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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 12:17:12 AM   
Mgellis


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Hi Mark,

Any chance you could fill in some in-service dates etc here? And also exactly which units you need?

That'd be fantastic as it would save us a ton of work




This is what I could find out about Kenya's navy. I hope this helps...

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1x Jasiri class offshore patrol vessel (1,400 tons, 85x13 meters wide, maximum speed 28 knots (50 km/h), crew 60-81)

Operational: 2012-present

(long delays involved in getting the ship to Kenya; according to one article, “The KNS Jasiri was ordered in July 2003 at a cost of Shs4.1 billion (USD$52 million) and was supposed to be delivered in August 2005, but never arrived due to a contractual dispute between Kenya and contractor Euromarine Industries (with Spanish shipbuilder Astilleros Gondan as subcontractor). Euromarine sued the government of Kenya after payments were suspended in June 2005. The Kenyan government recalled its officers on July 18, 2005.

The 90% complete vessel is docked at the port of Ribadeo, Asturias province, Spain. In September 2006 Kenya sent a fact-finding team to Spain to investigate the KNS Jasiri. It concluded that the vessel just needed to be armed and complete sea testing and crew training before being ready for service.”)


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1 x P400 (La Rieuse, renamed Harambee II)

Operational: 2012-present

As far as I can tell, they did not change anything on her. This is a Google translation of a French article on the transfer (I take no responsibility for anything goofy in this translation):

“It is now called Harembee. The former French patrol boat La Laughing, assigned to the Kenyan Navy, joined this summer his new homeland. After a grip with its new crew and some work in Reunion, the building has come to Kenya, where he started its operational activity. Former French P400 will receive a discount at the technical level, on which the French company involved Sofrapie, responsible for the resale of military equipment withdrawn from active service tricolor armed and advised by including RVR International.

Nine of the 10 units of the type P400, The Laughing built by the CMN Cherbourg, was called to active duty in 1987. Long of 54.8 meters for a displacement of 480 tonnes in charge, building, reinforced by a crew of 30 sailors and able to reach speeds of 23 knots, has a 40mm cannon, a lookout 20mm machine gun and two 7.62mm. In 25 years of service in the Navy, The Laughing conducted numerous missions monitoring and control around La Réunion, the Scattered Islands, Mayotte, Madagascar or Mauritius, and has distinguished in several rescue and boarding. The building has come, under the French flag, the equivalent of 22 times around the world. He was officially transferred on June 7 in Kenya. In Reunion, it will be replaced by Le Malin, a former longliner arrested in 2005 and has just been turned into patrol.”

So, 2012 seems to have been a really big year for the Kenyan navy. Go Kenya!


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2 x Shupavu class large patrol boats

Operational: 1997-present

(the Hazegray site says 1998…not sure which one is right…maybe they were in service in 1997 but not commissioned until 1998?)

P 3130 Shujaa
P 3131 Shupavu

(from Janes Fighting Ships)

Displacement: 480 tons
Dimensions: 58 m. x 8.2 m. x 2.8 m.
Main machinery: 2 diesels, 2 shafts
Speed: 22 knots
Complement: 24
Guns 1 x OTO Melara 3-inch, 1 x Breda 25mm KBA
Weapons control: Breda optoronic director
Radars: surface search, I-band
“Built to civilian standards” in Spain

“Built to civilian standards in 1997 and entered service in 1997. Armed with a 76mm and a 30mm gun in Kenya” –Wikipedia (not sure if the 25mm or 30mm gun is correct, but Janes has “(P 3130)” after the information on the 25mm gun, so perhaps one has a 30mm and one has a 25mm?)

I could not find information for fuel tanks, range, etc., but the USCG Sentinel-class, a similar vessel (46.8 m instead of 58) has a range of 2,500 miles, if that helps.


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2 x Nyayo Class missile boats
P3126 KNS Nyayo
P3127 KNS Umoja

Operational: 1989-present (Janes says they were commissioned in 1987 but no live missile test until 1989)

From Wikipedia: Built by Vosper Thornycroft, these are similar to the Omani Province class, and were delivered in 1987. Armed with 4 Otomat SSM, 1 76 mm OTO DP, 1 dual 30 mm AA, 2 20 mm machine guns.


