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RE: 8-9 Jun 42 - 5/21/2015 3:46:13 AM

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That looks like a great result at Cooktown! Can you show the details re altitude for each side? I'm wondering what was your "magic bullet" for a little inspiration on my side because my CAP sure doesn't perform that well!

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RE: 8-9 Jun 42 - 5/21/2015 3:53:44 AM

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quote:

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That looks like a great result at Cooktown! Can you show the details re altitude for each side? I'm wondering what was your "magic bullet" for a little inspiration on my side because my CAP sure doesn't perform that well!

I am not sure it is altitude as much as distance and other factors. If the Japanese player has to fly toward the limit of his range while the Allied player is at 0 range it makes it much easier for the defender to do well. At least IMO.

Which is why I dont delve into the tiny details of aircraft capabilities.

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RE: 8-9 Jun 42 - 5/21/2015 4:35:00 AM

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That looks like a great result at Cooktown! Can you show the details re altitude for each side? I'm wondering what was your "magic bullet" for a little inspiration on my side because my CAP sure doesn't perform that well!

The combat report is below as requested.

Here's my take - but I'm no expert...
1. Raid was detected 114NM out - plenty of time for the CAP to get altitude and intercept.
2. CAP was stacked at 20,000 and 15,000 so I had the altitude advantage.
3. DBB-C game - P-39 seems to be doing much better than I remember in stock.
4. I had good pilots - but I assume this was a wash since it was the KB.
5. No sweeps, Zeros as escorts tied to their charges.
6. CAP was well rested and had good morale - assume this was also a wash.
7. Fight was over the Allied base, so many damaged IJN planes failed to make it back.

Afternoon Air attack on Cooktown , at 92,137

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 77
B5N2 Kate x 54
D3A1 Val x 45

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 15
P-39D Airacobra x 41
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 9 destroyed, 3 damaged
D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF-211 with F4F-3 Wildcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 4 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk IA (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
8th FG/35th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 5 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
8th FG/36th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 3 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes

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RE: 8-9 Jun 42 - 5/21/2015 10:24:22 AM

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Very nice results.

Point #5 likely the biggest contributor

IdahoNYer: interesting to hear that you are getting good results with the P-39; and at relatively high altitude

I am also playing DBB-C and I certainly don't like them, maybe it is random luck, but P-40 is my preferred 2nd place USA airframe (P-38 of course being the #1). In my game at least, when I have both P-39s and P-40s fighting Zeroes, the later do most of the killings and the former most of the dying.

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RE: 8-9 Jun 42 - 5/21/2015 4:57:54 PM

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Very nice results.

Point #5 likely the biggest contributor

IdahoNYer: interesting to hear that you are getting good results with the P-39; and at relatively high altitude

I am also playing DBB-C and I certainly don't like them, maybe it is random luck, but P-40 is my preferred 2nd place USA airframe (P-38 of course being the #1). In my game at least, when I have both P-39s and P-40s fighting Zeroes, the later do most of the killings and the former most of the dying.

I've grown to love the P-39 in DBB-C. Absolutely hated it in stock. The Tracker comparison shows some significant advantages over the P-40E which really surprised me: Speed, climb, maneuver bands and durability

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RE: 8-9 Jun 42 - 5/21/2015 5:25:14 PM

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Looks like it got nerfed - below is the data from the the National Museum - http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet_print.asp?fsID=478&page=1
P40E
TECHNICAL NOTES:
Armament: Six .50-cal. machine guns, 700 lbs. of bombs externally
Engine: Allison V-1710 of 1,150 hp
Maximum speed: 362 mph
Cruising speed: 235 mph
Range: 850 miles
Ceiling: 30,000 ft.
Span: 37 ft. 4 in.
Length: 31 ft. 9 in.
Height: 12 ft. 4 in.
Weight: 9,100 lbs. loaded

cruise and top speed greatly reduced...

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RE: 8-9 Jun 42 - 5/22/2015 1:22:31 AM

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Although I had been aware of the better statistics; somehow I just have worst results with P-39s maybe worst pilots, but both P-40s and P-39s had gotten the same quality of pilots (good skill, low experience)

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RE: 10-11 Jun 42 - 5/26/2015 4:32:48 AM

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10-11 Jun 42

Highlights - Darwin falls; Normanton and Luganville liberated and Cooktown holds its own against heavy sweeps.

Jpn ships sunk:
CL: 1 (Jintsu off Carnavon)

Allied ships sunk:
PT: 1
AM: 2
xAKL: 2

Air loss:
Jpn: 60
Allied: 53

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
Allies: 4 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Dutch sub O-20 hits a mine off Batavia; Hv Dam.

Jpn Amph Inv:
Togian-eileanden (DEI)
Busuanga (DEI)

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Busuanga (DEI)
Darwin (WAUS)
Tanahdjampea (DEI)

Bases Liberated:
Luganville (SOPAC)
Normanton (SWPAC)

SIGINT/Intel: KB disappears, but heavy radio traffic in Rabaul leads me to think it is there to re-plane losses.

West Coast/Admin. CV Wasp TF (CV, CL, 4DD) departs LA for PH.

