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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 7:31:19 AM

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Here is one of the groups I had to withdraw. Not happy about it.

Yeah, especially since the reasons for the withdrawals don't likely correlate in your game. IRL, they were short of both pilots and planes. The withdrawals were mostly just recognizing they couldn't field the group, or they were amalgamating them into kami units.

In your case you have both pilots and air frames ... so neither reason really fits. A game mechanic ... I kinda wish that along with the PDU button, there was another one for IJ air group withdrawal. Allied withdrawals are completely different. That was part of their training program. Most come back with both better planes AND pilots. IJ groups late war just disappear ... right when you are needing 49 plane fighter groups ...

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 10:07:13 AM

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Here is one of the groups I had to withdraw. Not happy about it.

Yeah, especially since the reasons for the withdrawals don't likely correlate in your game. IRL, they were short of both pilots and planes. The withdrawals were mostly just recognizing they couldn't field the group, or they were amalgamating them into kami units.

In your case you have both pilots and air frames ... so neither reason really fits. A game mechanic ... I kinda wish that along with the PDU button, there was another one for IJ air group withdrawal. Allied withdrawals are completely different. That was part of their training program. Most come back with both better planes AND pilots. IJ groups late war just disappear ... right when you are needing 49 plane fighter groups ...

I get it, and I know an Allied payer would say that getting a harder fight than the Allies got late in the war should mean they get more planes and groups too.

It really just means that a lot of the training groups will have to be used in defense. I'm still okay on pilots for now, and I will only train fighter pilots in a few groups from here on out. I'll overfill all groups and add some not so finished pilots if needed later.

I'll also be moving up some of the groups from Singers that can reach Formosa in two hops, so that will get another 150 fighters into Home Defense.

I actually have too many low naval trained pilots and I wish the LB groups could train fighter pilots. I might have to look at the upgrade paths. I'm pretty sure that for 250 PPs I can change them to FB, which might be the way to go. Good for defense while training as well. Recent daylight raids showed that even partially trained 30exp 60 air skill pilots can take down even the best Allied bombers. Now that I know that it give a bit more freedom to use the training groups as supplemental defense groups.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 10:42:16 AM

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The turn begins with the introduction of a new Allied toy, the B-26 invader. This plane is stacked with front facing 50cal, is crazy fast and quite durable. Tough cookie.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 10:45:09 AM

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... where the daytime settings use the front facing guns in the defensive fire calculations, apparently the night interception rules correctly calculates defensive fire due to the majority of attacks coming from below with the upward facing 20mm canons. Maybe I should fly some NF in the day?

The B-25D1 that I've complained about vociferously got some back this turn. They went down like flies for no hits on the industry in Kumamoto.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 10:47:12 AM

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Jakes move in to take over the duties of hitting straggling transports from the Graces which returned safely to Hiroshima.

They hit two damaged xAKs sinking them, plus ...

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 10:51:15 AM

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... three daring buggers got under the CAP at Naha and put 4 x 60kg on a DD there!

The 150+ corsairs were all set to 32k. I'm sure this will change now. Too bad I didn't run a test on a low kami strike from Kagoshima or Taihoku out here.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 10:54:51 AM

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Bombers again hit Moppo airfield, but some also branched out to hit the port and the ground troops. A few also went for the ground troops to the West of Moppo with limited success. I'll hold most back next turn, scaling down to 120+ 2E hitting the fields and port of Moppo. I'd like to get the port up in damage so that if the Allies do come forward maybe the unload times will be increased and allow daytime strikes against the transports.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 11:02:14 AM

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No other major combat took place other than big strikes hitting troops in China.

Here is a shot of the Yamashiro and others in the shipyards at Nagasaki. Not as bad as I'd thought for the initial repair of minor damage. The float damage will be months though for sure. The ship might be able to be used as a port defense ship at nagasaki once the system damage is down though. It'll be vulnerable to smaller quick ships with TT, but could still provide a deterrent to some bombardments, maybe. We'll see.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 11:18:24 AM

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30 May 1945
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SUBS: A few more subs sunk, this time in the port at Moppo. Tomorrow most Es will hang back and get more DCs.

