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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/25/2014 1:11:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's true, but with this picture I only wanted to show that the bird has the capability to use more than nine hardpoints. Just change the Meteors to MICAs or think of it as a 2019 variant when Meteor is available.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/25/2014 3:47:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		@ Jan Masterson You seem to have a lot of info/knowledge about all sorts of aircraft, do you have anything on the IRST of Su-27/Mig-29 variants? I'am not sure if they work right here, afaik they can detect only, and not ID like a TGP.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/25/2014 4:38:03 AM   
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Add Amraams for stations 2 and 8, they can carry 8 without and 7 with targeting pod/ATFLIR.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/4/4/3/0670344.jpg

http://www.ausairpower.net/USN/000-Super-Bug-loadout.jpg

According to this pic they could carry 4 more with only 1 centerline fueltank, but it's questionable whether they would use such a loadout operationally.



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/25/2014 7:05:43 AM   
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@ Jan Masterson You seem to have a lot of info/knowledge about all sorts of aircraft, do you have anything on the IRST of Su-27/Mig-29 variants? I'am not sure if they work right here, afaik they can detect only, and not ID like a TGP.


MR_BURNS2 I wish I had a lot of knowledge, I only have decent sources.

Now regarding the Russian optronic system you mentioned, it seems to be a combined IRST/Laser Range Finder/HMCS. Designation are quite confusing (due to Cyrillic transliteration I guess), the whole targeting system's designation on Mig-29 would be OEPS-29 and OLS-27 on Su-27. As far as I can get, first generation MiG29 (before M version)hadn't TV channels nor a capable display (only a monochrome CRT display where all tracks are merged, and that was back in the '90!) so I would say that you are right up to that point.

Here's a MiG enthusiast's testimony:
"The primary sensor in the close-in fight is the IRST, which can detect, locate, and track a target from its IR signature, and which can direct the seeker-heads of the IR-homing R-73 missiles towards the target. At short BVR ranges, the IRST can function as a passive target detection system, freeing the pilot from reliance on his radar."
"Jane's MIG-29: At the Controls" (1998), Jon Lake, ISBN: 978-0004721446

Su-27's system is said to provide same feature, simply with extended range and angle, while it's bigger and heavier.

Now the OEPS-29M (on the MiG-29M, you get it) does have a TV channel too. ("Mig-29 Evolution" (2007), Andrey Formin, AirForces Monthly #226.)



Not sure about its abilities though. Yefim Gordon write about long-range target identification up to 6km with MiG-29M/K's OSL-M TV channel but that should be viewed with all due caution to Mr. Gordon's work, as he does have quite a reputation of being... creative (ask Tom Cooper, just for fun).
"Mikoyan MiG-29, Famous Russian Aircraft" (2006), Yefim Gordon, ISBN: 978-1857802313.

From DCS simulator:
"The OEPS-27 electro-optical sighting system consist of the OLS-27 infrared/laser search-and-track system (IRST) and the Shchel-3UM helmet-mounted target designator and is controlled by the Ts-100 digital computer. The OLS-27 sensor is placed forward of the cockpit canopy in the centre. The system acquires and tracks aerial targets by their thermal signatures. The helmet-mounted sight and the laser range finder of the IRST can also be used to visually acquire and determine coordinates of air and surface targets."
http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/products/flanker/

Hope it helps.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/25/2014 12:31:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Please can you update the Royal Navy Type 26 GCS to include a 24 cell VLS Mk41 as per this document:

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/defence/141009_SoS_re_Type_26_Global_Combat_Ship.pdf

It looks like it is going to have a combination of Tomahawk, RUM-139 and Harpoon/LSRAM

Thanks.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/26/2014 4:07:25 AM   
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/26/2014 2:45:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		#182 - Hawk 208 Malaysia AF Hawk 208 appear to have refueling probes, and AIM-9M, too.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/26/2014 7:43:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I’ve a question regarding a US Navy boat called “Mark V Special Operations Craft”.

In DB there is this entry:
#321 – US Mk5 Pegasus PB – United States (Navy), 2003
Ether it’s a different boat or it needs to be updated including the picture and title.
Is it possible to make the Mark V Special Operations Craft as a docking boat so it can be carried by other ships?

Many thanks
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/27/2014 11:31:30 AM   
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UK F-35B has test carried the Paveway IV (http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataWeapon?ID=519) Can we get this added as a loadout? I imagine that it would have a similar load out to the USMC F-35B (http://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=534) ie, two internal only, two internal long range and six external.

Thanks.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/28/2014 4:16:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good source on Rafale M latest batch (with AESA)
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/2563/LXQV5v.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/3839/nAEnDT.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img661/8134/4jckUx.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img912/879/zKuFCS.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/9435/Fg98rD.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img912/6991/KJpcFL.jpg

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/28/2014 4:28:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you navyrecognition. I guess author is Henri-Pierre Grolleau? It's almost a literal translation of his article in November Air Fan issue.

