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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 12:05:19 PM

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Esperance - The only thing I see you are lacking there is a BF or other unit with Naval Support to help with unloading. A RAN BF or some of the American LCU that are designed for invasions should have come along. I haven't perfected it yet, by learning how to invade is a skill that Allied player must learn. Japanese players, not so much.

EDIT - bring a small MineLaying TF to mine the base and keep his subs out.

Yeah, the port management and shore party stuff didn't make it in time. I have some on the way for future unloads, already moving.

Notice a few maps up near Ceduna there's a minelaying TF already with orders fro Esperance, and another is on the way from Melbourne just in case it's needed.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 12:06:45 PM

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Four bombs per one Vengeance dive-bomber? Talk about overkill.

Ha!

Yes, it's pretty good against unarmored Japanese stuff with all of those chances to hit. Lots of fires going on!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 12:09:15 PM

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Nicely done.

PS. Don�t count on the CD guns doing anything.

You will need the Navy and/or air power to make sure its safe from bombardments.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 12:47:48 PM

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Nicely done.

PS. Don�t count on the CD guns doing anything. You will need the Navy and/or air power to make sure its safe from bombardments.

Yeah, I'm sure they'll be worthless, but if he gets really bold and tries to invade behind after we move out, ala Olorin, at least these will be here.

It looks like his surface forces bugged out after the last sighting of them near Perth. Or ... they're on the way?

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 1:26:31 PM

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Feb 24 - 26, 1943

INDIA: All units at Madras are fortified and now I'll begin daily bombardments, regardless of results. My units can use the experience, and he doesn't want the supply burn I'm sure. It looks like one more has been added, up to 26 units now, so that'll be interesting to see. Why is he still putting more here?

At this point I welcome it, but it does mean I'm not likely to DA anytime soon. I'd want to break through the CAP first, close the fields and get some supply burnt as well as disruption to the troops. That might be a ways off.

At Trincomalee Nick sets up a nice trap with the KB just in case I'm planned a day 2 strike. I knew enough not to push my luck there. he doesn't miss a beat to use my enthusiasm against me if possible, so it's best to stay prudent and conservative until the qualitative advantages are there for the Allies. See map below.

CENT PAC: Shifting units around here to prepare to move to Mili, Maleolap and introduce some new units to Nauru. I've got two combat engineer units prepping, some arty, and tanks. Had a peep at some CVs up near Kusaie so all surface forces huddled at Tabiteuaea for a few turns.

SO PAC: Panggoe is getting a field built and soupy is moving in on LCTs. Love the big allied landing barges! Nice to be able to just send 2-3 a day around So Pac with no fear of losing them. I've got subs and PTs littering the slot, so if he moved something big in there it might not be healthy for them. Also getting some things ready to open some doors in SW PAC areas around the tip of New Guinea.

CHINA: The IJA shocks a tank division through to Changsha, not too afraid of messing them up at this point. Got 9-10 VPs for that though, which is good. That base is under siege and will likely not last much longer. His AV is about equal to ours, but I'm sure they're supplied, and they have tanks. In the mountains another hex is achieved, and there are only three blocks now before Kunming.

OZ: Units keep moving through the desert, but ht sway it's looking, they might be eclipsed by others racing by on the rails soon enough. I'll solidify at Esperance, then send armor racing to Kalgoorlie after shutting the fields there.

Of course, all that is dependent on the next few days going well.

SIGINT: Still getting noise from around Port Hedland, and the divisions moving. Interesting to see the SNLF moving in to Port Hedland. Maybe a replacement for the larger garrison moving out (and back)?

Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Port Hedland (57,129).
1/6th Ship Engineer Regiment is located at Port Hedland(57,129).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at 66,125.
21/4th Division is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Perth.
18/Kure 3rd SNLF is loaded on xAKL Tientsin Maru moving to Port Hedland.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 24, 43
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Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 48289 troops, 512 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 1664

Defending force 84953 troops, 272 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1967

