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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/13/2015 6:44:08 PM   
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Reminds me of various dog flea treatment and prevention discussions I've had with relatives over the years. They'd rather take advise from some pimply-faced puke working at the local pet store.

Could you elaborate - what diseases do dog fleas get that people want to treat?


Isn't there some pimply faced puke working at the local pet store that you'd rather ask?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/13/2015 6:50:54 PM   
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Payback. Ouch. Still, wildly inflated. That is twice the number of B-26's at Brisbane.

Night Naval bombardment of Brisbane at 96,160 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 38 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed on ground
P-39D Airacobra: 8 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 11 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
A-24 Banshee: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 5 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed on ground
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged

21 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
CA Haguro
CA Myoko, Shell hits 2
CL Yura
CL Nagara
DD Yamagumo
DD Yukikaze

Allied ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 48



The combat report doesn't describe it well - "38 B-26s damaged" actually means 38 bits of damage (holes) on some B-26 aircraft.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/13/2015 7:06:39 PM   
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Reminds me of various dog flea treatment and prevention discussions I've had with relatives over the years. They'd rather take advise from some pimply-faced puke working at the local pet store.

Could you elaborate - what diseases do dog fleas get that people want to treat?


Isn't there some pimply faced puke working at the local pet store that you'd rather ask?


Well, in my opinion.....

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/13/2015 7:39:16 PM   
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Reminds me of various dog flea treatment and prevention discussions I've had with relatives over the years. They'd rather take advise from some pimply-faced puke working at the local pet store.

Could you elaborate - what diseases do dog fleas get that people want to treat?


Isn't there some pimply faced puke working at the local pet store that you'd rather ask?


Well, in my opinion.....

Those aren't pimples, those are mosquito bites that caused some exotic tropical disease!

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/14/2015 2:30:15 PM   
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***************January 13****************

USS Hulbert ordered to defend against the almost certain arrival of WJD BB's. Hulbert go glug glug.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Noumea at 115,160, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
CA Tone
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Arare
DD Kasumi

Allied Ships
AVD Hulbert, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

A couple of AKL's unloading supplies are waxed and then the expected bombardment. Most of the planes have been moved out but two squadrons of SBD's are
left behind.

Night Naval bombardment of Noumea at 115,160 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed on ground

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato
CA Tone
DD Kasumi
DD Arare
DD Tokitsukaze

Allied Ships
xAK James Lykes, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Alabaman, Shell hits 1
AD Dixie, Shell hits 1
xAK Mangola, Shell hits 1

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Resources hits 1
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 20
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/14/2015 2:33:53 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Here is what they have at La Foa. The adjusted combat strength is shockingly low. Probably the 4th Div is resting.
A USN DD was sent via circuitous route toward La Foa. Either she did not make it or JJ sent their transports packing.

Ground combat at La Foa (114,159)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1815 troops, 21 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 383

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 23

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 23 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE La Foa !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+)

Assaulting units:
4th Division
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
21st Air Flotilla
24th Special Base Force
25th JNAF AF Unit

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/14/2015 2:38:48 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Ground combat at Lord Howe Island (100,169)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4024 troops, 29 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 60

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 56

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 56 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lord Howe Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+)

Assaulting units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
6th Naval Construction Battalion
35th JNAF AF Unit

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/14/2015 2:43:04 PM   
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Victoria Point captured.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/14/2015 3:36:06 PM   
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FAM: That was a stirring defense by USS Hulbert. What do you guys think about a unit citation?

Odd rooking ferrow in fresh Hawaiian shirt: Who accept unit citation? Hahahaha.


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/17/2015 6:24:12 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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FAM:..now wait, what do you mean "not enough interest"? It's a world war. Hundreds or perhaps thousands of people are being killed
daily, and no small number of them in the South Pacific recently, I might add.

Young enthusiastic US Army sergeant in impossibly well pressed uniform: No sir, not the war. As you say, wars have a habit of attracting
attention. I mean the after action report.

FAM: What the Hell is that? And why should I care.

Young enthusiastic US Army sergeant in impossibly well pressed uniform: Several reasons sir. Branding..co-marketing opportunities...product placement revenue..
merchandising.

FAM: Merchandising?

Young enthusiastic US Army sergeant in impossibly well pressed uniform: Sure..CentPac coffee mugs..branded 40 mm shell casings..salted sea urchin roe..endless really

FAM: Well, what do you suggest, more nudity?

Young enthusiastic US Army sergeant in impossibly well pressed uniform: Oh, heavens no, that's so 30's. I'm talking about acquiring readers with a modest expenditure.

FAM: Wait a minute, do you mean money?

Young enthusiastic US Army sergeant in impossibly well pressed uniform: I would say "capital" sir, but yes. Everyone's doing it. Even in Presidential campaigns.

FAM: What? You don't mean FDR do you?

Young enthusiastic US Army sergeant in impossibly well pressed uniform: <makes "quiet" signal with two fingers near lips>



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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/17/2015 7:02:14 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/17/2015 8:15:37 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/17/2015 9:18:08 PM   
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You need a monkey. Ever since I got one, my AAR has taken off!




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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 12:25:37 AM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 2:03:28 AM   
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You need a monkey. Ever since I got one, my AAR has taken off!






