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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/17/2014 6:34:50 AM

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28th-29th April -45
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Things fall in place nicely in China

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Okinawa
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While trying out movement issues with the CV fleet I accidently stumbled too close to Shanghai. After refusing to fly against the numerous "E" TFs the AI decides that a couple of PBs are a worthy target...

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shanghai at 92,55

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 62 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 11
J2M3 Jack x 8
J2M5 Jack x 26
N1K2-J George x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 1
Ki-102b Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 142
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 26
TBM-3 Avenger x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 14 destroyed
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBM-3 Avenger: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PB Rikusen Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
PB Hinode Maru #17, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SC CHa-44
SC CHa-32, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SC CHa-17, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Luckily Erik only have a small CAP in place and I lose only 40 planes. But loads of Hellcats are damaged. Again only the big groups on the CVs take part in the strike. Do the AI favor the groups on the CVs when "picking" squadrons for some reason? Size?

I also sent in some Corsairs to see if we can catch some more "leaky CAP". I only find a couple of Oscars and shoot down all 8 of them.

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China
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In China things are going well. It looks like Erik has finally decided to do something with the 200.000 men at Canton/HK. I see movement from both bases. Its too late though and I doubt he can force his way up to Kukong. The 2000 "armored AV" of the CMA in defensive terrain will be too big of a obstacle.

We also liberate Kanshien!

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Ground combat at Kanhsien (81,57)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13012 troops, 49 guns, 1517 vehicles, Assault Value = 1063

Defending force 12319 troops, 84 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 415

Allied adjusted assault: 758

Japanese adjusted defense: 137

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Kanhsien !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5498 casualties reported
Squads: 264 destroyed, 144 disabled
Non Combat: 135 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 21 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 64 (42 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 22 (2 destroyed, 20 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
11th PAVO Regiment
Gardner's Horse Regiment
3rd Cavalry Regiment
Guides Cavalry Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
255th Indian Tank Brigade
18th Cavalry Regiment
Provisionl Tank Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
44th Parachute Division

Defending units:
69th Infantry Brigade
67th Ind.Infantry Battalion
3rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
14th RGC Temp./A Division

This I think is the final nail in the coffin and Eriks position is now hopeless. His only hope is if he can hold on to Kukong but that is not going to happen. With Kanshien secure the 5th Chinese Corp will be flown in (1000AV 62 EXP). I also have two Chindit BDEs waiting to be flown in. They will take over security in the area and be ready to block the HK/Canton forces if needed. There is a Wooden/rough hex where they should be able to hold. See map for position.

Erik also evacuated Nanning. I�m not sure his troops will be able to reach Liuchow in time to bolster the defense. My 3 IDs cross tomorrow. I�m going to set some 2Es on the Nanning troops to slow them down.

Very happy with the situation in China right now. Lets see if Erik tries to do something with the 200.000 men at Canton/HK.

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DEI
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We continue to pummel Palembang. Forts are now down to 1 and the base should fall shortly.

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13509 troops, 132 guns, 447 vehicles, Assault Value = 614

Defending force 4013 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Allied adjusted assault: 227

Japanese adjusted defense: 85

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
353 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 62 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/17/2014 11:37:28 AM

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Victory Points
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Sadly I lost the older data in the disc crash just before Christmas but these are the last 22 turns. I need about 15.000 more VPs for my goal of AV (2:1 ratio).

My ratio per turn have dropped as expected and is now down to around 135 VP/turn. But I�m still roughly on track for an Aug/Sep AV. Losses can of course change this drastically. The KB and BB fleet is probably worth around 5000-7000 VPs. Shanghai/HK is another 4500 VPs. Many of the Japanese held bases in China have a 10x Japanese multiplier and that is going to add up. They are actually worth twice as much for me as 100 LOST Japanese VPs means 200 VPs I don�t need to gain.

Here is a screen from tracker. The days I�m in red is probably due to some Japanese bases getting in supply. As can be seen I just passed 1,7 ratio.

