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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/9/2014 2:42:49 PM

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You can afford quite a lot of losses in airframes as long as they are Navy DB and/or Navy TBs. I ended up having a couple of thousand in the pool in our game. Don�t neglect training though...In the end I had every Navy and Army FS training bomber pilots and it still wasn�t enough. Was flying 40EXP, 50 skill pilots in the end.

PS. Don�t dual train LBA pilots. I know some "knowledgeable" players recommend this but its a waste of time. As you know flying LBA against naval targets will mean tremendous losses. For every dual trained pilot you could have had two instead. Have a pool of expendable pilots 70 NavB/NavT and 50 NavS.

Pilots on your CVs are a different matter of course.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/9/2014 2:55:09 PM

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You can afford quite a lot of losses in airframes as long as they are Navy DB and/or Navy TBs. I ended up having a couple of thousand in the pool in our game. Don�t neglect training though...In the end I had every Navy and Army FS training bomber pilots and it still wasn�t enough. Was flying 40EXP, 50 skill pilots in the end.

PS. Don�t dual train LBA pilots. I know some "knowledgeable" players recommend this but its a waste of time. As you know flying LBA against naval targets will mean tremendous losses. For every dual trained pilot you could have had two instead. Have a pool of expendable pilots 70 NavB/NavT and 50 NavS.

Pilots on your CVs are a different matter of course.

Thanks Jocke. Solid advice. I've basically done this unless the units were forward and I was able to take days to train them in another capacity. As they get good I usually have been putting the LBA navy ones in the pool and starting fresh. The Brits have been getting more extensive training simply because I've had no chance to think about using any of them yet and I want to make sure anything on a ship is as good as possible.

I agree on the DB/TB situation. My pool isn't huge yet, but it's sufficient to take a risk here and there. He only has a few CA and a lucky bomb hit could take one out at any time, or even cripple it to the point it can be swarmed by subs.

My general approach to LBA is very conservative with explosions of high risk behavior. I hope this will keep him from being able to guess what I'll hit and what i won't plus reducing the risk of CAP traps. I've noticed he's been higher on the aggression scale with his, keeping planes turned on even when there is no direct threat. That's led to a few situations losing 10-15 planes for nothing. I'd rather make my losses count, and even these may have counted a bit. He's just moved those ships back to Rabaul, allowing me to use fast transport and landing craft more comfortably for a turn or two at least.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/10/2014 10:09:09 PM

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You can afford quite a lot of losses in airframes as long as they are Navy DB and/or Navy TBs. I ended up having a couple of thousand in the pool in our game. Don�t neglect training though...In the end I had every Navy and Army FS training bomber pilots and it still wasn�t enough. Was flying 40EXP, 50 skill pilots in the end.

PS. Don�t dual train LBA pilots. I know some "knowledgeable" players recommend this but its a waste of time. As you know flying LBA against naval targets will mean tremendous losses. For every dual trained pilot you could have had two instead. Have a pool of expendable pilots 70 NavB/NavT and 50 NavS.

Pilots on your CVs are a different matter of course.

Yeah but not til mid 43. One major carrier action at this stage will completely deplete you DBs and TBs. The replacement rates are sill low until the SBD5 comes on line.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/11/2014 9:26:14 AM

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You can afford quite a lot of losses in airframes as long as they are Navy DB and/or Navy TBs. I ended up having a couple of thousand in the pool in our game. Don�t neglect training though...In the end I had every Navy and Army FS training bomber pilots and it still wasn�t enough. Was flying 40EXP, 50 skill pilots in the end.

PS. Don�t dual train LBA pilots. I know some "knowledgeable" players recommend this but its a waste of time. As you know flying LBA against naval targets will mean tremendous losses. For every dual trained pilot you could have had two instead. Have a pool of expendable pilots 70 NavB/NavT and 50 NavS.

Pilots on your CVs are a different matter of course.

Yeah but not til mid 43. One major carrier action at this stage will completely deplete you DBs and TBs. The replacement rates are sill low until the SBD5 comes on line.

The TBs are good with 200+ right now in the pool. DBs are at around 40 after my latest unsuccessful action.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/11/2014 1:49:07 PM

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I don�t have the game installed any longer so I can�t check. But I think the next version of the SBD should start producing soon? And once the Helldiver start producing you will have loads to spare. The stats for the old SBDs and the new ones are pretty much the same so they old ones are very useful.