In NOPAC. NSTR

CENPAC. NSTR

In SOPAC, Luganville falls without opposition. US CVs will head to Auckland, along with all Amph TFs to replenish. CA TF will remain at Noumea. No enemy activity other than subs. Will focus on building up Efate and Luganville for a while.

In SWPAC, three Zero sweeps over Cooktown are met by CAP which does well - about 35Z downed in exchange for 9 P-39, , 3 P-400, 3 Kittyhawks and 4 F4Fs. The IJN bombardment (2BB, 2CA, 7DD) do better than the CA TFs, giving the base a good pasting despite level 4 forts. Port is closed, but AF remains operational. 6 fighters and 5 bombers are destroyed on the ground. With the continued heavy pressure on Cooktown, was very surprised to find Normanton empty and was taken by an Aussie recon squadron. So, not sure what exactly is going on here - without a position at Normanton, his ground forces that were there (Bde+) are moving slowly west - aren�t posing a great threat to the rear of the troops at Cooktown. Shuttling fighters in and out of Cooktown remains the focus as the first regiment of the 40th ID completes landing at Sydney and will move to Cairns. I�m also bringing the Portland Roads PT squadron to Cooktown to try and hold off another bombardment attempt - which, as usual, is the major nemesis of the Allied cause in Australia.

In WAUS, Darwin falls to the first assault. Not surprised here, I had written it off long ago. It held far longer than I expected. Still, the loss of troops I had pushed NW to hold the �back door� was a complete failure. A very expensive failure. Focus will be to hold Tennant Creek. On the Port Hedland front, a sizeable IJN Amph TF was spotted by sub (which attempted to attack) SW of Timor heading NW - good possibility of invasion of Port Hedland enroute. Can�t do much other than reposition some subs. Port Hedland held by a solid Aus Bde, but supply situation is poor. Carnarvon is visited by an IJN scouting force (CL, DD) which engages the CA TF (2CA, CL, 5DD) in which CL Jintsu is sunk and the DD dam. The cost was 2 DDs heavily damaged (heavy synch bug here - the combat I saw on the replay was quite different!) The transports are mostly offloaded, and with the CA TF, will depart for Perth. If that is an invasion of Port Hedland, I suspect it will have more than a small CA TF in escort�.

In China, NSTR.

In India/Burma, shipping off Diamond Harbor is raided by Nells escorted heavily by Zeros. The CAP of P-36s and Mohawks do poorly (not surprised, right?), losing 12 fighters in exchange for 5 Zeros and 7 Nells lost in the raid (incl AA). Two xAKLs and AMs were lost to the Nells. Shouldn�t have had shipping around Diamond Harbor in the first place once Akyab fell. Fortunately there wasn�t much. Major problem here is I�m short fighters to cover both the Chittagong area and the Calcutta/Diamond Harbor area. Brit 18th Div finishes transshipping from Columbo to the port of Cochin and will begin rail movement to the Chittagong area.

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RE: 10-11 Jun 42 - 5/26/2015 2:29:18 PM

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Great news of Cooktown; it is unusual to get so good results against sweeping Zeroes. Maybe he is not using top notch pilots?

The closer the fight is to the rail line, the better it will be for you. In my game, I am having so many problems to keep supplied troops a few hexes north of the rail line... and this of course without fighting.

And you don't need to use Diamond Harbor at all having so many ports and the extensive rail network in India. Bombay, Cochin, even Karachi can be good alternatives

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RE: 10-11 Jun 42 - 5/27/2015 11:24:12 PM

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Great news of Cooktown; it is unusual to get so good results against sweeping Zeroes. Maybe he is not using top notch pilots?

I think its the 9 hex range from Moresby to Cooktown when the sweeps encounter heavy CAP - many damaged planes aren't making it back to base. That's just a guess of course...

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12-13 Jun 42 - 5/27/2015 11:30:01 PM

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12-13 Jun 42

Highlights - Pretty quiet - not a single air to air loss; Jpn mines sink one sub, damage two others.

Jpn ships sunk: None

Jpn ships un-sunk:
DD: 1 (Hayate)
SS: 1 (I-165)

Allied ships sunk:
SS: 1 (KX by mines off Port Hedland)

Air loss:
Jpn: 8
Allied: 12

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
Allies: 4 Attacks, 2 ships hit (xAK and PB dam)
Dutch sub KX sunk by mines off Port Hedland
Sargo crippled by mine off Port Hedland (will likely founder before making port)
Gudgeon dam by mine off Port Moresby (will likely make port)

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Pucheng (China)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: None

West Coast/Admin. Slow convoy forms up at LA bound for Auckland. Also forgot to mention that CV Saratoga began her upgrade refit last turn at Melbourne. She'll be out for over a month.

In NOPAC. NSTR

CENPAC. NSTR

In SOPAC, quiet as engineers do their work on Efate and Luganville. Convoy w/ a construction battalion departed Noumea for Luganville - and will be only covered by Efate based USMC F4Fs. Supply convoy arrives at Noumea and Noumea will start becoming a hub for transshipment in the New Hebrides.

