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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/26/2013 1:07:34 PM   
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As can be seen in this screen we are already making good progress here. I´m not even sure Erik has spotted the troops moving north for Nanning! Its so nice having room to maneuver! Erik can continue to build his superstacks. All I have to do is pin them down, flank them and then destroy them. No more trench warfare like it was in Burma.






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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/26/2013 2:50:29 PM   
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They are grim indeed. But I just last turn filled out ALL the 2E squadrons to the new size of 24. I have a lot of navy 2Es restricted on the WC. I was thinking about buying them out but then thought better of it.

4E pools are are completely empty. The most numerous air frame is the B17D with 19 planes. I have at least filled out most squadrons to half their size (12 planes).




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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/26/2013 4:04:05 PM   
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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/26/2013 4:08:40 PM   
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Well, I have really no use for army Navbombers. And in a ground role they only carry 4x500LBS. I have havocs flying milkruns in the DEI though.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/26/2013 5:45:34 PM   
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Okay...this is getting embarrassing... another quiet day. I pretty much have nothing to report. Erik spotted 2 of my subs moving for the waters east of Formosa. 2 SCTFs are in the area. I have a Fletcher TF conveniently at Antimonan. They will do a 11 hexes sprint and see if I can connect with one or both of Eriks ASW TFs.

I was supposed to start some air action in China this turn but I will need more time for supply to adjust. Moving in several hundred bombers sent the bases into red.

This rut will end eventually. I hope!

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 2:24:56 AM   
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I just ordered a case. Wasn´t that expensive actually. About 90 USD for 20 bottles. I´ll leave you a report when I tried it! Its about 10 days of delivery before I can pick it up.

I´m used to bottles actually. Needless to say with a little one and another on its way I see very little of bars these days!

Excellent! Hope you enjoy it.

Also, what kind of service did you use to order it? That's not too bad of a price.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 4:10:31 AM   
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I just ordered a case. Wasn´t that expensive actually. About 90 USD for 20 bottles. I´ll leave you a report when I tried it! Its about 10 days of delivery before I can pick it up.

I´m used to bottles actually. Needless to say with a little one and another on its way I see very little of bars these days!


$2.25/bottle is "not that expensive"?! My local liquor store (granted, best in the metro DC area IMO) is typically $9-10 USD per 6-pack, or $1.50-1.67 per bottle. The more local it is, the cheaper - down to $7 at the cheapest. The most expensive is Rogue, from the west coast, at around $14 or so - or about what you're paying. Still! FWIW, it costs me about 1/3 what you pay to make my own . You should look into it. Not only is it cheap, but you get oodles of beer out of it and it's fun! And it makes your place smell like beer for an entire night. Even if all you do is make hoppy beers - those are really, really easy.



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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 5:31:27 AM   
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Hehe, in Sweden we have the second highest tax on alcohol in the world. Of those 90 USD about half is tax. We have this strange monopoly on alcohol is Sweden. Only the government is allowed to sell alcohol in closed containers. In return they are required to import anything you want (within reason of course).

So while it sound expensive I don´t think its that bad to pay 2 hours of pay to get 12 bottles of ale imported for you from the states and delivered to your closest delivery point. The Heelch wasn´t available in their stock so it was imported. A bottle of Fullers for example is 1/3rd of a Heelch. Thats about 2,3 USD for a 330ml bottle.

A couple of friends and I are actually looking for a place to brew our own beer. None of us have space available at home sadly! The problem is as usual time. We all have work and families and getting out on weekends looking at possible locations seems to be quite low on the priority scale.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 5:52:23 AM   
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So, I know some of you, perhaps all of you have been a bit frustrated with me lately... I have been a busy little bee behind the scenes of this AAR though. So place your bets gentlemen! Where are we going?





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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 7:08:55 AM   
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Yet again very little to report. But this will be the last one for a while!

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Luzon
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Bombardments at Iba continue. Another deliberate attack ordered tomorrow.

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Carrier raid!
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Allied subs are precious and few these days. As expected Erik immediately upon spotting 3 subs yesterday unleashes his ASW air backed up but 3-4 ASW TFs. I predicted this and have the CVs within strike range. Tomorrow we will jump in a hopefully blast all ASW TFs as well as shooting down a crap load of bombers on ASW!

The subs might have been too late anyway since I can no longer see any big TFs at Formosa. If they disappeared I´ll pull the subs back.