Personally I avoid using LBA against Naval targets. Its simply not worth it. Losing 500-1000 planes for the possibility of perhaps getting through CAP/LRCAP....nah. From a VP perspective it makes lite sense to try.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/11/2014 1:58:46 PM

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Feb 13 - 15, 1943

SUBS: A lot of the US subs are holding at Melbourne in anticipation of a move to Esperance once refits are finished.

INDIA: Nick has moved in at least another division to Madras. This is good in one way, but could lead to a more prolonged engagement here. He's also been adding to the air defenses, with 280 fighters now installed. The Allies simply don't have the numbers of good airframes in a PDU-off game to deal with big concentrations of Japanese fighters like this. i now have two Corsair groups and one P-38 group in India. One P-38 group is in the Pacific. That's it!!

So do I gamble on the masses of P-40s and Hurricanes to win the day with the Allied bombers again hanging in the balance? Do I continue to wait?

I think instead I'd like to try to get crafty, but it'll maybe take just as long. He now knows where most of the indian and Brit armies are located. I've just gotten another Indian and another Aussie division, though and could add in an American ID soon. With some other filler that would be about enough to challenge in several locations. Things have to start getting more fluid soon, and that requires knowing where the KB is located as well as what I can do once I find the beast.

CENT PAC: Bombardments resume now that CVs have been out of sight for a few days.

SO PAC: Some good sweeping here and that has helped support easy moves forward to Pangoe and reinforcements at Rekata Bay and Munda. The P-38s take out a bunch of Oscars by sweeping at Shortlands and catching a bleeding CAP from Buin.

CHINA: Three big Corps are holed up in Changteh and start the defense pretty well. With little supply though it seems the damage to Japanese units, even in negative attacks, is slight.

The units in the mountains still hold as well but are wearing down, with a shock attack getting a 1:1 on the 15th.

OZ: All is moving now and the Esperance ships will load up in 4-5 days. Still nothing major in SW OZ in spite of massive SIGINT traffic of divisions moving to Perth, again!

SIGINT: Nick is definitely not so indecisive as to continually change his mind about where these major assets should be located. This is intentional SIGINT deception, and it's been well constructed up until recently. Now, however, it's getting easier and easier to read as what it is; junk mail!

30/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Perth.
24/4th Division is loaded on a Japanese TK moving to Perth.
4/4th Division is loaded on a Yusen N Cargo class xAK moving to Perth.
10/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Perth.
10/4th Division is loaded on a Husimi Cargo class xAK moving to Perth.
38/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on a Std-D Cargo class xAK moving to Perth.
16/4th Division is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Perth.
5/4th Division is loaded on xAK Kotobuki Maru #5 moving to Perth.
17/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on xAK Hauraki Maru moving to Perth.
10/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on a Ansyu-C Cargo class xAK moving to Perth.
17/4th Division is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Perth.
39/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on a Gozan Cargo class xAK moving to Perth.
24/19th Division is loaded on xAKL Nagano Maru moving to Ponape.
28/4th Division is loaded on a Aden Cargo class xAK moving to Perth.
21/4th Division is loaded on a Ansyu-C Cargo class xAK moving to Perth.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 13, 43
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Morning Air attack on Shortlands , at 110,132

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 13

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 25000 feet

CAP engaged:
248th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 12 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 14, 43
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Ground combat at 73,47 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15129 troops, 245 guns, 485 vehicles, Assault Value = 576

Defending force 16033 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 397

Japanese adjusted assault: 501

Allied adjusted defense: 259

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
852 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 97 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled

Allied ground losses:
392 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 52 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Guards Tank Division
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
23rd Army
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
10th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 15, 43
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Ground combat at Changteh (81,50)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 43669 troops, 483 guns, 657 vehicles, Assault Value = 1346

Defending force 42823 troops, 149 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1307

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 879

Allied adjusted defense: 1373

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1816 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 150 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
969 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 106 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Tank Division
40th Division
116th Division
60th Division
11th Army
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment

Defending units:
8th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
87th Chinese Corps
39th Chinese Corps
6th Construction Regiment
20th Group Army
17th Construction Regiment

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Ground combat at 73,47 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 14806 troops, 245 guns, 485 vehicles, Assault Value = 542

Defending force 15683 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 357

Japanese adjusted assault: 330

Allied adjusted defense: 244

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
279 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
190 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 51 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Guards Tank Division
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
23rd Army
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
10th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
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With 88k troops here now and a significant air force, this will be a tough nut. Once the B-24D1 is in operation and filling a fw groups this will be more possible. I need enough good planes for two contested days and a week of follow-up bombings. If I can do that, shut the air-field, then Madras will have to be vacated. Supplying by sea will no longer be a viable alternative at that point and Allied bombings would eventually completely disrupt the troops and kill the supply.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/11/2014 2:03:07 PM

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I don�t have the game installed any longer so I can�t check. But I think the next version of the SBD should start producing soon? And once the Helldiver start producing you will have loads to spare. The stats for the old SBDs and the new ones are pretty much the same so they old ones are very useful.

Personally I avoid using LBA against Naval targets. Its simply not worth it. Losing 500-1000 planes for the possibility of perhaps getting through CAP/LRCAP....nah. From a VP perspective it makes lite sense to try.

This is only for a VP perspective of trying to get them to pull back so I can use the window for relatively safe moves forward. I'd rather lose 80 planes than 10 ships loaded with troops!

I think you're right; I'll be swimming in 1E bombers soon.

So you've graduated to other pastures, Jocke? How are you liking WITW? Look forward to a PBEM AAR from you sometime the future!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/11/2014 4:50:15 PM

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So you've graduated to other pastures, Jocke? How are you liking WITW? Look forward to a PBEM AAR from you sometime the future!

Havn�t had time to play it very much but its probably a solid game.

Strangely enough I find myself playing Command whenever I get some spare time. Didn�t expect that! Its a fantastic game and it feels kind of fresh having a more modern setting.

No doubt I will be back to AE eventually though. But I�ll wait for the right opponent.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/11/2014 5:10:21 PM

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So you've graduated to other pastures, Jocke? How are you liking WITW? Look forward to a PBEM AAR from you sometime the future!

Havn�t had time to play it very much but its probably a solid game. Strangely enough I find myself playing Command whenever I get some spare time. Didn�t expect that! Its a fantastic game and it feels kind of fresh having a more modern setting.

No doubt I will be back to AE eventually though. But I�ll wait for the right opponent.

I'll have to try Command one day. I've just got too much going on right now to even keep up with what I'm playing and an AAR. The Allied side is starting to have a lot of clicks!! But I still am enjoying it!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/11/2014 5:22:57 PM

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You think early 43 is lots of clicks? You just wait for 45.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/11/2014 7:30:09 PM

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I don�t have the game installed any longer so I can�t check. But I think the next version of the SBD should start producing soon? And once the Helldiver start producing you will have loads to spare. The stats for the old SBDs and the new ones are pretty much the same so they old ones are very useful.

Personally I avoid using LBA against Naval targets. Its simply not worth it. Losing 500-1000 planes for the possibility of perhaps getting through CAP/LRCAP....nah. From a VP perspective it makes lite sense to try.

Not to mention that you are not getting much in the way of LBA replacement at this point. I think the SBD-5 comes in April and the early Helldiver the same or next month. Maybe a month early on both here.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/11/2014 7:45:36 PM

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You think early 43 is lots of clicks? You just wait for 45.

Believe me, I know this is nothing, but it's different that Japan at this point. The map is bigger and there is more stuff to move forward. Once the Japanese economy is chugging along then it's just tactics and making sure the fuel and oil get moved around.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/11/2014 7:47:49 PM

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I don�t have the game installed any longer so I can�t check. But I think the next version of the SBD should start producing soon? And once the Helldiver start producing you will have loads to spare. The stats for the old SBDs and the new ones are pretty much the same so they old ones are very useful.

Personally I avoid using LBA against Naval targets. Its simply not worth it. Losing 500-1000 planes for the possibility of perhaps getting through CAP/LRCAP....nah. From a VP perspective it makes lite sense to try.