In SWPAC, quiet over Cooktown for a change. IJN CA TF (2CA, 2DD) bombards Portland Roads (off course I moved the Portland Roads PTs to cover Cooktown) with minimal effect. Lex�s F4Fs and SBDs are brought up to NE Australia. Will continue to keep heavy CAP over Cooktown for now. Will expand to Portland Roads if it starts to be a target. Still not sure whether an invasion is imminent here or not. Beginning to doubt it. Sent SS Gudgeon up to Moresby to get a close look at shipping, and instead it just found a minefield.

In WAUS, Port Hedland is heavily mined - I know that by losing three subs in two turns - one sunk and two heavily damaged. Using subs as minesweepers is NOT an effective tactic! Supply is just not getting into Port Hedland, and subs are right not the best choice with the mines. Might have to risk a surface mineclearing effort. For now, two IJN task forces are sighted off Exmouth; figure headed to bombard Carnarvon. The sightings are vague, and they are either both bombardment TFs, or perhaps one is the Mini-KB. Either way, I flush most of the shipping out of Carnarvon and Geraldton just in case CVs are present. Carnarvon has fighters and USMC SBDs, but I fear another BB nuclear bombardment is in the cards. Will position subs to intercept, but that hasn�t worked yet in WAUS. Lastly, no enemy movement towards Tennant Creek, just trying to wipe out the remaining last three Australian units north of Daly Waters.

In China, Sian is attacked, and despite only 1-1 odds and a level 4 fort, the IJA only sustains 300 casualties and reduces the fort level to 3. Not good. NW of Sian, Chinese troops hold firm and incur moderate casualties on their attacks as the IJA continues to try and pocket the withdrawing Chinese forces. With the loss of Wenchow, remaining Chinese forces in the SE begin pulling back toward the interior and abandon Pucheng.

In India/Burma, the Akyab garrison has moved into the IJA rear - while I�m trying to get the two BFs back to Allied lines, the two tank regiments and two infantry brigades (all greatly reduced) are busy denying the IJA 18th Army supplies - as long as these troops are blocking supply to Akyab, I don�t see an advance toward Chittagong. Surprisingly, I haven�t seen ANY IJN activity in the Indian Ocean (except limited subs).

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14-15 Jun 42 - 5/31/2015 7:40:24 PM

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14-15 Jun 42

Highlights - Sian falls; IJN BB TF probes Carnarvon but does not bombard.

Jpn ships sunk:
xAK: 1

Allied ships sunk:
SS: 1 (Tautog)

Air loss:
Jpn: 66
Allied: 52

Subwar:
Jpn: 3 Attacks, 2 ships hit (SS Tautog sunk, xAK crippled)
Allies: 7 Attacks, 1 ship hit (xAK sunk)
SS Tautog sunk by I-154 off Carnarvon

Jpn Amph Inv:
Hansa Bay (SWPAC)

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Sian (China)
Endeh (DEI)
Komodo (DEI)
Ankang (China)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: None

West Coast/Admin. NSTR

In NOPAC. US CL TF (2CL, 4DD) bombards Attu with minimal effect. US BB TF (3BB, CL, 6DD, DMS) departs DH for a bombardment run at Attu. Focus of these runs is to inflict damage to slow fortification work as well as increase ships� experience.

CENPAC. NSTR

In SOPAC, construction battalion begins offloading at Luganville. Four US CVs (incl Enterprise) arrive at Auckland to re-equip air units from ops losses and repair minor damage. Debating whether to send the CVs back to support Carnarvon-Port Hedland. Don�t really need CVs in the New Hebrides and not ready to launch on the Solomons for a while yet. However, moving them to the western end of OZ would involve a certain risk if the IJN decided to land troops in NE OZ or counterland in the New Hebrides. The positive aspect would be to stabilize a deteriorating situation at Port Hedland and possible inflict some damage on the IJN surface fleet.

In SWPAC, it remained quiet. The IJA Bde and SNLF that landed at Normanton is slowly making its way west toward IJA units north of Tennant Creek. I�ve got a lone Aus Armor Reg in its way, and moving two infantry regiments in from behind. I doubt I�ll eliminate this unit - but I just don�t understand why L_S_T just didn�t re-embark it with naval assets.

In WAUS, the heavily mine damaged SS Tautog was sunk by an I-Boat off Carnarvon and an IJN BB TF roamed into Carnarvon - didn�t find any surface assets to kill, but also didn�t bombard. Marine SBDs managed to hit BB Haruna with a single 1000lb bomb. He�s got two BB TFs roaming off Exmouth - my bet is that this next turn, he�ll come in to bombard. No sign of any CVs or naval air providing CAP. Allied subs made 4 attacks on these BB TFs, none of which penetrated the DD screen. Allied CA TF (4CA, 2CL, 6DD) departed Perth and is now at sea over 500m west of Geraldton. While this TF can�t compete with one, let alone two BB TFs, it might be able to intercept and defeat one of the BB TFs AFTER it has bombarded. That�s a real long shot, but keeping that CA TF at sea for a while to see what develops.

