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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 6:57:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Some of those arriving Hurricane pilots are simply horrendous. Definitely check them out first.

Good thing you fled Burma, or are fleeing Burma.

Yeah, a forward defense of Burma would have been a bad choice. He's going to have a lot of irons in the fire soon, it seems, and the small Chinese divs moving to India could potentially cause some problems if they can get there, but also might just get trapped and destroyed. I have to think hard before sending units through the jungle to Ledo now. I might just want to leave them all on the border areas, dug in. Supply will be the issue though.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 7:04:01 AM

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SHE MADE IT TO PORT!!!!

Looks like a month to clear minor damage. Here is the shot.

Whew! From the increases in system and engine damage, she was losing the battle to stay afloat.

The fires sent her up to 79 (65) before they were out, then it's been going down slowly, so the damage control team was working well!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 7:11:32 AM

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I see you are enjoying the Japanese subs from an allied perspective!

Still following along but mostly reading on my phone. For some reason I can no longer log into the forums from it so I can write anything!

PS. Any initial thought on PDU OFF/SL yet? I found SLs to make China extremely problematic from an allied perspective and supply loss due to unwanted overstacking caused by retreats.

Yeah, wow. I don't think my subs in our game were this good so early. Makes me shiver for later.

So far it's been a challenge to figure out the best way to utilize the SL to my advantage in China. They've worked well in certain spots to keep the IJA from getting massive stacks and blowing through, but also I realize for the Chinese you have to be very careful about which units are in a contested hex. Some have a bunch of dead weight of disabled squads to start while others are small for their AV punch.

I haven't had too many retreats yet, one big one, but got a few very good results from other spots.

It's still very early, and I could be cursing a lot more in a few months, but so far the IJA hasn't just steamrolled which is good. At least the pace in China is slower.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 9:30:31 AM

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Jan 18, 1942
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SUBS: Sending the two RN subs to defend India! It's all that is there and can challenge the IJN fleet at all right now. Pretty sad.

INDIA: The first landing is at ... Akyab!!?? Interesting. Is this just a move to counter my early occupation of the Arakan and kill those two brigades defending it? maybe, but there is still a large fleet now between Diamond Harbour and Chittagong, but moving toward DH. i put string bags on for one hex from Calcutta in case he does land there. The rollover shows only 19 fighters and 12 bombers? Maybe it's only the Kaga? If that is the case some damage could be done. There are about 60 fighters in Calcutta now.

Since there was no landing at Chittagong I cancelled move orders for the fleeing units and will stand for now. It's looking less like an all-in move and more like a trapping move. We'll see. Getting interesting!

Pacific: The Aikoku Maru was tracked down by CA Louisville and sunk. A DD took a good shot and will need yard time. Sending them to Christmas Island on the way to Pearl. The Penrhyn port is building at 5% a day. Nice and slow. An engineer unit will arrive in about 5-6 days to speed up the process. I'm confident in being able to protect the island from any attacks with all of the IJN in various parts of the IO, but it's the passage to somewhere with a dry dock that worries me. Maybe the repair of minor damage will also get speed up to 2-3 hexes a day, and that could make Pearl an option even. A few special air groups have been training ASW and they will be brought to the area, plus all of the PC and KV I can get my hands on.

The good thing about all of this focus on the southern hemisphere is that the No Pac plan is moving right along. Adak will have a field in 1-2 days, Akutan is halfway there, and lots of support troops have staged to Dutch and Kodiak ready to move in.

CHINA: He's definitely building for a large scale move into the Sian area. About 15 units grouped on the plain now. I'm scrambling everything around to get to good defensive spots and dig. Moving back from the SE front to within one hex of Sian and also getting some into the +3 behind the city. Also, with this India incursion the B-17s have been called back to India. I'm also going to send a few more groups to Cape Town.

DEI: The Cocos experiment fails as a massive bombardment and invasion takes the base. I have to hand it to Nic here as he saw the potential and moved very quickly to counter it. All units there would have been destroyed anyway, so no great loss, but they could have possibly gone to OZ as well and been saved. A few are still only fragments and the rest will be sent to Koepang and saved as well. In all a loss of about 120 PPs and around 5-7 transport planes lost in ops over what would have been the result with out sending them to Cocos. The Japanese units will be out for a time as well recouping after the atoll landing. Worth a try!

