taung Gyi as a regional base. Very helpful having road and rail access into the Mandalay-Meiktila (sp?) area whilest still protected by dense jungle.


The Cap is right see Post #: 12991 The LYB's own Lashio .. however supply would reduce dramatically and I am not sure how many turns it would take for the supply pulse to establish by that route ..

and I agree totally with the thought that Taung Gyi is the anchor pin of a MLR that extends through the jungle hexes south-southwest .. thus my comment no secondary line of resistance yet ...

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 4:28:54 PM   
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no secondary line of resistance yet ...


Aye, but what information do we, the implaccable readers, have regarding recent recon efforts at Taung Gyi and beyond (the secondary WJD MLR)?

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 4:31:38 PM   
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See, Arries can be sneaky too.


Hmmm this is sneaky ... take Meiktila and all supply stops flowing to Mandalay .. as does the retreat route . first stop is Magwe ..It does not look like the IJA have prepared a secondary fall back Line of resistance

Edit: I posted simultaneously with the Cap .. a paradrop into an empty Meiktila is a coup de gras to this situation


We prefer foie gras.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 4:55:06 PM   
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Australian Love Poem

Of course I love ya darling, you're a bloody top-notch bird
And when I say you're gorgeous, I mean every single word
So ya bum is on the big side, I don't mind a bit of flab
It means that when I'm ready, there's somethin' there to grab
So your belly isn't flat no more, I tell ya, I don't care
So long as when I cuddle ya, I can get my arms round there
No Sheila who is your age has nice round perky breasts
They just gave in to gravity but I know ya did ya best
I'm tellin' ya the truth now, I never tell ya lies
I think it’s very sexy that you've got dimples on ya thighs
I swear on me nanna's grave now, the moment that we met
I thought you was as good, as I was ever gonna get
No matter what ya look like I'll always love ya dear
Now shut up while the cricket’s on and fetch another beer

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 4:56:41 PM   
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no secondary line of resistance yet ...


Aye, but what information do we, the implaccable readers, have regarding recent recon efforts at Taung Gyi and beyond (the secondary WJD MLR)?


When we've taken a skeg we'll let you know.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 5:22:23 PM   
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Australian Love Poem

Of course I love ya darling, you're a bloody top-notch bird
And when I say you're gorgeous, I mean every single word
So ya bum is on the big side, I don't mind a bit of flab
It means that when I'm ready, there's somethin' there to grab
So your belly isn't flat no more, I tell ya, I don't care
So long as when I cuddle ya, I can get my arms round there
No Sheila who is your age has nice round perky breasts
They just gave in to gravity but I know ya did ya best
I'm tellin' ya the truth now, I never tell ya lies
I think it’s very sexy that you've got dimples on ya thighs
I swear on me nanna's grave now, the moment that we met
I thought you was as good, as I was ever gonna get
No matter what ya look like I'll always love ya dear
Now shut up while the cricket’s on and fetch another beer


That's quite beautiful, really.

Hey, the verses rhyme too!


< Message edited by Cap Mandrake -- 8/26/2013 5:28:50 PM >

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 5:27:19 PM   
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no secondary line of resistance yet ...


Aye, but what information do we, the implaccable readers, have regarding recent recon efforts at Taung Gyi and beyond (the secondary WJD MLR)?


When we've taken a skeg we'll let you know.




Here is wha the Urban Dictionary says about "skeg"

To observe something in Hull

Giz a skeg at the baines as they lark down the tenfoot

Not sure that really helps anyone.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 5:38:41 PM   
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Took a party train down to Del Mar for the races yesterday to celebrate my brother/sister's b'day (twins). Bet on 7 races and patronized the Captain Morgan fake beachside palapa-bar then went to Fidels for food and margaritas then home on a party bus.

It was fun but a mere mortal needs to take a nap, but one dare not lest the other partiers try to toss popcorn in one's open mouth while one sleeps.

< Message edited by Cap Mandrake -- 8/26/2013 5:48:39 PM >

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 5:53:57 PM   
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I picked the two non-favorite winners on the first two races and then a place bet on a real longshot in the third.

Naturally, as a proponent of the scientific method and, having already started the 2nd rum drink, I advanced the hypothesis that "I can't ******* lose!"

Sadly, this hypothesis had to later be discarded.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 5:54:28 PM   
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Bet on 7 races and patronized the Captain Morgan fake beachside palapa-bar then went to Fidels for food and margaritas then home on a party bus.