From March 2009 to July 2011 these ships underwent an extensive refit at Fincantieri's Muggiano shipyard in northern Italy, during which their surface-to-surface missile (SSM) systems were removed, effectively reducing the vessels to an OPV configuration. Ships of this class are 57 meters long, displace 450 tonnes and have a crew of 45.

Janes Fighting Ships lists them as having 2 Wallop Barricade 18-barrelled launchers w. Stockade and Palisdae rockets
Speed 40 knots
Range: 2,000 miles at 18 knots
Complement: 40
ESM: Racal Cutlass; radar warning
ECM: Racal Cygnus; jammer
Weapons control: CAAIS 450
Radars: Surface search: Plessey AWS 4; E/F-band range 101 km/55 nm
Navigation: Decca AC 1226; I-band
Fire control: Marconi ST802; I-band

Notes in Janes Fighting Ships says "similar to Omani Province class" and they carry 1 RIB (RHIB?) "carried right aft"

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2 x Galana-class LCM

L 38 Galana
L 39 Tana

Operational: 1994-present

Janes Fighting Ships says…


Displacement: 1400 tons
Dimensions: 63.5m x 13.3m x 2.4m
Main machinery: 2 MTU/Bazan diesels 2,700 hp sustained; 2 shafts; bow thruster
Speed: 12.5 knots
Complement: 30
Radar: navigational, Racal Decca, I-band
4m-wide ramp “is capable of taking 70 ton loads”


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1 x Mamba-class large patrol boat/missile boat
P 3100 Mamba

Operational: 1974-present

Displacement: 125 tons, 160 tons full load
Dimensions: 37.5m x 6.9m. x 1.6m
Main machinery: 2 Paxman 16YJCM diesels; 4000 hp sustained; 2 shafts
Speed: 25 knots; Range: 3,300 miles at 13 kt
Complement: 25 (3 officers)
Missiles: 4 x IAI Gabriel II
Guns: 2 Oerlikon/BMARC 30 mm GCM-AO2 (twin)
Radars: Navigational Decca AC 1226; I-band
Fire control: Selenia RTN 10x; I/J-band; range 40 km.


Refitted at Vosper Thornycroft 1989-1990; missiles no longer operational (since 1990?)



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3 x Brooke Marine type patrol boat

P 3121 Madaraka
P 3122 Jamhuri
P 3123 Hamambee

Operational: 1975-2001 (not sure of dates, but the Hazegray site says one was still active and two in reserve in 2001)

Janes Fighting Ships says…

Displacement: 120 tons standard, 145 tons full load
Dimensions: 32.6 m. x 6.1 m. x 1.7 m
Main engines: 2 Paxman 16-cyl Valenta diesels; 5400 bph, 2 shafts
Top speed: 25.5 knots
Range: 2,500 miles at 12 knots
Guns: 2 x 40 mm.
Missiles: none, until 1983, then 4 x IAI Gabriel II
Complement: 21 (3 officers)


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3 x Simba-class (?) Vosper type large patrol boats
P 3110 Simba
P 3112 Chui
P 3117 Ndovu

Janes Fighting Ships says…

Operational: 1966- 1997 (some disagreement in sources, but Wikipedia provides the only date for actual decommissioning)

Displacement: 96 tons standard; 109 tons full load
Dimensions: 31.4 m x 6 m. x 1.8 m
Guns: 2 x 40 mm.
Main engines: 2 x Paxman Ventura diesels; 2800 bhp
Speed 24 knots
Range: 1500 miles at 16 knots
Complement: 23 (3 officers)

(notes include that they are air-conditioned! thank goodness for that!)



Sources

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/other_navies.htm

http://johnkaranja.com/2008/12/22/kenyas-armed-forces-pictures-and-facts/

http://www.airforceworld.com/attacker/eng/h6-helicopter-mh6-oh6-usaf-us-army.htm

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23341:kenya-to-receive-long-delayed-offshore-patrol-vessel-kns-jasiri&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/kenya/air-force-equipment.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/kenya/air-force-history.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/kenya/air-force-modernization.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/kenya/air-force-modernization.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/kenya/navy.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/kenya/navy-equipment.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/kenya/navy-history.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/kenya/navy-modernization.htm

http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/africa/africa.htm

http://www.helis.com/database/modelorg/1433/

http://www.meretmarine.com/fr

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_Air_Force

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_Navy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDBB27PmZ8Y <-- history of Kenyan navy video



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 12:49:05 AM   
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 1:02:38 AM   
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In a half joking bit of news, can the F-35 maneuverability be downgraded to match the leaked test report?