In China, Sian falls in the first attack despite its defending Corps being well supplied and at fort level 3. Another 478 squads destroyed for no gain. Ankang, SW of Sian also falls - but at least this took two attacks and caused a number of IJA casualties. This loss does effectively surround another 4 Chinese Corps and support that have been SLOWLY pulling back from Sian. Again, I really hate China. In the air, the AVG attempts to support these fights with LRCAP, but is overwhelmed by Oscars flying sweeps, although it does give a good 1-1 loss ratio against the Oscars - there just aren�t enough P-40s to get through to the follow on bombers.

In India/Burma, the Allied airforces attempts LRCAP in support on the Akyab troops in behind the IJA, but get hit by heavy Oscar Sweeps before the Nells come in. Still, the Allied fighters hold their own, and manage to inflict losses on the Nells and Zeros. As with China, there just aren�t enough Allied fighters to get enough numbers through the sweeps. Also, I lose 15 pilots KIA this turn (as compared to 2 in previous air battles over home airfields). Its jut not worth the loss of planes and pilots - at this point in the war I�m too short airframes to fight a war of attrition in the skies. I�m at zero balance for Hurris, P-40Es and P-39s replacements. L_S_T has no shortage of either Oscars or Zeros. Until I get the P-40K in a few months, I�ll be very short airframes and have to be cautious with air losses.

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RE: 14-15 Jun 42 - 5/31/2015 9:28:52 PM

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New Hebrides to NW Oz is what ... 5 days plus refuelling? Situation will be much different around PH by then.

If there is a chance he will send a SCTF to hit the landings at Luganville, it might be better to lurk east of there?

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RE: 14-15 Jun 42 - 6/3/2015 7:56:08 PM

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New Hebrides to NW Oz is what ... 5 days plus refuelling? Situation will be much different around PH by then.

If there is a chance he will send a SCTF to hit the landings at Luganville, it might be better to lurk east of there?

Sure would make decisions easier if I knew where the heck the KB was! Gut feel is that a good portion of his CVs are going through refit.

You bring up a good point - I don't want the IJN crushing my newly established bases in on Luganville and Efate. That said, he hasn't shown much interest in the SE Pacific. Bit of activity at Tulagi recently, maybe worthwhile to check it out with a surface TF with CVs in the distance.

For now, I'm going to send two CVs to Perth. Two others will do some repair and probably hang around SOPAC until I see where his CVs are. Going to stay flexible...

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RE: 16-17 Jun 42 - 6/3/2015 8:45:43 PM

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16-17 Jun 42

Highlights - Carnarvon pounded by two BB TFs; BB Pennsylvania takes a torp hit.

Jpn ships sunk:
SS: 1 (I-29 after torpedoing BB Pennsylvania)
xAKL: 1

Allied ships sunk:
xAK: 1

Air loss:
Jpn: 22
Allied: 38

Subwar:
Jpn: 2 Attacks, 1 ship hit (BB Pennsylvania hit by 1 torp off Attu)
I-29 reportedly sunk by escorts after torpedoing BB
Allies: 6 Attacks, 1 ship hit (xAKL sunk)

Jpn Amph Inv:
Hansa Bay (SWPAC)
Gebe (DEI)

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Gebe (DEI)
Maumere (DEI)
Rambutyo (SWPAC)

Bases Liberated:
Santa Maria (SOPAC)

SIGINT/Intel: NSTR

West Coast/Admin. 25 ship slow convoy departs LA for Auckland.

In NOPAC. US BB TF (3BB, CL, 6DD, DMS) runs afoul of I-29 just off Attu and she puts a single torp into BB Pennsy with good effect (8/26/15). Escorts claim the sub sunk, and Pennsy stays with the TF, but does not participate in the bombardment of Attu - which is moderately effective. The TF remains at Attu and will bombard again before returning to DH. Pennsy will require significant yard time, once she returns to the US West Coast.

CENPAC. CV Wasp TF arrives at PH from West Coast. With the fall of Bataan, more and more subs are reaching patrol areas looking for enemy shipping. While damage inflicted is still poor, at least the number of sub attacks have been on the increase.

In SOPAC, US CV TF (2CV, 3CA, CL, CLAA, 8DD) under Spruance to depart Auckland for Perth and operations in WAUS. Enterprise and Hornet will remain to repair some system damage and potentially either patrol in SOPAC or possibly head to WAUS. Key to the decision is what the IJN will do - he�s still got the initiative and I�m not ready to challenge that yet. Will continue to build up bases in the New Hebrides for the rest of the month. Much IJN activity in the Tulagi area - light shipping, probably shuttling troops around - looks as though L_S_T has gone to prepare his defenses in the Solomons.

In SWPAC, staying pretty quiet - no raids on NE OZ bases.

In WAUS, two IJN BB TFs (2BB, 4CA, 2CL, 9DD / 2BB, 3CA, 2CL, 8DD) absolutely crush Carnarvon - closing the AF and destroying 10 P-39, 9 SBDs and 4 PBYs on the ground. Allied fleet (4CA, 2CL, 6DD) remains at sea as it would have been overwhelmed. This is why I need the CVs here - I need to get Carnarvon and Exmouth built up - I�m not able to get enough supply into Port Hedland, so if that is invaded, it will probably be lost - but holding these bases, as long as the KB does not come into play is feasible. Anywhere the KB goes is going to be problematic�

In China, lack of supply continues to be the major problem. Will likely lose those Chinese forces attempting to withdraw from Sian through the mountains as once again, I was blitzed by the highly mobile IJA. Guess we might be fighting at Chungking in �43�..