But, did you win anything?

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 5:59:36 PM   
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I picked the two non-favorite winners on the first two races and then a place bet on a real longshot in the third.

Naturally, as a proponent of the scientific method and, having already started the 2nd rum drink, I advanced the hypothesis that "I can't ******* lose!"

Sadly, this hypothesis had to later be discarded.


N=1 .. you know one of the worst assumptions is to discard H1 and accept H0 .. a Beta error .. I might suggest a larger more statistically significant sample ..

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/26/2013 6:01:21 PM   
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Giz a skeg at the baines as they lark down the tenfoot

Not sure that really helps anyone.


Eesh...now I'm even more confused...

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/27/2013 4:03:26 AM   
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Oh, by ra way Cap'n-congrats on your pick of Mark Sanchez for your all Latino fantasy football squad! How's that workin' out for you?

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/27/2013 4:23:24 PM   
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Oh, by ra way Cap'n-congrats on your pick of Mark Sanchez for your all Latino fantasy football squad! How's that workin' out for you?


Sanchez actually played on my sons' football team in high school (do the math).


I was not that impressed. His dad was one of those "groom from birth for greatness" types which annoy the living crap out of me. He switched schools to "further his future career" so I hired a Gypsy woman to put a hex on him. He played for Mission Viejo which went 27-1 but they had a running back that would run for 300 yds per game. When you have an absolutely dominant running back like that you can toss the passes underhanded and they all work. I tried to find the Gypsy woman to get my money back. She was gone. Last football season I saw her at Pavillions with a barefoot girl pretending she was a Bosnian refugee..

Gypsy woman: Please sir, we are Bosnian Chreestians and were forc-ed to leave our couuuuntry by thee mooslims. <extends upturned palm, apparently not recognizing me>

FAM: Are you sure that wasn't the other way around?

Gypsy woman: Yes, we are shooo-ur.

FAM: <fished out a 1> OK, leave the hex on.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/27/2013 4:35:53 PM   
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Hey! The P-47's are here! Of course, it will take weeks to make into theater. Essex in 3 weeks. 2 CVE's. It's Christmas.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/27/2013 5:05:52 PM   
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I just discovered that we can "upgrade" some A-36 Mustangs in New Jersey to P-35's. I think we can free up a squadron-worth of A-36. They have to be better than the P-40B's we are using.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/27/2013 5:09:42 PM   
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I just discovered that we can "upgrade" some A-36 Mustangs in New Jersey to P-35's. I think we can free up a squadron-worth of A-36. They have to be better than the P-40B's we are using.

I'd be really careful here, Cap'n. The A-36 was configured / used as a DB, not a fighter. Your P-40Bs are likely a superior fighter platform.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/27/2013 5:40:05 PM   
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I just discovered that we can "upgrade" some A-36 Mustangs in New Jersey to P-35's. I think we can free up a squadron-worth of A-36. They have to be better than the P-40B's we are using.

I'd be really careful here, Cap'n. The A-36 was configured / used as a DB, not a fighter. Your P-40Bs are likely a superior fighter platform.



The A-36 has superior durability and guns but a slightly inferior ceiling and climb rate compared to the P-40B.

The problem we have is many, many understrength squadrons in all types. The A-36 might be OK as a point defense role somewhere in Luzon or Manado or some such thing.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/27/2013 8:46:59 PM   
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Hand Signals Only

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/27/2013 9:00:50 PM   
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What is the sign for when you are standing on the deck of a damaged CVE and a *#(@)#(# Ida drops a 60 lb bomb which flies right down the stacks, right through the disabled boiler, out through a drain, down a ladder, ricochets off a steam pipe, down another deck and then strikes a damaged hull support which cracks, causing the keel to crack like an egg?

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/27/2013 9:04:20 PM   
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I might add they also left out the Hawaiian Good Luck Sign.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/27/2013 9:05:13 PM   
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And what the Hell is a "skeg"?

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/27/2013 9:23:18 PM   
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What is the sign for when you are standing on the deck of a damaged CVE and a *#(@)#(# Ida drops a 60 lb bomb which flies right down the stacks, right through the disabled boiler, out through a drain, down a ladder, ricochets off a steam pipe, down another deck and then strikes a damaged hull support which cracks, causing the keel to crack like an egg?



.!..