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 1:52:15 AM   
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Anyway, I'd say that it is more a 4.0 than a 4.5, the report is pretty conclusive about severe maneuvering disadvantages and nothing from the JPO office suggests that the plane will claw back any performance. The F-35 was also in a lower weight configuration than an operational missile, e.g. no weapons, so this is near maximum performance before engine improvements

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 2:49:12 AM   
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Everything on this page; some is already there in the database but several are missing. E.g., the Soviets have Kolchuga, Soft Ball, and Trash Can, but they are missing, e.g., PRP-1, SDR-2, and 85V6 Vega / Orion.

Don't have any other sources of information, sorry about that...

A generic mobile SIGINT item would be much appreciated. Rather like the "Bunker (SIGINT Station)", but modeled as a mobile unit with suitable signatures. That could serve the role of the missing systems mentioned above if sources are hard to find.

Forgot to add: All the systems mentioned above, both the ones already included and the suggested additions, should have "Precise Emitter ID" set IMHO. It makes sense for less sophisticated radar warner type of equipment or simpler, fully automated equipment without access to raw data, meant for ease of use by personnel with limited training, to not have that flag. But any kind of dedicated SIGINT/ELINT equipment used by highly trained operators should have that flag set. Even if they have to look up PRF and modulation parameters in a binder or ask their more experienced colleagues they will figure out the precise emitter ID.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 2:59:02 AM   
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Everything on this page; some is already there in the database but several are missing. E.g., the Soviets have Kolchuga, Soft Ball, and Trash Can, but they are missing, e.g., PRP-1, SDR-2, and 85V6 Vega / Orion.

Don't have any other sources of information, sorry about that...

A generic mobile SIGINT item would be much appreciated. Rather like the "Bunker (SIGINT Station)", but modeled as a mobile unit with suitable signatures. That could serve the role of the missing systems mentioned above if sources are hard to find.


Look in the database under Soviets or Russia, land facility and filter for Vehicle. You should see Heart Ache, Kolchuga, Softball, Trash can. Under Russia there is another 6.

Thanks

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 3:09:00 AM   
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Mike, you are right, I see those. But I do not see PRP-1, SDR-02, or Vega/Orion, unless they are listed under some other name?

It is not that critical, and I think the generic SIGINT vehicle I ask for above would be enough. E.g., in a "Central front in 1984" type of scenario the four systems you mention are too new and the bunker is, well, a bunker. With the existence of such units being classified in many countries, I guess in many cases we could expect that some sort of ability would exist but we do not know the name or exact type, so a generic type of unit should serve our purpose.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 3:13:17 AM   
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Thanks

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 2:50:33 PM   
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Whoops, saw that now.

Anyway, I'd say that it is more a 4.0 than a 4.5, the report is pretty conclusive about severe maneuvering disadvantages and nothing from the JPO office suggests that the plane will claw back any performance. The F-35 was also in a lower weight configuration than an operational missile, e.g. no weapons, so this is near maximum performance before engine improvements


4.5 Is around the area of Hornet Maneuverability while 4.9 is around the area of F-16 maneuverability. 4.0 is right out considering that the test pilots still speak quite favorably of the F-35's performance (that and the report is based on the faults of a test airframe with a reduced flight envelope). For lack of better information, 4.5 seems fine for now but 4.0 is ludicrous considering all that has been said by the other test pilots.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 5:40:31 PM   
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quote:

Whoops, saw that now.

Anyway, I'd say that it is more a 4.0 than a 4.5, the report is pretty conclusive about severe maneuvering disadvantages and nothing from the JPO office suggests that the plane will claw back any performance. The F-35 was also in a lower weight configuration than an operational missile, e.g. no weapons, so this is near maximum performance before engine improvements


4.5 Is around the area of Hornet Maneuverability while 4.9 is around the area of F-16 maneuverability. 4.0 is right out considering that the test pilots still speak quite favorably of the F-35's performance (that and the report is based on the faults of a test airframe with a reduced flight envelope). For lack of better information, 4.5 seems fine for now but 4.0 is ludicrous considering all that has been said by the other test pilots.