In India/Burma, the IJN has pushed some barges and xAKs to Akyab, so, his supply situation there is in fact hurting. Good. I�ll sortie 4DDs out of Calcutta to stir things up - hopefully they can hit what�s at Akyab and get out of dodge before the Nells come in.

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18-19 Jun 42 - 6/5/2015 10:27:42 PM

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18-19 Jun 42

Highlights - Fairly quiet other than the usual nemesis - IJN BBs return their attention to Port Hedland.

Jpn ships sunk:
xAKL: 1

Jpn ships un-sunk:
CL: 1 (Yubari)
SS: 1 (I-8)

Allied ships sunk:
SS: 1 (Sargo - succumbs to previous mine damage)

Air loss:
Jpn: 11
Allied: 5

Subwar:
Jpn: 2 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 6 Attacks, 2 ship hit (xAKL sunk, xAK dam)
SS Sargo sinks off Exmouth after hitting a mine at Port Hedland

Jpn Amph Inv:
Koifau (DEI)

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Little Andaman (Burma)
Larantoeka (DEI)
Togian-eilanden (DEI)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: NSTR

West Coast/Admin. NSTR

In NOPAC. US BB TF (3BB, CL, 6DD, DMS) completes bombardment of Attu and heads back for home ports. BB Pennsylvania and escorts detach, and will avoid DH enroute to Bremerton for extended repairs. BBs Idaho and New Mexico will replace Pennsy in NOPAC to support invasion of Attu after they complete refits in a few days.

CENPAC. NSTR.

In SOPAC, US CV TF (2CV, 3CA, CL, CLAA, 8DD) under Spruance departs Auckland for Perth. With continued light shipping activity around Tulagi, CA TF departs Noumea for Luganville where it will then sortie to bombard Tulagi and disrupt shipping.

In SWPAC, Australian armor gets in front of the wandering IJA Bde+ west of Normanton. Will attempt to destroy this force, but not sure I can get infantry up quick enough - 2/3 of the US 32nd Div and an Aus Bde moving up. That�s about all I can spare as the rest of the infantry is still tied down defending the coastal bases.

In WAUS, IJN BB TF (2BB, 4CA, 2CL, 9DD) bombards Port Hedland - along with Betty raids, the AF isn�t opening up any time soon. Engineers busily repair the damage to Carnarvon and if the IJN doesn�t return, the AF should be back in operation shortly. Tennant Creek reaches fort level 3 as supplies start accumulating with less troops to support (Bde+support). Moving US Div up to Tennant, but not sure that is a good idea as it will drain the supplies - but I need to defend it�.

In China, NSTR

In India/Burma, IJN shipping disappears before Brit DDs arrive, so no contact at Akyab. Nells hit Calcutta at night, and the Fulmar debuts in combat as a night fighter - scoring a kill. Nells get lucky and a single bomb hits DD in port - probably worth the cost of 5 Nells out of action. At sea SW of Columbo, a small troop convoy bringing troops to garrison Diego Garcia runs afoul of a roving AMC. No major damage is inflicted, and I�ll sortie the venerable CVL Hermes in pursuit of the offending AMC!

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RE: 18-19 Jun 42 - 6/6/2015 12:23:05 AM

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Tennant Creek reaches fort level 3 as supplies start accumulating with less troops to support (Bde+support). Moving US Div up to Tennant, but not sure that is a good idea as it will drain the supplies - but I need to defend it�.

That is the dilema, you can build quickly with less garrison, but then you might end building for Japan.
I would move it and then monitor supply. Have you tried moving a Command HQ? they supposedly force supply.

AMC Saigon Maru is a dog! even with a good captain. AMC are underwhelming, former freighters in particular as they lack speed.. it was not fast enought to catch your xAPs

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RE: 18-19 Jun 42 - 6/7/2015 7:51:38 PM

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Have you tried moving a Command HQ? they supposedly force supply.

Yes. Had Aus I Corps HQ up there and it didn't seem to do much - the max supply draw seemed to be the definitive constraint.

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20-21 Jun 42 - Battle of Luganville - 6/7/2015 7:56:52 PM

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Highlights - IJN BB bombardment express run derailed at Luganville (BB Fanboy called it!)

Jpn ships sunk:
BB: 1 (Yamashiro)
DD: 2
AMC: 1

Allied ships sunk:
CA: 1 (Chicago)
DD: 1
PT: 4

Air loss:
Jpn: 13
Allied: 13

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
Allies: 3 Attacks, 0 ships hit

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Tienshui (China)
Kofiau (DEI)
Sawoe-eilanden (DEI)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: One of the IJN BB TFs had a couple of the �usual suspects� that had been found in the KB - Kirishima, Hiei and Abukuma. Perhaps the KB�s CVs are in refit??

West Coast/Admin. NSTR

In NOPAC. US BB TF arrives back at DH while BB Pennsylvania and escorts sail east in the Bering Sea heading for Kodiak, then Bremerton.