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/17/2014 12:53:54 PM

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And there are never, ever enough PPs, are there?

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/17/2014 1:18:30 PM

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Never are. I splurged almost 2000 buying out every USMC/USN 2E/4E squadron in the states. And changed some sub captains! *Poff*

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/17/2014 8:05:35 PM

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30th April -45
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Weird but good turn.

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Okinawa
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Erik sends in a 3(?) DD TF to Amami Oshima. They duke it out with the PTs for no losses to either side. KB disappears while my CV fleet shifts slightly to the North after having replenished planes.

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China
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A good day. The river crossing goes well and we suffer lighter losses then expected.

quote:

Ground combat at Liuchow (74,55)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 40761 troops, 583 guns, 162 vehicles, Assault Value = 1599

Defending force 12867 troops, 191 guns, 51 vehicles, Assault Value = 330

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 671

Japanese adjusted defense: 108

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Liuchow !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
5722 casualties reported
Squads: 133 destroyed, 65 disabled
Non Combat: 178 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 40 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 74 (52 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Vehicles lost 36 (36 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 10

Allied ground losses:
1035 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 134 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 21 (3 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
11th (East African) Division
81st (West African) Division
6th New Chinese Corps

Defending units:
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
6th Ind.Infantry Brigade
35th Ind.Mixed Brigade
19th JNAF AF Unit
5th NCPC Infantry Brigade
21st Air Defense AA Battalion
14th Naval Construction Battalion
7th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
53rd Field AA Battalion
17th Army /1

I�ll let the troops recover the DIS before sending them on. They will give chase towards Kweilin.

What looks like a single ID has left HK and is now exposed in a clear hex between Canton and HK. The 4Es will pay a visit tomorrow. The transports managed to lift 600 AV to in the first day to Kanhsien so I released the armor. They will head north hopefully catching up on the evicted defenders.

China is much more fun when you have air superiority, unlimited supply and ridiculously better LCUs.

I think Erik will have a bit more sympathy the next time he rolls over the Chinese in 42.

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DEI
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Finally secured Palembang.

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13523 troops, 132 guns, 447 vehicles, Assault Value = 615

Defending force 3764 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Allied adjusted assault: 257

Japanese adjusted defense: 70

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Palembang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1302 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 166 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Troops continue North right away and BFs rail into PB.

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Strat bombing
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Now for the weird part. The bombing results are mediocre at best (as usual) and I manage to knock out only 42 points of LI using 600 bombers. Whats weird is the losses. I lose only 4 B24s and 7 B29s for 28 NFs. I guess I have to be happy with that!?

My B24 have still to hit a single point of industry but the do shoot down NFs. I�ll take that too. Erik can�t have an unlimited number of them. Or can he?

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/17/2014 8:29:41 PM

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Any efforts to get the supply line to Chungking open and get all those Chinese LCUs back into the war??

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/17/2014 8:59:39 PM

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Any oil damage at PBang?

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/17/2014 9:07:45 PM

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Re your problem with CVE & CVL refusing to fly.

I also found it hard to get them to help in a high in an environment where the japanese contested in the air. I felt that they struggled to get the morale levels high enough, loss of a single aircraft was an 11% hit, replaced by a less experienced pilot.

So I dropped the TBF's and resized F4U squadrons and made them CAP ships, plus the F4U was quite capable in shipping/ground attacks. I also would allocate 1 CVL per Fleet(hex) as night CAP just in case night torpedo attacks decided to work.

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/18/2014 7:26:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Any efforts to get the supply line to Chungking open and get all those Chinese LCUs back into the war??

For now I have left that to the Chinese to sort out themselves. With the (ridiculously) easy way supply flows I now have 12.000 AV in full supply going for Kweiyang. That should be enough although some Corps are pretty low EXP (45 EXP). But the 4Es can help out and if needed I have 2 Indian IDs in reserve ready to swing North.