PS: he is: http://shop.keypublishing.com/issue/View/issue/AI876 ( I didn't recognize the logo on your pics :/)

Still some details I want to sort out before I post my suggestions btw.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 11/29/2014 3:02:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure the procedure and thus apologize in advance (especially if it doesn't qualify), but is there any way to request that a unit be added to this database?

The A-3 Skywarrior had a long career and was retired in 1991. It was apparently the US Navy's best carrier-based tanker (the KA-3B or EKA-3B, the unit I specifically seek).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_A-3_Skywarrior#Specifications_.28A3D-2.2FA-3B_Skywarrior.29
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ka-3b.htm

Thanks!

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/29/2014 2:35:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		#1008 R08 Queen Elizabeth currently has "Aircraft carrier catapult" and "Aircraft carrier arresting gear" ingame, instead of these it should have Ski Jump.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/29/2014 6:37:24 PM   
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#1008 R08 Queen Elizabeth has "Aircraft carrier catapult" and "Aircraft carrier arresting gear", instead of these it should have Ski Jump.


Also that same ship has the Aster-16 missiles when it doesn't appear to have any SAMs.

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/29/2014 11:27:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		#312 #717 #2519 #2520 La Fayette Frigate (France) should have 8-cell Crotale launcher. At the moment it has a 4-cell launcher ingame.
La Fayette
La Fayette

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/30/2014 5:10:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Minor DB issue in DB3000: JP.233 (Weapon_223) is listed as being an anti-runway weapon. While it was designed primarily for anti-runway use, it did so by using a shaped charge to blow a small a hole in the runway and inserting an explosive charge to form a difficult-to-repair void under the tarmac. Accordingly, it could be used against any target that is similar to a runway, such as rail marshalling yards or permanent supply depots.

http://www.wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?6448-JP-233-runway-denial-system-SG-357-runway-cratering-bomb-HB-876-area-denial-mine

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 11/30/2014 8:52:34 PM   
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 12/1/2014 9:20:17 AM   
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Hi there,

here's my take on Rafale family.

Please note that sources are scarce, more than usual, and not much detailed. That is to say that I'll probably be proved wrong, and I hope so!, once reliable data will be published (I wouldn't hold my breath though) and what you have here are my best, somehwat educated, guesses.

Sources:

- "Guerre aérienne en Libye" (2011), Jean-Marc Tanguy, Raids Hors-Série n°40.
- "Harmattan : Récits et Révélations" (2012), Jean-Marc Tanguy, ISBN 978-2915243451.
- "La révolution Rafale" (2003), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Marines & Forces Navales Hors-Série n°7.
- "Le guide des avions de combat" (2012), Guillaume Steuer, Air & Cosmos Hors-Série n°21.
- "Le porte-avions Charles-de-Gaulle & Son groupe aérien embarqué", Jean-Michel Guhl, ISBN: 978-2912838278.
- "Le Rafale au combat" (2012), Guillaume Steuer & Guillaume Lecompte-Boinet, Air & Cosmos Hors-Série n°21.
- "Les avions de combat en action" (2004), Frédéric Lert, Raids Hors-Série n°15.
- "Les défis du Rafale, ses derniers exploits" (2012), Guillaume Steuer & Guillaume Lecompte-Boinet, Air & Cosmos Hors-Série n°23.
- "Rafale, Chasseur Omnirôle" (2014), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Supplément au AirFan n°431 octobre 2014.
- "Secrets des Forces Aériennes Stratégiques" (2013), Emmanuel Huberdeau, Air & Cosmos Hors-Série n°27.
- Fox Three magazine http://www.defense-aerospace.com/dae/sponsors/sponsor_rafale/
- Jane's All the World's Aircraft 2004-2005.
- http://forum.aviationsmilitaires.net/
- http://rafalefan.e-monsite.com/
- http://rafalenews.blogspot.be/
- http://sistemasdearmas.com.br/
- http://www.anciens-cols-bleus.net/
- http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/12/budget/plf2005/a1867-08.asp
- http://www.aviation-francaise.com/
- http://www.checksix-forums.com/ Various fine people actually in the forces.
- http://www.dassault-aviation.com
- http://www.defesanet.com.br/
- http://www.ffaa.net/
- http://www.mbda-systems.com/
- http://www.netmarine.net/bat/porteavi/cdg/hist2002.htm
- http://www.news.admin.ch/NSBSubscriber/message/attachments/25029.pdf
- http://www.performance-publique.budget.gouv.fr/sites/performance_publique/files/farandole/ressources/2007/pap/html/DBGPGMJPEPGM146.htm
- http://www.portail-aviation.com/
- http://www.rafale-schweiz.ch/images/stories/pdf/Rafale_Technical_F.pdf
- http://www.snecma.com/-military-engines-.html
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVah8EeJezI

+ specific sources, see below.