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR January 18, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 82,82, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Showa Maru #3
PB Showa Maru #5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Meigen Maru, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
PT-20
PT-21
PT-22
PT-23
PT-24
PT-25
PT-26
PT-27
PT-28, Shell hits 1
PT-29
PT-30
PT-36
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Starbuck Island at 171,152, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AMC Aikoku Maru, Shell hits 22, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Shell hits 1
DD Anderson
DD Clark, Shell hits 1, on fire

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 23,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
CA Louisville engages AMC Aikoku Maru at 23,000 yards

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Ground combat at Cocos Islands (33,101)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 9928 troops, 84 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 273

Defending force 5234 troops, 43 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Japanese adjusted assault: 144

Allied adjusted defense: 9

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Cocos Islands !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1468 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 158 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2868 casualties reported
Squads: 81 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 319 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 61 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 56 (56 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 29 (29 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 13

Assaulting units:
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
91st Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
28th Gurkha Brigade
6th Indian Brigade
2nd Argylls Battalion
Sarawak Force /1
109th RAF Adv Base Force
1st Port Maint Engineer Battalion
110th RAF Adv Base Force
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
2nd ISF Base Force
113th RAF Adv Base Force
Del Monte AAF Base Force
111th RAF Adv Base Force
223 Group RAF /2

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Ground combat at Akyab (54,45)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2601 troops, 14 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 85

Defending force 8318 troops, 105 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 288

Assaulting units:
48th Gurkha Brigade

Defending units:
55th Cavalry Regiment
112th Infantry Rgt /7
55th Engr Rgt /4
143rd Infantry Rgt /6
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
4th JAAF Base Force
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Ships Sunk: Nice to see the DDs coming on the list the last few days from earlier battles.

DD Arashio is reported to have been sunk near Soc Trang on Dec 09, 1941
PB Showa Maru #5 is reported to have been sunk near Legaspi on Jan 18, 1942
AMC Aikoku Maru is reported to have been sunk near Starbuck Island on Jan 18, 1942
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Lots of ships still here doing something. What will it be?
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 10:15:15 AM

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I'd even look at moving Yorktown somewhere that he doesn't know about once the minor float is knocked off. Forget getting any system off. You either move her soon, or wait a long time such that he thinks he missed her there. If you wait a long time, you risk getting sniffed out by aerial recon. I'd move her sooner. With 15 Sys, that's not so bad. I'd make a short hop to somewhere else to knock off a few more points, perhaps Tahiti, and then move for a shipyard. If you wait too long, I think you risk more subs getting into place and catching her on the way out. You could try using Sara to escort her, with every plane turned on to ASW.

PS - can you get the planes off at Penrhyn?

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 10:33:41 AM

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INDIA: So, a landing did go in at Diamond Harbour!!! No bobmardment so I'll have to go by troops lost in the surf for a list of units. Looks like 3 divisions moderately well supported. Not close to enough to challenge Calcutta, so I'm sure more is on the way. I don't see paras, which is good. I've been putting small units on the route to Chittagong but haven't had enough yet to get the many nodes on the lore half of India. Should still be able to rail troops into Bengal if calcutta comes under siege. For every division I can get there he'll need at least two more to try to take it. I'll have a strong Aussie division in two weeks and that will definitely help. I'd guess the heavy radio traffic at Singers this turn is more headed this way. Colombo? Cochin?

15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 5th Div /15
15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 38th Div /6
15 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 33rd Div /5

81mm Mortar accidentally lost during unload of 2nd Mortar Bn
Motorized Support lost overboard during unload of 3rd Medium FA Rgt
10cm T92 Gun dropped into water during unload of 18th Medium FA Rgt

75mm/40 T88 AA damaged beyond repair during unload of 47th Fld AA Bn
15 Support troops lost overboard during unload of 6th Field Const Bn
15 Support troops lost in surf during unload of 51st Fld AA Bn
Motorized Support lost in surf during unload of 40th Fld AA Bn

Akyab goes down and I'll try to hold against the force that took it at Chittagong unless more drops in.

PI: Another IJA DA gets a 1:2 with lots of casualties. The forts remained at 2 also, which is nice. They're nearing three now.

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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 32723 troops, 365 guns, 247 vehicles, Assault Value = 961

Defending force 25473 troops, 299 guns, 195 vehicles, Assault Value = 686

Japanese adjusted assault: 504

Allied adjusted defense: 1507

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1283 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 120 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 19 (2 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
696 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 15 (2 destroyed, 13 disabled)

Assaulting units:
48th Division
16th Division
4th Tank Regiment
3rd Ind Engineer Regiment
Kure 1st SNLF
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Army
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
4th Marine Regiment
194th Tank Battalion
31st PA Infantry Division
14th PS Engineer Regiment
45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
2nd PA Constabulary Division
201st PA Construction Battalion
21st PA Infantry Division
I Philippine Corps
301st Construction Battalion
202nd PA Construction Battalion
Clark Field AAF Base Force
Far East USAAF
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
1st PI Base Force
803rd Aviation Engineer Battalion
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
301st PA Field Artillery Regiment

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Ground combat at Akyab (54,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6541 troops, 93 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 287

Defending force 2559 troops, 14 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 82

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 218

Allied adjusted defense: 19

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Akyab !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
315 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
892 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
55th Cavalry Regiment
112th Infantry Rgt /7
55th Engineer Regiment
143rd Infantry Rgt /6
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
4th JAAF Base Force