In all honesty I don�t really need the Chinese at this point and I don�t want to divert too much attention on something I don�t need. But if Erik hangs around in the North it might prove a very nice opportunity to destroy more Japanese IDs. I know he has at least 2 IDs up there. One was wrecked moving from Liuchow though.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
Any oil damage at PBang?

Yeah, but not too bad. 727 oil is still operational. The bottleneck for me now is refineries. I have about 300 more oil then I have refineries in the DEI. Didn�t help that the refineries was knocked down to 662 at PB. But I guess PB in allied hands means I can stop sending fuel from the WC all together.

For example I have 200.000 oil at Balikpapan and another 70.000 oil in Soerabaja.

I have 1,5 million fuel at Manila. Another million moving towards Luzon and about 500k onboard Fleet oilers maintaining the fleet. I�ll probably keep 3 of the bigger tankers TFs running WC-Luzon just to make sure but the rest will start hauling locally.

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ORIGINAL: JeffK

Re your problem with CVE & CVL refusing to fly.

I also found it hard to get them to help in a high in an environment where the japanese contested in the air. I felt that they struggled to get the morale levels high enough, loss of a single aircraft was an 11% hit, replaced by a less experienced pilot.

So I dropped the TBF's and resized F4U squadrons and made them CAP ships, plus the F4U was quite capable in shipping/ground attacks. I also would allocate 1 CVL per Fleet(hex) as night CAP just in case night torpedo attacks decided to work.

I havn�t checked the MRL on the CVE squadrons. I�ll do it as soon as the turn gets here. They are flying search and take some losses from CAP. So that could explain it. Thanks!

I�m not too keen on moving strike planes off the CVEs since I�m already very "CAP heavy" with the CV resizing done I now only have 15DBs and 15TBs aboard each CVs. So I wanted some extra punch by equipping some 20 CVEs with TB/DBs. But if they don�t fly I might as well unload them. But losing 500 strike planes would suck so I hope I can get it sorted.

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/18/2014 10:08:53 AM

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Month of May 1945
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No turn from Erik so I thought I�ll do a bit of an overview. Aircraft wise May is a very good month. Most notably I�ll get the Spitfire F.XIV. Its a seriously good plane. Looking at the stats its probably one of the best planes in the game. Its definitely the best defensive fighter. The only drawback is that its British and the Brits are still hamstrung by their useless 16 plane squadrons. But I have one 32 plane squadron currently flying the Corsair II. As soon as I have enough Spits I�m going to switch it over and use it as a sweeper. Fun!

I also get a complete GEM in the A-26B invader. First look shows its a 2E able to drop 8x500LBS bombs which is almost as much as a B24 which is nice. But then you start to look closer and this plane turns out to be probably the best bomber in the game...and I get 55(!) of them per month!!!

There are two things that make this plane absolutely superb besides the bomb load. Speed is a whopping 355MPH which is 77MPH faster then the B24 and almost as fast as the B29B.

And then there is the gun value...

It has 16(!)50 Cals and a gun value of 48. Thats 18 more then the B24.

Erik is going to hate this plane with a passion. I don�t think I have to tell you what this plane is going to do for the rest of the game...

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/18/2014 10:18:27 AM

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DEI
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Still no opposition anywhere. I�ll probably have time to secure everything in mainland Sumatra before the game is up. One more landing planned on Borneo. Erik has bunched up about 100.000 troops at Singapore. I still havn�t taken out the HI there. I�ll do it when I find the time.

I doubt I�ll bother with Singers. Forts are probably 9 by now and I doubt its worth the effort although the VPs would be nice..

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/18/2014 10:40:40 AM

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Need to show this AAR to Larry Joc

Looking good!

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/18/2014 5:23:53 PM

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1st of May -45
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Not too much going on.

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Okinawa
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I send in 4 Brit DDs to Shanghai to clear the ASW TF there.