  • #1878 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk1 -- 1986
  • #242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2 -- 1997
    It CanActAsSensor. (Mirage 2000D crews sometimes use it to find their tanker, cf. - "La Guerre Vue du Ciel" (2013), Lieutenant-colonel Marc "Claudia" Scheffler & Frédéric Lert, ISBN: 978-2915243567).

  • #1873 - MICA IR
    It CanActAsSensor.
    - http://www.defesanet.com.br/rafale/noticia/10893/Shooting-Down-an-Aggressor-on-My-Six--Vive-la-difference-/
    - http://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/defense/rafale/the-sheer-power-of-multisensor-data-fusion/
    Its minimum range is 0.27 nm (500 m, from Jane's Air-Launched Weapons 2002).


  • #258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II -- 1995
    Date: is 1994
    You may have heard about the Block 2 Mod2 upgrade and the Brazilian "new motor". As far as I know, the upgrade focused on improving the ECCM and the Brazilian connection simply is a local made engine, identical to French one, for missiles used by Brazilian forces. Thus, since we don't have further details for now, a new entry would only be cosmetic. Up to you.
    - http://www.senat.fr/rap/a12-150-8/a12-150-81.pdf
    - http://www.defesanet.com.br/laad2011/noticia/714/LAAD-Bastidores-1---Marinha-Adquire-o-EXOCET-AM39-Block-2-Mod-2/
    - "Dassault Super Étendard - Les Matériels de l'armée de l'Air et de l'Aéronavale n°10" (2010), Frédéric Lert, ISBN 978-2-35250-175-6.

  • #333 - SCALP EG
    Surface Max Range: is 216 nm (400 km)
    - "Jane’s Strategic Weapon Systems" (2005)
    - http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/decouverte/equipements-moyens-materiel-militaire/missiles/missiles-air-surface

  • #2903 - RBE-2 PESA
  • #4372 - RBE-2AA AESA

    Name is "RBE2-PESA" for #2903 and "RBE2-AEASA" for #4372.
    - https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwide/defence/active-electronically-scanned-array-aesa-rbe2-radar
    Along to what's already in the DB, their air-to-ground mode feature:
    "automatic Terrain-Following/Terrain-Avoidance/Threat-Avoidance (TF/TA2)" and "high-resolution mapping".
    - "Jane's Radar and Electronic Warfare Systems" 2003.
    The air-to-air mode also feature:
    "Non-Cooperative Target Recognition (NCTR)", it can track 40 targets simultaneously and engage 8.
    - http://www.aviationtoday.com/av/issue/cover/Serious-Squall_32315.html#.VHb_tZ6Ai3Q
    RBE2-AEASA (#4372) is supposed to have a 40% range increase and 10° larger coverage each side (from 120° to 140°).
    - "Rafale, Chasseur Omnirôle" (2014), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Supplément au AirFan n°431 octobre 2014.
    - https://www.thalesgroup.com/sites/default/files/asset/document/aesa_rbe2_5_juin_val_def_bat_ok.pdf


  • #2252 - DDM-NG -- 2013
    It could also act as an IRST ala F-35's AN/AAQ-37 EO-DAS.
    - http://www.portail-aviation.com/2014/02/exclusif-le-ddm-ng-un-detecteur-de_8513.html
    - http://www.defesanet.com.br/rafale/noticia/10893/Shooting-Down-an-Aggressor-on-My-Six--Vive-la-difference-/
    I thus suggest to clone #2509 - AN/AAQ-37 EO-DAS and name it "DDM-NG", then add it to:
    #3642 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2014-0, F03
    #3643 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2019-0, F03
    #2788 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2014-0, F03
    #3230 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2019-0, F03
    #2789 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2014-0, F03
    #3231 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2019-0, F03

  • #478 - SBU-38 AASM/D [Hammer, Mk82, GPS-Only] -- 2006
  • #1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR] -- 2014+
  • #2596 - SBU-64 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + SALH] -- 2011
    Date: #478 is 2007, #1603 is 2009, #2596 is 2013.
    - http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/equipement/missiles-et-drones/l-aasm-armement-air-sol-modulaire
    - http://www.air-cosmos.com/2014/10/24/26289-irak-premiere-utilisation-de-la-bombe-aasm-maj
    - http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/frances-aasm-precision-guided-bombs-06200/


    Now that we are warmed up, let's deal with the Rafale itself. First with changes to be applied on all version, then changes specific to each version and eventually platform specific changes.



