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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 1:27:39 AM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. CW and French Naval (1 of 2)

The CW and French decide that the best way to help Poland is by moving their massive navies to sea and protect their vital shipping lanes against the threat of German u-boats and surface raiders. Also, the CW moves the BEF commanded by Gort out into the North Sea and under heavy naval escort. After all it's going to take more than naval and air power to win this war against Germany and punish them for their invasion of Britain's close ally, Poland. A few ground troops will also be required. This thing should be over before the fall rains hit!

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 1:33:34 AM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. CW and French Naval (2 of 2)

In addition to their naval support to the RN in the North Sea and Bay of Biscay, the French moved strong naval forces to sea in the Med to deter LL Duce from trying anything funny there.

Also, the French sent a sub group into the Baltic to raid German convoys that might show up to move resources from Sweden to Germany. The Germans smartly kept their convoys in port and protected during setup. However, the sub group is in position if, or when, the Germans move such convoys to sea.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 1:38:30 AM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. Cape St. Vincent

The CW, and French, take the protection of their vital shipping lanes serious, as demonstrated by the commitment of the RN to the protection of the Cape St. Vincent sea area. In addition to the CPs in box 0, the CW moved a 6-5 motorized corps to sea there for deployment to Gibraltar.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 1:45:26 AM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. Allied Convoy Routes.

After both the CW and French "declared war" on Germany, there was some confusion about intended convoy routes. The MWiF program decide to "help" me and route one of the four CW resources from the far East (and highlighted in blue) through the Med instead of around the Horn of Africa as desired. The result of this "help" was that 1 of the 2 French resources highlighted in blue didn't have a complete route to get to their intended destination. After taking the time to manually go through and set the desired routes for the four highlighted CW resources (around the Horn of Africa), both French resources then found their way to their intended destination. All in all it took me approximately 30-minutes of figure all this out and get the resources flowing the way I wanted them to flow.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 1:53:13 AM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. Strategic Bombing.

Knowing that this war will be won on the seas and in the air, Sir Arthur Harris ordered the RAF to carry out a bombing raid on German factories in Berlin. Also, he convinced his French allies to strategically bomb German factories in Essen. Apparently the French forgot to load their planes with bombs. However, RAF bombers found their target and reduced German production by 1 PP. Surely this will convince the Germans of the folly of invading Poland.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 2:01:10 AM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. Poland.

The CW saved 2 of their 3 allotted air moves to move the Polish bomber and fighter to Warsaw. The Luftwaffe has no organized fighters within range of Warsaw so the Polish bomber will be able to provide its 3 factors of ground support to the defense of Warsaw without interference.

Also, in a stunner to the CW and French, the Soviets move forces across their border to claim Eastern Poland and the Baltic States.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 2:07:04 AM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. USSR Angers the USA.

Not only did the move by the USSR to take Eastern Poland and the Baltic states catch CW and France by surprise, it angered the USA to the level that they pulled both remaining entry chits from the Germany/Italy entry pool. This means that the Soviet move into Bessarabia will have to wait until the USA cools down and puts two more chits back or risk a forever neutral USA against Germany and Italy. Damn Isolationist!

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 2:13:48 AM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. USA.

Speaking of those "DAMN" isolationist, the USA moved Nimitz's HQ and a AA division to the Hawaiian Islands and deployed them to Honolulu later in the impulse. In addition to the 5 CPs in the Hawaiian Islands required for the USA and Japanese trade agreements, the USN has 2 additional CPs at sea there. These 2 CPs will be returned to Manila in the Philippines at the end of this turn and will be used to transport the Philippine resource to the China once the USA "passes" entry option 9 (resources to China).

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 2:18:40 AM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. Northern (communist) China.

In Northern China, the communist move a militia army unit to block the pass to the communist held city of Tungkwan.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 2:21:18 AM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. Southern and Central (Nationalist) China.

In southern China, a Nationalist Calvary corps takes advantage of the Japanese focus being in the north to recapture the port city of Swatow.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 1:50:46 PM

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Wouldn't the Polish planes want to rebase to a neutral country to be interned, destroying the air units but providing the CW with the pilots? I don't think the bomber can escape if it gets used for ground support.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 5:54:37 PM

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Wouldn't the Polish planes want to rebase to a neutral country to be interned, destroying the air units but providing the CW with the pilots? I don't think the bomber can escape if it gets used for ground support.

Thanks for the tip. Live and learn.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 6:37:39 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Weather.

The weather roll is a 2, which is fine across the world. It's fantastic weather if you're the axis.

Both the Germans and Japanese take a land. Italy, who's still neutral, takes a combined.