Not to mention that you are not getting much in the way of LBA replacement at this point. I think the SBD-5 comes in April and the early Helldiver the same or next month. Maybe a month early on both here.

I realize I was using SBD-2s for most of the recent strikes and there are actually 100+ SBD-3 in the pools still, so all is good.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/11/2014 11:37:25 PM

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You think early 43 is lots of clicks? You just wait for 45.

Believe me, I know this is nothing, but it's different that Japan at this point. The map is bigger and there is more stuff to move forward. Once the Japanese economy is chugging along then it's just tactics and making sure the fuel and oil get moved around.

I'm finding it easy to "lose" things in my Japan game. Forgetting where my Netties are, where my long range Zero units are, etc. I frequently have to go hunting for them. This may be because action is light at the moment...

Allies games, both are mid-43 now. My cups runneth over. Need barrels to put them in now. Less a risk of losing a category of unit and more a risk of leaving some behind. A few weeks ago I discovered a trove of early war, speedy xAPs and a few DDs that I'd hidden in mid-42 and apparently the goal was to hide them from myself also...

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/12/2014 6:32:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

You think early 43 is lots of clicks? You just wait for 45.

Believe me, I know this is nothing, but it's different that Japan at this point. The map is bigger and there is more stuff to move forward. Once the Japanese economy is chugging along then it's just tactics and making sure the fuel and oil get moved around.

I'm finding it easy to "lose" things in my Japan game. Forgetting where my Netties are, where my long range Zero units are, etc. I frequently have to go hunting for them. This may be because action is light at the moment...

Allies games, both are mid-43 now. My cups runneth over. Need barrels to put them in now. Less a risk of losing a category of unit and more a risk of leaving some behind. A few weeks ago I discovered a trove of early war, speedy xAPs and a few DDs that I'd hidden in mid-42 and apparently the goal was to hide them from myself also...

I do this too! I see something about to happen and have to search the air group screen to locate the necessary forces.

As Allies you really have to be sure it's a good idea to send a bunch of stuff to India. It's not like it's just going to fly back to OZ.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/12/2014 2:29:11 PM

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You think early 43 is lots of clicks? You just wait for 45.

Believe me, I know this is nothing, but it's different that Japan at this point. The map is bigger and there is more stuff to move forward. Once the Japanese economy is chugging along then it's just tactics and making sure the fuel and oil get moved around.

I'm finding it easy to "lose" things in my Japan game. Forgetting where my Netties are, where my long range Zero units are, etc. I frequently have to go hunting for them. This may be because action is light at the moment...

Allies games, both are mid-43 now. My cups runneth over. Need barrels to put them in now. Less a risk of losing a category of unit and more a risk of leaving some behind. A few weeks ago I discovered a trove of early war, speedy xAPs and a few DDs that I'd hidden in mid-42 and apparently the goal was to hide them from myself also...

I do this too! I see something about to happen and have to search the air group screen to locate the necessary forces.

As Allies you really have to be sure it's a good idea to send a bunch of stuff to India. It's not like it's just going to fly back to OZ.

I dunno, sea time back to OZ is only two to three weeks. And for some reason the SE Asia theater seems to have way too many transports. I have never been shy about running troops back and forth. Except for the occasional raid it is a route that is hard for the Japanese player to interdict. But I forgot, you don't own the rail line from Perth, which completely changes the equation. (light bulb over head) Now I understand why taking Perth for even a few months is not a bad idea for Japan. And now I realize why you need to take Perth back. It is a key port for maintaining communication with India. Duh!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/12/2014 3:29:41 PM

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Sailing to Pt. Augusta or Adelaide is only 2 - 3 more days in the scheme of things. The Allied player has enough ships and can afford the extra time to bypass, so I remain unconvinced that Perth is vital to keep.
Not sure if Betties (21 hex range) can reach Pt. Augusta from Perth to interdict convoys coming from map edge area though. Mavises (Mavi??) and raiding SCTFs are what I would be worried about.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/12/2014 3:35:17 PM

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I dunno, sea time back to OZ is only two to three weeks. And for some reason the SE Asia theater seems to have way too many transports. I have never been shy about running troops back and forth. Except for the occasional raid it is a route that is hard for the Japanese player to interdict. But I forgot, you don't own the rail line from Perth, which completely changes the equation. (light bulb over head) Now I understand why taking Perth for even a few months is not a bad idea for Japan. And now I realize why you need to take Perth back. It is a key port for maintaining communication with India. Duh!