As a testament of the silly air ASW system ALL subs are spotted. Not half or a few. ALL without exception are spotted. Luckily none are hit. That will change tomorrow as Erik will move in the whole shebang. I hope the 1000 Fighters on CAP will have a field day with those precious ASW pilots!

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China
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The bombardments here are getting some fantastic results!

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Ground combat at 71,56 (near Lang Son)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 209466 troops, 4242 guns, 4165 vehicles, Assault Value = 8586

Defending force 115095 troops, 1111 guns, 577 vehicles, Assault Value = 3768

Japanese ground losses:
510 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
139 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)


Two of the Japanese IDs have really taken a beating and is down with about 100 AVs each according to the screen.

Supply has now reached both Haiphong and Hanoi. So tomorrow there will be some fireworks in the area.

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B29Bs
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The first squadrons arrived on the EC today. Its absolutely fantastic how the arrive with 70 in LowNav and if not that then in Recon. Great. Really fricking great...

I have no pilots for them basically. And since I´m extremely skeptical about the usefulness of a completely unarmed bomber in a game where the NFs can shoot down ARMED bombers at a rate of 0.5 bombers for each airborne NF I won´t draw experienced pilots from other squadrons.

I filled them out with pilots from the replacements pool and they will have to train in the B29s. I have no alternative.

Anyway. This was the last quite turn for a while. There will be a lot more action from now on starting in China and a good old fashioned carrier raid!

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 10:50:18 AM   
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I just ordered a case. Wasn´t that expensive actually. About 90 USD for 20 bottles. I´ll leave you a report when I tried it! Its about 10 days of delivery before I can pick it up.

I´m used to bottles actually. Needless to say with a little one and another on its way I see very little of bars these days!


$2.25/bottle is "not that expensive"?! My local liquor store (granted, best in the metro DC area IMO) is typically $9-10 USD per 6-pack, or $1.50-1.67 per bottle. The more local it is, the cheaper - down to $7 at the cheapest. The most expensive is Rogue, from the west coast, at around $14 or so - or about what you're paying. Still! FWIW, it costs me about 1/3 what you pay to make my own . You should look into it. Not only is it cheap, but you get oodles of beer out of it and it's fun! And it makes your place smell like beer for an entire night. Even if all you do is make hoppy beers - those are really, really easy.



Please post up if you discover that changing the base HQ affects air coordination.


Posting, not PMing, because this is a public service: what in your opinion is the best liquor store in the metro DC area?

Edited to add: I'm really enjoying this AAR - no offense intended, JocMeister!


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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 10:52:52 AM   
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Hehe, in Sweden we have the second highest tax on alcohol in the world. Of those 90 USD about half is tax. We have this strange monopoly on alcohol is Sweden. Only the government is allowed to sell alcohol in closed containers. In return they are required to import anything you want (within reason of course).

So while it sound expensive I don´t think its that bad to pay 2 hours of pay to get 12 bottles of ale imported for you from the states and delivered to your closest delivery point. The Heelch wasn´t available in their stock so it was imported. A bottle of Fullers for example is 1/3rd of a Heelch. Thats about 2,3 USD for a 330ml bottle.

A couple of friends and I are actually looking for a place to brew our own beer. None of us have space available at home sadly! The problem is as usual time. We all have work and families and getting out on weekends looking at possible locations seems to be quite low on the priority scale.



Joc, time when home brewing isn't that much. The space though kind of grows. Been a few years since I did any (though DW was murmuring that it may be a good idea). Once (if) you find a place I'd be happy to answer any questions that arise.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 11:30:43 AM   
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Posting, not PMing, because this is a public service: what in your opinion is the best liquor store in the metro DC area?

Edited to add: I'm really enjoying this AAR - no offense intended, JocMeister!



Absolutely no offense taken!

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Joc, time when home brewing isn't that much. The space though kind of grows. Been a few years since I did any (though DW was murmuring that it may be a good idea). Once (if) you find a place I'd be happy to answer any questions that arise.


Thank you! Finding a good enough location within a reasonable drive distance that doesn´t cost a fortune is harder when then you think. I live in the capital and prices here are insane. We were looking for something "garage sized" at least. But none of us want to drive an hour to get there. Hopefully we will find something eventually!

