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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 5:30:40 PM   
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Thank you for the explanation.

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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 7:06:13 PM   
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warspite1,

Do yourself a favor-lower your blood pressure by 'green buttoning' those forumites that are perennial problems. It's helped me enjoy my forum time that much more when I am here.

Cheers.

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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 7:32:51 PM   
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warspite1,

Do yourself a favor-lower your blood pressure by 'green buttoning' those forumites that are perennial problems. It's helped me enjoy my forum time that much more when I am here.

Cheers.
warspite1

CB I don't use the Green Button - never have. It's a personal choice of course, but to me it does not seem right. You cannot just airbrush people out in real life so seems wrong in a virtual environment.

I have been on this forum for about six years. I've had run-ins with a few people - but that's part of life (we can't get on with everyone) and these have been mostly worked through over time, no harm done. Healthy debate is sometimes a good thing!

But sadly, sometimes in life though you come across someone who you are never going to jive with. It happens, its unfortunate but...... So thanks for the well meaning advice, but I will continue on without the green button - and just watch my BP .

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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:07:05 PM   
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Mom...Dad...Bullwinkle and Alfred are talking politics!!! Help..make them stop!!




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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:12:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LoBaron


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ORIGINAL: vonRocko

Mom...Dad...Bullwinkle and Alfred are talking politics!!! Help..make them stop!!



warspite1

Hee hee Thought this would attract a lot of Winkle's mates! What's it like being seen on the General Discussion forum where all the thickies hang out? Better wash yourself down and scuttle back to your more usual - and superior - surroundings


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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:17:18 PM   
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Ah, I am not biased. Nice place actually. Some even have a good sense of humor, like vonRocko.

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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:20:03 PM   
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You cannot just airbrush people out in real life so seems wrong in a virtual environment.


I respectfully disagree. Not everyone has a right to take up my time with their political message, religious proselytizing (or atheistic propaganda), poor choice of language / grammar and various annoyances. I can-literally-turn them off of the tele, close the door on them, hang up the phone or put their email in the 'spam' folders. I can 'unfriend' them on Facebook or other social media. I can keep a lot of people out of my life that annoy, heckle or irritate me.

This forum is no different. There are some well-meaning blokes that get a bit carried away every so often. I generally let them slide a few times. Perennial irritants, posturing toadies, vulgarians and malodorous perverts get the button. So do people that are NEVER WRONG. About anything. In the history of EVER. You've run into some of those types on this forum, I'm sure.

To each their own, but I again suggest the use of this modern convenience. You'll get used to it in time, I'm certain.

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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:21:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LoBaron

Ah, I am not biased. Nice place actually. Some even have a good sense of humor, like vonRocko.
warspite1




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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:24:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1
You cannot just airbrush people out in real life so seems wrong in a virtual environment.


I respectfully disagree. Not everyone has a right to take up my time with their political message, religious proselytizing (or atheistic propaganda), poor choice of language / grammar and various annoyances. I can-literally-turn them off of the tele, close the door on them, hang up the phone or put their email in the 'spam' folders. I can 'unfriend' them on Facebook or other social media. I can keep a lot of people out of my life that annoy, heckle or irritate me.

This forum is no different. There are some well-meaning blokes that get a bit carried away every so often. I generally let them slide a few times. Perennial irritants, posturing toadies, vulgarians and malodorous perverts get the button. So do people that are NEVER WRONG. About anything. In the history of EVER. You've run into some of those types on this forum, I'm sure.

To each their own, but I again suggest the use of this modern convenience. You'll get used to it in time, I'm certain.
warspite1

May I be the first to congratulate you on the use of the term malodorous perverts!

Now, how do I get that into a conversation with a client tomorrow?


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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:28:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1
You cannot just airbrush people out in real life so seems wrong in a virtual environment.


I respectfully disagree. Not everyone has a right to take up my time with their political message, religious proselytizing (or atheistic propaganda), poor choice of language / grammar and various annoyances. I can-literally-turn them off of the tele, close the door on them, hang up the phone or put their email in the 'spam' folders. I can 'unfriend' them on Facebook or other social media. I can keep a lot of people out of my life that annoy, heckle or irritate me.

This forum is no different. There are some well-meaning blokes that get a bit carried away every so often. I generally let them slide a few times. Perennial irritants, posturing toadies, vulgarians and malodorous perverts get the button. So do people that are NEVER WRONG. About anything. In the history of EVER. You've run into some of those types on this forum, I'm sure.

To each their own, but I again suggest the use of this modern convenience. You'll get used to it in time, I'm certain.
warspite1

May I be the first to congratulate you on the use of the term malodorous perverts!