Japanese adjusted assault: 24

Allied adjusted defense: 1733

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 72 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
906 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 24 (12 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 62 (1 destroyed, 61 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
59th/A Division
13th Division
70th Division
58th Division
68th Division
3rd Tank/A Division
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
10th Mortar Battalion
12th Army
1st Mortar Battalion
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
18th Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps
19th Group Army
6th War Area
29th Group Army
5th Construction Regiment
9th War Area
27th Group Army
30th Group Army
14th Construction Regiment
17th Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at 72,47 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14555 troops, 245 guns, 484 vehicles, Assault Value = 517

Defending force 16109 troops, 99 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 285

Japanese adjusted assault: 337

Allied adjusted defense: 184

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 37 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
548 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 65 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Guards Tank Division
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
10th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
35th Group Army

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 25, 43
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Ground combat at 72,47 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 14339 troops, 245 guns, 484 vehicles, Assault Value = 493

Defending force 15656 troops, 99 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 246

Japanese adjusted assault: 449

Allied adjusted defense: 217

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
283 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3198 casualties reported
Squads: 147 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 129 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (5 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Guards Tank Division
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
10th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
35th Group Army

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 26, 43
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Pre-Invasion action off Esperance (56,153)

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee

Japanese ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)

BB Tennessee firing at 5th Amphibious Brigade
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Nick's trap in front of Trincomalee. The KB would have made it a really bad day if I'd tried to go for a day 2 there. As expected, the fields are open and a much larger CAP is introduced as well. Looks some of the ships made it through the fires and are huddled in the port there.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 2:01:58 PM

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Go for a night port attack once your moonlight gets above 70 at Trinc. Is it going up or down now??

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 2:50:24 PM

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Go for a night port attack once your moonlight gets above 70 at Trinc. Is it going up or down now??

It's heading down now. No worries though. I bet there's time!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 3:16:54 PM

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Great strike on Trincomalee! Well executed - especially the way you covered the possibility of weather shutting down some bases.

You got 5 AKEs by my count in the Combat Report, and I don't see any on the latest map so he may not be able to reload BBs so quickly there. I'm sure he lost a lot of supply too!

About the latest SIGINT from Pt. Hedland - I take this to be the group that was recently at Broome stopping to fuel up before a high speed dash. I'm betting on a Fast Transport TF with SCTF escorting. He may be reinforcing Perth with fragments just to delay your reconquest. Using fragments means he can lose them in the end without losing the unit.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 5:57:33 PM

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Great strike on Trincomalee! Well executed - especially the way you covered the possibility of weather shutting down some bases.
You got 5 AKEs by my count in the Combat Report, and I don't see any on the latest map so he may not be able to reload BBs so quickly there. I'm sure he lost a lot of supply too!

About the latest SIGINT from Pt. Hedland - I take this to be the group that was recently at Broome stopping to fuel up before a high speed dash. I'm betting on a Fast Transport TF with SCTF escorting. He may be reinforcing Perth with fragments just to delay your reconquest. Using fragments means he can lose them in the end without losing the unit.

I was patient for this one. Finally got something to go exactly as planned even if not fully realized. More than anything this means he has to feel a little bit precarious in Ceylon and at madras. That is what i really wanted more than the sunk ships. But they're also nice!

Yeah, thinking about it, there could be 20k+ supply on the AKE alone. A lot more if the others were loaded too.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 6:56:49 PM

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IJAAF RnD

So, the sighting and combat with the A6M5c group over Trincomalee has made me have a look at the database, which updates arrival dates in conjunction with Japanese R n D. Another form of intel I'm not sure all players know about.

Since that late 44 zero showed up in early 43, I started wondering what else I'd see soon. With PDU-off I know I'll see a bit of everything, but how much I'm not sure. Here's the first look at the IJAAF fighters as they stand now.

The Oscar line has been heavily researched, as I would expect, with the Ki-43 IIIa showing up in late 42 and the Ki-43 IV likely to move up a lot from it's current date to near the end of 43 I'd wager. I was worried about the Tony line, and although there looks to be some forward movement, the Ki-100 will be some time yet since he has to go through all of the other Tony versions to get there. maximizing the majority of his groups with a 'better' Oscar makes more sense than fielding a few good Ki-100, especially once the Ki-43 IV arrives.