  • #3639 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
  • #3640 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
  • #3641 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2011, F03
  • #3642 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
  • #3643 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03
  • #1749 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
  • #560 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
  • #2344 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2011-0, F03
  • #2788 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
  • #3230 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03
  • #1179 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2002, F01.1
  • #2084 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2004, F01.1
  • #35 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2009, F03
  • #2345 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2011, F03
  • #2789 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2014, F03
  • #3231 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2019, F03


    Sensors: add #2241 - AN/AVS-9 Night Vision Goggles
    - http://www.defense.gouv.fr/content/download/133251/1316591/file/JVN.pdf

    Stores/Loadouts:
    - delete from all Rafale's stores and loadouts:
    #1892 - AS.30L
    #1033 - BAP.100 Anti-Runway
    #1561 - BAT.120 Anti-Armour
    #416 - BANG 125kg GPB
    #415 - BANG 250kg GPB
    #2061 - GBU-49/B Paveway II GPS/LGB [Mk82] (cleared but not operational yet, leave it on "2019" platforms)
    #871 - GBU-24A/B Paveway III LGB [BLU-109/B] (cleared but not operational yet, leave it on "2019" platforms)
    #1533 - 1700 liter Drop Tank

    - edit all "CAP" loadouts to have 2 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank and no other DT. (these DT, "RPL-711" in French parlance, are able to sustain supersonic speed while 2000 liters one, aka "RPL-751" are not. 3 DT loadouts have yet to be seen on Rafale M, and not talking about test sessions.)

    Properties:
    - add "Supermanouverability (5th Gen Fighters)". While it doesn't have vectored thrust, it's post stall maneuvering capabilities have been publicly demonstrated quite a lot so I think it does qualify. In anyway, if EF2000 Eurofighter Typhoon does for whatever reason (as it is in DB3K), then Rafale should too.
    - Add "Terrain Following (Land: 200ft (60.9m), Sea: 100ft (30.5m))". (Couldn't figure out when exactly it

    Propulsion:
    Engine name: SNECMA M88-2
    Specific fuel flow with full AB: 1.77 (was 2 kg/h/kg).
    - "Turbofan and Turbojet Engines: database handbook" (2007), Élodie Roux, ISBN 978-2-9529380-1-3.


    (Note: we are now getting at a somewhat trivial issue that almost gave me headache. I wanted to figure the mass of each subversion but faced a wall because such intels are classified, not joking. Then I lowered my ambition and gone for a decent estimation for all variants but faced lots of discrepancies among sources so I eventually choose to go with official figures which are quite generic but still are... official.)


  • #3639 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
  • #3640 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
  • #3641 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2011, F03
  • #3642 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
  • #3643 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03

    Empty Weight: 9786 (was 9500).
    http://www.defense.gouv.fr/layout/set/popup/content/download/14076/127626/file/cahier_2.pdf
    Fuel: 4 450 kg (Capitaine Cedric Ruet)


  • #1749 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
  • #560 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
  • #2344 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2011-0, F03
  • #2788 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
  • #3230 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03

    Empty Weight: 9566 (was 9500).
    http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/equipement/aeronautique/le-rafale

    (10 196 kg is confirmed for M version: http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/decouverte/equipements-moyens-materiel-militaire/aeronefs/rafale-marine/)

  • #1179 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2002, F01.1
    Date: is 2001 to 2002 included.
    Name: change "F01.1" to "LF1".
    Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
    Mounts:
    - delete 1 x 30mm Giat 30/M791B gun (that early version had no gun fitted)
    - delete 1xMLPx2 (that early version had no chaff launcher fitted)
    Stores:
    - delete #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and #1872 - MICA EM.
    Loadouts:
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP" and "A/A: MICA, Standard CAP" loadouts.
    - create a new loadout with 2 x and 2 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank.
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank.
    Comms: Delete "MICA Command Datalink" and "Link 16 JTIDS".

    What's the point to have such a limited Rafale in the DB? Well, it was aboard Charles-de-Gaulle CVN, aka PACDG, during Héraclès mission in 2001-2002 and may have performed some CAP along Pakistan/Indian border during the May-June tensions.


  • #2084 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2004, F01.1
    Date: is 2002 to 2008.
    Name: change F01.1 to F1.
    Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
    Loadouts:
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank.
    - edit "Buddy store" loadout to have 2 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank. Please add "2004" in its name, as it only became available that year.
    Comms: Delete "Link 16 JTIDS".

  • #35 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2009, F03
    Date: is 2007. (While 12F only became fully ops on F2 in 2008, in March 2007 3 Rafale M F2 got on PACDG directly from CEAM and dropped their GBU12 over Afghanistan later that month in support of Dutch troops.)
    Name: change "F03" to "F2".
    Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
    Stores: delete "#240 - AM.39 Exocet Blk I", "#479 - Damocles LDP Pod", "#478 - SBU-38 AASM/D".
    Loadouts:
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
    - delete "AM.39 Exocet" loadout, not clread for that standard.
    - delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Heavy", it doesn't fit.
    - delete "SBU-38 AASM" loadout, not cleared for that standard.
    - delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never seen so few GBU carried.
    - edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no #479 - Damocles LDP,no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional. (Buddy lasing were required.)
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - edit "Buddy store" loadout to have 2 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.