Now, how do I get that into a conversation with a client tomorrow?



Thanks for the compliment. This bit etched that special phrase into my brain many, many moons ago:

A man walks into an office.

Man: Good morning, I'd like to have an argument, please.

Receptionist: Certainly, sir. Have you been here before?

Man: No, this is my first time.

Receptionist: I see, well we'll see who's free at the moment.

Mr. Bakely's free, but he's a little bit concilliatory. No. Try Mr. Barnhart, room 12.

Man: Thank you.

He enters room 12.

Angry man: WHADDAYOU WANT?

Man: Well, Well, I was told outside that...

Angry man: DON'T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT DROPPINGS!

Man: What?

A: SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE!

YOU VACUOUS STUFFY-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!

M: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!

A: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!

M: Oh! Oh I see!

A: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.

M: Oh...Sorry...

A: Not at all!

A: (under his breath) stupid git.

The man goes into room 12A. Another man is sitting behind a desk.

Man: Is this the right room for an argument?

Other Man:(pause) I've told you once.

Man: No you haven't!

Other Man: Yes I have.

M: When?

O: Just now.

M: No you didn't!

O: Yes I did!

M: You didn't!

O: I did!

M: You didn't!

O: I'm telling you, I did!

M: You didn't!

O: (breaking into the developing argument) Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?

M: Ah! (taking out his wallet and paying) Just the five minutes.

O: Just the five minutes. Thank you.

Anyway, I did.

M: You most certainly did not!

O: Now let's get one thing perfectly clear: I most definitely told you!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did! (very fast)

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh look, this isn't an argument!

(pause)

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

(pause)

M: It's just contradiction!

O: No it isn't!

M: It IS!

O: It is NOT!

M: You just contradicted me!

O: No I didn't!

M: You DID!

O: No no no!

M: You did just then!

O: Nonsense!

M: (exasperated) Oh, this is futile!!

(pause)

O: No it isn't!

M: Yes it is!

(pause)

I came here for a good argument!

O: AH, no you didn't, you came here for an *argument*!

M: An argument isn't just contradiction.

O: Well! it CAN be!

M: No it can't!

An argument is a connected series of statement intended to establish a proposition.

O: No it isn't!

M: Yes it is! 'tisn't just contradiction.

O: Look, if I *argue* with you, I must take up a contrary position!

M: Yes but it isn't just saying "no it isn't".

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it ISN'T! Argument is an intellectual process.

Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

O: It is NOT!

M: It is!

O: Not at all!

M: It is!

>DING!< The Arguer hits a bell on his desk and stops.

O: Thank you, that's it.

M: (stunned) What?

O: That's it. Good morning.

M: But I was just getting interested!

O: I'm sorry, the five minutes is up.

M: That was never five minutes!!

O: I'm afraid it was.

M: (leading on) No it wasn't.....

(pause)

O: (dirty look) I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more.

M: WHAT??

O: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.

M: But that was never five minutes just now!

(pause... the Other Man raises his eyebrows)

Oh Come on!

Oh this is...

This is ridiculous!

O: I told you...

I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you PAY!

M: Oh all right. (takes out his wallet and pays again.)

There you are.

O: Thank you.

M: (clears throat) Well...

O: Well WHAT?

M: That was never five minutes just now.

O: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!

M: Well I just paid!

O: No you didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: (unable to talk straight he's so mad) I don't want to argue about it!

O: Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay!

M: Ah HAH!! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing???

Ah HAAAAAAHHH! Gotcha!

O: (pause) No you haven't!

M: Yes I have!

If you're arguing, I must have paid.

O: Not necessarily.

I *could* be arguing in my spare time.


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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:32:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1
You cannot just airbrush people out in real life so seems wrong in a virtual environment.


I respectfully disagree. Not everyone has a right to take up my time with their political message, religious proselytizing (or atheistic propaganda), poor choice of language / grammar and various annoyances. I can-literally-turn them off of the tele, close the door on them, hang up the phone or put their email in the 'spam' folders. I can 'unfriend' them on Facebook or other social media. I can keep a lot of people out of my life that annoy, heckle or irritate me.

This forum is no different. There are some well-meaning blokes that get a bit carried away every so often. I generally let them slide a few times. Perennial irritants, posturing toadies, vulgarians and malodorous perverts get the button. So do people that are NEVER WRONG. About anything. In the history of EVER. You've run into some of those types on this forum, I'm sure.

To each their own, but I again suggest the use of this modern convenience. You'll get used to it in time, I'm certain.
warspite1

May I be the first to congratulate you on the use of the term malodorous perverts!

Now, how do I get that into a conversation with a client tomorrow?