KOREA: The KB moves in for a shot at 8 hexes but the Allies move out of range. No worries. We'll sit and wait. If he wants to land more at Moppo, the KB will be ready. Currently it's just nice that the base is closed and I don't have to worry about the addition of 250-300 top notch defensive fighters there.

Some supply is moving through Southern Korea. That is good. The North is less supplied, but not critical yet (by 45 standards anyway).

STRAT BOMBING: None except the 2E that got creamed.

HOME ISLANDS: Holy CAP again! This time at night. About 38 2E coming to hit Kumamoto industry don't make it back. That is significant. NF improve and the CAP settings are apparently right on for this kind of strike, coming in at 12k.

RECON: Still a lot of recon flying around Northern Korea. More on the industrial cities of Honshu. They'll likely notice some with increased fighter protection, others with none, but now I've learned a bit more about some settings options. The coverage should be better from surrounding bases. I hope.

CHINA: Bombing of ground forces is taking it's toll even in +2 terrain. Surprised how much is getting disabled here at Psingyiang. The Allied 2Es en masse are just as tough as the 4Es.

DEI: Some surprises next turn. Just for fun.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 30, 45
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TF 10 encounters mine field at Shimonoseki (104,57)

Japanese Ships
AM Wa 102
ML G-625

49 mines cleared

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Night Air attack on Kumamoto , at 102,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 6
J1N1-Sa Irving x 25
P1Y2-S Frances x 11

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 16
B-25D1 Mitchell x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5d-S Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Kumamoto , at 102,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 4
J1N1-Sa Irving x 23
P1Y2-S Frances x 11

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 9
B-25D1 Mitchell x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Kumamoto , at 102,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 4
J1N1-Sa Irving x 21
P1Y2-S Frances x 10

Allied aircraft
A-26B Invader x 23

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-26B Invader: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x A-26B Invader bombing from 12000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Kumamoto , at 102,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 56 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 9
J1N1-Sa Irving x 21
P1Y2-S Frances x 6

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 79,68

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Daniel L. Johnston, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Susan Luckenbach, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x E13A1 Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Moppo , at 100,54

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 153 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 17
P1Y2 Frances x 61
Ki-84r Frank x 12
Ki-102b Randy x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
SS Lamprey, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
PT-482, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 32nd Division, at 82,54 (Pingsiang)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 14
B-24J Liberator x 11
B-17E Fortress x 3
B-17F Fortress x 4
B-24D1 Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 72
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 18

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 3 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 17 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
919 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 89 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 14 (1 destroyed, 13 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Moppo , at 100,54

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 163 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 27
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 40
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 28
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 115
Ki-84a Frank x 83
Ki-102b Randy x 3

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PBM-3D Mariner: 2 damaged
PBM-3D Mariner: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
SS Tantivy, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Airbase hits 14
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 2nd Eng Amph Bde ...
Also attacking South Pacific ...
Also attacking 118th USAAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 33rd USN Naval Construction Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th Eng Amph Bde ...
Also attacking 1 USMC Seacoast Art ...

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Morning Air attack on Moppo , at 100,54

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 12
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 80
Ki-84r Frank x 27

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PBM-3D Mariner: 1 damaged
PBM-3D Mariner: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
PT-480, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Moppo , at 100,54

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 84 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 12
P1Y2 Frances x 47
Ki-102b Randy x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y2 Frances: 1 damaged
P1Y2 Frances: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
PT-485, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
PT-481, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Naha at 95,66

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1b Jake x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 89

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1b Jake: 3 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
DD Roe, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x E13A1b Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VC(F)-4 with F4U-1A Corsair (3 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 36900.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on 3rd Marine Division, at 100,53 , near Moppo

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 18
Ki-102b Randy x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 81,55 (near Pingsiang)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2533 troops, 314 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 3695

