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Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 12:04:33 PM   
captskillet


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Status: offline 		to get his feet wet..........what scenario/rule sets do yall rec. for me to start to get a grasp of this baby? Big doesn't run me off as I have played WITP-AE

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 12:10:20 PM   
Rorschachnor

 

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Status: offline 		There is no shame in firing up the game with a clean Barbarossa without optional rules at first. Every old-school WIF-player started there I guess.

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 12:20:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		No problem. Start out with Barbarossa and the Guadalcanal scenarios to get a grip on the land and naval part of the game respectively.

Then you can dive into the grand campaign if you wish or maybe do the Waking the giant campaign. That campaign starts out with the Japanese offensive in Nov/Dec 1941.

With this start you dont have to consider US entry or the implications of aligning minors in the Balkans. The war in France can also be a bit tricky at times and you get to do a lot of fighting from the get go. The downside is that many interesting decisions about strategy are made at that time.

Regarding options I would recommend to start out slowly and use the options for beginners defined by Steve in the game.

Cheers

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 12:36:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do you know if you can save the game at any point in a turn?

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 12:38:08 PM   
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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 12:39:09 PM   
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It is designed as a computerized, automated and online multiplayer-capable World in Flames, including an integrated multiplayer forum and an official multiplayer server for easy player matching and networking.


..mean you can play hotseat with yourself without being online?

thanks

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 12:40:26 PM   
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Yes you can save in most cases.


most?

i'm just thinking that turns will take a very long time so hoping you can save at any point if needed

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 12:58:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, you can play hotseat with yourself without being online. There's a "Solitaire" mode. It's my favorite way to play MWIF, in fact, as there isn't nearly as much fog of war as there is in a game like WITP/AE.

There are some sub-phases where you can't save, but it's never a big deal. By default, the game autosaves at the start of every significant sub-phase, and your save directory will quickly fill up with dozens of these autosaves, each separately named.

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 1:00:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can save at most times. Don't worry about that :) During some shorter phases you can't save, like in alot of turn-based games. You can play solitaire with yourself yes.

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 1:16:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was thinking this ...

*Barbarossa
*Guadalcanal
*Global War 1939 start (play until end 1940 ... to get used to the Poland, Netherlands, Belgium and Conquest of France: War in China for Japs)
*Waking Giant(To get used to the Japanese opening moves into Indo, Malaya, Philippines etc.)
*Then Start your first full game Global War 1939

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 1:16:29 PM   
sanderz

 

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Status: offline 		thanks for clearing that up guys

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 1:43:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I was lucky enough to be buying I'd dive right in the deep end. All recommended optional rules will be on!!

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 1:47:08 PM   
sanderz

 

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Status: offline 		Never having played the board game i am looking forward to some AARs and maybe someone will do a youtube letsplay, or would that not work because turns take too long. How long do turns take?

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 2:14:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turns can go by quickly in the early war, and longer in the late war. Turns can also go on longer when significant events are underway (e.g. first turn of German attack on France, first turn of Barbarossa, Japan's big attack in the Pacific, Normandy landings, and so on).

Here are some pre-release AARs: one of the 1939 global campaign, and one of the 1944 global campaign. They are a little bit stalled right now, but you can get a feel for some of the look & feel of the game.

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 2:44:00 PM   
sanderz

 

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Status: offline 		thanks, will definitely have a look through those

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 3:54:43 PM   
Shannon V. OKeets

 

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ORIGINAL: sanderz


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ORIGINAL: rekm41

Yes you can save in most cases.


most?

i'm just thinking that turns will take a very long time so hoping you can save at any point if needed

Of the 60 phases in the game, I think there are automatic saves in 50+ of them. There are also automatic saves for about half of the subphases. Subphases exist for the combat sequences, the declaration of war phase, forming Vichy France, etc. To keep track of all the details in the midst of a combat involves a lot of extra variables. Writing them out to the disk (for a saved game) and restoring them requires a lot of code and runs the risk that some things might get dropped. As I said, most of time a save can be made (and often is done so automatically if you have that flag set to ON). But in the middle of the 28 subphases of a naval combat, making saves is usually not possible. Sorry, but I had to draw the line somewhere.

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RE: Help a newb.......... - 11/7/2013 3:59:33 PM   
Shannon V. OKeets

 

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ORIGINAL: captskillet

to get his feet wet..........what scenario/rule sets do yall rec. for me to start to get a grasp of this baby? Big doesn't run me off as I have played WITP-AE

Barbarossa, Novice rules, Solitaire mode. Then the same for Guadalcanal.

For an even faster start, restore the saved games for those two scenarios. Those skip over selecting optional rules, scrapping units, lend leasing units, randomly drawing units, and setting up units on the map. They start with most of the preparations for "setting up" done.

The drawbacks to using the Fast Start games are the same as their strengths: you don't get to select optional rules, scrap units, ...

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