Defending units:
48th Gurkha Brigade

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Losses:

Loss of AVP Merel on Jan 19, 1942 is admitted

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Here is what we have to play with so far. Good for a week or so, but if he lands another 5-6 divisions ... ?
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 10:36:26 AM

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I'd even look at moving Yorktown somewhere that he doesn't know about once the minor float is knocked off. Forget getting any system off. You either move her soon, or wait a long time such that he thinks he missed her there. If you wait a long time, you risk getting sniffed out by aerial recon. I'd move her sooner. With 15 Sys, that's not so bad. I'd make a short hop to somewhere else to knock off a few more points, perhaps Tahiti, and then move for a shipyard. If you wait too long, I think you risk more subs getting into place and catching her on the way out. You could try using Sara to escort her, with every plane turned on to ASW.

PS - can you get the planes off at Penrhyn?

I think I can, but the damn Aikoku Maru took out my AKs so I have to wait for another groups of transports. At least a week.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 11:48:25 AM

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Most of those troops at Calcutta have sub-50 experience levels and will need to get over that number to be truly helpful. Mr Kane came at me this way with about 8 or 9 divisions in March '42 and my two Aussie with a few poor Indian divisions just got worn down. If Nic is coming at you with most of what he had in Malaya, I don't think you can stop him at Calcutta.

Slightly OT - I would go into your "Device/Squads" list and click "Y" to stockpile both type of "Garrison" troops. If not, then when your static LCUs retreat they will take in a static garrison squad and plant themselves in the middle of nowhere.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 3:21:30 PM

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IIRC a carrier can fly planes off, or dock and lift them off by crane. If a carrier is too damaged to lift them off then it has to dock. Port size might be a problem.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 3:26:24 PM

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Have you built any deeper defensive lines in India? I agree with Michael that if GJ brings everything you can�t stop him there. Don�t have the map in fresh memory but I recall building 2 defensive line N/NW of Calcutta in good terrain.

Be very careful with the British units. Their squads replacement rates are terrible. Lose a full ID and it will take months and months to fill it back up.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 4:29:49 PM

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I'd even look at moving Yorktown somewhere that he doesn't know about once the minor float is knocked off. Forget getting any system off. You either move her soon, or wait a long time such that he thinks he missed her there. If you wait a long time, you risk getting sniffed out by aerial recon. I'd move her sooner. With 15 Sys, that's not so bad. I'd make a short hop to somewhere else to knock off a few more points, perhaps Tahiti, and then move for a shipyard. If you wait too long, I think you risk more subs getting into place and catching her on the way out. You could try using Sara to escort her, with every plane turned on to ASW.

PS - can you get the planes off at Penrhyn?

There's all the factors you mention, but also the fact that defending Penryn consumes a big part of the present USN OOB. For one carrier which will be gone--at best--for pretty much all of 1942. The old "wounded consume three times their number of the healthy" guerrilla tactic.

Carriers are useful. They are valuable. They aren't worth using up so many forces the you are hamstrung everywhere else for months. And while Pearl may look close and juicy it's a bad, bad place to drive to in this era with a 5-6 knot big target.

As the Allies you have to get comfortable with the substantial advantages off-map gives you. And EC is the place to repair anything big the fastest possible.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 4:36:54 PM

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Most of those troops at Calcutta have sub-50 experience levels and will need to get over that number to be truly helpful. Mr Kane came at me this way with about 8 or 9 divisions in March '42 and my two Aussie with a few poor Indian divisions just got worn down. If Nic is coming at you with most of what he had in Malaya, I don't think you can stop him at Calcutta.

I agree. And look for a landing on any of the coastal bases to the west to cut the RR from Madras. India is a naval game, although a lot of players treat it as simple continental war. This is a place to sacrifice the pre-war cruisers if you have to. He's a long way from a yard.

Also, you must take a HARD look at garrison reqs in India. They are numerous, although most are not large. You don't have as much useable infantry and armor available to move as you might think. Under-garrisoning plays havoc with supply flow from Bombay and Karachi, your two main lifelines if Calcutta is invested.

You'll know soon if he plans to move deeper into India, but taking and holding Calcutta for six months is a nice HI point source, and he can certainly bring enough to take Calcutta right now.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 5:42:14 PM

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Most of those troops at Calcutta have sub-50 experience levels and will need to get over that number to be truly helpful. Mr Kane came at me this way with about 8 or 9 divisions in March '42 and my two Aussie with a few poor Indian divisions just got worn down. If Nic is coming at you with most of what he had in Malaya, I don't think you can stop him at Calcutta.

I agree. And look for a landing on any of the coastal bases to the west to cut the RR from Madras. India is a naval game, although a lot of players treat it as simple continental war. This is a place to sacrifice the pre-war cruisers if you have to. He's a long way from a yard.

