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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/22/2015 2:24:24 AM   
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Cannot be contained in a single picture. He massing at Kweisui. Luckily, I have the 26th Div formed there with 2 more brigades 40 miles to the east. Was able to beat him out of Sinyang with 12k of Chinese losses. And look at all the interior movements. Looks to be trying to hold up the rail lines for as long as possible.




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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/22/2015 2:26:25 AM   
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And now 2 cities along the coast. 4 Japanese BBs happened to be 80 miles away, so they diverted and caused about 500 casualties in Foochow. And I was really really hoping for a more quiet China this time.




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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/22/2015 2:32:03 AM   
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With the KB in the west, I wasn't expecting this degree of aggression in the East. Have to move fast without the KB and be ready for this. For whatever reason (and no Air HQ) I have torpedoes in Truk, so next turn should be interesting. 45 Zeroes and 2 Sentai of Nells will hopefully launch against something tomorrow.

Also, the 24th Flotilla is on Roi-Namur. So I'm moving the other large Zero Sentai and Netties to Truk and Roi-Namur to deal with this menace. I also have about 15 subs in the area which will converge. If I can get some damage in, damaged ships might not be able to get away.

And in a no guts no glory move, I'm sending out 3 SCTF to hopefully engage with one of these TFs around Truk.

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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/22/2015 2:40:13 AM   
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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/22/2015 2:48:13 AM   
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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/22/2015 4:58:22 PM   
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This guy is causing me fits...Foochow falls to the Chinese and Amoy may be next.

Foochow fell to the Chinese. Amoy may be next. I may have to divert some of the 14th Army to deal with this.

Ichang Holds - Barely

Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 64992 troops, 351 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1737

Defending force 15825 troops, 116 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 514

Allied adjusted assault: 1956

Japanese adjusted defense: 1132

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1553 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 162 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 19 (1 destroyed, 18 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
7274 casualties reported
Squads: 215 destroyed, 263 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 57 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 22 disabled
Guns lost 62 (7 destroyed, 55 disabled)

Chachow Holds - Barely

Ground combat at Chaochow (81,61)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 9104 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 385

Defending force 1254 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 43

Allied adjusted assault: 41

Japanese adjusted defense: 17

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), morale(-)

Japanese ground losses:
129 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
210 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Rabaul Holds - Barely

After an Allied SCTF bombardment and Carrier Bombardment

Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1261 troops, 16 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Defending force 3301 troops, 38 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 73

Allied adjusted assault: 21

Japanese adjusted defense: 13

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-), morale(-)

Japanese ground losses:
164 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
Lark Force
B Coy/NG Rifles
Rabaul Base Force

Defending units:
Sasebo 3rd SNLF
Yokosuka 4th SNLF

Didn't Need a Pearl Harbor

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Truk at 117,107

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
G3M2 Nell x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 2 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee, Torpedo hits 1
BB Maryland, Torpedo hits 3
BB West Virginia

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

And yet more

Night Naval bombardment of Kwajalein Island at 132,115 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 2 damaged

68 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 16
BB Arizona
BB Oklahoma
BB Nevada, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
379 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 15 (4 destroyed, 11 disabled)

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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/22/2015 5:14:24 PM   
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CenPac

He bombarded the wrong port. Roi-Namur already had the Air HQ transferred to it, so Netties have moved in and if I'm lucky will be able to strike at that force. One Allied BB partially damaged, the rest are fine, but I doubt any air cover. Question is, can that transfer occur before they are able to escape?

Solomons

At Truk, we'll be able to sortie again. I've moved out all shipping and another question is whether he'll risk the 288 defensive mines and CD guns there. We'll see. More zeroes and netties are moving to the region. Assuming that Rabual falls, I took Kavieng and that's going to have to become my main staging base for that region prior to anything else happening unfortunately that starts as a 0 airfield. . I have 3 SCTFs. I may have to risk pushing them down in the hopes of finding carriers and the SCTF.

This may force me to steam the KB to Truk. Unfortunately, there are NO bases other than Hong Kong big enough to replenish the KB. Crap!


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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/22/2015 5:48:06 PM   
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This may force me to steam the KB to Truk. Unfortunately, there are NO bases other than Hong Kong big enough to replenish the KB. Crap!

You shoud have some AKE ships from the start - send them

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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/22/2015 8:21:37 PM   
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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/22/2015 8:30:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lesson Learned #10 - Subs are nice, why don't you use them?

I just suck at sub combat. Most of my subs sit around in port because, 1) they are a nightmare to get setup correctly, 2) they seems to get nailed now in my game with Bill, 3) Not quite sure where to place them. So in this game, I'm not going to worry about the odd commerce AK or TK and rather focus on using them in an attack or denial role in an operational area. So 15 subs are converging on the Allied TFs in Cenpac/SoPac and more are coming.

Maryland BB shows up on Sunk List. Yay!

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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/23/2015 10:11:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Truk should be able to replenish air sorties by its own, AD can replenish torps for DD and cruisers - you only need AKE to replenish BB main guns.
This could require some micromanagement - keep AKE in TF to force ships replenish from the port what they can.