Thanks for the compliment. This bit etched that special phrase into my brain many, many moons ago:

A man walks into an office.

Man: Good morning, I'd like to have an argument, please.

Receptionist: Certainly, sir. Have you been here before?

Man: No, this is my first time.

Receptionist: I see, well we'll see who's free at the moment.

Mr. Bakely's free, but he's a little bit concilliatory. No. Try Mr. Barnhart, room 12.

Man: Thank you.

He enters room 12.

Angry man: WHADDAYOU WANT?

Man: Well, Well, I was told outside that...

Angry man: DON'T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT DROPPINGS!

Man: What?

A: SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE!

YOU VACUOUS STUFFY-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!

M: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!

A: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!

M: Oh! Oh I see!

A: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.

M: Oh...Sorry...

A: Not at all!

A: (under his breath) stupid git.

The man goes into room 12A. Another man is sitting behind a desk.

Man: Is this the right room for an argument?

Other Man:(pause) I've told you once.

Man: No you haven't!

Other Man: Yes I have.

M: When?

O: Just now.

M: No you didn't!

O: Yes I did!

M: You didn't!

O: I did!

M: You didn't!

O: I'm telling you, I did!

M: You didn't!

O: (breaking into the developing argument) Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?

M: Ah! (taking out his wallet and paying) Just the five minutes.

O: Just the five minutes. Thank you.

Anyway, I did.

M: You most certainly did not!

O: Now let's get one thing perfectly clear: I most definitely told you!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did! (very fast)

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh look, this isn't an argument!

(pause)

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

(pause)

M: It's just contradiction!

O: No it isn't!

M: It IS!

O: It is NOT!

M: You just contradicted me!

O: No I didn't!

M: You DID!

O: No no no!

M: You did just then!

O: Nonsense!

M: (exasperated) Oh, this is futile!!

(pause)

O: No it isn't!

M: Yes it is!

(pause)

I came here for a good argument!

O: AH, no you didn't, you came here for an *argument*!

M: An argument isn't just contradiction.

O: Well! it CAN be!

M: No it can't!

An argument is a connected series of statement intended to establish a proposition.

O: No it isn't!

M: Yes it is! 'tisn't just contradiction.

O: Look, if I *argue* with you, I must take up a contrary position!

M: Yes but it isn't just saying "no it isn't".

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it ISN'T! Argument is an intellectual process.

Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

O: It is NOT!

M: It is!

O: Not at all!

M: It is!

>DING!< The Arguer hits a bell on his desk and stops.

O: Thank you, that's it.

M: (stunned) What?

O: That's it. Good morning.

M: But I was just getting interested!

O: I'm sorry, the five minutes is up.

M: That was never five minutes!!

O: I'm afraid it was.

M: (leading on) No it wasn't.....

(pause)

O: (dirty look) I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more.

M: WHAT??

O: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.

M: But that was never five minutes just now!

(pause... the Other Man raises his eyebrows)

Oh Come on!

Oh this is...

This is ridiculous!

O: I told you...

I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you PAY!

M: Oh all right. (takes out his wallet and pays again.)

There you are.

O: Thank you.

M: (clears throat) Well...

O: Well WHAT?

M: That was never five minutes just now.

O: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!

M: Well I just paid!

O: No you didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: (unable to talk straight he's so mad) I don't want to argue about it!

O: Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay!

M: Ah HAH!! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing???

Ah HAAAAAAHHH! Gotcha!

O: (pause) No you haven't!

M: Yes I have!

If you're arguing, I must have paid.

O: Not necessarily.

I *could* be arguing in my spare time.

warspite1

Sounds like something out of Monty Python. Where's it from?


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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:35:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Sounds like something out of Monty Python. Where's it from?


Of course it's Monty Python...

(under breath) Stupid git.






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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:41:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Sounds like something out of Monty Python. Where's it from?


Of course it's Monty Python...

(under breath) Stupid git.





warspite1

Sorry, I know very little actual MP. Life of Brian and a few sketches I'm afraid....


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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:41:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LoBaron
Some even have a good sense of humor


Aye. I also find Parusski funny. But looks aren't everything.


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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:43:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1
Sorry, I know very little actual MP. Life of Brian and a few sketches I'm afraid....


How? Wha? Eh? I...um...really? A Briton 'of that era' that hasn't memorized MP's entire works? Maybe it's just a sickness of mine.

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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 8:49:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1
Sorry, I know very little actual MP. Life of Brian and a few sketches I'm afraid....


How? Wha? Eh? I...um...really? A Briton 'of that era' that hasn't memorized MP's entire works? Maybe it's just a sickness of mine.
warspite1

Yes I'm more of a Blackadder II-IV (inc) bore.

