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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 10:06:48 AM   
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No more for 50 days when I get two more 18 plane Sentai of Irvings (they come on with only 2 planes) & and 10 days after that another group of 18.

As you can see, two of Irving squadrons withdraw in July of 1944. Peachy.






Since night bombing has started, I am activating emergency plane 1: The KAI Dinah (day fighter), Alf and Petes will get sent to important airplane factory bases and set to 10% CAP to at least fly interference.

It could be far worse. Yes, he will destroy my industry, but it would be even worse would he target the night fighter factories. I do have generous pools of both flavors of Irvings, but there now are 0 Nicks in the pools. Heck, they just started production this month.



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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 10:38:14 AM   
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I would like to hit the CVEs, but maybe it is just as well they are leaving. This will allow me to build up my Kamikaze squadrons for the next time they rear their head. My one long range Helen Kamikaze unit just took replacements and too few planes are repaired for a parting strike. Perhaps they will loiter out there providing LRCAP for incoming convoys.

Their planes are limited in altitude, and I think I will be able to put a real hurt on them. Hey, I can dream can't I?

Large dogfights over Kushiro, Shikotan and Kunashiri today. 48 Thunderbolts at 41K at Kushiro are tough, tough, tough. I manage to down 2. No Lightnings, either he is saving those for sweeps or he used them to protect Bihoro.

I manage to lose a tad less than 84 total fighters, 40+ of which were Tojos getting dived on by the Thunderbolt and a dozen Oscars hoping to run into F4F at Shikotan and instead hitting F6Fs, but in return I destroyed 61 Allied fighters... 34 F6F, and 24 Corsairs of all flavors.

So that is a pretty decent day in the air, I think.




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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 10:47:34 AM   
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Japanese artillery bombards the Allied tank army at Rahaeng most days, depending upon supplies, and they continue to kill four of five vehicles each day. Rather meaningless now, I guess, and the defenders here are all doomed as no more troops will flow in until the front reaches China, but the Japanese economy will be up in flames well before then I think. Maybe not, at least there are two or three squadrons of B24J attacking the ground forces here and not in Honshu torching homes.






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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 11:01:40 AM   
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Continue moving everything back to the HI that I can.

Sweep Kushiro again. Sweep one hex west of Kushiro (10 units of enemy troops). Sweep Shikotan and Bihoro.

I think I will use a horde of Oscars to strafe the PT boat west of Kushiro.

A fair sized divebomber attack on the 7 fletchers standing guard one hex outside of Kushiro (tried this before and they moved down to bombard Ustonomiya one hex out of range). Or whatever is within four hexes of Ominato. More planes set to naval to try and catch some more of the prowling destroyers, especially should they travel down Honshu's coast.

Reinforce Hokkaido.

Beef up the night fighters with KAI Dinah, Petes, and Alf. Double check AA placements and radar sets. Build forts on Honshu.






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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 11:22:38 AM   
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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 11:48:27 AM   
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So, what is the actual KB composition nowadays? Is it accurate calling it KB?


Amagi, Kaga, Soryu, Hiryu, Floats: Nisshin and Hyuga.

I still have a bunch of CVEs...

PS: In 4 days I get the Unryu too.

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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 11:54:23 AM   
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My altitude was a little high, so I am lowering it to 6K.

It would be nice to kill these guys at night, but that is asking too much I think of the Nick D. I will be happy if I can keep them damaged and on the ground repairing.




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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 2:32:06 PM   
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I counted 22 Destroyers or light cruisers or cruisers operating outside of Kushiro...I can't tolerate this. So far I have let them wonder around, and once I tried a smallish strike against them and missed by one hex.

So today the orders have gone forth. The empires dive bombers, Lillys, Judys, Myojos and even Vals are sallying forth in large numbers to see what we can accomplish. Of course some will be escorted, actually all but the Lillys in Rashin have escorts.

There is one group of half ready Kamikazes. I probably shouldn't have put them in, as they needed another day, but today is the attack not tomorrow. So, we will see if the Myojo can hit. If not it is only a dozen or so planes instead of 33.

There is also one squadron of torpedo bombers, hopefully, if things go as planned they will fly last and put fish into some damaged ships.






