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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/17/2014 8:57:04 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/18/2014 10:02:02 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/21/2014 8:15:33 PM   
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This title sounds very interesting, Orm. Please let me know what you think about it.

I did enjoy reading Divide and Rule. The Partition of Africa, 1880-1914 by Henk Wesseling. But with that said I thought it lacked in describing the effects in Africa. The focus of the book was on the European powers and their treaties and diplomatic actions.

I was surprised that it was so few people involved in colonization (partition) of such a huge area. I was also dumbfounded by the fact that everyone knew that most treaties with the African rulers were not legal but every European nation treated them all as legal because if they begun to question the legality of another nations treaties then their own would be questioned. Such trickery as changing the wording when translating the treaty or worse seem to have been common when creating the colonies in Africa but this is not the focus of the book.

I preferred the book King Leopold's Ghost by Adam Hochschild that I read previously since it described, in depth, what happened in the colony but Divide and Rule provided a nice overview.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_Rule:_The_Partition_of_Africa,_1880-1914
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Leopold%27s_Ghost

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/21/2014 8:47:29 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/21/2014 9:12:19 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/21/2014 9:26:06 PM   
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Ian Kershaw, "The End: The Defiance and Destruction of Hitler's Germany, 1944-1945".




Oi! I have to read this one

I had read Kershaw's biography about Hitler. Amazing historian and book

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/23/2014 8:43:34 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/23/2014 1:29:54 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/24/2014 9:19:16 PM   
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I did enjoy reading Divide and Rule. The Partition of Africa, 1880-1914 by Henk Wesseling. But with that said I thought it lacked in describing the effects in Africa. The focus of the book was on the European powers and their treaties and diplomatic actions.

I was surprised that it was so few people involved in colonization (partition) of such a huge area. I was also dumbfounded by the fact that everyone knew that most treaties with the African rulers were not legal but every European nation treated them all as legal because if they begun to question the legality of another nations treaties then their own would be questioned. Such trickery as changing the wording when translating the treaty or worse seem to have been common when creating the colonies in Africa but this is not the focus of the book.

I preferred the book King Leopold's Ghost by Adam Hochschild that I read previously since it described, in depth, what happened in the colony but Divide and Rule provided a nice overview.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_Rule:_The_Partition_of_Africa,_1880-1914
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Leopold%27s_Ghost


Thank you, sounds like a title worth getting, just like another one, Scramble for Africa by Thomas Pakenham.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/25/2014 9:15:33 AM   
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Thank you, sounds like a title worth getting, just like another one, Scramble for Africa by Thomas Pakenham.

Thank you. I am putting Scramble for Africa on my "to buy" list at once.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/25/2014 9:20:22 AM   
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Thank you, sounds like a title worth getting, just like another one, Scramble for Africa by Thomas Pakenham.

Thank you. I am putting Scramble for Africa on my "to buy" list at once.
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Ordered from Amazon - thanks for the tip Hotschi


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/25/2014 9:26:58 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/26/2014 5:57:20 PM   
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Thank you, sounds like a title worth getting, just like another one, Scramble for Africa by Thomas Pakenham.

Thank you. I am putting Scramble for Africa on my "to buy" list at once.
warspite1

Ordered from Amazon - thanks for the tip Hotschi

warspite1

Wow...it arrived today... on a Sunday...


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/26/2014 6:01:21 PM   
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Thank you, sounds like a title worth getting, just like another one, Scramble for Africa by Thomas Pakenham.

Thank you. I am putting Scramble for Africa on my "to buy" list at once.
warspite1

Ordered from Amazon - thanks for the tip Hotschi

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Wow...it arrived today... on a Sunday...


Amazingly fast.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 1/28/2014 1:18:37 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/1/2014 6:28:12 AM   
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Now onto Third Axis, Fourth Ally: The Romanian Armed Forces in the European War 1941-45.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/1/2014 8:05:53 AM   
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Finished Gathering Storm - a very good read

Now onto Third Axis, Fourth Ally: The Romanian Armed Forces in the European War 1941-45.

I do not understand this title - Third Axis, Fourth Ally.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/1/2014 8:50:58 AM   
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Finished Gathering Storm - a very good read

Now onto Third Axis, Fourth Ally: The Romanian Armed Forces in the European War 1941-45.

I do not understand this title - Third Axis, Fourth Ally.
warspite1

Join the club! But I think it refers to the European war only, and that in terms of overall contribution, Romania was the 3rd member of the Axis and (after she switched sides in 1944) the fourth member of the Allies. I might be talking sloblocks however...

So far, its proving to be a good book


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/1/2014 11:31:17 AM   
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Finished Gathering Storm - a very good read

Now onto Third Axis, Fourth Ally: The Romanian Armed Forces in the European War 1941-45.

I do not understand this title - Third Axis, Fourth Ally.
warspite1

Join the club! But I think it refers to the European war only, and that in terms of overall contribution, Romania was the 3rd member of the Axis and (after she switched sides in 1944) the fourth member of the Allies. I might be talking sloblocks however...