CENPAC. NSTR.

In SOPAC, the big news of the turn is the Battle of Luganville. Two IJN BB TFs (2BB, 6DD /2BB, 2CA, CL, 6DD) attempt to bombard. Adm Scott�s CA TF (3CA, CL, 6DD, DMS) had just arrived at Luganville to link up with 2DDs detached from transport escort - where I was going to sortie to Tulagi (that would have been a mistake!). Instead, the first IJN BB TF (2BB, 6DDs) encounter the 2DDs, which surprisingly take a LONG time in action. One DD is sunk for no damage inflicted, but the IJN expends A LOT of ordinance in this fight - especially torpedoes which eventually sink one of the DDs. Next the IJN are intercepted by the PT flotilla at Luganville - which also fail to score (although one BB is hit by a dud torp), losing two PTs at the end before disengaging. Again, this lasts a while, and much ordinance is expended against the PTs. The main event is Scott�s CA TF achieving surprise with radar - initial contact at 14k, engaging at 8k. US gunnery is actually pretty good, with numerous hits on two DDs and BB Ise in the opening salvo. Range closes to 2k and a knife fight ensues, and a lucky torp from CL Hobart hits BB Yamashiro blowing her magazine! BB Ise pounds CAs Chicago and Minneapolis with numerous main gun hits in return sending Chicago to the bottom. CA Minneapolis is heavily damaged, but that�s as good as the IJN gunnery gets - few torps are launched, and no hit. BB Ise is hit by numerous 6� and 8� rounds at close range; nothing life threatening, but will probably require some yard time. IJN disengages after two DDs go down, and amazingly the US TF moves off Luganville temporarily - just in time for the second IJN BB TF to come in to engage 2PTs with no effect - but apparently enough to throw off their bombardment - only 10 port hits, and AF still under construction, so no damage there. Outbound, the IJN sink two more PTs, but miss Scott�s TF which returns to Luganville - allowing CA Minneapolis to enter port and put out fires (37/42/7). She�ll need some yard time, as long as she avoids subs enroute to Auckland. BB Ise TF moves slowly off Luganville (4 hexes NW), and with some luck subs might get a shot before she gets to Tulagi. Overall, I was VERY lucky here - the DD TF and PTs were key to IJN expending ordinance before the main event - just having the US warships there and no transports was a fluke. Luganville AF should be operational shortly and will continue to build up in the New Hebrides. I am sending CV TF with Enterprise and Hornet north to see if they can catch another bombardment run, as well as a CA TF (CA, CL, 4DD) to reinforce Scott at Noumea.

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RE: 20-21 Jun 42 - Battle of Luganville - 6/7/2015 7:58:28 PM

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In SWPAC, Allied planes hit the now isolated IJA force west of Normanton. They are still trying to head west into open desert, one Aus Armor Regiment stands in their way, with another moving up. Quiet along the coast.

In WAUS, Port Hedland continues to be pounded from the air, but no IJN bombardment. Carnarvon AF is back in operation and mines are laid the hex off the port.

In China, NSTR

In India/Burma, the lone AMC is hunted down by CVL Hermes and sunk - guessed right that she�d try and head towards Bombay/Karachi. Surprisingly, fairly quiet in the air.

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RE: 20-21 Jun 42 - Battle of Luganville - 6/8/2015 1:49:39 AM

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In India/Burma, the lone AMC is hunted down by CVL Hermes and sunk

Wow -- you don't see actually sinking an enemy ship in very many AAR's!

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RE: 20-21 Jun 42 - Battle of Luganville - 6/8/2015 2:48:07 AM

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YES!!! Give a promotion to the commander of that Luganville TF -- that is, if he didn't go down with Chicago! Now, do you think that battle will be enough to persuade your opponent to go easy on the bombardments for a while?

I'm curious about the Japanese AMC you sank near India. Was its presumed mission as a scout and/or raider? I'm wondering because in my game my IJ opponent has used 3 AMC in that role (that I know of) and they were sunk after being caught by my forces. Is this tactic a standard Japanese use of those ships?

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RE: 20-21 Jun 42 - Battle of Luganville - 6/8/2015 4:32:49 AM

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YES!!! Give a promotion to the commander of that Luganville TF -- that is, if he didn't go down with Chicago! Now, do you think that battle will be enough to persuade your opponent to go easy on the bombardments for a while?

I'm curious about the Japanese AMC you sank near India. Was its presumed mission as a scout and/or raider? I'm wondering because in my game my IJ opponent has used 3 AMC in that role (that I know of) and they were sunk after being caught by my forces. Is this tactic a standard Japanese use of those ships?

Japanese AMCs have float planes that give them a good scout capability, so many IJ players are tempted to use them in commerce raiding. They can be nasty to poorly escorted convoys but anything DD size and up can shoot straighter and go faster so their careers are usually short. It would be smarter to use their capacity to haul troops and just embed them in transport/amphib TFs.