Allied Deathstar is half way back to Marcus, so I won't run into them. I think he will keep the CVEs outside of Kamikaze range, since the high altitude attack, so the only worry is land based air and perhaps Lightning CAP.

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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 3:13:08 PM   
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You know, after looking very closely, I think all the CVEs are leaving for Marcus. There is a task force there with nothing but damaged CVEs and no planes if the recon reports are to be believed.

Good thing all subs are vectoring on them.

RO-100 was lost going after a fast battleship with the Deathstar.

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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 7:10:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone tried mass really low level sweeps with the Frank a? I mean really low.

Sure, you get dived on, but that is going to happen anyway. At least you have some maneuver advantage down low, maybe.

I guess it is a pretty stupid idea, but flying from a size 9 base a whole bunch might show up at the same time, lower, might mean less radar warning?

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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 9:28:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've accidentally swept low with planes before. It hasn't always turned out poorly.

This looks like the beginning of the end. I saw the screencap of the Osaka raid and just thought something kinda like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3-aAx4SOn0

Keep a close eye on his bases. If you can ever bombard and even partially disable the airfields, you need to be doing so. Keep his planes on the ground as much as possible to stave off the VPs he is going to harvest from bombing your industry. Of course, this might allow him to do more coastal industry raids on you with his own bombardment or CV strikes, but... his OOB isn't that big yet. Not until later in 1944.

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RE: Unorthodox - 5/28/2015 10:47:57 PM   
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This looks like the beginning of the end. I saw the screencap of the Osaka raid and just thought something kinda like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3-aAx4SOn0



You are thinking this just now?

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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 1:42:52 AM   
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We survive on the Honshu will just a little night bombing of the runways Ominato. Perhaps this means he is back to day time bombing?

The first George sweeps find some Hellcats straying outside of Kushiro, and there are plenty of Allied ships all over for our naval strikes, should they fly.






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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 1:47:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Our sweeps are going in nicely, unfortunately all the P47s are missing.

So they will either sweep us, or they are LRCAPing his ships. Whichever, it is bad news, especially should he follow his sweeps with 4E beasties.




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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 1:50:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, he isn't using P47s for LRCAP...most of the Oscars here die, they are untrained rookies, but every torpedo bomber makes it past the CAP, can they score any hits.

I was hoping for the torpedo bombers to go last...not to be.




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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 1:56:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Unfortunately, the torpedo bombers all miss, weather is bad. A follow up sentai of Vals manage to miss too.

Then a group of Vals attack some destroyers in better weather, and they start to make hits.

No sign of the Allies crushing me with P47 sweeps yet, perhaps a big escorted bombing run on Tokyo?




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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 1:59:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oscars strafing hit minesweepers...pretty impressive since their low naval is poor.




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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 2:05:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess my air sweeps bother the Allies...and Jugs will show up over Ominato soon enough.

The Ki100I is a great 4E bomber killer, this must really shock the Allies.




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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 2:06:58 AM   
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Oscars strafing hit minesweepers...pretty impressive since their low naval is poor.





So far as I can determine, attacks at 100 ft use Strafe. Also they carry 2 bombs each - a bit easier to hit when you're dropping 2 instead of 1.

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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 2:10:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		P47s come after about 10 waves of B24...needless to say Ominato will be trashed. The next wave of P47s in a group of 75.




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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 2:13:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		In the afternoon, the Vals return a plant one on the Biloxi. This will be an expensive plane day with the trashing of Ominato and in lost Oscar Escorts.




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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 2:16:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lilly strikes again...much more effective than junky Vals. Where are the Myojo kamis I wonder?




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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 2:20:03 AM   
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Over in Indochina we continue to hold our own in artillery bombardments.




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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 2:30:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		So the Allies do a number on Ominato in total about 400 planes lost all told so heavy damage. He had what seems like 200 B24J come at me...I managed to destroy 36 Hellcats and 24 B24J (so almost a months worth of production of the B24).

Now that he is sweeping with the P47s in number again, I will have to pull everything back to 10 hexes to avoid his sweeps.

My fault for staying one day too long, my recon showed only about 45 bombers.