Still, against what the Allies now have the Oscar IIIa is a formidable plane. It's faster and more maneuverable than many Allied planes at each band, and it's range is a huge plus. It's also inexhaustible in numbers, and has armor for the pilots, so he can throw them around at will. Both this and the A6M5, A6M5b and A6M5c that are available are all better than our best USN/Marines fighter, the sorely obsolete F4F-4 at 318mph with mediocre maneuverability. No wonder I can't break through in the Buin Torokina area in spite of greater numbers.

The Frank is a good way off, and it'll have to face the P-47 and more Corsairs, plus the Spit VIII when it arrives. This period though still has Japan with a distinct advantage in the air, and that should continue until the Hellcat, which will only give us an even chance against the Ki-44 IIc, the many Oscar IIIa, the A6M5c and the George and Jack which will arrive soon.

So PDU-off is not a forsaken land for the Japanese player if he takes advantage of what is available. Hats off to Nick for creating a good strategic R n D plan for his forces.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 7:05:35 PM

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IJNAF-RnD

For the IJN side the A6M line is maxed out. This is good for point defense, but not so great for anything offensive. The shorter range of the later models actually can be a problem over days of flying with drop tanks and hunting a strike. I found that I had to continually monitor plane fatigue to make sure I wasn't sending out broken goods when launching a strike since their max range is 8 hexes. This can also be a problem when supply gets low and drop tanks are unavailable on land. Transfer distances are shorter and all of this means it's tougher to shift around and be as fluid as when you can toss an A6M3a group from So Pac to Perth in two days.

The Jack and George will be difficult to say the least with what I have to fight them with, and I just hope he can't use too many groups for them at this stage. The service 3 will take a toll though, and if he uses them in isolated spots, like Madras, that could go against him if I can ever actually shut the place for a day.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 7:28:37 PM

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The plane I was worried about is the Judy line, as he's already gotten the D4Y1. It isn't so bad now, as the D4Y3, which is the big jump to being able to get the perfect 8 hex strike is still far off. The Grace doesn't look to far forward, and the rest I'm not really so worried about.

The D4Y1 is still faster than any naval or marine fighter the Allies have, so that is a problem.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 8:04:18 PM

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Great AAR - most exciting and really enjoying it, even for one who doesn't own WItP or know the rules

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 9:20:37 PM

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Great AAR - most exciting and really enjoying it, even for one who doesn't own WItP or know the rules

Thanks! It's fun to do when I have the time. I had a lot more when the game started, but every once in a while I can do some extra.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 9:50:02 PM

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IJNAF-RnD

For the IJN side the A6M line is maxed out. This is good for point defense, but not so great for anything offensive. The shorter range of the later models actually can be a problem over days of flying with drop tanks and hunting a strike. I found that I had to continually monitor plane fatigue to make sure I wasn't sending out broken goods when launching a strike since their max range is 8 hexes. This can also be a problem when supply gets low and drop tanks are unavailable on land. Transfer distances are shorter and all of this means it's tougher to shift around and be as fluid as when you can toss an A6M3a group from So Pac to Perth in two days.

The Jack and George will be difficult to say the least with what I have to fight them with, and I just hope he can't use too many groups for them at this stage. The service 3 will take a toll though, and if he uses them in isolated spots, like Madras, that could go against him if I can ever actually shut the place for a day.

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Using drop tanks increase a/c fatigue! 3 years playing this game and I still learn something new every week.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/14/2014 10:45:05 PM

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Using drop tanks increase a/c fatigue! 3 years playing this game and I still learn something new every week.

I think it's not just drop tanks but the longer distances in general. With drop tanks though I note it going up a lot more quickly if they're used daily.

If for example you have units set for 50% CAP 25k alt at 0 hex distance, they will stay in the 8-12 range for a good while. If you increase that to 1 hex you'll notice a difference in the airframe fatigue and the pilot fatigue. At lower altitudes the fatigue will be less. For CVs you often have to keep groups flying at a distance for many days, and this is when I notice problems.

I was acutely aware of this during the past few turns as I'd had my F4F-4 groups all set to 50% CAP at range 5 while they traversed the area from Melbourne to Esperance. Once they got to Esperance about 2/3 of the Wildcats had 40-50 fatigue!! Then I had to set them for 7 hexes, with drop tanks, and prayed nothing struck because those were a lot of planes in need of rest.