The Germans will use this weather to finish Poland and conquer Denmark. The Japanese will continue their push in the north.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 6:48:39 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. German Invades Denmark.

The US reacts by adding a chit to the Germany/Italy Entry pool.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 6:54:22 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Germany Conquers Denmark.

Well, Germany unofficially conquered Denmark. It won't be official until the end of this turn.

1 Danish CP and the CA Peder Skram escape and make it to the UK. 1 Danish CP is captured by the Germans. The other Danish CA and 4 CPs are scuttled (i.e., destroyed).

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 7:00:48 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Warsaw, Poland. German Artillery Attack.

A 105 mm German artillery division shells Warsaw in a prelude to the final assault to take the city. While the Kakow 5-3 Polish corps once again manages to get through the ground strike organized, the Polish bomber and fighter units are disorganized. This means that the bomber unit won't be able to adds its 3 TAC factors in ground support to the defense of the city. And that the Polish fighter, along with the bomber unit, will be destroyed when the city is taken.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 7:08:50 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Warsaw, Poland. Land Combat.

Well total disaster is averted but not by much in Germany's ground attack on Warsaw. The Germans roll a 2 (modified to a 4), manage to take the city and avoid any losses. However 14 German units are disorganized by the attack. Note that since the city was surrounded the shatter result obtained (-/1S) meant that all Polish defenders were destroyed, not just the one indicated by the result.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 7:12:51 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Poland, Germany and France.

Poland for all intents and purposes is now conquered. von Bock is used to reorganized two elite 7-3 infantry corps and an AA division. German has begun, and will continue, the transfer of troops from Poland to the west for the pending attack on the Low Countries and France (i.e., Case Yellow).

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 7:17:11 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Nanyang, China. Land Combat.

In Northern China, the IJA has one more impediment to getting out the communist and that's the Nationalist held city of Nanyang. The Japanese roll a 1! Though the Japanese still manage to capture the city, it doesn't come without cost.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 7:21:03 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Northern China.

Umezu is used to reorganize three units, which are a 8-3 elite army, a 6-3 elite army and a 5-4 regular army. Given decent weather next impulse, the IJA should be able to clear the Chinese 3-3 blocking the valley between Shansi and Honan mountains ranges.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 8:00:17 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Germany Conquers Denmark.

Well, Germany unofficially conquered Denmark. It won't be official until the end of this turn.

1 Danish CP and the CA Peder Skram escape and make it to the UK. 1 Danish CP is captured by the Germans. The other Danish CA and 4 CPs are scuttled (i.e., destroyed).

How about if CW would land Denmark with HQ and Mech (div has no ZoC) and take northern port? Later bring more units and take HQ to France. After it was done to me I decided not to take Denmark with divisions anymore...

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 8:46:25 PM

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Yes, the CW should land adjacent to the division, because the hex is probably still not Axis controlled. After that comes a nice 13-1 battle and the CW can see if they can cause trouble over there. Since the Germans put far too many units in Poland and to few against the French, the CW isn't under pressure to send the BEF into France at all.

MWIF is just like chess. Force your opponent in doing things he really doesn't want to do. Mess up the enemies plans and you've won the war...

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 8:48:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

How about if CW would land Denmark with HQ and Mech (div has no ZoC) and take northern port? Later bring more units and take HQ to France. After it was done to me I decided not to take Denmark with divisions anymore...

Intriguing. While as the German player this would cause me some initial pain I might just prefer this. With the BEF in Denmark then the defense of France would be significantly weaken. And, it seems that four German infantry corps could keep the Brits in Denmark bottled up until pazners were ready to roll and take them out.

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Yes, the CW should land adjacent to the division, because the hex is probably still not Axis controlled. After that comes a nice 13-1 battle and the CW can see if they can cause trouble over there. Since the Germans put far too many units in Poland and to few against the French, the CW isn't under pressure to send the BEF into France at all.

MWIF is just like chess. Force your opponent in doing things he really doesn't want to do. Mess up the enemies plans and you've won the war...

The challenge for me as the axis in the early game, in this and other strategic level ww2 games, is not to let the allies dictate the action, even when they do something unexpected. Sure the could land in northern Denmark and seize the port there, but couldn't I then keep them bottled up with 2 or 3 medium strength infantry until I was ready to deal with them?

You both have given me something to ponder when I make my moves as the allies. Should I do this? The only way I can answer this is that I can say if I were the CW I wouldn't risk it. Maybe I'm too cautious though?

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 8:54:51 PM

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Keep an eye on our AAR for how well that 'deal with them when I'm ready' could go.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 8:59:08 PM

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Keep an eye on our AAR for how well that 'deal with them when I'm ready' could go.

The one that you and Mayhemizer are just wrapping up?

