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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 6:06:30 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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6 hits out of 23 sorites


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Coincidentally, I was just explaining the Sorites paradox to some folks this month. (in a work-related context). Not sure of the relevance to airstrikes, however. Unless you are saying 6 out of 23 doesn't seem like a lot, but would 7 out of 23? 8? Where is the line drawn?

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Sorites and Zeno used to play bacci-ball together. The loser had to take a shot of Ouzo. Sorites used to lose on purpose. Paradoxically, Zeno didn't figure this out for 20 years.


I would say a good result for some AK's at anchor with crappy AAA would be 44.3%. Might settle for 43.8%

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 6:17:17 PM   
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You know, a lot of people make fun of Mormons because of the "magic underwear" thingy but I like 'em.

They work hard and you can trust them. I kind of agree with Howard Hughes.

They also have a really cool genealogy site that I was goofing around with yesterday. My dads's side were real hillbillies.

His mom and dad were second cousins whose kinfolk apparently shared the same "holler" in Kentucky. Now I know why my 4th toes curve in.

Even worse, his great grandmother was Mississippi "Massa" Mandrake.



Work hard and you can trust them?? Sorry, I must be dealing with a different branch of the Church.

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 6:29:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry to hear that, Disco. Maybe they were Jack Mormons?

Now, those Cargo Cultists....I would keep my eye on them. I hired a Cargo Cult flooring contractor. I still can't find half the pots and pans and all the Spam is gone.

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 6:33:24 PM   
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Mr Hata: <hears air raid siren and looks skyward. He spots a tiny spot of silver high, high in the sky, trailing a contrail>
What-ah **** that? One airprane?




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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 6:48:51 PM   
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Medals/Awards: 1914-1915 LS&GS Medal, 1939-1945 Star and Burma Star. Long Service Medal & Good Conduct Medal - 8 December1936.

Service Details: (Abridged version): Ordnance Officer 19 March 1942, General orders sub dept. 14 August 1942; appointed Ordnance Officer no. 4 sub dept 18 August 1942; Flying Squad Officer HQ Eastern Army, 18 November 1942; Appointed O. O. HQ 151 sub area, 16 June 1943; posted to HQ sub area, 22 May 1944; posted to BRTC Ranchi, 16 September 1945; appointed D.A.D.O.S -B.R.T. 19 September 1945; voluntary deferment of release for twoyears 10 June 1945; relinquished appointment of D.A.D.O.S HQB.R.T, 26 March 1946; Appointed O.O. (admin) no. 1 3 August1946, to Lance T/ Major and W.S. Captain 19 December 1945; Rank of T/Major 3 August 1946.

Languages spoken: Urdu Colloquial - exam taken at Ferozepore Arsenal 1928.

Qualifications: Range Finding - passed with Distinction, Woolwich (South London) 1923; Gunnery Course - Passed, Larkhill, 1925; `O` (ordnance?) course - Passed, UK, 1933.

Medical Report: Completed on 16 April 1947, he was 49 years of age. He had previously served in France/Belgium during the 1st World War. He received an injury to his left elbow in 1912 (?).He served in Ireland between 1919-1922; Turkey 1922-1923, UK 1924-1926 and India from 1927.Height 5 feet 9.5 inches and weighed 176 lbs. Rank number M6003/391.The report states that he left the unit on 2 May 1947, and his address then was Filkins, Lechlade, Gloucester, England. He banked with Barclays at Burford in Oxon.

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 7:14:21 PM   
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D.A.D.O.S -B.R.T.


I think that is "DADOS BART"

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 7:23:47 PM   
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BRTC


BRTC - Basic Recruit Training Course? That would make BRT = Basic Recruit Training?