  • #2345 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2011, F03
    Date: is 2009.
    Name: change "F03" to "F3". (Actually encompass 3.1 to 3.3 so there's no need to create another platform.)
    Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
    Stores:
    - delete "#240 - AM.39 Exocet Blk I".
    - add "#258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II" and "#2596 - SBU-64 AASM/M".
    Loadouts:
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
    - delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Heavy", it doesn't fit.
    - delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
    - delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Heavy", it doesn't fit.
    - delete "GBU-49/B GPS/LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
    - edit "AM.39 Exocet" to have 1x #258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II and no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
    - edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - edit "Buddy store" loadout to have 2 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
    - add "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" loadout with 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 1x #479 - Damocles LDP Pod, 4x #1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M, 2x
  • #1873 - MICA IR (optional) and 2x
  • #1872 - MICA EM (optional).

  • #2789 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2014, F03
    Name: change "F03" to "F3.4+"
    Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
    Stores:
    - delete "#240 - AM.39 Exocet Blk I".
    - add "#258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II" and "#2596 - SBU-64 AASM/M".
    Loadouts:
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
    - delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Heavy", it doesn't fit.
    - delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
    - delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Heavy", it doesn't fit.
    - delete "GBU-49/B GPS/LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
    - edit "AM.39 Exocet" to have 1x #258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II and no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
    - edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - edit "Buddy store" loadout to have 4 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank.
    Propulsion:
    - Engine name: "SNECMA M88-4E"
    (Thrust or consumption doesn't change afaik, extended service life is the main benefit).
    http://www.snecma.com/-m88-.html

  • #3231 - Rafale M -- France (Navy), 2019, F03
    Date: is 2018.
    Name: change "F03" to "F3R".
    Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
    Stores: add #1872 - MICA EM.
    Loadouts:
    - delete "A/A: Meteor, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
    - delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
    - delete "Light" bomb loadouts, never saw so few bombs carried.
    - edit "A/A: Meteor, Standard CAP" to have 2 Meteor only (French don't want to use the two other Meteor hardpoints available), and to have 2x #1872 - MICA EM.
    - edit "AM.39 Exocet" to have 1x #258 - AM.39 Exocet Blk II and no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
    - edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - edit "Buddy store" loadout to have 4 x #47 - 1250 liter Drop Tank.

    <insert coffee break here>

  • #1749 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
    Date: is 2006. http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/equipement/aeronautique/le-rafale
    Name: change "F02" to "F2".
    Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
    Stores:
    - delete "#479 - Damocles LDP Pod".
    - add "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]".
    Loadouts:
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": delete Damocles LDP, have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
    - edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
    - add "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82]" loadout with 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 4x #1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82], 2x
  • #1873 - MICA IR (optional) and 2x
  • #1872 - MICA EM (optional).(Buddy lasing were required.)

  • #560 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
    Name: change "F03" to "F3".
    Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
    Loadouts:
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
    - delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
    - edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, make MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.

  • #2344 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2011-0, F03
    Name: change "F03" to "F3.2".
    Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
    Stores:
    - delete "#719 - ASMP-A". (While All Rafale are wired, Armée de l'Air's doctrine is to have a crew of 2 do the nuc. deterrence job.)
    - delete "#2596 - SBU-64 AASM/M" (came in 2013).
    - add "#1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR]".
    Loadouts:
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - delete "ASMP-A" loadout.
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
    - delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
    - edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, make MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
    - edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional, have "#1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M" instead "SBU-64 AASM/M".

  • #2788 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
    Name: change "F03" to "F3.4+"
    Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
    Stores:
    - delete "#719 - ASMP-A". (While All Rafale are wired, Armée de l'Air's doctrine is to have a crew of 2 do the nuc. deterrence job.)
    Loadouts:
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - delete "ASMP-A" loadout.
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
    - delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
    - edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
    Propulsion:
    - Engine name: "SNECMA M88-4E"
    (Thrust or consumption doesn't change afaik, extended service life is the main benefit).
    http://www.snecma.com/-m88-.html

  • #3230 - Rafale C -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03
    Date: is 2018.
    Name: change "F03" to "F3R".
    Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
    Stores:
    - delete "#719 - ASMP-A". (While All Rafale are wired, Armée de l'Air's doctrine is to have a crew of 2 do the nuc. deterrence job.)
    - add #1872 - MICA EM.
    Loadouts:
    - delete "ASMP-A" loadout.
    - delete "A/A: Meteor, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
    - delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
    - delete "Light" bomb loadouts, never saw so few bombs carried.
    - edit "A/A: Meteor, Standard CAP" to have 2 Meteor only (French don't want to use the two other Meteor hardpoints available), and to have 2x #1872 - MICA EM.
    - edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
    - edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.