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 12:25:57 PM   
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Best Liquor Store in the Metro / DC area? Perfect Pour in Columbia MD (Colonial Gateway Shopping Center, off of 108 & 100) about 6000 SqFt of just about everything you could possibly ask for.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 2:20:38 PM   
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Hehe, in Sweden we have the second highest tax on alcohol in the world. Of those 90 USD about half is tax. We have this strange monopoly on alcohol is Sweden. Only the government is allowed to sell alcohol in closed containers. In return they are required to import anything you want (within reason of course).

So while it sound expensive I don´t think its that bad to pay 2 hours of pay to get 12 bottles of ale imported for you from the states and delivered to your closest delivery point. The Heelch wasn´t available in their stock so it was imported. A bottle of Fullers for example is 1/3rd of a Heelch. Thats about 2,3 USD for a 330ml bottle.

A couple of friends and I are actually looking for a place to brew our own beer. None of us have space available at home sadly! The problem is as usual time. We all have work and families and getting out on weekends looking at possible locations seems to be quite low on the priority scale.


Brewing doesn't actually take up that much space. You basically just need space in a closet somewhere, that doesn't get too hot or too cold (20-25' C), for 2 buckets' worth. I guess storing the beer once it's bottled (and saving your bottles for the next batch) probably takes up the most space for us. It cost me about $135US for a basic brewing kit and 2 batches of beer, then I spent another $35US on a brewing kettle (basically just a 6 gallon stock pot) and maybe another $30US on various other "nice to have" items.

I'm surprised they let you brew, with regulations that tight! In my state, the liquor tax is only an additional 9%. In the capital proper, I remember it being higher.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 2:29:51 PM   
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Best Liquor Store in the Metro / DC area? Perfect Pour in Columbia MD (Colonial Gateway Shopping Center, off of 108 & 100) about 6000 SqFt of just about everything you could possibly ask for.


That's a ways out there .

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I just ordered a case. Wasn´t that expensive actually. About 90 USD for 20 bottles. I´ll leave you a report when I tried it! Its about 10 days of delivery before I can pick it up.

I´m used to bottles actually. Needless to say with a little one and another on its way I see very little of bars these days!


$2.25/bottle is "not that expensive"?! My local liquor store (granted, best in the metro DC area IMO) is typically $9-10 USD per 6-pack, or $1.50-1.67 per bottle. The more local it is, the cheaper - down to $7 at the cheapest. The most expensive is Rogue, from the west coast, at around $14 or so - or about what you're paying. Still! FWIW, it costs me about 1/3 what you pay to make my own . You should look into it. Not only is it cheap, but you get oodles of beer out of it and it's fun! And it makes your place smell like beer for an entire night. Even if all you do is make hoppy beers - those are really, really easy.



Please post up if you discover that changing the base HQ affects air coordination.


Posting, not PMing, because this is a public service: what in your opinion is the best liquor store in the metro DC area?

Edited to add: I'm really enjoying this AAR - no offense intended, JocMeister!



Public service request granted: The Village Pump in College Park/Greenbelt. I've been in other stores in the area that have a comparable selection of craft brews, but this one has the best prices by far. I've poked about in their wine selection and it's OK (mostly low- to medium-price varieties). But I go for the beer. They have your bog standard craft brews like Magic Hat, Sam Adams (I guess it counts), Saranac, and New Belgium, plus a ton of regionals - Brooklyn, Flying Dog, Heavy Seas, DuClaw, and a lot from Vermont (Wolaver's/Otter Creek, Long Trail, Harpoon). They have a decent selection of whiskey, but if I want to get a bottle of Templeton I have to go to the Calvert Woodley in DC or get a friend to buy it from his military base (which is cheaper).

They'll also order things for you direct from the distributor, if you ask. It's a nice little family operation.



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Joc, time when home brewing isn't that much. The space though kind of grows. Been a few years since I did any (though DW was murmuring that it may be a good idea). Once (if) you find a place I'd be happy to answer any questions that arise.


Thank you! Finding a good enough location within a reasonable drive distance that doesn´t cost a fortune is harder when then you think. I live in the capital and prices here are insane. We were looking for something "garage sized" at least. But none of us want to drive an hour to get there. Hopefully we will find something eventually!


Garage-sized?! So you want a big time operation, then. Brewing up full kegs at once? With a turkey cooker and propane? That's serious business.



