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2.02: misaligned outlines - 8/30/2014 8:28:18 AM   
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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 8/30/2014 11:27:07 AM   
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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 8/30/2014 1:15:36 PM   
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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 8/30/2014 8:49:35 PM   
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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 8/30/2014 10:38:31 PM   
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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 8/31/2014 9:00:18 AM   
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That is weird, because I don't see this in my EF or WF when looking through the scenario editor. Checked about 3 files in each.

Which scenario in EF did you see this?

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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 8/31/2014 11:13:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		A deadly meet. I checked Red Steel at Fedorovka and the pziv's are fine in that scen, and then just for kicks tried a scen in WF and the outlines are fine too. Perhaps it is scenario specific or possibly related to the pz iv graphic, this one is just green whereas the others I have looked have brown in the camo graphic as well.

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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 8/31/2014 12:01:43 PM   
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I was looking at 4 full strength point platoons. These are 3 full strength point platoons in "A Deadly Meet".

Odd that it would be strength point based!? I thought the graphic was the same, maybe its not.
Good catch Chris!
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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 8/31/2014 3:52:59 PM   
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Only in a few cases, as the Panzer IV above.

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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 8/31/2014 4:10:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's a separate entry for each of a SP1-6 PzIVH platoons:

quote:

P01967 1 7 7 35 0 0 38 16 25 2 4 1 11 0 1 6 8 P01967 6 33 16 1 0 15 42 8 53 12 7 3 3 PzKpfw IVH Medium Tanks , Pz IVH ,
P01664 2 7 7 35 0 0 38 16 25 2 4 1 11 0 1 6 8 P01664 6 33 16 1 0 15 42 8 53 12 7 3 3 PzKpfw IVH Medium Tanks , Pz IVH ,
P01973 3 7 7 35 0 0 38 16 25 2 4 1 11 0 1 6 8 P01973 6 33 16 1 0 15 42 8 53 12 7 3 3 PzKpfw IVH Medium Tanks , Pz IVH ,
P01017 4 7 7 35 0 0 38 16 25 2 4 1 11 0 1 6 8 P01017 6 33 16 1 0 15 42 8 53 12 7 3 3 PzKpfw IVH Medium Tanks , Pz IVH ,
P01665 5 7 7 35 0 0 38 16 25 2 4 1 11 0 1 6 8 P01665 6 33 16 1 0 15 42 8 53 12 7 3 3 PzKpfw IVH Medium Tanks , Pz IVH ,


The Unit ID entry in the middle specifies the respective bitmap for that unit, so for the SP3 PzIVH it is Up01973.bmp (3d graphics) and *.bit (outline file).

We will put a proper outline file to 2.1 UPDATE but since that is not coming for a while we'll think of alternative ways of patching up these little things. Good catch, thank you!



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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/1/2014 8:46:23 AM   
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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/6/2014 1:19:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Speaking of outlines, here is another. East Front E-UP01054. Flak panzer IV/37 Möbelwagen.




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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/6/2014 2:05:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		It also appears in game that the movement animation for E-UP01054 is messed up a bit corresponding with the outline problem.

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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/6/2014 3:04:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am not seeing this on my install. I tried EF. Is it EF or WF where you're seeing the Flakpanzer glitch?

I was able to reproduce the SP3 PzIVH glitch though as below. All other PzIVHs were OK.




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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/6/2014 7:32:44 PM   
Tidavis


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Status: offline 		That's the normal UP01054. The messed up one is E-UP01054. It's the early version that's not used before 0743 I think.

Notice mine is in Panzer Gray and yours is in Panzer Yellow.

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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/7/2014 5:33:18 AM   
Crossroads


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Status: offline 		Thanks Tidavis. I believe there should not be any outline BIT files in the /Specials folder though, the Early/Late/Winter camo versions of the bitmap should be the same graphic as such, as they all share the one BIT file. Only colours should differ.

Interesting, will check later today.

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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/7/2014 11:04:44 AM   
Tidavis


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Status: offline 		It's not the bit file and thanks for the confirmation that the bit file is the outline. A question I have been meaning to ask but haven't gotten around to yet.

It's the actual bmp file that is messed up a bit(Hey I made a pun) The sw and nw facings of the early versions are mirrored giving the impression of an outline problem.




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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/7/2014 11:19:32 AM   
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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/7/2014 12:11:06 PM   
Tidavis


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Status: offline 		I have a fixed E-Up01054 available for anyone who is interested. Just let me know. Would it be possible to get .bmp or zip files supported for upload?

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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/7/2014 3:43:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tidavis

I have a fixed E-Up01054 available for anyone who is interested. Just let me know. Would it be possible to get .bmp or zip files supported for upload?


I am afraid the forum is a bit restrictive on that. You can rename the file from *.bmp into *.jpg (not saving into jpeg mind you, just renaming the file), then upload it here. Then put the reminder into your post saying the downloaded *.jpg needs to be renamed into *.bmp.



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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/7/2014 6:03:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Doesn't work for me. I can rename it then it just goes to *.*.bmp.jpg. Still won't upload. No biggie.

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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/7/2014 6:58:20 PM   
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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/8/2014 12:10:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		And here is the file. Been so long since I played with a command line I had to look up the exact command to rename a file.

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By the way remane the file back to .bmp

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RE: 2.02: misaligned outlines - 9/8/2014 7:02:51 PM   
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