Blackadder: This is the Jane Harrington?
Percy: Yes.
Blackadder: Jane 'Bury Me in a Y-Shaped Coffin' Harrington?
Percy: I think there may be two Jane Harringtons -
Blackadder: No, no.. Tall, blonde, elegant..?
Percy: Yes, that's her...
Blackadder: Goes like a privy door when the plague's in town?


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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 9:01:25 PM   
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I'm embarassed to say that I've not seen a one of 'em. Nary an episode.

Where would you recommend I start?

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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 9:07:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

I'm embarassed to say that I've not seen a one of 'em. Nary an episode.

Where would you recommend I start?
warspite1

Blackadder II (Elizabethan) is commonly held to be the best of the 4 series. I would start there. The whole cast is wonderful, not least Miranda Richardson as Queenie.

Blackadders III (Georgian) and IV (WWI) are also very good (the last episode of IV is a bit of a tear-jerker).

Blackadder I (War of the Roses) is pre Ben Elton and I've never seen any of them so can't comment.

These programs give you a real sense of British history too.....

Edmund: Tell me Young crone, is this Putney?
Crone: That it be... that it be...
Edmund: "Yes it is", not "That it be". You don't have to talk in that stupid voice to me, I'm not a tourist. I seek information about a Wisewoman.
Crone: Ah, the Wisewoman.. the Wisewoman.
Edmund: Yes, the Wisewoman.
Crone: Two things, my lord, must thee know of the Wisewoman. First, she is ... a woman! ...and second, she is ...
Edmund: Wise?
Crone: You do know her then?
Edmund: No, just a wild stab in the dark which is incidentally what you'll be getting if you don't start being a bit more helpful. Do you know where she lives?
Crone: Of course.
Edmund: Where?
Crone: Here. Do you have an appointment?
Edmund: No.
Crone: Well, you can go in anyway.
Edmund: Thank you Young crone. Here is a purse of moneys... which I'm not going to give to you.


< Message edited by warspite1 -- 3/3/2014 10:10:30 PM >


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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 9:15:36 PM   
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I prefer season four and one.

Edit:

Melchett: Field Marshal Haig has formulated a brilliant new tactical plan to ensure final victory in the field.

Blackadder: Ah. Would this brilliant plan involve us climbing out of our trenches and walking very slowly towards the enemy?

Captain Darling: How could you possibly know that, Blackadder? It's classified information!

Blackadder: It's the same plan that we used last time and the seventeen times before that.

Melchett: Exactly! And that is what is so brilliant about it! It will catch the watchful Hun totally off guard! Doing precisely what we've done eighteen times before is exactly the last thing they'll expect us to do this time! There is, however, one small problem.

Blackadder: That everyone always gets slaughtered in the first ten seconds.

Melchett: That's right. And Field Marshal Haig is worried this may be depressing the men a tad. So he's looking for a way to cheer them up


< Message edited by Orm -- 3/3/2014 10:20:45 PM >


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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 9:20:12 PM   
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I prefer season four and one.
warspite1

I should give season 1 a go - I have the DVD - just never got round to it...

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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 9:23:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

I prefer season four and one.
warspite1

I should give season 1 a go - I have the DVD - just never got round to it...

Season one is a bit more serious than the others. Or so I recall. If you could call any of them serious.

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RE: Double Standards - 3/3/2014 9:32:46 PM   
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I'll leave you with one of my favourite scenes:

Sir Walter: Oh yes? And who will be your captain? Hmph! To my mind,
there is only one seafarer with few enough marbles
to attempt that journey.

Edmund: Ah yes, and who is that?

Sir Walter: Why, Rum, of course. Captain Redbeard Rum.

Edmund: Well done. Just testing. And where would I find him on a
Tuesday?

Sir Walter: Well, if I remember his habits, he's usually up the Old
Sea Dog.

Edmund: Ah yes, and where is the Old Sea Dog?

Sir Walter: Well, on Tuesdays he's normally in bed with the Captain.


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RE: Double Standards - 3/4/2014 2:04:49 AM   
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I'd like to add to this thread, and to clarify more specifically why I refrain from discussions here now in the GD. I don't refrain from conversations because I don't like you guys, or even because someone disagreed with me. I refrain because no one is really allowed to disagree. The entire GD atmosphere is oppressive and offensive to open and free flowing chats. But like Warspite said, it is a double standard, even if it isn't an intentional one. This is after all a chat forum based mainly on wargames, and what can possibly be more political than wars? I've seen numerous debates about things like the atomic weapons program, Japan's goals in SE Asia, tactics and goals of the Huns, issues surrounding the American civil war, tons of discussions on all things martial... AND political. But when it comes to gun control, abortion, taxes, or climate change, it's a big no-no. Now why is it ok to discuss dropping atomic bombs on people, but not ok to discuss the effects of recycling or the causes and effects of socialized medicine? Without saying as much, the admins have declared that the reason is because... well, because they say because.