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So, I know some of you, perhaps all of you have been a bit frustrated with me lately... I have been a busy little bee behind the scenes of this AAR though. So place your bets gentlemen! Where are we going?






Since you didn't quiiiite crop out the hints of land around the edges, I'm going to spend a lot of time scrolling about the map before I submit my guess.


Edit - actually, looking at the TF info screen tells me all I need to know. Your Endure Needed is only 360, which means it's only 9 hexes from where they're currently sitting to their destination and then back to their home port. That really narrows it down.

You're going to Formosa? That's the only place I can think of where you would land 300,000 troops within 9 hexes of something you've already got. Your TFs are set to home port at Aparri.

If I'm wrong, it has to be Hainan instead.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 2:47:11 PM   
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Wow that is quite the hammer that is about to drop!! Looking forward to seeing where this goes *Grabs refreshing ale*

On a side note in China I'm really suprised your opponent didn't at least cover those side roads to Nanning with a throw away unit or two especially if he has thrown the towell in on doing any recon.

Good Luck!!

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 5:17:27 PM   
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Garage-sized?! So you want a big time operation, then. Brewing up full kegs at once? With a turkey cooker and propane? That's serious business.


I should have specified I meant a Swedish sized garage and not an american sized one! You know. Place for one normal sized car...

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Since you didn't quiiiite crop out the hints of land around the edges, I'm going to spend a lot of time scrolling about the map before I submit my guess.

Edit - actually, looking at the TF info screen tells me all I need to know. Your Endure Needed is only 360, which means it's only 9 hexes from where they're currently sitting to their destination and then back to their home port. That really narrows it down.

You're going to Formosa? That's the only place I can think of where you would land 300,000 troops within 9 hexes of something you've already got. Your TFs are set to home port at Aparri.

If I'm wrong, it has to be Hainan instead.


Ah, thats a pretty good guess. Well thought out! But not correct!

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 5:32:05 PM   
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Garage-sized?! So you want a big time operation, then. Brewing up full kegs at once? With a turkey cooker and propane? That's serious business.


I should have specified I meant a Swedish sized garage and not an american sized one! You know. Place for one normal sized car...

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Since you didn't quiiiite crop out the hints of land around the edges, I'm going to spend a lot of time scrolling about the map before I submit my guess.

Edit - actually, looking at the TF info screen tells me all I need to know. Your Endure Needed is only 360, which means it's only 9 hexes from where they're currently sitting to their destination and then back to their home port. That really narrows it down.

You're going to Formosa? That's the only place I can think of where you would land 300,000 troops within 9 hexes of something you've already got. Your TFs are set to home port at Aparri.

If I'm wrong, it has to be Hainan instead.


Ah, thats a pretty good guess. Well thought out! But not correct!


Sumatra then. Only other place you're close enough to a home port. 300k seems like overkill!


Even a brewing space the size of a garage for a sedan is pretty large. I used to brew in a 10x10 kitchen, and I only used the stove while storing the fermenter under the table! Next to no impact on my available space. Taking up an entire garage would be some heavy brewing.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 5:39:24 PM   
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Garage-sized?! So you want a big time operation, then. Brewing up full kegs at once? With a turkey cooker and propane? That's serious business.


I should have specified I meant a Swedish sized garage and not an american sized one! You know. Place for one normal sized car...

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Since you didn't quiiiite crop out the hints of land around the edges, I'm going to spend a lot of time scrolling about the map before I submit my guess.

Edit - actually, looking at the TF info screen tells me all I need to know. Your Endure Needed is only 360, which means it's only 9 hexes from where they're currently sitting to their destination and then back to their home port. That really narrows it down.

You're going to Formosa? That's the only place I can think of where you would land 300,000 troops within 9 hexes of something you've already got. Your TFs are set to home port at Aparri.

If I'm wrong, it has to be Hainan instead.


Ah, thats a pretty good guess. Well thought out! But not correct!


Sumatra then. Only other place you're close enough to a home port. 300k seems like overkill!


Even a brewing space the size of a garage for a sedan is pretty large. I used to brew in a 10x10 kitchen, and I only used the stove while storing the fermenter under the table! Next to no impact on my available space. Taking up an entire garage would be some heavy brewing.


Not Sumatra either...Patrol zones and follow command messes with endurance...

We are 5 dudes that want to fit in the space too. And get away from the ladies...


