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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/10/2014 7:44:03 PM   
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No - nothing specific on camo I'm afraid - its a good book though



As I expected, but thanks for the information.

By the way, in case someone is interested, John B.Lundstrom's book, The First South Pacific Campaign: Pacific Fleet Strategy December 1941 - June 1942 will be published as paperback on March 30 - the original hardcopy, published 1977, currently sells from 110 Euros (used) up to Euro 185 (new)

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/10/2014 9:08:26 PM   
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No - nothing specific on camo I'm afraid - its a good book though



As I expected, but thanks for the information.

By the way, in case someone is interested, John B.Lundstrom's book, The First South Pacific Campaign: Pacific Fleet Strategy December 1941 - June 1942 will be published as paperback on March 30 - the original hardcopy, published 1977, currently sells from 110 Euros (used) up to Euro 185 (new)
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Yes I am interested - thanks for the tip Hotschi. Do you have the original? Is it just a story about the Battle of the Coral Sea?


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/10/2014 9:52:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't own the original. Ever so often I search a couple of authors (among them Lundstrom) too see what's available. And since Jonathan Parshall (author of "Shattered Swords") wrote a review of the original '77 edition and recommends it, I guess it'll be a good read.

According to Amazon, this title deals with strategy from January to June 42. I ordered this title today, if you want to wait, I can report when it arrives.

I got another book by Lundstrom, The First Team: Pacific Air Combat from Pearl Harbor to Midway which I haven't read yet either  - there's only so few hours a day...



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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/10/2014 10:56:40 PM   
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I don't own the original. Ever so often I search a couple of authors (among them Lundstrom) too see what's available. And since Jonathan Parshall (author of "Shattered Swords") wrote a review of the original '77 edition and recommends it, I guess it'll be a good read.

According to Amazon, this title deals with strategy from January to June 42. I ordered this title today, if you want to wait, I can report when it arrives.

I got another book by Lundstrom, The First Team: Pacific Air Combat from Pearl Harbor to Midway which I haven't read yet either  - there's only so few hours a day...


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Thank-you, I will wait and get your feedback if that is okay. I currently have:

Third Axis, Fourth Ally - Half read
Scramble for Africa - about 1/5th read
RBS, Fred Goodwin and the Men who blew up the British Economy - Just started
Monty's Men - Chapter 2

As you say - too little time...


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/11/2014 5:01:40 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/14/2014 9:23:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Four books at the same time!

I couldn't do that, I'd get confused. I can only read two at the same time, and they have to be different topics, otherwise I'd get - again - confused. Most time it's one e-book and one classic printed book (which I prefer over e-books).

Must be an age thing....

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/15/2014 4:33:04 AM   
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Four books at the same time!

I couldn't do that, I'd get confused. I can only read two at the same time, and they have to be different topics, otherwise I'd get - again - confused. Most time it's one e-book and one classic printed book (which I prefer over e-books).

Must be an age thing....
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I am not saying its ideal - its just difficult to say no when something really appeals

Fortunately the RBS book has been unputdownable(?) so having got it on Monday I have just a few pages left - then its back to the brilliant Scramble For Africa


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/15/2014 10:04:15 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/16/2014 4:27:44 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/16/2014 6:43:26 PM   
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On to the next volume in the series:

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/16/2014 7:27:56 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/17/2014 8:18:56 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/17/2014 11:41:56 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/21/2014 7:30:07 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/21/2014 8:13:30 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/22/2014 8:48:12 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/22/2014 11:50:15 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/23/2014 4:19:06 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/23/2014 10:03:27 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/27/2014 8:43:02 PM   
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Has anybody got Rising Sun, Falling Skies, a book about "The disastrous Java Sea Campaign of World War II"?

If so I would be interested in any feedback. Thank-you.