Also, you must take a HARD look at garrison reqs in India. They are numerous, although most are not large. You don't have as much useable infantry and armor available to move as you might think. Under-garrisoning plays havoc with supply flow from Bombay and Karachi, your two main lifelines if Calcutta is invested.

You'll know soon if he plans to move deeper into India, but taking and holding Calcutta for six months is a nice HI point source, and he can certainly bring enough to take Calcutta right now.

Good points of course, and the experience is an issue. The thing I'm banking on here is if I can get the US air groups to India I may be able to hold air supremacy. I've already got the PI B-17s and I'll have about 4 fighter and three 2E groups in addition to the RAF if they can make the sea journey safely during the next two weeks. They're just arriving at Cape Town now.

For ground troops the Brits and Indians get a lot in the next few months as well, and if he's going to cut off Calcutta, it'll take longer to grab.

I could also just get out of dodge and leave it, but I trust the terrain to let the troops hold while experience builds and more flood in.

I've got most of the RN leaving for Cape Town to regroup, but I could turn some around before they get off-map. I just think that might be a waste of useful ships if he's got what now appears to be a decent mini-KB here with about 40 Kates, some Vals left and a good 60-70 zeros.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 5:45:54 PM

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Have you built any deeper defensive lines in India? I agree with Michael that if GJ brings everything you can�t stop him there. Don�t have the map in fresh memory but I recall building 2 defensive line N/NW of Calcutta in good terrain.

Be very careful with the British units. Their squads replacement rates are terrible. Lose a full ID and it will take months and months to fill it back up.

Since we're just over a month into the war I've only concentrated on making Calcutta a fortress, with smaller allocations to Madras, Bombay and karachi. Those are the only troops in the sub-continent right now other than static garrisons. Not much. A lot come sin the next two months, but I have to get it there, and if he blockades, with the CV situation as it is, there is no chance to break that.

So I feel now my best chance is to hold in good terrain and hope for the best in terms of air defense, commander and terrain rolls, and if I can get a few big defeats it could slow down the whole process.

Is this unwise? Is it better to pull it all back to Karachi and wait?

Seems like I'd be in the same boat but sooner if I chose not to defend Calcutta.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 5:47:47 PM

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I'd even look at moving Yorktown somewhere that he doesn't know about once the minor float is knocked off. Forget getting any system off. You either move her soon, or wait a long time such that he thinks he missed her there. If you wait a long time, you risk getting sniffed out by aerial recon. I'd move her sooner. With 15 Sys, that's not so bad. I'd make a short hop to somewhere else to knock off a few more points, perhaps Tahiti, and then move for a shipyard. If you wait too long, I think you risk more subs getting into place and catching her on the way out. You could try using Sara to escort her, with every plane turned on to ASW.

PS - can you get the planes off at Penrhyn?

There's all the factors you mention, but also the fact that defending Penryn consumes a big part of the present USN OOB. For one carrier which will be gone--at best--for pretty much all of 1942. The old "wounded consume three times their number of the healthy" guerrilla tactic.

Carriers are useful. They are valuable. They aren't worth using up so many forces the you are hamstrung everywhere else for months. And while Pearl may look close and juicy it's a bad, bad place to drive to in this era with a 5-6 knot big target.

As the Allies you have to get comfortable with the substantial advantages off-map gives you. And EC is the place to repair anything big the fastest possible.

Wil do if I can get it there. he's just expended another four TT on DD in the Penrhyn hex, so hopefully these will have to go to Truk soon and I can get York in shape to move before more arrive.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/4/2014 8:54:56 PM

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Have you built any deeper defensive lines in India? I agree with Michael that if GJ brings everything you can�t stop him there. Don�t have the map in fresh memory but I recall building 2 defensive line N/NW of Calcutta in good terrain.

Be very careful with the British units. Their squads replacement rates are terrible. Lose a full ID and it will take months and months to fill it back up.

Since we're just over a month into the war I've only concentrated on making Calcutta a fortress, with smaller allocations to Madras, Bombay and karachi. Those are the only troops in the sub-continent right now other than static garrisons. Not much. A lot come sin the next two months, but I have to get it there, and if he blockades, with the CV situation as it is, there is no chance to break that.

So I feel now my best chance is to hold in good terrain and hope for the best in terms of air defense, commander and terrain rolls, and if I can get a few big defeats it could slow down the whole process.

Is this unwise? Is it better to pull it all back to Karachi and wait?

Seems like I'd be in the same boat but sooner if I chose not to defend Calcutta.

I think you're right to hope for the best and just stick to good terrain, defensible places, etc.

Even if he takes Calcutta now, he can't hold it forever. It's a long, lonely sail from Singapore to Calcutta. He'll have some fuel available from Burma, but you'll be able to base out of Trincomalee or Madras (unless he takes those from you to). But basically, if he takes Calcutta - so what? I'm not sure you can stop him (though you should give it the ol' college try), and unless it threatens AV later it's nothing to worry about. It gets him some HI, sure, but I think Warmgr's game is a good example here - njp conquered most of India, but most of that is back in Allied hands by the end of 1942.