    <we are almost done>

  • #3639 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2007, F02
    Date: is 2006. http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga/equipement/aeronautique/le-rafale
    Name: change "F02" to "F2".
    Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
    Stores:
    - delete "#479 - Damocles LDP Pod".
    - add "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]".
    Loadouts:
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": delete Damocles LDP, have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
    - edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
    - add "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82]" loadout with 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, 4x #1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82], 2x
  • #1873 - MICA IR (optional) and 2x
  • #1872 - MICA EM (optional).(Buddy lasing were required.)

  • #3640 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2009, F03
    Name: change "F03" to "F3".
    Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
    Loadouts:
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
    - delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
    - edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, make MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.

  • #3641 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2011, F03
    Name: change "F03" to "F3.2".
    Sensors: add #3891 - DDM
    Stores:
    - delete "#2596 - SBU-64 AASM/M" (came in 2013).
    - add "#1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR]".
    Loadouts:
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
    - delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
    - edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, make MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
    - edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]": have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and make MICA missiles optional, have "#1603 - SBU-54 AASM/M" instead "SBU-64 AASM/M".

  • #3642 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2014, F03
    Name: change "F03" to "F3.4+"
    Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
    Stores:
    Loadouts:
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.
    - delete "A/A: MICA, Heavy CAP", doesn't fit.
    - delete "Heavy" and "Light" bombs loadouts, they are wrong as we have already seen.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
    - edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SCALP EG, 2x" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank.
    Propulsion:
    - Engine name: "SNECMA M88-4E"
    (Thrust or consumption doesn't change afaik, extended service life is the main benefit).
    http://www.snecma.com/-m88-.html

  • #3643 - Rafale B -- France (Air Force), 2019, F03
    Date: is 2018.
    Name: change "F03" to "F3R".
    Sensors: delete #605 - OSF [FLIR / IRST]
    Stores:
    - add #1872 - MICA EM.
    Loadouts:
    - delete "A/A: Meteor, Heavy CAP", so much missiles simply doesn't fit.
    - delete "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Light", never saw so few bombs carried.
    - delete "Light" bomb loadouts, never saw so few bombs carried.
    - edit "A/A: Meteor, Standard CAP" to have 2 Meteor only (French don't want to use the two other Meteor hardpoints available), and to have 2x #1872 - MICA EM.
    - edit "GBU-12D/B LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Standard" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-38 AASM/D [Mk82, GPS-Only], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-38 AASM/D amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional. (while 6 bombs can fit, pylons doesn't seems to operate reliably so fitted, thus 4 bombs are SOP. Damocles is carried to compute coordinates and feed the bombs' GPS with in dynamic targeting missions.)
    - edit "SBU-54 AASM/M [Hammer, Mk82, GPS + IIR], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "SBU-64 AASM/M [Mk82, GPS + SALH], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have no other DT than 2x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank, reduce SBU-64 AASM/M amount to 4 and MICA missiles optional.
    - edit "Ferry" loadout to have 3 x #1531 - 2000 liter Drop Tank and nothing else.


    Voilà!

    Edit: just got a new source regarding early Rafale M and 2000l DT("Le porte-avions Charles-de-Gaulle & Son groupe aérien embarqué", Jean-Michel Guhl, ISBN: 978-2912838278.).
    Edit2: SNECMA M88-9 would require structural changes that are quite expensive and thus would only be done if a rich export customer pays for it.

    < Message edited by Jan Masterson -- 12/2/2014 12:57:39 AM >

    (in reply to mikmykWS)
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    RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 12/1/2014 11:03:03 PM   
    DeltaV112

     

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    Air-to-Air loadout should have updated R-77 variant, (R-77M/K-77M/Izdeliye 180) AESA seeker probably with 95% pk, range is unclear, probably go with minimum of identical to RVV-SD and say 60 nm.
    PAK-FA also seems to have support for internal carriage of Kh-58(2 in forward bay) and Kh-35(2 per bay) missiles.

    Various SA-10/20/21

    48N6DM has wrong range of 80 nm, should be 130 nm. Also missing is 48N6M, domestic version of 48N6E2.
    9M96/E has wrong range of 30 nm, should be 22 nm. Missing is 9M96M/E2

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    RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 12/1/2014 11:53:59 PM   
    mikmykWS

     

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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: DeltaV112

    T-50/PAK-FA

    Air-to-Air loadout should have updated R-77 variant, (R-77M/K-77M/Izdeliye 180) AESA seeker probably with 95% pk, range is unclear, probably go with minimum of identical to RVV-SD and say 60 nm.
    PAK-FA also seems to have support for internal carriage of Kh-58(2 in forward bay) and Kh-35(2 per bay) missiles.