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RE: 20-21 Jun 42 - Battle of Luganville - 6/8/2015 10:32:55 AM

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Great news about Yamashiro

!!
At last he paid for all the naval bombings he had done

Regarding AMCs, they come in many shapes; by far the best ones are the 2 former liners, the Aikoku marus. They are fast, torpedo and float plane capable.. These are the ones that are good for commerce raiding, but as BBfanboy mentioned too weak against anything escorted. These ships are too valuable to be expended on raiding IMHO. I would used them for surprise/ fast amphibious invasions.

The one he used is a Bankok maru class, a former freighter, it is slow, no torpedoes, no float planes. Not a good ship for raiding really, however, it can carry 75 mines, so it won't hurt to send a AM or DMS to inspect nearby bases

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RE: 20-21 Jun 42 - Battle of Luganville - 6/9/2015 5:23:43 PM

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Great news about Yamashiro !!
At last he paid for all the naval bombings he had done

Regarding AMCs, they come in many shapes; by far the best ones are the 2 former liners, the Aikoku marus. They are fast, torpedo and float plane capable.. These are the ones that are good for commerce raiding, but as BBfanboy mentioned too weak against anything escorted. These ships are too valuable to be expended on raiding IMHO. I would used them for surprise/ fast amphibious invasions.

The one he used is a Bankok maru class, a former freighter, it is slow, no torpedoes, no float planes. Not a good ship for raiding really, however, it can carry 75 mines, so it won't hurt to send a AM or DMS to inspect nearby bases

Great point about the mines! Hadn't thought of that!

L_S_T has used AMCs both as raiders and in amph taskforces. While they may not be very effective directly in a raider role, the THREAT of them being out there forces me to provide more robust escorts - such as my own AMCs or warships - in troop convoys. Running into an AMC with only an AM or SC as escort isn't going to go well. At this point in the war, the Allies are still short escorts of all types, and still can't cover all the oceans with air searches - so I think using AMCs in a limited raider role does have value. Finding a raider in a "quiet" back water can shake things up a bit!

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22-23 Jun 42 - 6/9/2015 11:55:50 PM

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22-23 Jun 42

Highlights - Pretty quiet; Luganville AF at level 1

Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 1 (Yugumo - probably was lost instead of Isonami from Luganville action)

Jpn ships un-sunk:
CL: 1 (Sendai)
DD: 1 (Isonami)

Allied ships sunk:
xAP: 1 (small)

Air loss:
Jpn: 26
Allied: 23

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attack, 1 ship hit (xAP sunk)
Allies: 4 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Three subs damaged by air attack, all should make port

Jpn Amph Inv:
Waigeo (SWPAC)

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Hansa Bay (SWPAC)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: Subs sight the two IJN BB TFs from Luganville confirmed returning to Tulagi

West Coast/Admin. Another convoy forms up at LA for Auckland. 22nd Marine Reg begins loading transports at Seattle, bound for Dutch Harbor and eventually leading the invasion of Attu.

In NOPAC. BB Pennsylvania and escorts will head directly to Bremerton. CL TF (2CL, 4DD) departs DH for bombardment run on Attu.

CENPAC. Wasp TF (CV, BB, 2CA,CLAA, 6DD) departs PH and heads to strike at Baker Is - just a pinprick attack to give the impression of CVs lurking in CENPAC. TF will continue to SOPAC. Was going to head Wasp to NOPAC, but instead will use the extra CVs to rotation the Yorktowns into refit in July.

In SOPAC, the IJN TFs reach Tulagi safely - two US subs got contacts, with SS Pollack missing BB Ise with 4 torps just off Tulagi. Will keep subs patrolling around Tulagi, and maintain air recon there. Ise was confirmed damaged during the sub attack, but not sure how badly. US CV TF (2CV, 2CA, CLAA, 9DD) departed Auckland and will head to a point east of the Santa Cruz Islands - if the warships remain at Tulagi, will look to do a quick CV raid. Luganville had its AF up and operational, and will continue to expand the facilities there (as well as Efate) for the rest of the month.

In SWPAC, Mini-KB is again in the Gulf of Carpentaria, supporting the IJA west of Normanton with some LRCAP. Zeros tangle with minimally escorted (a few P-39s) ground strikes, but lose 8 Zeros for 4 P-39s, 3 B-26s, 2 DB-7s, and 3 B-17s. I�ll increase the Allied fighters over the IJA force as the first infantry unit closes in on the IJA - one regiment of the US 32nd ID. Will continue ground strikes, but will also try to have B-26s escorted by Beaufighters launch against the Min-KB at low altitude. It�s a long shot, but its worth the shot, especially if Zeros continue providing LRCAP.

In WAUS, Port Hedland is swept by Zeros, but not bombed. Instead, Bettys hit an Aussie Armored Reg I had moving to Hedland from Exmouth. Small reinforcement convoy lost an xAP to a sub off Geraldton, with parts of a port maint battalion aboard. Carnarvon is fully operational and engineers resume expanding the small port.

In China, NSTR

In India/Burma, signs of shipping again lead me to send out a small TF (CL, 4DD) to bombard and hopefully catch some of the shipping at Akyab. Am gathering fighters again at Chittagong and will try another LRCAP effort on British forces east of Akyab that the Jpn air forces are pounding. On the ground, once the British 18th Div moves up, will move the force (about 2 Div plus support) against the enemy east of Cox�s Bazaar - I�m betting he�s low on supply from the British forces running behind Akyab.

