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BVR Combat Rating - 8/29/2014 7:37:40 AM

JSF

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Stumbled over this one:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BVR_combat_rating_against_Upgraded_Su-27_Flanker_%28Full%29.PNG

Any opinions if this is valid?

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RE: BVR Combat Rating - 8/29/2014 10:21:29 AM

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The description says it was made by Eurofighter, and it coincidentally happens to make their fighter the second best after the specifically export-forbidden F-22. Hmmm....

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RE: BVR Combat Rating - 8/29/2014 11:01:22 AM

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Debunked long ago. IICR Bill Sweetman held their feet to the fire over this.

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RE: BVR Combat Rating - 8/29/2014 11:41:09 AM

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I see. Are there some neutral comparisons of BVR abilities around?

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RE: BVR Combat Rating - 8/29/2014 3:59:12 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JSF

I see. Are there some neutral comparisons of BVR abilities around?

Way too contingent on specific situations. Is your hypothetical Su-35 a Russian plane backed by A-50s and a ton of ground radars, and crewed by handpicked pilots, or is it an oilocracy's toy with no supporting elements and a pilot chosen because he won't escape or bomb the palace? Is the attacker's plane a Top Gun backed by its own AWACS, or is it too a toy? How important is target indentification? Etc...

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RE: BVR Combat Rating - 8/29/2014 5:18:20 PM

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Ok. So it was rather naive to think that there are valid statistics, based on simulations, which lead to clear results.

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RE: BVR Combat Rating - 9/1/2014 12:32:56 AM

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You may check this:

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Flanker-Radars.html

lots of interesting stuff and basically not so far from your chart. Ofc, not counting mega super EF ;)

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