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 7:32:43 PM   
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D.A.D.O.S


Deputy Assistant Director of Ordnance Services. Officers of the staff other than those of the General Staff. had titles relecting their rank and responsibility. The senior officer in the War Office or General HQ would be a Director usually a Major General, the next one down would be a Deputy Director usually a Brigadier General, then an Assistant Director a Colonel and a Deputy Assistant a Major. The ordnace staff officer at a divisional HQ would be a DADOS. Others at the Div HQ were a DADVS (vetenary services) and an ADMS (Medical Services). Oficers of the Quatermaster General's staff, and the Adjudant General had somewhat similar titles. Deputy, Assistant and Deputy Assistant. As abreviated AQMG or AAG etc etc. The General Staff from the bottom up were 'Grade 3,2 and 1 (Capt, Maj and Lt Col) under the Colonel GS and BGS (Brigadier General Staff) etc.


DADOS. Deputy Assistant Director of Ordnance Services.
Graded a Major. Responsible for weapons, equipment and maintenance.


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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 7:33:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		BRTC Ranchi is the Bihar State Road Transport Corporation. Isn't Ranchi on the map?

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 7:39:14 PM   
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BRTC Ranchi is the Bihar State Road Transport Corporation. Isn't Ranchi on the map?


Yes, 5 hexes "north" of Calcutta

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 7:45:59 PM   
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Royal Tank Corps?

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 7:58:03 PM   
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http://www.unithistories.com/officers/IndianArmy_officers_P01.html






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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 8:00:23 PM   
sprior


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Status: offline 		The rank of Conductor is that of senior NCO in the Royal Army Ordnance Corps. Looks like he got a commission when things were going pear shaped out there.

His son (my dad) went onto achieve the same rank but was never commissioned.

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/29/2013 8:24:54 PM   
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Sorry to hear that, Disco. Maybe they were Jack Mormons?

Now, those Cargo Cultists....I would keep my eye on them. I hired a Cargo Cult flooring contractor. I still can't find half the pots and pans and all the Spam is gone.


Ok, I had to look up Jack Mormon (and Jack Mason).

No, the ones I deal with are full fledged Mormons.

It is interesting how the word Jack turns into sympathizer.


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RE: Get talking. - 12/30/2013 2:12:21 AM   
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This prace gordmine of food information.

Anyone have good recipe for fish head soup?


1. Collect fish heads
2. Put in pan/helmet/empty skull with water as warm as you can get it
3. Enjoy.


"Empty" skull? Where do you expect to get that nice iodine-like accent on your fish head soup without the brains? Noob.

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RE: Get talking. - 12/30/2013 7:19:14 AM   
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RE: Get talking. - 12/30/2013 12:06:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah! So! Make ah sure it from Arried fan boy! Skull only harf furr then! Hai! Domo!

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/30/2013 12:27:29 PM   
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They work hard and you can trust them. I kind of agree with Howard Hughes.


Of course, HH (according to his biographer) was done in by his Mormon aides and doctors flying back to Houston, which was overlooked by the police*, with them confusing milligrams/ml with micrograms/ml on a toxicology blood sample... hey, 1000x therapeutic level is OK, right?

*of course, maybe it was a transcription error by a tech and the police actually did check on it...

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RE: Get talking. - 12/30/2013 12:28:37 PM   
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Ah! So! Make ah sure it from Japan-mens fan boy! Skull only harf furr then! Hai! Domo!


Corrected that for you.

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RE: Get talking. - 12/30/2013 1:04:20 PM   
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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/30/2013 3:52:33 PM   
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They work hard and you can trust them. I kind of agree with Howard Hughes.


Of course, HH (according to his biographer) was done in by his Mormon aides and doctors flying back to Houston, which was overlooked by the police*, with them confusing milligrams/ml with micrograms/ml on a toxicology blood sample... hey, 1000x therapeutic level is OK, right?


Well, maybe the magic underwear cuts off blood supply to the metric conversion center?

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/30/2013 4:09:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		--32nd ID and 1st Marine have nearly reached Batan Is, so the galloping horde will push off toward Miyako and try to rendezvous at sea instead of ******* around at Batan Is. It won't work, of course...something always goes wrong...usually somebody stops to watch bioluminescent squid or there is some problem with union work rules, something like that.

--There are WJD subs arr ovah prace. We have 6 or 7 ASW groups plying the waters around Batan Is and Miyako and a couple of squadrons of medium bombers on ASW duty.

--Yorktown will arrive a hex or two behind the transports and pick up some CLAA's and DD's.

