Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo

Hang in there Joc!

That damn Evil Empire will run out of steam soon and you can give him a red stagecoach and six black horses!

Best Regards,
-Terry

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
AMs operating in 1-ship TFs usually get in unseen.

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Ground combat at Anchorage (181,36)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26317 troops, 278 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 727

Defending force 8842 troops, 151 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 41

Japanese adjusted assault: 407

Allied adjusted defense: 175

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
364 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Allied ground losses:
521 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 11 (7 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
21st Division
16th Division
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
81st Field Artillery Battalion
3/250th Coastal Artillery Battalion
75th Coast AA Regiment
Eleventh USAAF
Elmendorf AAF Base Force
Alaska Defense Cmd
1/250th Coastal Artillery Battalion
31st Base Sqdn

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Ground combat at Bandoeng (50,100)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15360 troops, 231 guns, 179 vehicles, Assault Value = 449

Defending force 5736 troops, 103 guns, 81 vehicles, Assault Value = 158

Japanese adjusted assault: 183

Allied adjusted defense: 175

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
499 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
231 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
113th Infantry Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
56th Field Artillery Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
Mobiele Eenheid Battalion
4th KNIL Regiment
3rd KNIL AA Battalion
Andir ML Base Force
7th Avn Sup Afd

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Night Naval bombardment of Wenchow at 89,58

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
CL Kiso

Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Kirishima
BB Kirishima firing at 100th Chinese Corps
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for CL Kiso
CL Kiso firing at 88th Chinese Corps

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Ground combat at 83,45 (near Nanyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42092 troops, 439 guns, 201 vehicles, Assault Value = 1301

Defending force 32131 troops, 182 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 694

Japanese adjusted assault: 648

Allied adjusted defense: 1528

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2147 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 195 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 26 (10 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1379 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 118 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Assaulting units:
39th Division
13th Tank Regiment
13th Division
6th Division
12th Tank Regiment
9th Armored Car Co
1st Army
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
57th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps
22nd Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
41st AA Regiment

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Morning Air attack on Comilla , at 56,39

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 34

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on 75th Indian Brigade, at 58,39 , near Silchar

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 28
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 13 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Looking at that map of Canada made me realize that he could put paras into Coal Harbour or Annette Island and drop them on the rail line behind Prince Rupert. Make sure you have a unit at Terrace and Prince George or wherever he could reach.

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Morning Air attack on 18th/B Division, at 58,38 , near Dacca

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 10
Blenheim IV x 33

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
340 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

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Ground combat at Bandoeng (50,100)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14855 troops, 231 guns, 179 vehicles, Assault Value = 396

Defending force 5348 troops, 96 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 108

Japanese adjusted assault: 286

Allied adjusted defense: 139

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bandoeng !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
208 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6047 casualties reported
Squads: 68 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 356 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 129 (129 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 105 (105 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 5

Assaulting units:
146th Infantry Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
56th Field Artillery Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
Mobiele Eenheid Battalion
4th KNIL Regiment
Andir ML Base Force
3rd KNIL AA Battalion
7th Avn Sup Afd

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Ground combat at 83,45 (near Nanyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40587 troops, 439 guns, 171 vehicles, Assault Value = 1171

Defending force 31290 troops, 179 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 580

Japanese adjusted assault: 532

Allied adjusted defense: 1450

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2710 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 299 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Vehicles lost 25 (1 destroyed, 24 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
765 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 79 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled)

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Ground combat at 74,52 (near Tuyun)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 29427 troops, 275 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 1053

Defending force 39404 troops, 112 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1209

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
104th Division
3rd Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
51st Division
1st Tank Regiment
6th Tank Regiment
21st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
28th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
9th Group Army

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Ground combat at 58,38 (near Dacca)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 14406 troops, 251 guns, 360 vehicles, Assault Value = 632

Defending force 2973 troops, 52 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 107

Allied adjusted assault: 162

Japanese adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 40 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
2031 casualties reported
Squads: 113 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 16 (10 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (7 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
18th British Division
7th Armoured Brigade

Defending units:
18th/B Division
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Locations of Japanese ID
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NORPAC/WC
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-16th ID at Anchorage
-48th ID at Bella Bella
-48th/B at Annette Island
-21st ID at Anchorage

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CENTPAC
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-4th ID at PH (1 week old SIGINT)

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DEI
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-5th moving to Chittagong. Prepping for Calcutta.
-38th on Java. (2 weeks old)
-19th ID on Mindanao. Prepping for Manila
-18/C (Probably moving to Chittagong with the 5th)

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Burma
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-Imperial Guards (probably moved to Paoshan)
-18th ID (2/3rd at Chittagong)

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Unknown/on the move
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-33rd. On ships from PH to Canton (3 weeks old SIGINT).