Not yet, but thanks for the tip. This is one of the most neglected campaigns of the Pacific War - to my knowledge there is no book available (be it English or German) which is focussing exclusively on the conquest of the DEI. You find a few bits and pieces (like the one you mention) but that's all.

Finished reading Corrigan's Blood, Sweat and Arrogance - the 1st third of the book, dealing with developments in the British Services between WW I and II, the rearmament of Germany and also to a lesser extent about French developments is the best part of the whole book.

One could stop reading the book at that point. Waste of time.


Started David Reynold's In Command of History: Churchill Fighting and Writing the Second World War - very good so far. Haven't finished E.B. Potter's Bull Halsey yet either - also a very good read.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/27/2014 9:02:02 PM   
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Has anybody got Rising Sun, Falling Skies, a book about "The disastrous Java Sea Campaign of World War II"?

If so I would be interested in any feedback. Thank-you.


Not yet, but thanks for the tip. This is one of the most neglected campaigns of the Pacific War - to my knowledge there is no book available (be it English or German) which is focussing exclusively on the conquest of the DEI. You find a few bits and pieces (like the one you mention) but that's all.

Finished reading Corrigan's Blood, Sweat and Arrogance - the 1st third of the book, dealing with developments in the British Services between WW I and II, the rearmament of Germany and also to a lesser extent about French developments is the best part of the whole book.

One could stop reading the book at that point. Waste of time.


Started David Reynold's In Command of History: Churchill Fighting and Writing the Second World War - very good so far. Haven't finished E.B. Potter's Bull Halsey yet either - also a very good read.
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Shame - always a bummer when you buy a book and soon realise you shouldn't have bothered....


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/27/2014 9:14:28 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/28/2014 8:39:32 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/31/2014 5:36:27 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/31/2014 8:42:16 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 3/31/2014 9:10:29 PM   
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Shame - always a bummer when you buy a book and soon realise you shouldn't have bothered....



It's curiosity! A couple of months ago I read another book by Corrigan, The Second World War: A Military History so I already knew his style of writing and his favourite topics of the war. In that other book he was already highly critical of Churchill and Montgomery, as well as uttering some questionable - at least! - positions (Most notably "By and large the Waffen SS behaved well.").... So I somehow knew what to expect.

Now in this book, Blood, Sweat and Arrogance with it's subtitle of The Myths of Churchill's War I expected some backing up of his earlier statements about Churchill's decisions, ideas and actions - but there hardly was any. It's just not enough to simply call WSC's ideas "idiocy", or to mention generally that he interefered too much in naval details, directing ships here and there. I want facts, not generalisations.

And again, in this book, he somehow writes oddly about the Waffen SS as having some "bad press". This writer, being an ex-infantryman with the Ghurka's, is either more relaxed about the issue, or, worse, more closely asspciated to the views of a notorious guy called - David Irving.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 4/5/2014 5:50:51 AM   
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Has anybody got Rising Sun, Falling Skies, a book about "The disastrous Java Sea Campaign of World War II"?

If so I would be interested in any feedback. Thank-you.
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Well I bought it anyway.

7 Chapters in and I have to say:

1. It's an enjoyable read. The author has a decent writing style.
2. Interesting to read about new areas e.g. the performance of the Dutch submarine force, MacArthur's response (or lack thereof) to the Japanese attack on the Philippines, the politics and personalities (Hart, Helfrich, MacArthur, Wavell etc) behind ABDA and the fact that all four nations had different priorities in how and where to stop the Japanese.
3. This is a subject I know little about in any detail and therefore if there are any glaring mistakes then I probably wouldn't know (I spotted a couple in the early chapters including when describing the Bismarck as having 16-inch guns) but nothing else so far.
4. I would love to read some reviews by people who know about this campaign (no reviews on Amazon yet) but regardless, this is a great introduction to this important and much ignored part of the Pacific War.



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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 4/7/2014 5:30:06 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 4/10/2014 7:26:34 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 4/10/2014 11:43:02 AM   
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