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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 2:47:53 PM   
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Which current US presidential candidate actually made a contract with M&M Enterprises, Political Consulting Division and purchased half of that candidates Facebook followers?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 3:00:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another interesting thing. The two games are about a month apart with a very similar focus of attack in Oz and the South Pacific.

I think there is a cross-pollination of strategies going on. JJ bombards Brisbane in WWII(e) and only loses one ship so Mandrake-san does same thing in WWII(d). They lose Hayashio, we lose
Oshio.

Mandrake-san try Rord Howe Gambit in WWII(d) and it-ah not rearry work but the Japs pull it off in WWII(e).



This brings up a quite interesting meta-game possibility. Suppose you purposely come up with a really crappy plan in one war to try to get the enemy in the OTHER war to copy it.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 3:20:21 PM   
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Another interesting thing. The two games are about a month apart with a very similar focus of attack in Oz and the South Pacific.

I think there is a cross-pollination of strategies going on. JJ bombards Brisbane in WWII(e) and only loses one ship so Mandrake-san does same thing in WWII(d). They lose Hayashio, we lose
Oshio.

Mandrake-san try Rord Howe Gambit in WWII(d) and it-ah not rearry work but the Japs pull it off in WWII(e).



This brings up a quite interesting meta-game possibility. Suppose you purposely come up with a really crappy plan in one war to try to get the enemy in the OTHER war to copy it.

NOW you are thinking like a great strategist!
The trick is to make it believable so you will have to use e-mail to inflate successes and minimize losses in the crappy plan!

On the preceding question -- Marco Rubio? Sounds like something a politician with a niche market position might do to broaden his base.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 3:23:02 PM   
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Suppose you purposely come up with a really crappy plan in one war to try to get the enemy in the OTHER war to copy it.


Hai! Your attack on SE Australia in the other war will be an inspiration to many.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 3:32:16 PM   
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On the preceding question -- Marco Rubio? Sounds like something a politician with a niche market position might do to broaden his base.


Nope, not Rubio as far as I know. Think bigger thighs.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 3:33:46 PM   
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Suppose you purposely come up with a really crappy plan in one war to try to get the enemy in the OTHER war to copy it.


Hai! Your attack on SE Australia in the other war will be an inspiration to many.


NONSENSE! The carrier sortie into the Bismarck Sea easily eclipses that.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 3:36:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Chickenboy san guess-does this campaign still correct rarge donations from foreign nationars and foreign government interests? Does-ah this campaign erase arr inconvenient records earry and often? This campaign rook rike reft coast Kampeitei?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 3:37:24 PM   
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Think bigger thighs.






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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 4:02:33 PM   
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Another interesting thing. The two games are about a month apart with a very similar focus of attack in Oz and the South Pacific.

I think there is a cross-pollination of strategies going on. JJ bombards Brisbane in WWII(e) and only loses one ship so Mandrake-san does same thing in WWII(d). They lose Hayashio, we lose
Oshio.

Mandrake-san try Rord Howe Gambit in WWII(d) and it-ah not rearry work but the Japs pull it off in WWII(e).



This brings up a quite interesting meta-game possibility. Suppose you purposely come up with a really crappy plan in one war to try to get the enemy in the OTHER war to copy it.

I thought you did that with Rord Howe Isrand? Maybe rike Piranha Brothers need to think up "other, other pran"?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 5:51:20 PM   
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Chickenboy san guess-does this campaign still correct rarge donations from foreign nationars and foreign government interests? Does-ah this campaign erase arr inconvenient records earry and often? This campaign rook rike reft coast Kampeitei?


Chickenboy is very, very warm. I'm going to turn over all the cards and call this one solved.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 11:24:53 PM   
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Another interesting thing. The two games are about a month apart with a very similar focus of attack in Oz and the South Pacific.
. Suppose you purposely come up with a really crappy plan in one war to try to get the enemy in the OTHER war to copy it. D


Two problems.
1) You've given away the meta game plan about plans
2) They can just as easily copy your plans that work. Of course if you do find a plan that works you can then prepare to counter it in the other war. Fortunately this shouldnt be a problem very often

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 11:52:44 PM   
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Another interesting thing. The two games are about a month apart with a very similar focus of attack in Oz and the South Pacific.
. Suppose you purposely come up with a really crappy plan in one war to try to get the enemy in the OTHER war to copy it. D


Two problems.
1) You've given away the meta game plan about plans
2) They can just as easily copy your plans that work. Of course if you do find a plan that works you can then prepare to counter it in the other war. Fortunately this shouldnt be a problem very often



I'm going to tell Mandrake-san about that! Then who will be laughing, eh?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/18/2015 11:56:52 PM   
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Another interesting thing. The two games are about a month apart with a very similar focus of attack in Oz and the South Pacific.
. Suppose you purposely come up with a really crappy plan in one war to try to get the enemy in the OTHER war to copy it. D


Two problems.
1) You've given away the meta game plan about plans
2) They can just as easily copy your plans that work. Of course if you do find a plan that works you can then prepare to counter it in the other war. Fortunately this shouldnt be a problem very often



You know, I might be using two IP numbers to post as you as part of a mind-boggling multi-year meta-game.
In fact, you might not be real. How does it feel to be a cover story, eh?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/19/2015 1:52:00 AM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 4/19/2015 1:54:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm really enjoying that the two wars are close in timeline and focus. This AAR gives me a yardstick to check our performance against in the other game. Plus it means I've got somewhere to get a regular dose of Mandrake San and Sprior humor.


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