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Shanghai at 92,55, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Tenzan Maru, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
SC CHa-60, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
SC CHa-75, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Wager
DD Wakeful
DD Wessex
DD Whelp

KB is still out of sight. I don�t know if Erik has pulled it back or its just my search acting up. I see two TFs there but they list only DDs and AKs. I put another CAT squadron on the search.

We also cleared out some ships disbanded on Formosa. No opposition.

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Morning Air attack on Taihoku , at 87,63

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 80

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Kozui Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AG Noshima, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk
ACM Tsukikawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
ACM Tsuneshima Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
TK Moji Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
ACM Higashiyama Maru, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk

I moved some SCTFs forward to be ready for the first strike at all the shipping outside Kyushu. Going to wait until the moon is lower though.

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China
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Ah, Erik finally decided to move out a big chuck of troops from the HK/Canton fortress. Its too late though. The 4Es will hit tomorrow slowing the stack down and I can get 2 IDs into a blocking position before Erik can get there and he can�t dislodge that in x3 terrain.

Here is a screen.

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/18/2014 5:43:51 PM

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Since you have the spare time now

, how about you start to prep your Soviet troops for future targets. That way they will be 100% prepped when you unleash them. I would go through the Soviets to ensure things are ready.

When do they activate??

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/18/2014 6:18:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Since you have the spare time now , how about you start to prep your Soviet troops for future targets. That way they will be 100% prepped when you unleash them. I would go through the Soviets to ensure things are ready.

When do they activate??

You know what. I have no idea!

Had to look it up. 1st of August!

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/18/2014 6:51:06 PM

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2nd of May -45
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Meh.

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Okinawa
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Nothing to report. Still no sign of KB. Might have withdrawn into the sea of Japan.

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China
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Here is the "Meh" part. The 4Es rained in or something. No bombers took off. The fighters did though and found a surprise!

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Afternoon Air attack on North China Area Army, at 78,59 , near Canton

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 55

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed

There are more sweeps following that including 2x P51 sweeps. Eriks pilots must be really good because we barely get a 1:1 today and some of the pilots in my squadrons are stellar. Luckily I only lose a double ace. The British will have a go tomorrow. I doubt we will find any Ki83 tomorrow though. With the high SR most will be grounded but he could have other planes on CAP. The 4Es better fly tomorrow...

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/19/2014 8:42:45 AM

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3nd of May -45
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Interesting intel from China...

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Okinawa
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I was lazy and sent an AVD from Luzon without LRCAP. It was hit by Jakes and later sank. Bad weather is making Naval search problematic. Still no fix on the KB and I lost track on one of the BB TFs. As a precaution I increased search directly the the East of Okinawa and positioned some subs there. I can�t rule out Erik has sailed around Japan and will try to strike at me from the SE.

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China
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The bombers finally took off. No CAP but Flak was BRUTAL!

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Morning Air attack on 27th Division, at 78,59 , near Canton

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10
B-24J Liberator x 78
B-25D1 Mitchell x 20
B-25G Mitchell x 3
B-25H Mitchell x 18
B-25J1 Mitchell x 39
B-25J11 Mitchell x 61
P-38L Lightning x 13
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 16
PBJ-1H Mitchell x 10
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 7 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 29 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25D1 Mitchell: 4 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25G Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25J1 Mitchell: 14 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 8 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 6 damaged
PBJ-1H Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
834 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 96 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 33 (1 destroyed, 32 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Also attacking 68th Division ...
Also attacking 110th Division ...
Also attacking 36th Division ...
Also attacking 69th Division ...
Also attacking 132nd Division ...
Also attacking 130th Division ...
Also attacking 92nd Infantry Brigade ...
Also attacking 61st Infantry Brigade ...
Also attacking 27th Division ...

That is bloody 7 divisions.

Probably 2500-3000 AV and judging by the flak they have supply as well. This makes me nervous. I hadn�t imagined Erik had so much in Canton/HK...I�m not entirely confident but I should be able to hold at the x3 terrain. I will have the two motorized IDs + a 900 AV 60 EXP Chinese Corps. I should be able to bomb for 2 more days. While the stack will leave the clear hex next turn the flak should burn supplies.