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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 5:56:45 PM   
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hmm, the whole drama about Ivo j and Okin was strat bombing.
If you can't strat bomb efficiently, for whatever reasons, you will have to switch to other alternatives.

As infantry is not part of the pdu enhancement (jet), jap LCUs being the Achilles heel in the game. Invade the real thing, before he could rebuilt all these divisions.

BBs and Kamis to be considered, of course.
Good luck!

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 6:28:43 PM   
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I was about to do a big write up on the coming invasion but Maria is working the evening shift and Ida is not being cooperative. I just watched the replay. Only a small skirmish. I´m going to try and get Erik the turn back and I´ll try and get an update up tomorrow.

PS. Anyone have a good solution on avoiding the entire allied strike package getting annihilated tomorrow as I suspect there will be a ton of AMcs/MTBs popping up all over the place under heavy CAP tomorrow just like I saw in the Marianas.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 6:46:01 PM   
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So, I know some of you, perhaps all of you have been a bit frustrated with me lately... I have been a busy little bee behind the scenes of this AAR though. So place your bets gentlemen! Where are we going?


My bet is Okinawa.

Close enough to Japan to use Liberators against Home islands.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/27/2013 9:13:35 PM   
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I don't know where your going. But use DDs to clear them out.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/28/2013 1:50:02 AM   
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OK, a few things:

1. I'm starting to have second thoughts on air HQ and base matching being beneficial to air coordination. I couldn't find anything in the manual last night. Too many beers may be clouding the memory. It'd be nice if Alfred could chime in on this, as he da man on these questions.
2. My parents just moved to Woodbridge, VA. Does anyone know a good beer retail outfit within a few miles of there (MD being a bit too far methinks, but possibly NW DC)? I'll be visiting there on my next trip to the States, of course.
3. I've been homebrewing since 1986. You just need enough space to hold a nice kettle, a five-gallon (what, 18.9 liters?) bucket, a glass carboy of the same size and either 48 bottles or a five-gallon Cornelius keg, plus a few other relatively small items. A closet works pretty well to hold stuff and even a tiny kitchen (by U.S. standards) in Korea is big enough to brew. Save the garage for when you guys get serious.
4. Sorry for my contribution to slightly derailing this AAR toward beer, but as richlove said, this is a public service.
5. I'll put $5 on the Amoy area being the destination for that invasion fleet.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/28/2013 2:11:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

I should have specified I meant a Swedish sized garage and not an american sized one! You know. Place for one normal sized car...



America.

The land of double and triple garages, so full of junk, the cars still are on the driveway.

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/28/2013 2:45:22 AM   
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God I hate this game sometimes. Ida is fast asleep. It 3 in the morning here. Yes. Three in the morning. And I couldn´t sleep because I was laying awake thinking about the turn. At 4 I gave up, made some coffee and have just watched the turn.

Do anyone else know of ANY game that does that?

I don´t mind the beer discussion one bit! If I´m not mistaken I´m the one that started it after all?

DING DING. We have winner. Koniou nailed it. I´m landing on Okinawa. We are now on the second day of battle and things look promising so far. Landing tomorrow. I really hope this early morning gives me a chance to catch up on the AAR. I don´t like being behind!

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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/28/2013 3:09:44 AM   
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Destination Okinawa
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Sorry for not getting this up last night. As koniu guess the target is Naha on Okinawa!

I know some of you have been thinking I´m a bit dense lately with my obsession with Formosa and reluctance to listen to any other alternatives...So I hope this explains things a bit...

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Background
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This operation actually started right after I secured the Marianas. I knew after Luzon I would either go to Formosa or Okinawa. You who have followed my AAR for some time know I like to hedge my bets. So I did again. I prepped half the forces for Okinawa and half for Formosa.

My reasoning was that if he divided equally between Formosa and Okinawa I would hopefully be able to secure them both using quality of troops. But if it looked too tough I could hopefully secure a beachhead on Formosa and then use the forces prepped for Naha on Formosa too.

Things turned out REALLY odd though. I´m extremely curious to hear Eriks reasoning on this when the game is over. As we all know by now Erik put 300.000 men on Formosa. But on Okinawa there is only 30.000 men?! So this was kind of a easy choice where to go.

Not only is Okinawa almost empty of troops but its also the perfect place for an allied landing. Erik has neglected to build up the area properly. The closest level 9 AFs are on Formosa (9 and 11 hexes) and Shanghai (11 hexes). Besides those only Naha itself is built up to any kind of size (size 7). See map for more details on airfield sizes in the area.