    Various SA-10/20/21

    48N6DM has wrong range of 80 nm, should be 130 nm. Also missing is 48N6M, domestic version of 48N6E2.
    9M96/E has wrong range of 30 nm, should be 22 nm. Missing is 9M96M/E2


    Need links, photos or anything that backs up your information as we might need to one day.

    Thanks!

    Mike

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    RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 12/1/2014 11:54:30 PM   
    mikmykWS

     

    Posts: 11524
    Joined: 3/22/2005
    Status: offline     		Jan thank you!

    Added to our list.

    Mike

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    RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 12/3/2014 12:22:02 AM   
    Ocel0t

     

    Posts: 40
    Joined: 10/13/2014
    Status: offline     		Just wondering if we can get this little guy: General Atomics Avenger and its Sea Avenger variant added in?

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    RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 12/3/2014 12:56:33 AM   
    CV60


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    Status: offline     		Minor database correction: DB3000 Gabriel I missile (Weapon_1559). Database claims a cruise altitude of 9 meters. Jane's says it cruises at 17-20 meters, descending to 4.5 to 6 meters in the terminal phase.
    Jane's also claims a range of 10.8 nm. The database also claims an IOC of 1973. However, it was IOC no later than 1970, as it was sold to both Taiwan and Singapore that year

    Friedman, Norman. The Naval Institute Guide to World Naval Weapon Systems, 1997-1998, pg. 230 claims the range is "20+km", and that it cruises at 20 meters.

    Another minor correction: The "Properties" section claims a possible imaging seeker. According to Jane's, it isn't really an imaging seeker. Rather, there is a Kollmorgen Mk 35 stabilized sight on the firing ship that is used by a human using a joystick to fly the missile to the target. Friedman seems to corroborate this description.

    < Message edited by CV60 -- 12/3/2014 2:14:37 AM >

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    RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2014 12:26:08 AM   
    Rongor

     

    Posts: 451
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    Status: offline     		[ADDED DB v440]

    Hi.
    I am requesting to add the russian Marshal Nedelin class of missile range instrumentation ships. There is only on unit left of these vessels designed to track missile launches (space or ICBM and experimental stuff). The "Marshal Krylov" is currently undergoing refitting work in Vladivostok. Modernization of SIGINT capabilities isn't unlikely. Reports also non specificly mention "electronic weapons".

    Data so far:

    Project 19141

    Displacement (tons):
    Standard: 18360 (Project 19141 - 22800)
    Full load: 25300 (Project 19141 - 23780)

    Dimensions (m):
    Length: 211,2 (Project 19141 - 211)
    Beam: 27,7 (Project 19141 - 27,6)
    Draft: 7,99 (Project 19141 - 8)

    Speed (knots): 22,76
    Range: 20000 nmi (15,5 knots)
    Autonomy (days): 120
    Propulsion: 2x15000 hp DGZA-6U, 2 fixed pitch propellers, 2 bow thrusters, 8x1500 kW diesel generators
    Armament: 6x6 30 mm AK-630 - MR-123 "Vympel-A" fire control system
    2 Ka-27PS helicopters

    Electronics: MR-320 «Topaz» air/surface search radar (Project 19141 - MR-755 «Fregat-MA»), «Meteorit» air search radar (not on Project 19141), 2 MR-212/201 «Vaygach-U» navigational radars, «Volga» navigational radar, «Zarya» radio direction finder, MGK-335S «Platina-S» sonar, MG-349 «Ros`-K» sonar, 2 MG-7 «Braslet» anti-saboteur sonars, «Zefir-A», «Zefir-T», «Kunitsa», «Dyatel», «Zodiak» special equipment, «Andromeda-1914» navigational complex, «Tayfun-2» communication complex

    Crew: 396 (Project 19141 - 339 (49 officers))

    got this from russian-ships.info
    only russian wikipedia link is available
    picture provided by this article

    < Message edited by emsoy -- 7/6/2015 5:12:29 PM >

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    RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2014 12:33:03 AM   
    mikmykWS

     

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    Joined: 3/22/2005
    Status: offline     		Updated list to this point.

    Thanks all!

    Mike

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    RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2014 2:48:03 AM   
    ClaudeJ


    Posts: 1213
    Joined: 3/8/2006
    From: Belgique
    Status: offline
    quote:

    ORIGINAL: CV60
    Minor DB issue in DB3000: JP.233 (Weapon_223) is listed as being an anti-runway weapon. While it was designed primarily for anti-runway use, it did so by using a shaped charge to blow a small a hole in the runway and inserting an explosive charge to form a difficult-to-repair void under the tarmac. Accordingly, it could be used against any target that is similar to a runway, such as rail marshalling yards or permanent supply depots.
    http://www.wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?6448-JP-233-runway-denial-system-SG-357-runway-cratering-bomb-HB-876-area-denial-mine



    Going that way, shouldn't all runway cratering weapons have their Valid targets list accordingly extended to include "Land Structures (Hard)"?