I also wouldn't look for him to defend both Calcutta and the South Pacific in major strength, so that gives you some options as well...

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/5/2014 5:16:41 AM

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Are the divisions landing at Diamond Harbor ones that were in Singapore? GreyJoy knows that to take India you have to capture Karachi and prevent reinforcements reaching the subcontinent. If the divisions he's landed at DH are from Singapore then I think you can rule out an early attempt at Karachi and the objective is to cut off Allied troops in Burma and benefit from whatever HI, fuel and supply he can gain for 6-8 months. I wouldn't neglect Karachi or Bombay just in case, with the emphasis on Karachi.

It will be interesting to see if he attempts a landing on Ceylon in an effort to secure his flank if the Calcutta region is indeed the objective.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/5/2014 10:38:51 AM

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I think you're right to hope for the best and just stick to good terrain, defensible places, etc.

Even if he takes Calcutta now, he can't hold it forever. It's a long, lonely sail from Singapore to Calcutta. He'll have some fuel available from Burma, but you'll be able to base out of Trincomalee or Madras (unless he takes those from you to). But basically, if he takes Calcutta - so what? I'm not sure you can stop him (though you should give it the ol' college try), and unless it threatens AV later it's nothing to worry about. It gets him some HI, sure, but I think Warmgr's game is a good example here - njp conquered most of India, but most of that is back in Allied hands by the end of 1942.

I also wouldn't look for him to defend both Calcutta and the South Pacific in major strength, so that gives you some options as well...

My .02.

The defenses of India come in the next few months in strength. GJ knows the OOB, and he may just be trying to take the Calcutta region for the economic benefit in the short term without a push for AV. Of course I cannot rule out AV so I have to attempt a defense with more than what comes to India in the usual reinforcements. I may need to get US ground forces there and fast.

The entire IJN is poised and in good position to rule the IO for some time. I think taking all of India has yet to be done in a PBEM unless I've missed something, but GJ is aggressive and knowledgeable in the area and he loves the dramatic move. I understand his psychology pretty well here and he could want to be the first to do it. He probably would be better off in the long run if he didn't, but that depends on if I can stop him as well.

I do see opportunities in the Pacific, especially No Pac now with all of the CVs occupied and early enough there isn't much else he could have up there.

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Are the divisions landing at Diamond Harbor ones that were in Singapore? GreyJoy knows that to take India you have to capture Karachi and prevent reinforcements reaching the subcontinent. If the divisions he's landed at DH are from Singapore then I think you can rule out an early attempt at Karachi and the objective is to cut off Allied troops in Burma and benefit from whatever HI, fuel and supply he can gain for 6-8 months. I wouldn't neglect Karachi or Bombay just in case, with the emphasis on Karachi.

It will be interesting to see if he attempts a landing on Ceylon in an effort to secure his flank if the Calcutta region is indeed the objective.

If that invasion fleet comes around Ceylon the first thing I'll do is throw everything now in Madras and Bombay into Karachi. I can't lose it and have any hope here.

If he goes all-in for India I'll have to do something bold as well, it seems. I'll start some units prepping for the Kuriles and Hokkaido now, just in case. Because Singers was such an unusual campaign due to the paradrop and split of the Brit forces, I don't know yet which forces were all there, but there were certaily more than this.

This is the list of what was at Singers during it's fall. Some are here, like the 33rd, 38th and 5th. Some are not yet at least. There are still ship offshore though, likely either waiting to land more units, air groups and/or lots of supply.

38th/B Division
33rd Division
15th Ind Engineer Regiment
18th Division
5th Division
38th/A Division
21st Division
1st Tank Regiment
38th/C Division
25th Army
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
34th Field AA Battalion
36th Field AA Battalion

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/5/2014 11:06:25 AM

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If you go after the Kuriles, go big or raid...grab several of the islands so you have an interlocking defense. It will be really tough to stay there, but it will definitely slow him down elsewhere. Realize that if you do invade, you will probably lose everyone so volunteers only!

Personally, I think it is a mistake to go there so early in force. You simply don't have the ability to project enough air power to win. Your supply lines are long...so the deck is I think stacked against you. Raids are another matter.

However, there is no doubt that you will distract Greyjoy! There have been some really good raids pulled off here by Bullwinkle, Mr. Kane, Bullwinkle and early invasion by Tiemanj.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/5/2014 12:57:40 PM

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If you go after the Kuriles, go big or raid...grab several of the islands so you have an interlocking defense. It will be really tough to stay there, but it will definitely slow him down elsewhere. Realize that if you do invade, you will probably lose everyone so volunteers only!