This is especially true of the late war IJN CV fighters, as the A6M5c, the A6M8 and the A7M2 all have only an 8 hex max range which is of course what you want for the KB, so you have to keep them on that for days sometimes and they do get worn out.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/15/2014 3:36:24 AM

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Nice of you to post the screenies of the aircraft database ... but .... I can't see anything identifying which pic is which model of aircraft.
I find the whole database interface non-user-friendly.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/15/2014 4:42:00 AM

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Nice of you to post the screenies of the aircraft database ... but .... I can't see anything identifying which pic is which model of aircraft.
I find the whole database interface non-user-friendly.

You are supposed to have passed your aircraft recognition qualification!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/15/2014 5:50:07 AM

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Nice of you to post the screenies of the aircraft database ... but .... I can't see anything identifying which pic is which model of aircraft.
I find the whole database interface non-user-friendly.

You are supposed to have passed your aircraft recognition qualification!

Ha! Yes.

The top info is missing in some as I had to scroll down to find the date area. On the bombers all of the info is there, and on some of the fighters. I forget that I 'm familiar with the models of Japanese aircraft a bit more intimately than many players who don't venture into Japanese AARs as much!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/15/2014 6:11:38 AM

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This is the only one of the IJAAF bombers I'm concerned about, and its arrival is still a good way off. Even after arrival it'll take 3-4 month to get pilots well trained in torpedo delivery.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/15/2014 11:28:40 AM

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Feb 27 - 28, 1943

SUBS: Thresher misses I-156 near Esperance and the IJN subs appear to fall back.

OZ: In the SW corner of OZ things have settled a bit. Most of the stuff in unloaded and the rest will slowly be moved across the piers of the size three port, two ships at a time as they dock and disgorge. No air strikes occurred, and Nick says he was thwarted by weather. Probably a good thing for us, because even with 200 fighters on station, 300 escorted bombers might get through to hit a few things. Now with Spits on high CAP and a bunch of AA in the base it's less likely he'll set them to go. He's also scarpered from Kalgoorlie.

Most of the good amphib ships have gone over the horizon back to Melbourne, and they're needed elsewhere now. I've got to pay the piper on one that won't make it back for it's disband date. The CVEs will hang on until the other ships unload and another TF arrives. There is nothing I can see on the horizon, yet. The fields should go to level 3 in a few days and more fighters will move in, and then the CVEs can head back. I'll leave some surface forces nearby. The port has 198 mines right now with a few more on the way just in case.

Troops are now about 3 weeks short of Kalgoorlie, but I'm loath to let the tanks loose as the LR Netties could still give them some pain from Perth.

INDIA: The 4Es hit Dambulla to make sure that stays closed, and no planes were around to thwart us there. He's got 400 fighters in Madras now, which makes me think there could be some offensive missions planned. I've moved back a bunch of the 4Es to Bombay.

last turn I tried some port mining at night, and it worked! Much less than I'd set, with a lot of groups losing their way due to night, but madras, Trincomalee and Diamond Harbor all got some. I'll keep this up to see if has an effect. I know when I was on the other side it was often in the sweeping that I'd lose ships, but it did make me tentative about what I would bring into the base. That was with 500-1,000 mines dropped by B-29s though. This is a pinprick comparatively.

I'll also be sweeping Colombo to see how that goes with the Corsairs, Lightings and one P-40K group. One goal is to see how the P-40K can stand up to good Japanese fighters.

Through bombardment I found out the unit introduced to Madras is the Southern Army HQ!! Very interesting.

CENT PAC: A big CV presence appears at Ponape when I recon the base. This looks like the whole mini-KB including the Junyo, Hiyo and a Soryu class CV. I've gone in for one bombardment at Nauru with a home base of Nekefutau so they can get out of the area quickly. That base has been really useful in this game as it's got a good size 4 port and it's well out of the combat zone.

SO PAC: Supply and some troops moving around, but nothing major. The IJN is back at Buin in strength, but I won't pull the trigger this time. Once the light gets lower I mitt send in some PTs if he's still there. Or he may use Musashi and slam some poor developing dot base like Panggoe.

CHINA: Changsha is getting pummelled. The troops in the mountains are holding by a thread. At Chungking I've got nearly 4k AV and some of the Corps are fresh with lots of arty still in them. The base is surrounded on the four clear hex sides, but I've just moved into the forest fought hex off road and also own the hexes not the gray road SW. That should allow me to move forces in and out if he lets that continue.