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/28/2013 3:24:08 AM   
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What is the sign for when you are standing on the deck of a damaged CVE and a *#(@)#(# Ida drops a 60 lb bomb which flies right down the stacks, right through the disabled boiler, out through a drain, down a ladder, ricochets off a steam pipe, down another deck and then strikes a damaged hull support which cracks, causing the keel to crack like an egg?


I didn't see the facepalm, which I'd recommend in this instance.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/28/2013 10:18:09 AM   
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And what the Hell is a "skeg"?


a look, peek or view.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/28/2013 2:32:42 PM   
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Geez, I wonder how many times I've was "insulted overseas! As for the Moutza, jokes on him, I don't have a sister.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/28/2013 3:03:41 PM   
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Geez, I wonder how many times I've was "insulted overseas! As for the Moutza, jokes on him, I don't have a sister.


I found most of this signs not in the common repertoire but Two important ones not covered ..the ol' trick of stealing a child's nose and putting ones thumb between the index and first finger is an insult and the "OK" sign .. both meaning the same thing ... Probably what the Hispanic squid buried deep in that CVE was making .. everybody is thinking .."Hey were OK!!"

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/29/2013 10:07:01 AM   
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Meanwhile...

JJ gets all uppitty in SEAC.

Once more they try to dislodge the Op Tony force:

Ground combat at Port Blair (46,58)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 10853 troops, 125 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 158

Defending force 5213 troops, 59 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 97

Japanese adjusted assault: 69

Allied adjusted defense: 29

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
651 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 68 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Allied ground losses:
185 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
55th Infantry Regiment
10th Garrison Unit
56th Infantry Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Provisional Base Force

Defending units:
44th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
173 Wing
13th Indian Light AA Regiment
120th RAF Base Force


We kill them.

Then at Mandalay they try a counterattack:

Ground combat at Mandalay (59,46)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 15121 troops, 188 guns, 207 vehicles, Assault Value = 555

Defending force 32825 troops, 432 guns, 1170 vehicles, Assault Value = 1074

Japanese adjusted assault: 113

Allied adjusted defense: 278

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
4399 casualties reported
Squads: 170 destroyed, 132 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 107 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 81 disabled
Guns lost 45 (11 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (11 destroyed, 26 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1143 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 108 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 28 (1 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 25 (2 destroyed, 23 disabled)

Assaulting units:
124th Infantry Regiment
55th Cavalry Regiment
55th Engineer Regiment
112th Infantry Regiment
Guards Tank Division
14th Tank Regiment
7th RTA/C Division
35th Field AA Battalion
22nd JAAF AF Bn
23rd JAAF AF Bn
36th JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
25th Indian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
23rd Indian Division
50th Tank Brigade
26th Indian Division
163rd Light AA Regiment
15th Indian Engineer Battalion
85th British AT Gun Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
43rd Cavalry Engineer Regiment
12th Indian Engineer Battalion
24th Indian Engineer Battalion


We kill them too.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/29/2013 10:09:42 AM   
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Then we launch our countercounterattack:

Ground combat at Mandalay (59,46)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 29995 troops, 395 guns, 1117 vehicles, Assault Value = 952

Defending force 11372 troops, 203 guns, 199 vehicles, Assault Value = 294

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 394

Japanese adjusted defense: 39

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Mandalay !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
4361 casualties reported
Squads: 151 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 218 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 80 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 128 (109 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 176 (176 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 7

Allied ground losses:
190 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
50th Tank Brigade
25th Indian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
23rd Indian Division
26th Indian Division
6th Medium Regiment
163rd Light AA Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
12th Indian Engineer Battalion
43rd Cavalry Engineer Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
15th Indian Engineer Battalion
24th Indian Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
Guards Tank Division
112th Infantry Regiment
55th Engineer Regiment
7th RTA/C Division
22nd JAAF AF Bn
14th Tank Regiment
124th Infantry Regiment
55th Cavalry Regiment
35th Field AA Battalion
23rd JAAF AF Bn
36th JAAF AF Bn


We kill them and capture Mandalay. Ha!

Nellie can go home.

Then we add insult to injury:

Ground combat at Meiktila (58,47)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 133 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 12

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Meiktila !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
50th Indian Para Bde /1


Some days things just go right.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device - 8/29/2013 10:12:22 AM   
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We went after the airfield at Pingu today:

Morning Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 24

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 15
B-24D1 Liberator x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-36 Ida: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6


Later, much later:

Afternoon Air attack on Pegu , at 55,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 15

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 25000 feet


No more bully beef for them until they start turning up on time.

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