Personally, I think it is a mistake to go there so early in force. You simply don't have the ability to project enough air power to win. Your supply lines are long...so the deck is I think stacked against you. Raids are another matter.

However, there is no doubt that you will distract Greyjoy! There have been some really good raids pulled off here by Bullwinkle, Mr. Kane, Bullwinkle and early invasion by Tiemanj.

If he goes all-in for India I do have to distract, as you say, and a smaller op would be in order. If he's nearingAV though I have to go for points. High point targets will be prepped for and strategic areas will be targeted. Even early, if the KB isn't protecting against a raid in the DEI, and is blocking the passage to Karachi, I will use what CVs I can to hit oil and industry sooner rather than later.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/5/2014 1:40:37 PM

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12 Hexes I believe for SBDs to target industry from CVs for the next days attack. I meant to mention Lokasenna's raid earlier...not Bullwinkle twice.

Start practicing land bombing now!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/5/2014 3:52:33 PM

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12 Hexes I believe for SBDs to target industry from CVs for the next days attack. I meant to mention Lokasenna's raid earlier...not Bullwinkle twice.

Start practicing land bombing now!

It does appear to be 12 hexes, at least for SBD-3's. My hypothesis is that it's extended range (8) + 1 phase of cruise movement (4).

Also, isn't Karachi beyond the Indian Line of Death? If he goes for Karachi, he would trigger emergency reinforcements, correct?

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/5/2014 4:04:05 PM

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12 Hexes I believe for SBDs to target industry from CVs for the next days attack. I meant to mention Lokasenna's raid earlier...not Bullwinkle twice.

Start practicing land bombing now!

It does appear to be 12 hexes, at least for SBD-3's. My hypothesis is that it's extended range (8) + 1 phase of cruise movement (4).

Also, isn't Karachi beyond the Indian Line of Death? If he goes for Karachi, he would trigger emergency reinforcements, correct?

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/5/2014 4:24:45 PM

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12 Hexes I believe for SBDs to target industry from CVs for the next days attack. I meant to mention Lokasenna's raid earlier...not Bullwinkle twice.

Start practicing land bombing now!

It does appear to be 12 hexes, at least for SBD-3's. My hypothesis is that it's extended range (8) + 1 phase of cruise movement (4).

Also, isn't Karachi beyond the Indian Line of Death? If he goes for Karachi, he would trigger emergency reinforcements, correct?

Yes.

Yes. It would trigger. Lots of Spit VIII, which in our game even in mid-42 would be a problem for Japan. They don't lose against zeros or Oscars.

As for strat strike distance it will be a month or two before I could even put something together. I'd have to target Manpower too, but that would be fine at a few spots like Singers and Palembang.

It's still within escort range of zeros and Oscars so could be risky

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/5/2014 4:53:52 PM

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I think Karachi is important, because it will determine the extent of GreyJoy's India offensive. If he goes for Karachi then you know it's an all out attempt at India and possibly AV. If he doesn't, you know you have time to counter and can plan accordingly. Without an early grab of Karachi, I think it is safe to say India will hold and you can prevent AV by operations elsewhere. We just have to wait and see what Greyjoy has planned.

I'm not saying GreyJoy is playing for AV, but you can't count it out at this stage either.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/6/2014 5:56:03 AM

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In planning raids by carriers, you should calculate range of the aircraft + complete movement of the TF (as naval task forces move in the night phase and in the morning phase) - so a target distant 16 hexes could easily be attacked on the next turn (4+4 movement of TF + 8 hex for SBD)... However I would go for full bomb load - just find a suitable target and position that will keep you more distant from threats while allowing full strike against target.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/6/2014 6:27:18 PM

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In planning raids by carriers, you should calculate range of the aircraft + complete movement of the TF (as naval task forces move in the night phase and in the morning phase) - so a target distant 16 hexes could easily be attacked on the next turn (4+4 movement of TF + 8 hex for SBD)... However I would go for full bomb load - just find a suitable target and position that will keep you more distant from threats while allowing full strike against target.

With a flank run it should be even farther out right?

With the long range of IJN flying boats it'll be tough to sneak up, especially now that GJ has gone for Cocos. At least for now though the Northern approaches to the HI are still tough to patrol effectively.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/6/2014 8:36:20 PM

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Jan 20 - 22, 1942
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SUBS: Truant sinks a Toho class xAK near Akyab.

The RO-33 sinks an xAKL near Koggala. The I-160 hits and xAKL near Diego Garcia.

The I-16, I-22, SS I-168 and I-24 are hanging around Penrhyn. The RO-33 may also be on the way.

INDIA: The aerial defenders of Cacutta take the brunt of Tainan Ku S-1 sweeps and while they suffer they also take out a few quality pilots. On the 21st I decided to sweep Diamond Harbor after it fell and got decent results, about 1:1.5 against zeros and Oscars. They wore out at Calcutta on the 22nd and got only 1:2 for the day, but still again hit some likely valuable pilots in the process. Everything is moved back for tomorrow. The AA will have to take over now for a few days.