Defending force 63098 troops, 1307 guns, 1201 vehicles, Assault Value = 2101

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 64 (34 destroyed, 30 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
68th Division
69th Division
36th Division
131st Division
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
110th Division
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
27th Division
61st Infantry Brigade
62nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
132nd Division
67th Ind.Infantry Battalion
15th Division
22nd Division
71st Engineer Regiment
92nd Infantry Brigade
31st Engineer Regiment
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
72nd Field AA Battalion
21st Mortar Battalion
China Expeditionary Army
17th JAAF Base Force
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
22nd AA Regiment
11th Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
38th Army
9th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
31st Mountain Gun Regiment
52nd JAAF AF Bn
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
75th Field AA Battalion
11th Army
10th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
130th Division
74th Field AA Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th AA Regiment
11th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
12th Army
101st AA Regiment
North China Area Army
56th JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
18th British Division
2nd British Division
43rd Infantry Division
27th Infantry Division
7th Infantry Division
55th Heavy Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
208th Field Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
XV Indian Corps
87th Medium Regiment
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
India Command
6th Medium Regiment
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Provisional GMC Grp

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Reinforcements:

E No.85 arrives at Tokyo
215th Shinbu-tai arrives at Utsonomiya
230th Division arrives at Tokyo
321st Division arrives at Tokyo
351st Division arrives at Utsonomiya
354th Division arrives at Tokyo

Losses: none.

Ships Sunk:

SS Tantivy is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on May 30, 1945
PT-480 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on May 30, 1945
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This is a great boon for NF pilot experience, and as shown by the kills below, these groups will now be even tougher to get through. Most have a few 70-80exp pilots with a bunch that were trained to 50exp 70air. They've been getting progressively better, most in the 60exp area now, but this threw a bunch of pilots into the 70s.

Only about 10 NF were lost, and only a few pilots KIA/WIA.

PO2 Morioka I. of S-902 Hikotai is credited with kill number 3
PO2 Katsuma S. of 302 Ku S-2 is credited with kill number 2
ENS Kanno H. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Nojima I. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Nagashima H. of 332 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Ikura L. of 332 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 2
ENS Matsuki R. of 332 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Kaneko S. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Kawato W. of 332 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Inano W. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 3
PO2 Doikawa A. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Ikura L. of 332 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 3
PO2 Nagashima H. of 332 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 3
PO2 Doikawa A. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 3
PO2 Matsumoto R. of 332 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 2
LT Sakai R. of S-902 Hikotai is credited with kill number 4
PO2 Matsumoto R. of 332 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 3
PO2 Nojima I. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 3
PO2 Sugiyama V. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Matsumoto O. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 3
ENS Kanno H. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 3
PO2 Hamano N. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Ikura L. of 332 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 4
PO2 Nagashima H. of 332 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 4
PO2 Inano W. of 352 Ku S-3 is credited with kill number 4
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 3:16:55 PM

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Here is the requested info on the KB composition. I'm kind of astounded to still leave this tool in working order, and although severely outnumbered, it still packs a punch as seen recently.

As you can see by the dearth of BBs in it, this is not built for defensive purposes, but for striking. The BBs are needed for keeping Moppo suppressed.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 3:24:32 PM

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The last few turns have calmed down a bit. This one had very little activity around Moppo, as the field strikes again were shut down for weather.

Some kamis decided it would be a good idea to hit some DDs at Amami-Oshima, and actually hit one, twice! They got some escort to come along, and broke through the very light CAP to hit one DD. Another one to keep in the bag of tricks for later if he's going to put only one group on CAP in this easiest of his island bases to hit.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 3:29:07 PM

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This is tempting to try soon. Most often this probably has sweepers preparing or resting with only minimal CAP. I'd have to time things well though.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/7/2014 3:46:59 PM

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31 May 1945
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SUBS: Only one interaction, when the Mapiro missed I-202 near Saisho To. The number of subs near Moppo is down to around 25-30 now.

KOREA: Troops begin to move to try to challenge the Allied forces at Masan. There is about 5700AV and a LOT of heavy arty in the hex. I'l now threaten to move behind and see what he wants to do about it. If the troops retreat we'll follow to Moppo. The clear territory here will not help the Allies exclusively in this case. We can potentially use it too. Armor will also move from Gunzan in a few days to coincide with the moves of the other 1500AV no the move.

STRAT BOMBING: None.

HOME ISLANDS: more rearrangements. The KB got some new planes at maizuro and will be back on station tomorrow. Other groups were filled out and i assessed how much actual training I still need for fighters. I'll leave several IJN groups and a bunch of IJAAF groups training instead of changing all of them. I will need some more trained pilots, still. All groups are filled now though, and the quality is high.