It is. It would also allow me to better monitor transport from cape town to OZ. I'm not running anything along that path now, and the fuel lines are longer and more thin to CONUS.

Also, as Japan you just feel more comfortable knowing the Allies have to come back through SW OZ to get to the DEI. Once Perth, then Geraldton, then Exmouth fall, it sudden'y seems more important to garrison bases in the South Celebes and across to Java. This pressure is not something I have to create directly, it's just a result of owning territory closer to the vitals of the Empire. Will the KB be sailing off of India once I've got the SW OZ area back? Not likely, but I can only hope!

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Sailing to Pt. Augusta or Adelaide is only 2 - 3 more days in the scheme of things. The Allied player has enough ships and can afford the extra time to bypass, so I remain unconvinced that Perth is vital to keep.
Not sure if Betties (21 hex range) can reach Pt. Augusta from Perth to interdict convoys coming from map edge area though. Mavises (Mavi??) and raiding SCTFs are what I would be worried about.

Sailing from where? He's already nailed two transport TFs on the actual map edge out from Melbourne because he can take an angle from Perth easily and hunt out there with I-boat scouts leading in the surface forces. Because the Japanese have excellent scouting forces from their Glen subs to AV ships and AMCs it's impossible to secure this LOC without owning bases that close off easy access to these lines. Even after that I'll have to use a lot of pickets.

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Sailing to Pt. Augusta or Adelaide is only 2 - 3 more days in the scheme of things. The Allied player has enough ships and can afford the extra time to bypass, so I remain unconvinced that Perth is vital to keep.
Not sure if Betties (21 hex range) can reach Pt. Augusta from Perth to interdict convoys coming from map edge area though. Mavises (Mavi??) and raiding SCTFs are what I would be worried about.

Sailing from where? He's already nailed two transport TFs on the actual map edge out from Melbourne because he can take an angle from Perth easily and hunt out there with I-boat scouts leading in the surface forces. Because the Japanese have excellent scouting forces from their Glen subs to AV ships and AMCs it's impossible to secure this LOC without owning bases that close off easy access to these lines. Even after that I'll have to use a lot of pickets.

Can the British CVs with good escort do a sweep through the area to clean up some of the raiders, or do you have other plans for them?

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/12/2014 4:00:51 PM

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Feb 16 - 18, 1943

INDIA: Got a good sense of what is at Madras with a bombardment. It's got two new divisions since we invested. This will make it tough now, but he has to decide if he wants to lose them or not. Looks for now like he's willing to take a chance.

A few sweeps with my shiny new Corsairs do well over Madras.

Keeping some damage on Dambulla in case I want to shut down other bases on Ceylon. He's not fighting there at all yet.

SO PAC: Panggoe is invested by a Fiji brigade and it looks like only about 30AV of fragments is here to contest. i'll get some more support troops landed then bomb it a bit before striking. On the 18th a fast transport here stays too long into the morning and Vals sortie. I was kicking myself as they had no escort and my LR CAP went along with another TF heading back earlier, so these were a free shot. Miraculously nothing was put into sinking condition.

CHINA: The troops in the mountains fold at last. The next hex will be more of the same, but even less supply involved.

At Changteh the first DA nets about even casualties with a 1:2 result. Forts go to level 1 though.

OZ:

SIGINT: Still a bunch of this. About 20 total messages for these two divisions in three days. How does he manage to generate so much traffic with those two?

Then another piece of pure gold!! Now I know the 'mini-KB' has Junyo, Hiyo and a Soryu class plus some CVLs. Great info. Wonder if I can get anything to fly that far?

34/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on xAK Yamagata Maru moving to Perth.
32/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on xAK Taifuku Maru moving to Perth.
23/Imperial Guards Division is loaded on xAK Mito Maru moving to Perth.
28/4th Division is loaded on a Std-C Cargo class xAK moving to Perth.
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Port Hedland (57,129).

a Soryu class CV is located at Ponape (119,113).