--Naha is now down to ZERO runway damage. WJD bulldozer guys are on Adderall for sure. All the heavies at Aparri and Batan Is. and the mediums at Miyako are ordered to attack.

--There seems to be a transport convoy still at Amami Oshima. The 3 DD's at Miyako are ordered to attack with LRCAP cover from the F6F's

--Some staff idiot let the supply dwindle at Miyako so we don't have ze drop tanks. LCT's unloading now.

--I ran out of chocolate covered almonds so I am switiching to the mint chocolates. Mint is supposed to be good for you too. I figure every 3 mints is euqivalent to one vegetable serving.

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/30/2013 4:34:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		--That silver thing up in the sky over Nagasaki...that was a B-25 (recon version). First recon mission over mainland Japan. I think the LYB's shot her down too, because there is one missing. Same unit gets to recon another Kyushu base today.

Nagasaki has 40 Fighters and 68 bombers I wonder how many are Bettys? Could get ugly over the landing beaches. I suppose some are restricted units or trainees.

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/30/2013 4:39:54 PM   
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--32nd ID and 1st Marine have nearly reached Batan Is, so the galloping horde will push off toward Miyako and try to rendezvous at sea instead of ******* around at Batan Is. It won't work, of course...something always goes wrong...usually somebody stops to watch bioluminescent squid or there is some problem with union work rules, something like that.
Pre-emptive blaming of the staff is in order. With all of the Christmas greetings being sent some will forget it is June of 1943 in the PTO.


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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/30/2013 6:31:01 PM   
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Not sure why the Bihar State Road Transport Corporation would need an Ordnance Officer.

Royal Tank Corps?


It's nothing to do with transport - you subconsciously pre-empted Sprior's geneology post with the Mormon story -

BRT= Build a Relationship of Trust (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints missionary training).

There's some weird paranormal activity going on in here - or is this AAR just weird

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/30/2013 9:48:20 PM   
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So what about all these airpranes at Nagasaki? Would this be par for the course in mid 43 Japan (Scenario 2)?

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/31/2013 2:59:17 AM   
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So what about all these airpranes at Nagasaki? Would this be par for the course in mid 43 Japan (Scenario 2)?


That should be just a small sampling of the stuff he has on the home islands. Then again, this game is being run so very strangely by the IJ, that who knows what he's doing with his troops and / or aircraft?

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/31/2013 3:06:19 AM   
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So what about all these airpranes at Nagasaki? Would this be par for the course in mid 43 Japan (Scenario 2)?


That should be just a small sampling of the stuff he has on the home islands. Then again, this game is being run so very strangely by the IJ, that who knows what he's doing with his troops and / or aircraft?

Just wait until IJ hits Seattle in a reverse Doolittle raid.

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/31/2013 1:56:45 PM   
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Formosa and the Ryukyus: I'm surprised they let us get away with this again. Perhaps Japan-mens not see three DD's at Miyako. This is the same taffy hit by air yesterday.
Night battle in the rain and we can't stay forever. We catch them at anchor. It Anami Turkey Shoot Part Deux. Rook rike Japan-mens ahready ashore.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Amami Oshima at 98,64, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Kozan Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Magan Maru, Shell hits 6
PB Nishho Maru
AV Kamoi
AV Kamikawa Maru
AV Kiyokawa Maru, Shell hits 22, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Meisan Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Koki Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Ryuzan Maru
xAK Tosei Maru
xAK Tensyo Maru
xAK Heiei Maru
xAK Nitiryu Maru, Shell hits 6, on fire
xAK Toei Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Yuri Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Shinrei Maru
xAK Fukoku Maru
xAKL Tientsin Maru
xAKL Shinshui Maru, on fire
xAKL Bunzan Maru
E Uruyame, Shell hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Grayson
DD Endicott
DD Conyngham



RNN and USN subs pick off two AK's running away.

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!" - 12/31/2013 2:07:30 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		B-25 squadron commander at Batan Is trying to get some medals. This was completely unnecessary as Taihoku is shut down.

Morning Air attack on Taihoku , at 87,63

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged

Runway hits 2

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