My main army is too far away to help out but if I can pin Erik down I would be in a position to defeat his stack. I�m starting to regret sending the armor North...to late to dwell on now though. If I find the time today I�ll try and dig up some info on the Japanese IDs. With some luck some of them are newly arrived crap...fingers crossed!

I lose some 30 bombers to flak and OPS. Ouch.

At Tsyung the 3 Indian IDs take a a beating against the forts. This will be slow going I fear.

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Ground combat at Tsuyung (68,46)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 45307 troops, 873 guns, 539 vehicles, Assault Value = 1205

Defending force 22096 troops, 311 guns, 87 vehicles, Assault Value = 467

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 607

Japanese adjusted defense: 3013

Allied assault odds: 1 to 4 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
888 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1953 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 160 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 42 disabled
Guns lost 41 (1 destroyed, 40 disabled)

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DEI
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Kuala Lumpur is liberated.

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Ground combat at Kuala Lumpur (49,79)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13092 troops, 252 guns, 141 vehicles, Assault Value = 467

Defending force 1414 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 73

Allied adjusted assault: 433

Japanese adjusted defense: 39

Allied assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Kuala Lumpur !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
645 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
20th Indian Division
X' Force
XXXIII Indian Corps

Defending units:
3rd INA Azad Regiment

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/19/2014 12:40:59 PM

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AA Ranges - You will get hit by medium and heavy flak when you go in below 10k. The ceiling for medium flak is around 9k (I thing some is 9600), so for your bombers set them at 10k unless you know there isn't any large flak units there.

Kweiyang - If you get lucky here, I would think about getting that supply line open to the Chinese. If you are able to get enough supplies shipped into Vietnam to feed that massive army in China, just let them head east to cause Erik headaches. Just their shear numbers can cause chaos.

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/19/2014 1:05:49 PM

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AA Ranges - You will get hit by medium and heavy flak when you go in below 10k. The ceiling for medium flak is around 9k (I thing some is 9600), so for your bombers set them at 10k unless you know there isn't any large flak units there.

Kweiyang - If you get lucky here, I would think about getting that supply line open to the Chinese. If you are able to get enough supplies shipped into Vietnam to feed that massive army in China, just let them head east to cause Erik headaches. Just their shear numbers can cause chaos.

Yeah, I just upped them to 10k after losing 20 more bombers! Love how AA actually work in the BETA.

I�ll try to get the Chinese moving. I chickened out from the attack so I still don�t really know what between them and freedom. As soon as this business around Kukong is finished I�ll send the bombers to have a peak!

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/19/2014 2:08:15 PM

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4th of May -45
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More odd happenings in China

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Okinawa
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The Bon Homme Richard arrives at Naha together with BB California, CB Guam, CA Quincy and 4 British CVEs. CV Illustrious, CVL Cabot and 6 more CVEs will arrive in 6 or 7 days. This will trigger a major reorganization of the Allied CV forces. My Fast CVs already is already set up around 3 TFs with 600 planes in each. I�m probably going to create a 4th Fast TF and another CVE TF. That will make it 4 CVE TFs with 400 planes each.

Looks like Erik has shifted his TFs a bit north. Not sure as Nav Search is really sketchy in the area due to weather and the fact that my search planes has to avoid 1500 fighters on CAP in the area. Loosing 2-4 CAT per turn right now. Ouch!

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China
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I did not see this one coming...Erik pulled out from Kukong heading straight East. I went back and double checked and I never saw a movement indicator. I guess he knows he cannot hold Kukong against the main army and is likely looking for better terrain to defend in.

This move left me with little choice but to abandon Kanhsien turning that whole endeavor into a complete fiasco. Basically I trashed a Para Division for nothing. I have only the trashed Para ID and a Chindit BDE there and they won�t stand a chance against the 2000 AV that left Kukong. I also cancelled the armor moving up behind the prior evicted defenders of Kanhsien. Confusing enough?