How is the AF02 airframe limited in the flight enveloppe compared with other F35 ??

I'd also add, that the other test pilot comments were made during LM officials conferance, it's very unlikely that they would have crushed the airplane in front of all the public considering all the money injected in the program. Moreover, Lockhed Martin isnt'y known for its honesty for this programm so far.

Anyway, maybe we should continue this F35 discussion elsewhere ?


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 5:44:58 PM   
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Minor DB request:

I've noticed that F-35s have only AMRAAMs as part of their self defense load in air to ground configurations. They should also be able to carry Sidewinders for self defense.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 5:49:35 PM   
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Minor DB request:

I've noticed that F-35s have only AMRAAMs as part of their self defense load in air to ground configurations. They should also be able to carry Sidewinders for self defense.


This is semi-informed speculation, but I think the A/G configurations have the AAMs carried internally. I don't think you can use a Sidewinder internally, as it has to "see" the target to lock on. The AMRAAM, however, is plugged into the radar and get in-flight updates.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 6:03:52 PM   
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Diehl's Laser Guided Sidewinder (LaGS) is pictured on a Luftwaffe Tornado in this month's Combat Aircraft.

http://www.diehl.com/fileadmin/diehl-defence/user_upload/flyer/LaGS.pdf

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2015 9:58:35 PM   
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Minor error in #144 Commercial Tanker - General Purpose.  Crew size says 168, looks like a typo and is more likely 16 or 18

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/4/2015 12:18:28 PM   
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Found another minor error in crew size - I know, my life must be pretty boring to worry about this stuff .  Found what seems to be an authoritative reference, although a bit tangential.  https://orca-mwe.cf.ac.uk/64731/1/Analysis%20of%20crewing%20levels.pdf

Anyway:  DB #145 Commercial Tanker - Medium range,

DB has a crew size of 65 but I think it should be more like ----- Drum role please ---- 24

Now back to my trivia infested life

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/4/2015 9:37:23 PM   
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Minor DB request:

I've noticed that F-35s have only AMRAAMs as part of their self defense load in air to ground configurations. They should also be able to carry Sidewinders for self defense.



I don't know if Sidewinders are cleared for internal launch rails, at least on the initial bloc variants. If you look at the official documentation for stores, only the AMMRAAM and ASRAAM are planned for internal carrage.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/5/2015 6:49:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sidewinders cannot be carried internally on the F-35, and there are no plans to add this capability either. There are, however, plans to fit an AMRAAM twin-rail. This is present on the 2024 version of the USAF F-35A and USN F-35C, and up to six AIM-120s can be carried internally.

AIM-9X is used on many of the A/G loadouts using external stores, and also on some of the A/A loadouts using external stores.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SeaQueen

Minor DB request:

I've noticed that F-35s have only AMRAAMs as part of their self defense load in air to ground configurations. They should also be able to carry Sidewinders for self defense.



I don't know if Sidewinders are cleared for internal launch rails, at least on the initial bloc variants. If you look at the official documentation for stores, only the AMMRAAM and ASRAAM are planned for internal carrage.



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/5/2015 10:19:34 AM   
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Mike, you are right, I see those. But I do not see PRP-1, SDR-02, or Vega/Orion, unless they are listed under some other name?


Would be great if you could try to dig up some info on the PRP-1 and SDR-02 systems. Need info on in-service date, general capabilities, the number of emitter locators per system, etc.

Thanks!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/5/2015 10:38:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Any updates on this one? Has it become operational, or has it been cancelled?

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IDAS, what an awesome missile!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDAS_(missile)
http://defense-update.com/20120214_idas-submarine-launched-surface-to-air-missile-system.html#.VE1CYvTuLIQ
http://www.fsi.no/sfiles/7/14/8/file/idas_ger-nor-cooperation-in-practise.pdf
http://www.diehl.com/fileadmin/diehl-defence/user_upload/flyer/IDAS_07_2008.pdf


taken from a german forum:

Weight: 118kg
Diameter: 0,18m
Lenght: 2,45m

Four missiles fit in one 533-mm launching container. Once loaded into a torpedo tube, there seems to be no way to recover the IDAS container and relaod the tube with a torpedo. The only way to make room for a torpedo is to eject the container.