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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/23/2015 11:24:36 PM   
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Running these turns is like watching a scary movie where you can't help but peek through your fingers

Starts with Bang

Daily SCTF on Rabaul

Night Naval bombardment of Rabaul at 106,125

Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis
CA New Orleans
CL Detroit
DD Dale
DD Monaghan
DD Aylwin
DD Farragut

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Northwest of Marshalls

My SCTF finds the BB force

Day Time Surface Combat, near Eniwetok at 121,105, Range 17,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
DD Shinonome, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
DD Shirakumo, Shell hits 1
DD Hayate
DD Asanagi, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
DD Yunagi, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia, Shell hits 6
BB California, Shell hits 3
DD Case, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
DD Reid

Burma

Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
G4M1 Betty x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CL Dauntless, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Santhia

Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Catrine, Torpedo hits 1
xAP Santhia, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Khandalla, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Singapore

AA isn't the problem it was in my game with Bill

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 46

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 4 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 8 damaged
Vildebeest III: 2 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 13 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed on ground
Wirraway: 5 damaged
Buffalo I: 2 damaged
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed on ground
Swordfish I: 1 damaged

Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 28
Ki-43-Ia Oscar x 20
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 21

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged
Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed on ground
Swordfish I: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Buffalo I: 1 damaged
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15

Revenge for my lost CLs

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Taongi at 142,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 8 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Nevada
BB Arizona, Torpedo hits 2

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Truk at 119,104

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
G4M1 Betty x 12

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Shaw

Rabaul Again

Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 35 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 30

Defending force 3236 troops, 38 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 65

Assault collapses, survivors seek cover

Allied ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Chaochow Falls

Ground combat at Chaochow (81,61)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 14447 troops, 81 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 539

Defending force 1102 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 27

Allied adjusted assault: 198

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 39 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Chaochow !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
524 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Subic Bay falls to Paratroopers

Ground combat at Subic Bay (78,76)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 489 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Defending force 868 troops, 31 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 4

Japanese adjusted assault: 19

Allied adjusted defense: 9

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Subic Bay !!!



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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 8/24/2015 11:19:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Don´t panic in China. He is making a huge mistake by doing these attacks. There is no way he can hold the territory captured and he has already blown through a month worth of replacements. He is just burning supply for nothing.

Look for Chinese units moving and/or in clear hexes and release start hitting them from the air. Losses will be tremendous. Obvious targets are the troops exposed at Amoy and Foochow!

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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 9/6/2015 1:34:46 PM   
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Wow, don't post for a while and middle of page 2 searching for your AAR. I haven't updated in a while because Are has been on a business trip.

What a Mess in China!

I won't bore with a lot of combat reports. He's been taking huge losses but so have I, though mine overall have been less. Note all the attacks. Lucky that Japanese don't celebrate Christmas because this would be a depressing one.




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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 9/6/2015 1:36:01 PM   
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And more. Wenchow fell! That's a major pain in the side removed. But he's pretty much rolling up the coast. I have 2 BB SCTFs causing him some havoc, but they will need to move down to Singapore.




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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 9/6/2015 1:40:04 PM   
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3 Naval battles led by the Chokai on my side vs. the Houston, Marblehead and Boise on the other. 5 US DDs and the Marblehead are seriously damaged. The Chokai might not make it and is limping towards Mersing at 87 sys. The remaining parts of his SCTF are at Singkawang. I movedall my Netties either to Bangkok or Truk/Roi Namur to deal with the previous menace, which sunk the Tennessee and Maryland. 2 Netties are now back at Palembang with Torpedoes to deal with this SCTF, which also sunk a DD/AP unloading at Singkawang.




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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 9/6/2015 1:43:33 PM   
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Old saying said before rolling dice. 3 Divisions crossed into Singapore, 1 more coming and 2 more moving from Mersing. I tried to coordinate all of them, but failed. Great results though. Another div crossing tomorrow along with more tanks, the 25th HQ and Southern HQ. Shouldn't be long now.

Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 41823 troops, 368 guns, 201 vehicles, Assault Value = 1357

Defending force 37007 troops, 394 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 571

Japanese adjusted assault: 750

Allied adjusted defense: 393

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), leaders(+), preparation(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1688 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 112 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2614 casualties reported
Squads: 30 destroyed, 82 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 124 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 31 disabled
Guns lost 118 (32 destroyed, 86 disabled)
Vehicles lost 26 (7 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Assaulting units:
18th Division
33rd Division
5th Division
6th Tank Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion

Defending units:
2nd Loyal Battalion
27th Australian Brigade
1st Manchester Battalion
28th Gurkha Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
2nd Gordons Battalion
6th Indian Brigade
22nd Australian Brigade
SSVF Brigade
12th Indian Brigade
Singapore Fortress
Malaya Army
Singapore Base Force
Malayan Air Wing
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
111th RAF Adv Base Force
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
109th RN Base Force
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
272/273rd Bty 80th AT Gun Regiment
112th RAF Adv Base Force
III Indian Corps
223 Group RAF
109th RAF Adv Base Force
224 Group RAF
137/155th Field Regiment
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
2/215th Bty 80th AT Gun Regiment
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
5th Field Regiment

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RE: Lessons Maybe Learned - Vicberg(J) v. Sniper(A) - D... - 9/6/2015 8:30:21 PM   
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TBN, you can happily give away all of those coastal bases in south-east China except Wenchow: no supply sources + vulnerable to bombardments + garrison requirements + poor terrain = pyrric victory for chinese. You will easily gobble those bases later, just make sure he does not run naval bombing from one of those. In the meantime buy out Manchukuo tanks and roll the other brave chinese into dirt. China is a slow methodical affair

Did you stuff Palembang full of fighters? Early taking = asking for bombing campaign. I would not hesitate and pull all availagle allies 4Es to Java for this juicy target.

Edit: and maybe consider not throwing away your surface ships in risky engagements just yet. This is better done in 1943+ and you dont have many. For now Netties and CV air are kings of the seas and main deterrents

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