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I am pretty glad about being given Kukong though. And Eriks main stack is in dire peril. But if he can punch through my roadblock I�ll be in big trouble and likely lose 3 IDs + 1 Chinese Corp in the process...Good news is though that the Chinese Corps will reach the roadblock in time tomorrow. That will bring the AV up to 1600. I know from Experience that x3 terrain is a killer. So fingers crossed I can hold until the main army can get there. I�ll reach Kukong in 3 days. Another 2 days to the roadblock...tense times! Fun though!

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Strat bombing
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Another go at the HI. B24 have still to make a single hit of any kind. B29Bs hit CAP and severe storms and hit nothing. On the plus side the storms sheltered the B29s and only 2 were lost. "1s" and "25s" rain in.

I lose 6 B24s and 2 B29Bs for 13 NFs.

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/19/2014 2:39:38 PM

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What's recon show still is left at Canton and Hong Kong?? Getting that Repair Shipyard might help you out.

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/19/2014 2:50:31 PM

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What's recon show still is left at Canton and Hong Kong?? Getting that Repair Shipyard might help you out.

Its pretty empty so I�m going to grab it once things calm down around Kukong. Unless Erik retreats back that is. He might try to "open" the hex side from behind and slip through the roadblock though...

Many maybes and confusion right now.

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/19/2014 5:32:57 PM

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Get your toasting boozerine ready for VE Day!

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/20/2014 4:06:20 AM

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5th-6th of May -45
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Not the best of days...

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Okinawa
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I lose another AVD when LRCAP from Naha fail to show up. Nothing else to report.

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China
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Eriks intention are now clear. He will bypass my roadblock by opening the hexside from behind using the troops evacuated from Kukong. I can�t stop that but I hope to get one or two attacks in by my main army on the stack fleeing Canton. Its a race against time.

Speaking of the troops from Kukong Erik made a nice move...He bombed my troops fleing Kahnsien knocking them out of move mode. This made them unable to flee the hex in time.

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Ground combat at Kanhsien (81,57)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 79463 troops, 772 guns, 273 vehicles, Assault Value = 2800

Defending force 7276 troops, 122 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 195

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 3299

Allied adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 659 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kanhsien !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1621 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 13 (2 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
5353 casualties reported
Squads: 450 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 194 destroyed, 153 disabled
Engineers: 40 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 152 (152 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Biggest allied defeat since Bataan fell! Ouch!

I�m going to shift my bombing efforts to the Kukong troops. I need to slow them down. I should get one hit in clear terrain. My main stack is 3 days from the roadblock. In move mode Erik will need 4 days so I need to slow him down.

Hats off to Erik. He has played this one very well.

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Strat bombing
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Another interesting night on the 5th. 300 B29s take off and again not a single hit as NFs are plentiful even over low priority targets. I fear another B29 slaughter but am pretty amazed when I open the turn and see only 5 B29s are lost to 30 NFs.

I think what is happening is that Erik having realized he can�t cover everything has set his NFs to CAP with a range of 3-4 perhaps. This is enough to throw my bombers off aim but the fatigue is taking its toll on his NFs. Its working though. IF he can keep up with losses. I�ve ordered an all out recon effort to try and figure out just how many NFs per month he is making.

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DEI
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Jakes hit a TF without LRCAP that strayed too close to Singers. I lost 4 LCTs.

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/21/2014 7:44:39 AM

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7th of May -45
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I forgot to copy the text before posting and of course it F****d up.

Very short recap...

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Okinawa
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Ambushed transports flying Nagasaki-Formosa shooting down 50 of them. OPS losses and troop movement on Formosa gave them away. Nice feeling. I hate how easy it is to lift stuff.

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China
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Main army reached Kukong. Got some good hits in on the smaller stack. Big stack still has good supply and I lose 10 2Es. Got to keep it up to burn supply and slow movement.

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Next invasion
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Slowly getting there. Loads of stuff to move around. 3000 planes and 500.000 men is just cumbersome to do stuff with. ETA probably mid June.