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24-25 Jun 42 - 6/13/2015 6:16:28 PM

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24-25 Jun 42

Highlights - Stays pretty quiet; last Allied forces in NW Australia surrender.

Jpn ships sunk:
SS: 1 (I-153 claimed off Carnarvon)
xAK: 1

Allied ships sunk: None

Air loss:
Jpn: 10
Allied: 18

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
I-153 claimed sunk by convoy escorts off Carnarvon
Allies: 0 Attacks, 0 ships hit

Jpn Amph Inv:
Taliaboe (DEI)

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Waigeo (SWPAC)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: NSTR

West Coast/Admin. NSTR

In NOPAC. CL TF (2CL, 4DD) bombards Attu and remains at Attu. Amchitka AF at level 1, BF engineers embark at DH for transit to Amichitka.

CENPAC. Wasp TF (CV, BB, 2CA,CLAA, 6DD) closes on Baker Is; will launch strikes next turn.

In SOPAC, it remains quiet as US Navy is busy moving troops and supplies to the newly acquired bases in the New Hebrides. US CV TF (2CV, 2CA, CL, 9DD) to move east of Ndeni, swing west and raid shipping at Tulagi next turn. This is a risk - if the KB is about, this won�t be pretty. Following this raid, will possibly raid Ocean Is before retiring back toward safer waters. Goal here (and Wasp strike) is to give the impression of US CVs operating in SOPAC area - giving reason for the KB to orient here instead of supporting the anticipated invasion of Port Hedland - without KB in support, the US CVs and some LBA may be able to do some damage.

In SWPAC, Mini-KB continues to support the IJA forces west of Normanton; LRCAP does well against a small F4F fighter sweep, losing only 1 Zero to 4 Wildcats. Will reinforce the sweep! The mini-KB stays just out of range for any strikes. Will attack the IJA ground forces with the regiment of the 32nd ID and some artillery.

In WAUS, the last surviving Aus force (NW Aus Base Force) surrounded in the Darwin Debacle surrenders. What a mess that was! No IJA attempt toward Tennant Creek so far, and the US 40th Div has arrived. Which of course means supplies will be stretched and I may have to pull it back if I can�t sustain that much combat power around Tennant Creek. LBA hits the armor regiment nearing Port Hedland again. Port Maint Bn begins landing at Carnarvon as its DD escorts claim an IJN sub.

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In India/Burma, Brit TF (CL, 4DD) bombards Akyab with good effect, but doesn�t find any shipping. Moving at fast speed, they return to Diamond Harbor without incident. Otherwise quiet, I�m still trying to build up some fighter strength and hold off on any LRCAP or sweeps, which is a good thing - no Jpn bomber runs, only Zero sweeps on Allied troops east of Akyab.

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RE: 24-25 Jun 42 - 6/14/2015 3:08:42 AM

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Do you think he will go after tennant creek? is kind of far... and the deeper he go south, the supply issues will reverse

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RE: 24-25 Jun 42 - 6/15/2015 6:52:30 PM

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Do you think he will go after tennant creek? is kind of far... and the deeper he go south, the supply issues will reverse

I did at the beginning of Jun, but not any more. I'm going to pull back the 40th ID to reduce the supply drain - keep about a Bde sized force just incase.

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26-27 Jun 42 - 6/15/2015 6:57:42 PM

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Highlights - Continued quiet; Baker Is hit by carrier air, Allied troops begin attack on IJA west of Normanton.

Jpn ships sunk:
SS: 1 (I-4 sunk off Noumea)

Jpn ships un-sunk:
CA: 1 (Kinugasa)

Allied ships sunk: None

Air loss:
Jpn: 14
Allied: 4

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
I-4 (or I-23 in the replay) confirmed sunk on surface by DE Stewart off Noumea
Allies: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit

Jpn Amph Inv:
Lomblen (DEI)
Sansapor (SWPAC)

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Sansapor (SWPAC)
Taliaboe (DEI)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: None

West Coast/Admin. Fast convoy departs LA for Auck. 22nd Marine Reg convoy along with BBs Idaho and Mississippi depart Washington ports for DH.

In NOPAC. NSTR

CENPAC. Wasp TF (CV, BB, 2CA,CLAA, 6DD) launches two small strikes on Baker Is and confirms a small sized Naval Guard garrison. Wasp TF will continue west to link up with Halsey returning from Tulagi strike.

In SOPAC, Halsey�s CV TF (2CV, 2CA, CL, 9DD) is delayed by weather (or something) and doesn�t reach launch position off Tulagi. Will refuel and strike next turn. No sign of any major IJN activity. IJN sub sunk off Noumea after failing to penetrate convoy screen.

In SWPAC, Mini-KB departs from supporting troops west of Normanton - guess they are being abandoned. Lead allied troops attack and are held by the defense with light casualties for both sides. Enemy force is Guards Mixed Bde and 1nd and 2nd Maizuru SNLF. Will continue attack next turn with additional troops and increased air support.

In WAUS, NSTR

In China, NSTR

In India/Burma, NSTR

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