So far, its proving to be a good book


Great Britain, France, Poland, USSR, Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, Norway and Yugoslavia were all European nations that, as I understand it, were part of the Allies. And not counting USA, Canada, Australia and India in its contribution towards defeating the Euro-Axis just seems plain wrong to me.

And then there is Italy after 1943...

I think that your explanation is the right one but it feels to me that the one selecting the title was talking sloblocks.

In my book Romania is nowhere near being the fourth Ally.

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But, please, keep me updated on what you think of the book. I do feel that my knowledge of Romania during WWII is lacking.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/1/2014 5:35:08 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/1/2014 9:05:53 PM   
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Hannibal: A History of the Art of War among the Carthaginians and Romans Down to the Battle of Pydna, 168 BC, with a Detailed Account of the Second Punic War by Theodore Ayrault Dodge

And yet another book that I have to read.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/3/2014 2:48:56 AM   
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Thinking about picking up AGEOD's Espana game at some point in the future. Figured I should know what the heck this war was about before I try to fight it. Really interesting so far, although it's difficult to keep up with the multitude of different factions on the republican side.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/3/2014 4:33:40 AM   
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Really interesting so far, although it's difficult to keep up with the multitude of different factions on the republican side.
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+ 1

Anarchists, Falangists, Carlists, CEDA, Popular Front, CNT/FAI etc etc. Not an easy read - but a good book nonetheless.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/4/2014 4:48:42 AM   
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Finished Gathering Storm - a very good read

Now onto Third Axis, Fourth Ally: The Romanian Armed Forces in the European War 1941-45.

I do not understand this title - Third Axis, Fourth Ally.
warspite1

Join the club! But I think it refers to the European war only, and that in terms of overall contribution, Romania was the 3rd member of the Axis and (after she switched sides in 1944) the fourth member of the Allies. I might be talking sloblocks however...

So far, its proving to be a good book


Great Britain, France, Poland, USSR, Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, Norway and Yugoslavia were all European nations that, as I understand it, were part of the Allies. And not counting USA, Canada, Australia and India in its contribution towards defeating the Euro-Axis just seems plain wrong to me.

And then there is Italy after 1943...

I think that your explanation is the right one but it feels to me that the one selecting the title was talking sloblocks.

In my book Romania is nowhere near being the fourth Ally.

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But, please, keep me updated on what you think of the book. I do feel that my knowledge of Romania during WWII is lacking.
warspite1

A couple more chapters in and yes, my first impressions were justified - this is an excellent book. The only niggle I have is that the maps are appallingly basic. But that aside, it is really interesting learning about the strengths and weaknesses of the Romanian army, why they went to war in the first place, the hatred of the Hungarians (one incident already where they almost came to blows - inside the Soviet Union!), the losses suffered, the political aspect. Great Stuff!


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/5/2014 7:56:32 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/9/2014 7:06:27 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/14/2014 9:52:44 PM   
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Currently reading Australia's Pacific War - Challenging a National Myth by Tom O'Lincoln. A pita to read, but at least O'Lincoln openly states he intended this book for a left-wing audience. He raises some good points, problem is his interpretation. And I don't expect to have Marx, Engels and Trotski quoted in a book about the Pacific War.... Anyway, it's refreshing to read a completely differing opinion - refreshing yes, but still has me rolling my eyes on almost every page.

Reading all this Australian/Churchill related stuff, drags me deeper and deeper into the "Politics of War". There's some interesting books around by D.M.Horner and David Day...

I need days 48 hours long

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/14/2014 9:56:53 PM   
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Finished Churchill and Australia by Graham Freudenberg. Bad press for Winston, but Freudenberg is also treating Australian politicians critically. Learned heaps of new things. Didn't know that WSC wanted to divert parts of a Australian Division to Burma during its way home from the Mediterranean. Naturally, Gallipoli of WW I is covered, as well as all the quarrels between Curtin and Churchill. Good read, recommended.

Currently reading Australia's Pacific War - Challenging a National Myth by Tom O'Lincoln. A pita to read, but at least O'Lincoln openly states he intended this book for a left-wing audience. He raises some good points, problem is his interpretation. And I don't expect to have Marx, Engels and Trotski quoted in a book about the Pacific War.... Anyway, it's refreshing to read a completely differing opinion - refreshing yes, but still has me rolling my eyes on almost every page.

Reading all this Australian/Churchill related stuff, drags me deeper and deeper into the "Politics of War". There's some interesting books around by D.M.Horner and David Day...

I need days 48 hours long
warspite1

I know the feeling. There are a number of books I want to read again too, but I just haven't got the time as there are too many unread books still to be started

Amazed you can stick with a pita book like O'Lincoln's - I've never read it, but from your description I suspect I never will either


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/15/2014 3:42:24 PM   
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If I like this well enough, I could order The Good Soldiers and Thank You for Your Service

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 2/15/2014 7:53:04 PM   
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Would be interested to hear if anyone knows of such a book.

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