    #225 - MW-1 Anti-Runway Dispenser [100 x Runway Penetrators + 336 x Area Denial Mines]
    #687 - Apache [10 x KRISS Runway Penetrators]
    #1026 - BetAB-500SP CB [12 x Anti-Runway Penetrator Bomblets]
    #1032 - Durandal [BLU-107]
    #1033 - BAP.100 Anti-Runway
    #1709 - DWS.39 AFDS [24 x STABO]
    #2944 - China Type 200-4 [Durandal Copy]

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    RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2014 3:28:21 AM   
    Mgellis


    Posts: 2054
    Joined: 8/18/2007
    Status: offline     		I'm not sure if this has been requested yet, but it looks like India will be purchasing Rafale aircraft. I don't know if there will be any significant differences between the French and Indian versions, but it looks like India is going to buy/build at least 100 of them. (I wonder if they will be buying/building a carrier-capable version?) Anyway, it should probably be added eventually. Here are some links...

    http://defense-update.com/20141202_mmrca-2.html
    http://defense-update.com/20130618_rafale_mmrca_deliveries_in_2016.html

    Thanks for considering this one.


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    RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2014 3:46:26 AM   
    Mgellis


    Posts: 2054
    Joined: 8/18/2007
    Status: offline     		[Barroso ADDED DB v440, NO INFO ON THE OTHER]

    Barroso-class corvette
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_corvette_Barroso_%28V34%29

    Tamandaré-class corvette
    http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2014/10/28/segundo-o-site-alide-corvetas-da-classe-tamandare-ja-tem-nome/
    http://www.strategicdefenceintelligence.com/article/zdR3Tg93KUE/2014/12/01/brazilian_navy_selects_mbdas_sea_ceptor_system_for_tamandar-/
    http://defense-update.com/20141128_seaceptor.html
    (looks like it will be similar to the Barroso, but stealthy, perhaps like the Visby)

    (I know there isn't much to go on for these yet, but I figured it couldn't hurt to mention them and get them in the pipeline. Stealthy Brazilian corvettes? What's not to love?)



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    RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2014 4:08:19 AM   
    Mgellis


    Posts: 2054
    Joined: 8/18/2007
    Status: offline     		CM-708UNA (Chinese anti-ship missile)
    http://www.geek.com/news/china-triples-the-targeting-range-of-its-submarines-by-developing-a-new-cruise-missile-1609264/
    http://errymath.blogspot.com/2014/11/cm-708una-was-submarine-launched-anti.html
    http://www.naval-technology.com/news/newschina-unveils-new-submarine-launched-missile-4436117

    CX-1 cruise missile
    http://www.defensenews.com/article/20141130/DEFREG03/311300011/China-s-CX-1-Missile-Now-Exportable
    http://aviationweek.com/blog/updated-zhuhai-surprise-china-s-third-russian-supersonic-ascm
    http://www.andrewerickson.com/2014/12/chinas-new-cx-1-supersonic-anti-ship-cruise-missile-wendell-minnicks-after-action-report-from-zhuhai-airshow/
    http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/navy/cx-1-cruise-missile-7099.html

    B-3/Next Generation Bomber
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next-Generation_Bomber
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/22/is-the-pentagon-s-55-billion-stealth-bomber-too-big-a-secret.html
    http://www.popsci.com/article/technology/air-force-working-new-bomber
    http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140710/DEFREG02/140710001/USAF-Sends-Next-Gen-Bomber-Requirements-Industry-Few-Details-Made-Public
    http://fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL34406.pdf
    http://inventorspot.com/articles/new_long_range_bomber_may_be_horizon_22472

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    RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 12/4/2014 11:05:50 AM   
    CV60


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    Joined: 10/1/2012
    Status: offline     		DB 3000 issue for discussion and possible correction: According to Friedman, the Paveway III series LGB has a [probable] range of 3-5 nm, vice the 8 nm in the database. However, Friedman also notes the Paveway III has a 5:1 glide ratio, so that could justify the database game numbers, for releases at high altitude.
    The Paveway II series (and I assume the Paveway I series, as both I and II use "full deflection" i.e., "bang bang" airfoils) are listed by Friedman as having 1-3 nm range, vice the 4 nm in the database.
    I just wanted to raise this potential issue. Given the large difference between the database and Friedman, I would recommend getting some confirmation of the Friedman numbers before recommending a change, especially on the Paveway III series.
    Friedman, Norman. The Naval Institute Guide to World Naval Weapon Systems, 1997-1998 Annapolis, Md: Naval Institute Press, 1998, pg. 253-54


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