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 16, 43
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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 23
A6M5 Zero x 51
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 33
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 21

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
251 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
202 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
5th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIIa Oscar (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
286 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 21
A6M5 Zero x 45
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 32
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 19

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 17
A6M5 Zero x 43
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 29
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 25000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Buin , at 109,131

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 42

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 25000 feet

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Ground combat at 73,47 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 14619 troops, 245 guns, 485 vehicles, Assault Value = 526

Defending force 15325 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 317

Japanese adjusted assault: 504

Allied adjusted defense: 244

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
543 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 37 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 26 (2 destroyed, 24 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1647 casualties reported
Squads: 44 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 49 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Guards Tank Division
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
23rd Army
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
10th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps

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Ground combat at Madras (35,40)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 154431 troops, 2458 guns, 3017 vehicles, Assault Value = 5822

Defending force 74640 troops, 746 guns, 497 vehicles, Assault Value = 1961

Japanese ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
136 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
7th Indian Division
102nd(Sep) Infantry Regiment
22nd (East African) Brigade
75th IAC Regiment
26th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
26th Indian Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
267th Armoured Brigade
2nd British Division
754th Tank Battalion
73rd Motorised Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
7th Armoured Brigade
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
194th Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
762nd Tank Battalion
254th Armoured Brigade
7th Australian Division
84th Indian Brigade
70th British Division
19th Indian Division
63rd Indian Brigade
255th Armoured Brigade
3rd Marine Division
6th Australian Division
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
Waziristan Division
369th Coast AA Regiment
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
III Indian Corps
198th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
209th Field Artillery Battalion
2/1st Med Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
30th Field Artillery Regiment
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
6th Medium Regiment
15th NZ AA Bde
65th Coast AA Regiment
77th Heavy AA Regiment
94th Coast AA Regiment
2nd Indian Heavy AA Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
IV Indian Corps
501st Coast AA Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
64th Coast AA Regiment
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment

Defending units:
6th Guards Division
22nd Tank Regiment
41st Division
10th Garrison Unit
38th Division
5th Guards Division
5th Field Construction Battalion
54th Const Co
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
22nd Air Flotilla
23rd Ind.AA Gun Co
16th AA Regiment
6th Field Construction Battalion
15th Army
11th Air Defense AA Regiment
2nd JAAF Base Force
4th Air Defense AA Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
50th Field AA Battalion
3rd Air Defense AA Regiment
52nd Field AA Battalion
12th JAAF Base Force
3rd Mortar Battalion
62nd JAAF AF Bn

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 17, 43
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Ground combat at Changteh (81,50)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42518 troops, 483 guns, 657 vehicles, Assault Value = 1234

Defending force 41540 troops, 148 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1200

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 626

Allied adjusted defense: 697

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1854 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 94 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
912 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 123 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled

Assaulting units:
116th Division
3rd Tank Division
40th Division
60th Division
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
11th Army
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment

Defending units:
8th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
87th Chinese Corps
39th Chinese Corps
20th Group Army
6th Construction Regiment
17th Construction Regiment

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 18, 43
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Panggoe at 111,133

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
APD Sands
APD Manley, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
APD Lawrence, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
APD Kennison, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD Manley
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD Lawrence
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD Kennison

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Good results, but I need two to three more groups to be able to rotate here and actually begin to wear anything down.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/12/2014 4:02:35 PM

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Sailing to Pt. Augusta or Adelaide is only 2 - 3 more days in the scheme of things. The Allied player has enough ships and can afford the extra time to bypass, so I remain unconvinced that Perth is vital to keep.
Not sure if Betties (21 hex range) can reach Pt. Augusta from Perth to interdict convoys coming from map edge area though. Mavises (Mavi??) and raiding SCTFs are what I would be worried about.

Sailing from where? He's already nailed two transport TFs on the actual map edge out from Melbourne because he can take an angle from Perth easily and hunt out there with I-boat scouts leading in the surface forces. Because the Japanese have excellent scouting forces from their Glen subs to AV ships and AMCs it's impossible to secure this LOC without owning bases that close off easy access to these lines. Even after that I'll have to use a lot of pickets.

Can the British CVs with good escort do a sweep through the area to clean up some of the raiders, or do you have other plans for them?