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 9:02:13 PM

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Sure, you can bottle them up. But it will need at least 4 reasonable good units to do so and they need to be backed up by the Luftwaffe with ground support availability. This is because the CW has all those large shiney BB's ready to start giving shore bombardment to make things very bad for the Germans.

Imagine the London MIL arriving in Denmark and a stack decides to attack a single German INF. CW puts in the BB's and there is a juicy 4-1 or even 5-1 if there isn't a German bomber to provide ground support.

And it gets even more difficult to contain the CW there, when the RAF gets a shiney Hurricane or Spitfire into Denmark too. Then Germany needs Me-109's too...

No, you've made a mistake, and the CW should exploit it. No waiting on what the enemy does first! They should be punished for conquering Poland and invading Denmark. Those countries are betrayed and the British Empire comes to the rescue.

And the nicest thing is: if Germany starts flying the Stuka's into Denmark to attack the CW there, the CW simply pick up the expensive units (like the HQ and the MECH) and leave the MIL to get slaughtered. And it's going to be winter too...

So put 4 units into Denmark by the CW and let Germany handle this...

Oh: and I forget the best part of this: the CW can just decide to leave the units in Denmark doing absolutely nothing but tying up German units by simply being there...

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 9:07:03 PM

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Sure, you can bottle them up. But it will need at least 4 reasonable good units to do so and they need to be backed up by the Luftwaffe with ground support availability. This is because the CW has all those large shiney BB's ready to start giving shore bombardment to make things very bad for the Germans.

Imagine the London MIL arriving in Denmark and a stack decides to attack a single German INF. CW puts in the BB's and there is a juicy 4-1 or even 5-1 if there isn't a German bomber to provide ground support.

And it gets even more difficult to contain the CW there, when the RAF gets a shiney Hurricane or Spitfire into Denmark too. Then Germany needs Me-109's too...

No, you've made a mistake, and the CW should exploit it. No waiting on what the enemy does first! They should be punished for conquering Poland and invading Denmark. Those countries are betrayed and the British Empire comes to the rescue.

And the nicest thing is: if Germany starts flying the Stuka's into Denmark to attack the CW there, the CW simply pick up the expensive units (like the HQ and the MECH) and leave the MIL to get slaughtered. And it's going to be winter too...

So put 4 units into Denmark by the CW and let Germany handle this...

Oh: and I forget the best part of this: the CW can just decide to leave the units in Denmark doing absolutely nothing but tying up German units by simply being there...

Aye aye, sir. Even playing solitaire I seemingly can be strategically surprised by my opponent.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 9:32:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Centuur

Sure, you can bottle them up. But it will need at least 4 reasonable good units to do so and they need to be backed up by the Luftwaffe with ground support availability. This is because the CW has all those large shiney BB's ready to start giving shore bombardment to make things very bad for the Germans.

Imagine the London MIL arriving in Denmark and a stack decides to attack a single German INF. CW puts in the BB's and there is a juicy 4-1 or even 5-1 if there isn't a German bomber to provide ground support.

And it gets even more difficult to contain the CW there, when the RAF gets a shiney Hurricane or Spitfire into Denmark too. Then Germany needs Me-109's too...

No, you've made a mistake, and the CW should exploit it. No waiting on what the enemy does first! They should be punished for conquering Poland and invading Denmark. Those countries are betrayed and the British Empire comes to the rescue.

And the nicest thing is: if Germany starts flying the Stuka's into Denmark to attack the CW there, the CW simply pick up the expensive units (like the HQ and the MECH) and leave the MIL to get slaughtered. And it's going to be winter too...

So put 4 units into Denmark by the CW and let Germany handle this...

Oh: and I forget the best part of this: the CW can just decide to leave the units in Denmark doing absolutely nothing but tying up German units by simply being there...

What if Germany abandon the Jutland Peninsula altogether for now? Just defending the German border and Zealand (with Copenhagen). More CW units in Jutland means less units in Belgium and France. Should be time enough to clear that mess up after the fall of France and before USSR and USA has entered the war.

German, and possibly Italian, naval bombers (with escorts based in Zealand) could make Fredirikshavn a dangerous port for CW.

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RE: Historical Global War AAR #2 - 3/31/2015 9:54:05 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #4. PM Neville Chamberlain.

In a speech carried by the BBC to the peoples of the Commonwealth, PM Lord Neville Chamberlain apologize for, "having the wool pulled over his eyes by that corporal in Berlin." He vowed that "that corporal" would rue the day that he made a mockery of the Munich agreement. To a stunned nation he announced that even as he was speaking a British Expeditionary Force was landing in northern Denmark and retaking the port of Frederikshavn from those Nazi criminals.