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ORIGINAL: Uncivil Engineer

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Locations of Japanese ID
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NORPAC/WC
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-16th ID at Anchorage
-48th ID at Bella Bella
-48th/B at Annette Island
-21st ID at Anchorage

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CENTPAC
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-4th ID at PH (1 week old SIGINT)

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DEI
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-5th moving to Chittagong. Prepping for Calcutta.
-38th on Java. (2 weeks old)
-19th ID on Mindanao. Prepping for Manila
-18/C (Probably moving to Chittagong with the 5th)

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Burma
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-Imperial Guards (probably moved to Paoshan)
-18th ID (2/3rd at Chittagong)

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Unknown/on the move
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-33rd. On ships from PH to Canton (3 weeks old SIGINT).

Don't overlook 3 divisions that start in regiment-sized pieces - 2nd, 55th, and 56th. IIRC you had seen parts of the 2nd (24th Regt) on Java. The other 2 are usually part of the Malaya invasion, so could be anywhere by now.

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11/38th Division is loaded on xAK Koyu Maru moving to Chittagong.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

March 31st 1942

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

March 31st 1942

Amphib bonus pau? (That's Hawaiian. )

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Did you remember to send 2 to 4 American DB units to India?? Them plus the Brit TBs could be a nice strike package if you get the chance.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Did you remember to send 2 to 4 American DB units to India?? Them plus the Brit TBs could be a nice strike package if you get the chance.

I decided not to! When he landed early in NORPAC I decided to keep them around. I might send some off later though. But right now I think they might become handy in Canada!

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Did you remember to send 2 to 4 American DB units to India?? Them plus the Brit TBs could be a nice strike package if you get the chance.

I decided not to! When he landed early in NORPAC I decided to keep them around. I might send some off later though. But right now I think they might become handy in Canada!

For moose hunting? That's not fair!

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Did you remember to send 2 to 4 American DB units to India?? Them plus the Brit TBs could be a nice strike package if you get the chance.

I decided not to! When he landed early in NORPAC I decided to keep them around. I might send some off later though. But right now I think they might become handy in Canada!

For moose hunting? That's not fair!

Nor legal - I'd have to arrest him for poaching, moose hunting is my domain!

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ORIGINAL: tiemanj

Just read this... I noticed a few days back he had the KB at Coal Harbor (in the hex). CVs in base hexes can only launch 1/2 its CAP. The screen shot suggests less than 100 fighters in the TF. Do you have any anti shipping assets in CONUS / Canada? Get everything together and if he parks them their again, send the house. CVWs from land bases, those moose hunting DBs you've held back from India, cats with fish, those USMC groups that are often training at Edwards (or whatever the WWII name of that base is). You can sweep and use 4Es to bomb the base too, which will just suck up more CAP. (Keep the sweeps low, and they should beat the bombers to the target - same with the 4Es... better if they arrive first).
The KB is the key to Japanese defense. Once it is gone, the entire Pacific basin is open and you can go anywhere you want.

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

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ORIGINAL: tiemanj

Just read this... I noticed a few days back he had the KB at Coal Harbor (in the hex). CVs in base hexes can only launch 1/2 its CAP. The screen shot suggests less than 100 fighters in the TF. Do you have any anti shipping assets in CONUS / Canada? Get everything together and if he parks them their again, send the house. CVWs from land bases, those moose hunting DBs you've held back from India, cats with fish, those USMC groups that are often training at Edwards (or whatever the WWII name of that base is). You can sweep and use 4Es to bomb the base too, which will just suck up more CAP. (Keep the sweeps low, and they should beat the bombers to the target - same with the 4Es... better if they arrive first).
The KB is the key to Japanese defense. Once it is gone, the entire Pacific basin is open and you can go anywhere you want.

The land base likely has it's own fighters for CAP.
The American land based fighters and bombers have very inexperienced pilots.
Anti-shipping aircraft are in very short supply in CONUS in this time period.

If the Americans were to move their carrier based fighters and bombers ashore and supplement them with every LBA asset available, they could possibly bring enough to the party to get through and deliver hits.
Would be very, very bloody at a time when American aircraft pools are in horrid shape,
BUT it could be a game changer worth the risk and cost.