SIGINT: Aha! it's finally on land! The 4th is still on a boat though.

Imperial Guards Division is located at Broome(62,127).
36/4th Division is loaded on a Akasi Cargo class xAK moving to Port Hedland.
33/4th Division is loaded on a Aden Cargo class xAK moving to Port Hedland.
2/4th Division is loaded on a Akasi Cargo class xAK moving to Port Hedland.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 28, 43
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Night Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 3

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24D Liberator laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Dambulla , at 30,47

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 16
B-17E Fortress x 15
B-17F Fortress x 17
B-25C Mitchell x 3
B-25D1 Mitchell x 3
B-26B Marauder x 3
P-400 Airacobra x 23
P-40E Warhawk x 25
P-40K Warhawk x 45
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 36

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Changsha (82,52)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 48109 troops, 552 guns, 240 vehicles, Assault Value = 2566

Defending force 83429 troops, 268 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1880

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
116th/C Division
3rd Tank/A Division
116th/B Division
116th/A Division
3rd Tank/C Division
58th Division
13th Division
59th Division
3rd Tank/B Division
68th Division
60th/A Division
70th Division
60th/C Division
12th Army
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
10th Mortar Battalion
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
11th Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
26th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps
6th War Area
29th Group Army
27th Group Army
30th Group Army
9th War Area
14th Construction Regiment
19th Group Army
5th Construction Regiment
17th Chinese Base Force

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Here is a shot of Esperance right now. All is well for the time being. We even inherited 3 forts when the base turned over without a fight.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/15/2014 12:06:33 PM

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Moving out from Esperance would include at least two heavy and maybe two light AA units to keep the bombers ineffective.

More micro-management time !!

You can see the availability of your various CW troop (Ind, Aus, Brit) with the Rifle '43 version coming on line. You will need to plan of which division get them first and develop plans to rotate them. I would use the "Stockpile" option for them to save enough to upgrade in the next few months. A full division can be divided and allowed to upgrade. BEWARE of some of the other devices in the division that can do so and then have the Stockpile option to "Y" for devices like the AT, 25 pound guns, and the small AA.

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Moving out from Esperance would include at least two heavy and maybe two light AA units to keep the bombers ineffective.

More micro-management time !! You can see the availability of your various CW troop (Ind, Aus, Brit) with the Rifle '43 version coming on line. You will need to plan of which division get them first and develop plans to rotate them. I would use the "Stockpile" option for them to save enough to upgrade in the next few months. A full division can be divided and allowed to upgrade. BEWARE of some of the other devices in the division that can do so and then have the Stockpile option to "Y" for devices like the AT, 25 pound guns, and the small AA.

It'll be a bit before we can get over to Kalgoorlie. I agree it would take some good protection.

I've been thinking about the upgrades and I'l start with some divisions that aren't quite filled out and work up to full divisions. That way the ones filling out can continue to take replacement while others fill out. If not they'll be stuck small for a long while as the 42 squads won't be around anymore.

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About your ship that has to be withdrawn, you could detach it from the Amphib TF and set it to run full speed to Melbourne or wherever it can disband. You don't really care if it gets system damage at this point. Don't need to refuel it either! Swap out the captain for a poor one if it can be done without cost of PP.

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Time for your CVs to hit Ponape...?

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Moving out from Esperance would include at least two heavy and maybe two light AA units to keep the bombers ineffective.

More micro-management time !! You can see the availability of your various CW troop (Ind, Aus, Brit) with the Rifle '43 version coming on line. You will need to plan of which division get them first and develop plans to rotate them. I would use the "Stockpile" option for them to save enough to upgrade in the next few months. A full division can be divided and allowed to upgrade. BEWARE of some of the other devices in the division that can do so and then have the Stockpile option to "Y" for devices like the AT, 25 pound guns, and the small AA.

Remember to start small. You need only build up the squads for one battalion for each nationality (actually two is better) disband the first battalion and you now have about 70 upgraded squads. Upgrade the second battalion and disband, and you now have just about enough squads to start replacing brigades and split up divisions. Turn off replacements for all units that can take infantry during this period to ensure you do not drop down below the 108 minimum needed. Do this correctly and you should be well on your way to fully upgraded army withing two months of actually getting the first squad.