Pre-launch target aquisition is done by visual/radar/esm detection through the sub. During flight the missiles imaging IR seeker passes data through an fibre-optic cable to the submarine, enabling the operator to target threats with high accuracy and switch between them. IDAS is capable of attacking surface vessels, soft-armored targets (buildings and vehicles) and fixed radar/comms sites.



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/5/2015 7:47:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm almost sure IDAS is not yet in service. My personal notes reflect the German Wikipedia entry on IDAS, I saw it a few minutes ago and did read the same of a few years ago, in 2008 was forecasted IOC 2014, but I don't see any later reference.

Also, in this link we can see IDAS was in test and not in service in 2014:
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/year-2013-news/may-2013-navy-world-naval-forces-maritime-industry-technology-news/1035--turkish-company-roketsan-joins-idas-common-submarine-missile-project.html

Also nothing in the German Navy official site or elsewhere.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/5/2015 7:49:21 PM   
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/5/2015 8:14:53 PM   
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/5/2015 8:15:52 PM   
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One more aircraft from me I forgot about. The UK Army Air Corps, 658 Sqn operates the Eurocopter AS365 Dauphin II for special forces use. If it has any modifications then good luck finding them.


Could you dig up more on this one please?

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/5/2015 8:33:25 PM   
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Sure. Looks like they're the civilian variant of the Dauphin II but with the standard DAS and jamming pods added.

You'll need to remove the spaces in the links.

helihub com/2012/01/13/uk-special-forces-add-fifth-n3-dauphin/
eliteukforces info/air-support/658-Squadron/

It's unlikely they're used on active operations and are probably meant for counter-terrorism duty in the UK, covert transportation and possibly covert protection of VIPs abroad.

Also I noticed the Chinook HC5 has been added but it doesn't have the range of the MH-47G, which it is similar to.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/5/2015 11:21:05 PM   
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Minor nit-pick. According to Janes Fighting ships (1991-92)(page 676) the SWIFTSURE class SSN had acoustic elastomeric tiles added beginning in the 1987 refits. However the active sonar signature in the Database is 26/150/26db for all versions of the SWIFTSURE, both pre and post 1987. Possibly the acoustic signature should be reduced v. active sonar for the post-1987 refits?

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/5/2015 11:47:34 PM   
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Norwegian Navy will live fire test it this year:

http://www.janes.com/article/48379/norwegian-submarine-poised-for-idas-test

so we will know soon


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Any updates on this one? Has it become operational, or has it been cancelled?

Thanks!

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IDAS, what an awesome missile!





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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/6/2015 11:14:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info on the IDAS guys, very helpful. Should probably wait with adding it to any units then

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/6/2015 11:14:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Added Kenyan ships except the Jasiri class due to lack of info. Thanks!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/6/2015 11:24:24 AM   
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Sure. Looks like they're the civilian variant of the Dauphin II but with the standard DAS and jamming pods added.

You'll need to remove the spaces in the links.

helihub com/2012/01/13/uk-special-forces-add-fifth-n3-dauphin/
eliteukforces info/air-support/658-Squadron/

It's unlikely they're used on active operations and are probably meant for counter-terrorism duty in the UK, covert transportation and possibly covert protection of VIPs abroad.


Thanks! But if I understood correctly the helicopter might be outside Command's scope? Better put it in the 'Will add if requested by a scenario designer' category and add later, if needed?

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/6/2015 4:55:59 PM   
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Why this ship should make it into the game? I think the events in the Ukraine and the current situation in the Baltic couldn't be more suitable to give this ship a reason to exist in the game. Also, it might be interesting to modify the ship and give her the original armament. The only problem to add it in the near future might be its exact sensor suite, which remains unknown. I understand that the ship has been towed to the pier at which it will be fitted out so time will tell...

http://odwaszegofotokorespondenta.blogspot.com
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/netherlands/press-release/thales-supply-mission-suite-polish-patrol-vessel-orp-slazak
http://www.okretywojenne.mil.pl/index.php?go=181
http://forum.valka.cz/topic/view/89291

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