GJ para-drops three bases around Calcutta but there is still an open rail line for now to the city, and it has 72k supplies, so it won't be hurting for a while. i actually think the paradrops were unneccesary here, as I now have a target for smaller units, and if he flies troops in that is fewer that will be used at Calcutta. I can send in a small 250AV division and an armor unit to a clear hex taken by 6AV of para forces. So in the week it takes my forces to arrive I doubt more than a regiment can be flown in. This spot is 3-4 hexes from Calcutta itself and I will also be able to LR CAP it soon. It's getting interesting!

Pacific: After getting the Yorltown to Penryn the minor damage is repairing quickly. There are only a few more points to go, but the system hasn't gone down at all. There are still at least three subs in the area. I'll try a bit of a ruse soon to see what I can lure away. I'll set a big xAK to move two hexes a day surrounded by 10+ ASW with good air search, and see if I can't get the subs to bite. If they waste their torps on that one then maybe I can make a run in the opposite direction with the York a few days later. Support ships are moving to Christmas Island to refuel and reload the combat ships and an AO is heading to Tahiti. All of this prompted me to start looking at distances from place to place. I'l post findings soon.

CHINA: A sync bug struck with a ground combat in China. My result was the Chinese force sneaking into Ankang and taking the base with a 6:1 and forcing an IJA retreat. The actual result had a 3:1 with about even casualties and not taking the base, but lowering forts to 2. I decided to go again, on the very slim odds the other arriving Japanese units would be either slowed by our bombing or simply would not make it. They did, and the Chinese got a 1:3. Not great.

At Pingsiang though, the defenders do well again, keeping the three forts and inflicting 2x casualties on the IJA. This spot has gone well so far, but there is a line of Japanese units waiting to get in here and give it their best.

DEI: I'm bugging out with the subs for now to Colombo. I think they can do better over where there will be less interference from air search and deeper water to run in from.

The FP groups did well again, hitting an unprotected convoy on the East side of Borneo and likely sinking an xAK while setting another on fire.

SIGINT: Rare, and very useful.

a Zuiho class CVL is moving to 47,42.

Also helpful. More is coming, but not to Colombo or Karachi, yet.

10/18th Division is loaded on a Japanese CM moving to Diamond Harbour.
1/18th Division is loaded on AK Kaga Maru moving to Diamond Harbour.
2/27th Ind Engineer Regiment is loaded on xAK Wales Maru moving to Diamond Harbour.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR January 20, 42
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Morning Air attack on Calcutta , at 52,37

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21

Allied aircraft
I-16-III x 2
H81-A3 x 11
Buffalo I x 15
Hurricane IIb Trop x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

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Ground combat at Diamond Harbour (52,38)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40587 troops, 461 guns, 244 vehicles, Assault Value = 1255

Defending force 4331 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 805

Allied adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 402 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Diamond Harbour !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
5976 casualties reported
Squads: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 478 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 24 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 47 (47 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
5th Division
38th Division
33rd Division
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
26th Fld AA Gun Co
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
30th Fld AA Gun Co
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
34th Field AA Battalion
5th Field Construction Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
51st Field AA Battalion
47th Field AA Battalion
20th AA Regiment
39th Field Const Co
6th Field Construction Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
35th Field AA Battalion
31st Fld AA Gun Co
40th Field AA Battalion
45th Field AA Battalion
302nd Ship Eng Coy

Defending units:
Diamond Harbour Fortress

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR January 21, 42
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Morning Air attack on Diamond Harbour , at 52,38

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 25

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Diamond Harbour , at 52,38

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Diamond Harbour , at 52,38

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
I-16-III x 3
Buffalo I x 4
Hurricane IIb Trop x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
I-16-III: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sampit at 58,97

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
SOC-1 Seagull x 5

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Teisen Maru, Bomb hits 1
xAK Iwaki Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x SOC-1 Seagull bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

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SYNC BUG RESULT!!!!

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Ground combat at Anking (88,52)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13222 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 397

Defending force 4574 troops, 16 guns, 113 vehicles, Assault Value = 209

Allied adjusted assault: 487

Japanese adjusted defense: 72

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Anking !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1132 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 46 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 39 (36 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
552 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 68 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
7th Chinese Corps
84th Chinese Corps
21st Group Army

Defending units:
13th Tank Regiment
26th Recon Regiment
13th RGC Temp. Division

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR January 22, 42
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Morning Air attack on Calcutta , at 52,37

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 4
Buffalo I x 10
Hurricane IIb Trop x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

Morning Air attack on Calcutta , at 52,37

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 2
Buffalo I x 5
Hurricane IIb Trop x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Asansol , at 53,34

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

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Ground combat at Pingsiang (82,54)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40169 troops, 408 guns, 202 vehicles, Assault Value = 1130

Defending force 37316 troops, 216 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1003

Japanese adjusted assault: 759

Allied adjusted defense: 791

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2495 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 147 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled

Allied ground losses:
757 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 80 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
22nd Division
8th Armored Car Co
116th Division
2nd Ind Engineer Regiment
15th Division
23rd Tank Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Army
4th Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
26th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
9th Prov Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps

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Reinforcements: I might stash the 'R' class BBs at Abadan for a bit to see if anything happens near Karachi. Another brigade for the Aussie division. The last is in about a week.