I can't see it working without the carrier based air involved, though.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

So far the vaunted campaign against North America is pretty much a bust, huh?

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ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo
Way to go Joc!

You are hanging in tough.

Soon you will be burning those Japanese Suns and raising American and Canadian flags.

Best Regards,
-Terry

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ORIGINAL: tiemanj
I agree it would be a blood bath, but if successful, it is a game changer. If a failure, you lose what? Some crap pilots and worse airframes. You aren't going on the offensive any time soon - these are not the pilots or airframes you are going to win the war with, and your primary defense (AA) is not risked at all. From a VP perspective, it isn't bad either - trading airframes at 1:2, 1:3, or even 1:3.999 right now is a "win". Remember, the plan would include P38 sweeps, B17 raids on the airstrip and LRCAP out of Vancouver / Victoria to absorb CAP (and / or wreck the airfield). Use 2Es, P39s, A24s, PBYs, Bolos, King Fishers, Bolingbroks, Sharks, Stranraers, and every navy bomber you can scrounge to hit the ships (I'd send the Stearman's to toss hand grenades if I could). Transfer out any pilots hiding on Lex, Sara, or big E (AVG, Oz, PI, wherever) to get them into any squadrons you can scrounge up in CONUS. I agree that the best (and perhaps only) chance for a meaningful success is to get the navy (and their pilots) involved in this, so make every effort to get as many of them involved as you can (and you don't even need to risk the decks!)

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ORIGINAL: BillBrown

Is it possible to send some TBs at 1000 feet? I have found that most of them will get through the CAP.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: tiemanj
I agree it would be a blood bath, but if successful, it is a game changer. If a failure, you lose what? Some crap pilots and worse airframes. You aren't going on the offensive any time soon - these are not the pilots or airframes you are going to win the war with, and your primary defense (AA) is not risked at all. From a VP perspective, it isn't bad either - trading airframes at 1:2, 1:3, or even 1:3.999 right now is a "win". Remember, the plan would include P38 sweeps, B17 raids on the airstrip and LRCAP out of Vancouver / Victoria to absorb CAP (and / or wreck the airfield). Use 2Es, P39s, A24s, PBYs, Bolos, King Fishers, Bolingbroks, Sharks, Stranraers, and every navy bomber you can scrounge to hit the ships (I'd send the Stearman's to toss hand grenades if I could). Transfer out any pilots hiding on Lex, Sara, or big E (AVG, Oz, PI, wherever) to get them into any squadrons you can scrounge up in CONUS. I agree that the best (and perhaps only) chance for a meaningful success is to get the navy (and their pilots) involved in this, so make every effort to get as many of them involved as you can (and you don't even need to risk the decks!)

Ah, playing with PDU OFF things are a little bit different. To sum it up I don´t have any planes to try an attack with.

My strike AC on the WC is as follows:
- 0 TBs (Have 12 in the pool but I need them to refill Saras TB squadron)
- 5 Vindicators
- 22 SDB 1s
- 18 SDB 3s

Thats it. I have a USMC squadron with 0 planes that can upgrade to the SDB-3 but I only have 36 in the pool and I want to get rid of Hornets Helldivers.

Trying to the the KB would just be a wet dream at this stage. Jeff has half the KB CAP + 80 LBA bases Zeroes. The chances of anything getting through (let alone hit anything) is so slim its not worth the risk. While losing the strike planes doesn´t bother me much losing fighters to escort the strike could cripple me.

What I will do though is use my 4Es. They are ready but every day they can train they become more dangerous. Just waiting for the right opportunity. Zeroes and Oscars do horribly against B17Es. They will be my offensive weapon. And against Oscars/Zeroes I´m not even sure I need to escort them.

I can´t "win" anything at this stage. What I need to do is make his strategic bombing campaign so painful he has to stop it. If I can do that (and avoid AV) the entire Japanese PH/NORPAC/Canada venture would be a failure and Japan would be in a horrible position to defend.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: BillBrown

Is it possible to send some TBs at 1000 feet? I have found that most of them will get through the CAP.

I try to avoid that. Someone (cant remember who, aztez? crsutton?) tested this extensively and found that going in at 1000 feet is "uninterecepteble". IE, the engine goes bonkers and CAP cannot react to the strike properly. So I never set it below 4000.