If you mean Hermes, sure, but that seems like VPs waiting to be taken!

All other RN CVs have withdrawn. Victorious is due in the Pacific soon though.

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I really think that Madras is just begging to be isolated and left behind to rot. Close off the sea-lanes and close the airbase by all means, but leave those four IJA divisions to rot for 1943.

You can clean them up for the VP's later, and Greyjoy won't be able to rebuild them - the only way he'll rescue them is to either fly them out to Ceylon (only delaying their destruction) or bring shipping into range of your LBA in India.

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CVEs & India: I would make some of your American CVEs fighters only and send the DB/TB part over to India for the replenishment types that have two full airgroups. You get plenty of Avengers and SBD models to use there. Like m_m said, leave Madras isolated and head for Burma.

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Sailing to Pt. Augusta or Adelaide is only 2 - 3 more days in the scheme of things. The Allied player has enough ships and can afford the extra time to bypass, so I remain unconvinced that Perth is vital to keep.
Not sure if Betties (21 hex range) can reach Pt. Augusta from Perth to interdict convoys coming from map edge area though. Mavises (Mavi??) and raiding SCTFs are what I would be worried about.

Sailing from where? He's already nailed two transport TFs on the actual map edge out from Melbourne because he can take an angle from Perth easily and hunt out there with I-boat scouts leading in the surface forces. Because the Japanese have excellent scouting forces from their Glen subs to AV ships and AMCs it's impossible to secure this LOC without owning bases that close off easy access to these lines. Even after that I'll have to use a lot of pickets.

Yep, owning Perth makes interdiction very easy for Japan. You can move units from OZ but you are talking about some serious risk in doing so. Is it worth it?

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a Soryu class CV is located at Ponape (119,113).

When it come to Sigint, you are the golden boy of Allied players. I have never seen so many carrier spottings in any other AAR or in my own games. Gonna have to rub you for luck....

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a Soryu class CV is located at Ponape (119,113).

When it come to Sigint, you are the golden boy of Allied players. I have never seen so many carrier spottings in any other AAR or in my own games. Gonna have to rub you for luck....

No kidding. I have 1 CV spotting between both games so far, and the total game time is 34 months.

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Make sure you leave those BDE/RGT units out of any attack at Madras. If they participate in the attack you will likely lose a lot of them. Especially the Indian BDEs are very brittle. Not sure if its a bug or something but quite often they would take something like 95% of the total losses.

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a Soryu class CV is located at Ponape (119,113).

When it come to Sigint, you are the golden boy of Allied players. I have never seen so many carrier spottings in any other AAR or in my own games. Gonna have to rub you for luck....

No kidding. I have 1 CV spotting between both games so far, and the total game time is 34 months.

In the Op Report there are frequently mentions of transmissions picked up by Catalinas during patrols. I wonder if that has something to do with later specific SIGINT reports. If so, perhaps you could share with us how close you get your Cats to a location where SIGINT later reports a carrier? Gotta be something you are doing that increases your SIGINT gold.

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I really think that Madras is just begging to be isolated and left behind to rot. Close off the sea-lanes and close the airbase by all means, but leave those four IJA divisions to rot for 1943.

You can clean them up for the VP's later, and Greyjoy won't be able to rebuild them - the only way he'll rescue them is to either fly them out to Ceylon (only delaying their destruction) or bring shipping into range of your LBA in India.

It'll be slow there and that may be the outcome, but i've already tried the other side, and he has just enough to stop me in NE India still. Here at least we have a huge majority, and if he wants to continue to reinforce it's by sea, and any retreat has to be by sea. Closing off the sea lanes though is not possible with the KB sitting right there, and with Wildcats still the only available CV fighters, when he's already got a full set of A6M5, D4Y1 and probably B6N1 on the KB.

He'l be able to pull out if he wants to within the next 2-3 months before I can really apply enough pressure to the sea lanes to trap the units there. now if he eases up on the CAP there, I could at some point close the fields, and that would then make it tough to pull the troops out. He's seemingly quite confident he can stop me from doing that, but as we may see soon (fingers crossed my most recent turn has some good news in it) it'll be harder and harder to keep all of these fields protecting the bases he needs to keep Madras and Ceylon viable without getting a bunch of stuff cut off.

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