I typically break down most all independent battalions but you should always plan ahead and rebuild at least one or two before your new squad type comes on line.

If you have some depleted Indian divisions that are restricted, it may be best to disband one or two of them. You can then fully fill out the rest of your divisions. The real benefit is that you will eventually get the cadre back and can then change it's HQ to a unrestricted HQ for practically nothing before rebuilding. You will have to weigh the loss of the unit to the current fight but are reaching a point where you need to plan for the offensive coming a year from now. A full Indian division costs over 2,000 PPs to buy out and I find you reach a point where PPs really become your limiting factor.

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Remember to start small. You need only build up the squads for one battalion for each nationality (actually two is better) disband the first battalion and you now have about 70 upgraded squads. Upgrade the second battalion and disband, and you now have just about enough squads to start replacing brigades and split up divisions. Turn off replacements for all units that can take infantry during this period to ensure you do not drop down below the 108 minimum needed. Do this correctly and you should be well on your way to fully upgraded army withing two months of actually getting the first squad.

I typically break down most all independent battalions but you should always plan ahead and rebuild at least one or two before your new squad type comes on line.

Doesn't work for every nationality, but I've had success using base forces for this.

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/15/2014 9:47:18 PM

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Moving out from Esperance would include at least two heavy and maybe two light AA units to keep the bombers ineffective.

More micro-management time !! You can see the availability of your various CW troop (Ind, Aus, Brit) with the Rifle '43 version coming on line. You will need to plan of which division get them first and develop plans to rotate them. I would use the "Stockpile" option for them to save enough to upgrade in the next few months. A full division can be divided and allowed to upgrade. BEWARE of some of the other devices in the division that can do so and then have the Stockpile option to "Y" for devices like the AT, 25 pound guns, and the small AA.

Remember to start small. You need only build up the squads for one battalion for each nationality (actually two is better) disband the first battalion and you now have about 70 upgraded squads. Upgrade the second battalion and disband, and you now have just about enough squads to start replacing brigades and split up divisions. Turn off replacements for all units that can take infantry during this period to ensure you do not drop down below the 108 minimum needed. Do this correctly and you should be well on your way to fully upgraded army withing two months of actually getting the first squad.

I typically break down most all independent battalions but you should always plan ahead and rebuild at least one or two before your new squad type comes on line.

If you have some depleted Indian divisions that are restricted, it may be best to disband one or two of them. You can then fully fill out the rest of your divisions. The real benefit is that you will eventually get the cadre back and can then change it's HQ to a unrestricted HQ for practically nothing before rebuilding. You will have to weigh the loss of the unit to the current fight but are reaching a point where you need to plan for the offensive coming a year from now. A full Indian division costs over 2,000 PPs to buy out and I find you reach a point where PPs really become your limiting factor.

As a matter of fact I have built up some battalions. And I have got some 30-60% strength Indian brigades. And I do have some 20-40% strength divisions as well if I need them. I'll probably not disband these though as I've already paid for them once! Even if they don't fill out infantry squads completely ever, they still get a ton of other useful things. Even excess support can be useful, and there are a lot of small, less well defended bases I'll need to take or to garrison.

After my last struggles with the 42 squads I decided I'd be more prepared this time. One of the other benefits of having lost so many troops early is that I already have a good number of units bought out to unrestricted HQs. If I can get some of the others this time around I'll have a lot of free troops to send in 44.

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Time for your CVs to hit Ponape...?

My Cvs aren't close enough to do this right now. I wish!

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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjo... - 12/15/2014 11:44:58 PM

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RE: aircraft recognition training -

I have these from way back. --edit--

Two decks, sold singly - aircraft and ships. Really cool decks. Only played with them a few times as I don't want to bang them up too badly, but they're neat to pull out on occasion. Probably should've pulled them out while the GF's parents were in town, her dad would've really appreciated.

I knew which planes were which in the screenies ;).

EDIT: ah, here's the ones I have.
http://www.amazon.com/Naval-Airplane-Spotter-Playing-Bundle/dp/B0060BB110/ref=sr_1_1

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