But, in general, just glad he didn't bomb the industry or factories although that will come.

Very poor hits on the Allied destroyers and CL (only 2 on the Biloxi). Maybe one Fletcher sunk.

So, now we will be back to cat and mouse as the Empire burns. Osaka still has 480 fires.

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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 3:02:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Frank A starts production in Feb 1, 44. I am sure that will be as far as I get r&d wise. I have lots of engines stockpiled and big production, since I have no more r&d left for anything else but the D4Y4 and the Frank R. I see no reason why to put factories onto r&d for the Frank r, the ones on it now will surely be trashed. Perhaps I can find some out of the way locations the Allies might not recon, but I kind of doubt it.

Maybe excess production can go to the Frank r - it will occupy the Allied bombers for a night maybe saving something else perhaps.

So more moving forces back to the HI; perhaps I can manage a CAP trap again in Indochina. I left a size 42 Sentai of Tonies for that reason.

I doubt I see major Allied shipping again until he is ready to start either bombarding my ports or invade Honshu, although he could use the Deathstar to bomb industry/ports/runways too if he wanted to. So short AA; even Kure and Yoko just upgraded their TOE and will get close 54 & 96 or so 12 cm AA guns eventually but I think they stand at 20 or less now.

Well, any day were industry stays relatively intact is a good day.


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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 3:10:47 AM   
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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 6:57:32 AM   
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This looks like the beginning of the end. I saw the screencap of the Osaka raid and just thought something kinda like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3-aAx4SOn0



You are thinking this just now?



Well, unless you recapture Hokkaido and throw the Allies back into the sea you have only a couple of months before you will be out of supply and aircraft factories.

Given its only early 44 I doubt very much that you can avoid an allied AV on 1/45. IMO the beginning of the end was the loss of the Marianas.

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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 8:23:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
This looks like the beginning of the end. I saw the screencap of the Osaka raid and just thought something kinda like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3-aAx4SOn0



You are thinking this just now?



Well, unless you recapture Hokkaido and throw the Allies back into the sea you have only a couple of months before you will be out of supply and aircraft factories.

Given its only early 44 I doubt very much that you can avoid an allied AV on 1/45. IMO the beginning of the end was the loss of the Marianas.


What's all this gloom and doom?

Just keep plugging away Lowpe. Don't give up the R n D as you never know what might happen. He's losing a lot of planes too, and now some ships it looks like. It's all about the VPs here, and that's a lot of 4E downed recently.

He's got a long way to go. Jocke, with a much more advanced Allied air force, still took a long time to wipe my industry, and I was in a much more difficult place for supply than you are now. As devastating as that part of the game was, it was really fun on the days when things went our way, and those days will always be there.

I'd set your goal at keeping him from victory on 1/45. That's a long way off I know, but it's a fun and worthy goal. he hasn't done this before, so he'll make mistakes, and you as defender are in a position to capitalize on those. The sweeps won't always go first. The LR CAP won't always work. The NF will surely play a part one day and the Frank will add a bit of punch to your sweeps.

Have fun with this and keep on as you have been!

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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 9:11:40 AM   
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I don´t want to sound gloom but this will be over quickly unless you boot him off Hokkaido.

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RE: Unorthodox - 5/29/2015 9:55:38 AM   
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Yes, but I was for the most part flying B-29s from extended range in the Marianas. By the time I got B24s in range they were flying from small airbases in the Okinawas. The allies in this game will be flying from multiple level 9 bases within normal range from early 44. Just the ability to tap into the B24 pools for strat bombing of the HI is huge.

I don´t want to sound gloom but this will be over quickly unless you boot him off Hokkaido.


One of the reasons that all worked though is that my supply was low already. Almost no reserves. Lowpe has been aware of that this entire game, so even without the industry he could keep going as long as the aircraft pools were there. Some aircraft manufacturing will most likely continue for a good long time as well. You were able to target the most advanced airframes successfully but I had a gazzilion Franks, Georges, Jacks, Tojos, Oscars, A6M, and Ki-100 still going. In daylight any Japanese fighter can inflict wounds on 4E, but the sweeps will be the most critical factor in terms of success for the Allies.

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