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/21/2014 11:10:18 AM

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Allied Navy
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I put down my TFs in a document to keep track of them. I have to at this point or I would forget half of it. I put down what ships are in what TF and what I named it (I chose an easy naming scheme). Also TF number, where it is and where I intend to send it. This is absolutely essential or things would get lost. I made it into early 45 before I had to start putting things down "externally". Its just impossible otherwise.

Now that most of it is gathering for the next battle I thought I share it with you. I might shift some ships around but this is pretty much how it will stay for the next battle.

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Carrier Forces
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Fast CV 1
CV Essex, CV Intrepid, CV Hancock, CV Bennington, CV Indomitable, CVL Belleau Wood, CVL Princton, CVL Monterey
606 Planes

Fast CV 2
CV Bunker Hill, CV Franklin, CV Valhalla, CV Viking, CV Indefatigable, CV Independence, CV Victorious, CVL Langley, CVL Cowpens
598 Planes

Fast CV3
CV Randolph, CV Ticonderoga, CV Shangri-La, CV Midgaard, CV Yggdrasil, CV Illustrious, CVL Baatan, CVL San Jacinto
608 Planes

CVE TF 1
17 CVEs
486 Planes

CVE TF 2
18 CVEs
478 Planes

CVE TF 3
18 CVEs
476 Planes

CVE ASW
6 CVEs
112 Planes

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Battle Fleet
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Fast BB 1
Iowa, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Missouri

Fast BB 2
South Dakota, Indiana, Massachusetts, Alabama

Slow BB 1
Maryland, Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, Idaho, Califonia

Slow BB 2
King George V, Valiant, Queen Elizabeth, Renown

Slow BB 3
Arkansas, New York, Texas

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Cruiser TFs
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CA 1
Astoria, Minneapolis, San Francisco, Vincennes

CA 2
Canberra II, Tuscaloosa, Boston, Pittsburgh, Quincy II

CA 3
Dorsetshire, London, Suffolk, Chester, Chicago

CA 4
Cumberland, Cornwall

CL 1
St. Louis, Phoenix, Nashville, Honolulu

CL 2
Montpelier, Birmingham, Mobile, Miami

CL3
Pasadena, Wilkes-Barre, Vicksburg, Heimdal

CL 4
Biloxi, Columbia, Valkyria, Mjollner

CL 5
Gambia, Leander, Richmond, Helena

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Destroyer TFs
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5x 12 Ship Fletcher/Sumner TFs,
1x British DD TF
1x Mixed DD TF

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En route Luzon
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British
CV Implacable (81 Capacity needs plane upgrades!), 5 CVEs, BB Nelson, BB Howe, CL, Caradoc, CL Emarald, CL Kenya, CL Bermuda, 18 DDs + 2 CLAAs

USN
CL Duluth, CL Topeka, CL Oklahoma City CL Atlanta II. 13 DDs (varied types)

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/21/2014 11:28:07 AM

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Here is a screen of the IJN losses. Don�t have the energy to try and make a list of whats still floating. But all the BBs (I don�t think the Nagato sunk) are intact and I would assume the KB is around 800-900 planes still.

91 DD are sunk as well.

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RE: Battle for Okinawa! - 1/21/2014 11:50:33 AM

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Allied Navy

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Carrier Forces
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Fast CV 1
CV Essex, CV Intrepid, CV Hancock, CV Bennington, CV Indomitable, CVL Belleau Wood, CVL Princton, CVL Monterey
606 Planes

Fast CV 2
CV Bunker Hill, CV Franklin, CV Valhalla, CV Viking, CV Indefatigable, CV Independence, CV Victorious, CVL Langley, CVL Cowpens
598 Planes

Fast CV3
CV Randolph, CV Ticonderoga, CV Shangri-La, CV Midgaard, CV Yggdrasil, CV Illustrious, CVL Baatan, CVL San Jacinto
608 Planes