CHINA: Psingyiang falls. Well, the air power was too much here. Couldn't even last one attack in +2 territory with what started out as premium divisions, fully supped and rested. Too bad. I got what I wanted at least. There is a lot of focus here, but I might have chosen anther method of having this happen. I could have played differently here. Ultimately though China is toast, and has been since all supply generation was destroyed.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 31, 45
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TF 344 encounters mine field at Fusan (103,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Choun Maru #21, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
AMc Bisan Maru #3

70 mines cleared

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Sub vs Sub: SS Mapiro attacking SS I-202 at 99,56 - near Saishu To

Japanese Ships
SS I-202

Allied Ships
SS Mapiro

SS Mapiro launches 2 torpedoes at 2,000 yards

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Amami Oshima at 98,64

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 24
Ki-84r Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 14 destroyed
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Thatcher, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Twiggs
DD Beatty II

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-67-Ib Peggy flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 3 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VF-18 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes

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Ground combat at Pingsiang (82,54)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 61476 troops, 1021 guns, 2237 vehicles, Assault Value = 2831

Defending force 36595 troops, 403 guns, 113 vehicles, Assault Value = 1028

Allied adjusted assault: 1915

Japanese adjusted defense: 193

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Pingsiang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
[color=#990000]14965 casualties reported
Squads: 392 destroyed, 261 disabled
Non Combat: 608 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 158 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 191 (190 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 85 (85 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Allied ground losses:
678 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 91 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
17th Motorised Division
19th Motorised Division
50th Tank Brigade
6th Australian Division
Guides Cavalry Regiment
3rd Cavalry Regiment
254th Armoured Brigade
255th Indian Tank Brigade
18th Cavalry Regiment
Gardner's Horse Regiment
11th PAVO Regiment
Provisionl Tank Brigade
9th Australian Division
2/11th Field Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
14th Army
2/13th Field Regiment

Defending units:
35th Division
51st Division
63rd Division
32nd Division
8th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion

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Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 83931 troops, 1590 guns, 1530 vehicles, Assault Value = 2572

Defending force 13071 troops, 126 guns, 80 vehicles, Assault Value = 140

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 1803

Japanese adjusted defense: 377

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1677 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 131 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 77 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 30 (9 destroyed, 21 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
349 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 36 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
XXXIII Corps Engineer Battalion
36th British Division
14th Army Engineer Battalion
XV Corps Engineer Battalion
14th Indian Division
26th Indian Division
41st Infantry Division
9th Indian Division
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
IV Corps Engineer Battalion
5th Indian Division
III Indian Corps
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
163rd Light AA Regiment
Southeast Asia
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
33rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
86th Medium Regiment
1st Indian Medium Regiment
85th Medium Regiment
134th (East Ang) Regiment
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment
8th Belfast Heavy Regiment
134th Medium Regiment

Defending units:
36th Ind.Mixed Brigade
31st Ind.Mixed Regiment
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment
209th JAAF AF Bn
37th Ind.Mixed Brigade
7th Base Force
Hong Kong Special Base Force
7th Guards Inf. Regiment
Canton Special Base Force
12th Field AF Construction Battalion
13th Army
29th JNAF AF Unit /1
131st Naval Const Bn /2

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Reinforcements: none.

Losses:

AMc

Ships Sunk:

PT-311 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on May 29, 1945
PT-482 is reported to have been sunk near Moppo on May 30, 1945
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As can be seen here the Allied fleet moves North and West, but now I don't think he is planning another landing, just needing to go to Moppo. Its like one of the videos where the cat is laying on the dog's blanket. The dog just circles around, not wanting to get scratched, but really wants it's own bed back. The cat just sits and watches, ready. Eventually the dog takes some action. Will the cat be able to inflict enough damage to fight it off?

Sent about 80 mines to Saisho To. I'll send about 120 more over the course of the next week. This is a base that a lot traverses through for the Allies and one that he will likely want soon.

Task Force 93 lays defensive minefield at Saishu To ( 99 , 55) and sets course for Fukuoka

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 2:36:01 AM

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On the CV TFs, how come you don't move a couple into TF 209 to try to get them all closer to 200 planes? Isn't that still the point where you minimize coordination penalties?