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Ground Forces
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Allied troops:
I´m basically landing with 10 divisions. To back that up I have the usual assortment of troops. Two of the big combat engineer RGTs but fairly light on armor. Most of the armor is prepped for Formosa and its clear terrain. But with only 30.000 troops on Okinawa what I have will quickly overwhelm the defenders.

Japanese troops:
30.000 troops, 30 Units, 500 Guns and 200 AFVs.
Only combat unit identified via SIGINT is the 15th Ind.Mixed RGT. Rest are army HQs and AA units. If that is correct there will be no more then 200-300 AV on Okinawa.
The Okinawa BF is there with its CD guns but I have BBs embedded in all troops TFs to counter this.

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Tactical situation
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Getting the troops ashore is my main problem. If I can land 50% of the troops Okinawa will be in allied hands. The problem is getting them there...

The KB + the Japanese BBs are sitting at Shanghai only 11 hexes from Okinawa. I don´t know if Erik will do the ultimate Kamikaze or not. He has been really eager to commit the KB earlier. But I´m not so sure he will do that without good LBA support which he will lack in this landing due to lack of proper AFs.

I also have a plan that might neutralize the KB and battle fleet...

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Japanese forces
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KB (700-1000 planes)
12 BBs
3 CAs and an unknown number of CLs
35 DDs
A few subs.

This is backed up by LBA flying from various bases in the area. This effort is hampered by the lack of airfields.

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Allied forces
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Allied CV Fleet (3050 planes)
8 Fast BBs in 2 SCTFs
6 slow BBs embedded with the Amphibs
4 modern CAs in a SCTF
4 old CAs in a SCTF
4 old CAs embedded with the Amphibs
12 Cleveland CLs in 3 SCTFs
150 Fletchers in various SCTFs including 4 Fletcher TFs.
70 subs (last of the sub fleet)
200.000 men distributed among 5 Amphibs TFs.

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Execution
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Obviously even the most basic plan goes out the window as soon as two forces meet in battle. I have a rough idea on what I want to do and how to do it. A lot will depend on Erik reactions and how he lines up is forces. He is in a less then optimal position here as he have neglected building up the AFs on Okinawa and Kyushu. So he will have to depend on flying from lots of smaller AFs or the level 9 AFs at Formosa (11 and 9 hexes from Oki) or Shanghai (11 hexes). This is far from an optimal situation for him. And with the number of troops on Okinawa Erik may very well have decided NOT to defend Okinawa at all.






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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/28/2013 3:21:18 AM   
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Destination Okinawa - Day One
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Everything is in position. All ships except 3 subs are unspotted. I´m pleased to say Erik paid a price here for using his patrol planes to lift troops instead of what they are supposed to do.




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RE: Manila liberated!!! - 11/28/2013 3:46:38 AM   
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Destination Okinawa - Day Two and Three
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Day Two sees the subs moving forward while the fleet continues refueling.

During the night before day Three every available B29 dropped mines at Shanghai harbor. This is the location of the entire Japanese fleet. I don´t think Erik knew that I knew that. I have intentionally not reconned it nor had patrol planes that far out. I have two SIGINT confirmations on Shanghai. One on a CV and one on a CVL. That and the 1-3 "heavy volume of radio transmissions detected" per turn for the last month was kind of a give away.

I also moved in 50 Catalinas to Apparri to get some eyes over Shanghai and the rest of the East China sea. Not too surprising the KB plus battle fleet was at Shanghai.

On Day Three the advanced ships are finally spotted only 5 hexes from Okinawa. This triggers the first Japanese counter attack.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ishigaki at 92,70

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 22

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 92
Corsair IV x 15
Seafire L.III x 5
F4U-1A Corsair x 61
F4U-1D Corsair x 436


Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 16 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ishigaki at 92,70

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 6

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 92
Corsair IV x 15
Seafire L.III x 5
F4U-1A Corsair x 61
F4U-1D Corsair x 436


Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 4 destroyed



As can be seen in the screenshot the allied fleet has become strung out and failed to move the entire distance to 4 hexes from Naha. This leads me to postpone the landing another day. I hope this will not effect the outcome of the battle. Its unfortunate but cannot be helped with some many TFs that some do not move the indicated distance.




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