BB Resolution arrives at Cape Town
BB Royal Sovereign arrives at Aden
16th Australian Brigade arrives at Aden

Losses:

Loss of AMc Agra on Jan 21, 1942 is admitted
Loss of AMc Calcutta on Jan 21, 1942 is admitted
Loss of AMc Alor on Jan 21, 1942 is admitted
Loss of HDML P 5 on Jan 21, 1942 is admitted
Loss of HDML P 6 on Jan 21, 1942 is admitted
Loss of HDML 1100 on Jan 21, 1942 is admitted
Loss of HDML 1101 on Jan 21, 1942 is admitted
Loss of HDML 1102 on Jan 21, 1942 is admitted
Loss of HDML 1103 on Jan 21, 1942 is admitted
Loss of HDML 1104 on Jan 21, 1942 is admitted

Ships Sunk:

xAK Sansei Maru is reported to have been sunk near Akyab on Jan 20, 1942
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/6/2014 8:43:32 PM

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So, here is something I have been needing. It's not yet complete, but it's a good start. Thought I'd share. I'm going to use Cape Town a lot, and I might even store some combat ships at Abadan in case an invasion ever goes toward Karachi. Mainly though I really wanted to know distances from the off map arrival bases to gauge where and when to add protection to the routes and to figure out when stuff will get there more effectively.

I also tried sending a unit without loading it on a TF from East Coast to Cape Town, and it seems that takes slightly longer. I think 42 days to arrive.

CAPE TOWN > EAST COAST = 170 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 14 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 18 days
14-16 knots (7hexes/day) = 25 days
12 knots (6hexes/day) = 29 days

CAPE TOWN > UK = 152 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 12 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 16 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 22 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 26 days

CAPE TOWN > KARACHI = 140 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 11 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 14 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 20 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 24 days

CAPETOWN > DIEGO GARCIA = 86 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 7 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 9 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 13 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 15 days

CAPETOWN > COLOMBO = 109 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 9 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 11 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 16 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 19 days

CAPETOWN > PERTH = 139 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 11 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 14 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 20 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 24 days

CAPETOWN > COCOS = 100 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 8 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 10 days
14 knots (7hexes/day) = 15 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 17 days

ADEN > KARACHI = 39 hexes (40 coastal routing)

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 3 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 4 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 6 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 7 days

ABADAN > KARACHI = 28 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 2.5 days (2 days at flank)
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 3 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 4 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 5 days

BALBOA > SD = 78 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 6 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 8 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 12 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 13 days

BALBOA > EAST COAST = 60 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 5 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 6 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 9 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 10 days

BALBOA > CAPE TOWN = 176 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 14 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 18 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 26 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 30 days

For the specific Yorktown problem ... if I can get her up to 3 hexes a day, Pearl is looking inviting. I'd still try to create a deceptive TF heading to Tahiti and/or Balboa. Only 18 days is pretty good compared to the other options, especially if I have to fight subs the entire way back to any of them. More APDs will be done converting soon as well, to add into the better ASW escorts for her.

PENRHYN > BALBOA = 118 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 10 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 12 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 17 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 20 days

6 knots (3 hexes/day) = 40 days
4 knots (2 hexes/day) = 59 days

PENRHYN > PEARL HARBOR = 52 hexes

32 knots (13 hexes/day) = 4 days
20 knots (10 hexes/day) = 6 days
14 knots (7 hexes/day) = 8 days
12 knots (6 hexes/day) = 9 days

6 knots (3 hexes/day) = 18 days
4 knots (2 hexes/day) = 26 days

< Message edited by obvert -- 5/7/2014 1:25:56 AM >

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 5/6/2014 8:49:14 PM

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So Nic sent three divisions crashing into Calcutta, and apparently in this map version the movement from Diamond Harbor to Calcutta crosses a river and triggers a shock attack!!

He was surprised, as am I. It certainly doesn't look like that on the map, but he said it does show it on the unit page. He asked for a redo and I think that's fine. Neither of us knew, so no harm done. He says he'll add three more divisions and go in with six altogether in three days!!! Wow. It's going to be a stressful few days waiting for that one. One good thing is there is a slight chance to get forts to level 4 over that time. They are at 3.27 now and there are about 220+ engineer equivalents in the base. I'm sure he'll begin bombing though now!

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