And that's why I left. Not because I agree or disagree on anything in particular, but because they reserve the right (and use it) to tell us what is and isn't ok to talk about with VERY strict guidelines. To me that's not a healthy environment for any kind of dialogue or mutual admiration society. To have to preface any kind of topical discussion with apologizes and formal declarations of intent is a bit much for me. There's no reason why a forum can't have healthy anarchy, even in a restricted 'adult' forum where such conversations could take place. Instead the rules are hard and fast and arbitrary as they can possibly be.

Again, it is their rules and it is their forum. There's no need to point that out to me. I just see that this is a continuing issue despite efforts to solve the problem. I've found over the years that censorship often causes more problems than it solves. This thread and the ever changing standards of practice are proof that the birds need to flap their wings as well as their jaws once in a while. What was it that Julius Caesar once said, 'better to let a man have his say and walk away satisfied then to try and silence him and create whispered conspiracies.'

But I'm not even petitioning for a private adult forum any more. I know that this has been off the table for a long time now, and has been rejected every time it's brought up. I just came back to add my 2 cents because I had a feeling that this is not a resolved issue, nor will it remain a resolved issue so long as members here are seeing their posts deleted, locked, and censored. It creates isolation and frustration and takes concourse off at the knees. There's no way to really become friends with someone as long as an attorney is standing over them waving an NDA contract.

And with that I'm following Elvis out the buildin'. Something about not letting a door hit me in my posterior region...

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RE: Double Standards - 3/4/2014 6:04:06 AM   
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Now why is it ok to discuss dropping atomic bombs on people, but not ok to discuss the effects of recycling or the causes and effects of socialized medicine?


Because War in the Pacific covers dropping atomic bombs on people, but none of the games in the Matrix catalog deal with recycling centers and free healthcare. Maybe if Matrix distributed the Democracy series of games you'd have more of a leg to stand on.

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RE: Double Standards - 3/4/2014 10:07:48 AM   
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When does a thread start to become political?

Mat
Whenever it goes against current conservative USA views

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RE: Double Standards - 3/4/2014 12:01:59 PM   
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IMO there are to many Indians and not enough chiefs, what is needed on here are community moderators, long term users that can keep an eye on things and step in when needed. The amount of times I have seen a good discussion thread locked is beyond a joke, a community moderator can see if a thread has become personal and deal with it accordingly or let it ride if it is just a discussion.

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RE: Double Standards - 3/4/2014 12:42:35 PM   
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not one of the 'back-patting, we're all best buddies brigade' on here going to mention the total arseholey behaviour of someone who went over to a sub forum and stamped his feet like a little girl, shouted rude words in the playground until a grown up came and closed the well-mannered, well discussed thread because he thought he should be allowed to do it and wasnt happy other children got to play with their toys?

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RE: Double Standards - 3/4/2014 12:52:42 PM   
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not one of the 'back-patting, we're all best buddies brigade' on here going to mention the total arseholey behaviour of someone who went over to a sub forum and stamped his feet like a little girl, shouted rude words in the playground until a grown up came and closed the well-mannered, well discussed thread because he thought he should be allowed to do it and wasnt happy other children got to play with their toys?

+1

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RE: Double Standards - 3/4/2014 4:10:46 PM   
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not one of the 'back-patting, we're all best buddies brigade' on here going to mention the total arseholey behaviour of someone who went over to a sub forum and stamped his feet like a little girl, shouted rude words in the playground until a grown up came and closed the well-mannered, well discussed thread because he thought he should be allowed to do it and wasnt happy other children got to play with their toys?
warspite1

Who dat den?


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RE: Double Standards - 3/4/2014 4:19:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: undercovergeek

not one of the 'back-patting, we're all best buddies brigade' on here going to mention the total arseholey behaviour of someone who went over to a sub forum and stamped his feet like a little girl, shouted rude words in the playground until a grown up came and closed the well-mannered, well discussed thread because he thought he should be allowed to do it and wasnt happy other children got to play with their toys?
warspite1

Who dat den?

warspite1

Ah..you mean me? Well, like most things in life, things are actually not always as simple as they seem. You clearly have a version of events based on what you read and what you want to play along with - fine, entirely up to you - I have the version I know to be true. Suffice to say, that what transpired yesterday was not all it seemed.




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