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 4:53:03 AM

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I would say because of speed.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 7:29:17 AM

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On the CV TFs, how come you don't move a couple into TF 209 to try to get them all closer to 200 planes? Isn't that still the point where you minimize coordination penalties?

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I would say because of speed.

Exactly. This isn't the best shot as the TFs are all in various movement modes, but yes, it's aligned speed. The CS cruisers obviously aren't as slow as the CVE, but I like them in this TF as opposed to the others because hey are just a bit slower than the majority of the CVs.

The Chiyoda is there with TF 138 as it has the Kaga, Hiyo and Ryuho which are all slower than the Unryus and others.

For a close in strike last time they were perfectly coordinated. I spent a lot on TF commanders, and hopefully that will continue to pay off.

Just got this note from Jocke. Things could be 'interesting' next turn.

Working on the turn. Should be with you shortly. Took longer then anticipated to sort out the Soviets.

If you moved your CVs NW this should be a quite interesting turn...

I wrote back that I was out late and that I'm not sure I'll be ready for 'interesting' until I have a few more cups of this!

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 8:25:59 AM

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The Allies move in toward the Korean coastline, one hex North of Keijo, and so the battle begins ...

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:04:08 AM

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This move is interesting, and definitely aggressive. I think Jocke finally has had enough, needs to do something in Korea and had to decide to challenge the KB. Interestingly, we got the battle in the spot we wanted, but it was 7 hexes, not 8, unfortunately.

The KB moved to the hex between Shimoneseki and Fusan, well supported by numerous bases on land and close to port for anything damaged. The Allied move North kept a lot of our LBA out of strike range, but the way LBA coordinates, that probably was a good things today. It still leaves the possibility also of a big day two with a lot more LBA involved. We'll see.

The first strikes went in from the LBA at Fusan.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:08:05 AM

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The day began with a bunch of sweeps by P47N and P-51D. They P-51s hit Genzen in North Korea, which was fantastic as there was no CAP there. The P-47s hit Taikyu getting to a lot of the CAP at Fusan. This wore things down a bit and Probably did help the Allied strikes that came in later toward the KB, although a lot of LBA got involved and they were so big, they likely would have gotten through anyway.

We did pretty well agains the P-47N, all things considered. It's still the best plane in game right now though, and showed it.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:10:08 AM

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The first strike from Fusan did get planes through, but only two Judys that missed a CVE. Later everything was murdered as the escort was too light.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:11:46 AM

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Even though there were ore escorts set than strike planes, a lot of strikes looked like this, which didn't work well at all. No more LBA made it through the CAP, but I suppose they wore it down for what came next.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:14:13 AM

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This is the first and only big KB strike of the day, and it did well. Lots of planes came in late and were creamed, but some luckily chose to turn back, so not all of the strike planes were lost. Our Sams here really cut through the Allied defenses again, in spite of about 600 Corsairs and Spits on CAP.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:16:21 AM

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These guys mostly targeted CVEs, which is too bad. A few attacks did go against the Randolf and Implacable, and a few CVLs, but about 20 CVEs were hit hard enough to be sunk or in sinking condition, so not too bad.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:17:31 AM

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Then came the hard part to watch as about 100 strike panes came in alone to their doom.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:19:27 AM

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The Allied strikes finally came late in the morning phase. They are massive and well coordinated. The CAP was fantastic, with all kinds of LBA supporting, but nothing was going to keep all of these planes out.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:21:19 AM

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This is the final tally of what made it through to the KB. A lot of bad news came next ...

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:34:38 AM

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A few CVs were put out of commission and this of course meant the afternoon strikes were smaller.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:38:36 AM

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The CAP fought them on the way out too, getting a good bunch of strike planes. The Allies lost nearly 1,000 planes on the day!

The Japanese of course still lost more with the LBA included. About 1,200 no the day!

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:40:59 AM

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The afternoon KB strike was anemic and couldn't get more than a few planes through to add to the morning's devastation.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 2/8/2014 9:43:09 AM

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In a side note, our strikes at Moppo tank fully went in again today, and found some stragglers at the base. The fighters actually were able to get up as well, but these strikes came with a healthy escort and punched through easily to close the airfield again.