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27-28 Aug 42 - 10/4/2015 6:52:38 PM   
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27-28 Aug 42

Highlights - Mini KB hits a small convoy east of Ndeni - but CAP does well; CAP over Chittagong holds its own against heavy sweeps.

Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 1 (Tanikaze - mines)
PB: 1

Allied ships sunk:
PT: 3
SC: 1
YMS: 1
xAP: 1 (small, fast - scuttled)
xAKL: 1

Air loss:
Jpn: 67
Allied: 51

Subwar:
Jpn: 2 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 4 Attacks, 1 ship hit (PB sunk)

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Warazup (Burma)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: NSTR

West Coast/Admin. Tenth Airforce’s P-38E squadron finally departs East Coast for Cape Town and then on to India after being held for months to support operations in the Aleutians.

In NOPAC, Attu amph TF completes loading and will move to staging area at Amchitka, along with BB TF (3BB, 6DD), ASW and minesweepers. Still quiet.

CENPAC, NSTR.

In SOPAC, the Mini-KB trolls SE of Ndeni for targets, and finds an xAKL escorted by a YMS heading south at best speed from Ndeni off Vanikoro and sinks both. Another xAKL escorted by an AM are also attacked just north of Luganville, and this time, they are protected by P-39 CAP - which shoots down 3 Zeros and 14 Vals in exchange for 8 P-39s - and no ships are hit! Nice. IJN DD TF (3DD) ventures into Ndeni, where Tanikaze hits a mine and later is reported sunk, but not before sinking 3 of 6 PTs there - the only 3 that engaged! No other shipping was present and the DDs did not bombard. I expect the IJN CVs to retire after the P-39s did well off Luganville, and shipping will return to plying the waters to and from Noumea and Luganville. CV Enterprise TF is just off Pago, and will head to Suva to refuel, then support reinforcements bound for Vaitupu.

In SWPAC, it remains quiet.

In WAUS, NSTR.

In China, the two Chinese Corps attacked SE of Nanning again and were held so that will stop any further offensive actions for a while. Of more concern in the IJA continue to push toward Chunking from over the mountains NE of the city. They are now within 160 miles and one hex away from clear terrain. Not good!

In India/Burma, major fighter sweeps over Chittagong are met by a robust CAP and when the dust settles, losses are an acceptable one to one loss ratio: 22 Oscar IIa, 14 Tojo in exchange for 22 P-40E, 14 Hurris. While I don’t mind the loss ratio, especially with Tojos involved, I can’t afford the airframes yet. On the positive side, despite losing 51 a/c during the turn across the Pacific Theater, only 5 pilots were killed. I have to assume that most Jpn pilots shot down over Allied bases did not survive. On the negative side of things, was surprised when the IJA defeated the Allied force at Warazup at 1-1 odds, and took the base. The defending force included the US 87th Mtn Reg - the first time US troops engaged in the CBI. This defeat will force me to send at least a portion of the US 27th ID to the Ledo area.

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RE: 27-28 Aug 42 - 10/5/2015 5:54:53 PM   
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While I don’t mind the loss ratio, especially with Tojos involved, I can’t afford the airframes yet.


Not disputing this point ... but what are these losses like for the Japanese? They should be hurting, too, right?

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RE: 27-28 Aug 42 - 10/5/2015 10:00:25 PM   
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While I don’t mind the loss ratio, especially with Tojos involved, I can’t afford the airframes yet.


Not disputing this point ... but what are these losses like for the Japanese? They should be hurting, too, right?



Maybe I'm wrong, but since Japan can determine production based on its requirements, I don't think he's hurting for plane losses - in numbers of planes anyway. In pilots - yes.

There may be some lag time, but if he's experiencing higher losses than anticipated, he can ramp up production to compensate. Something us Allied players can only dream of...until we get the F6F anyway...

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29-30 Aug 42 - 10/7/2015 3:40:40 PM   
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29-30 Aug 42

Highlights - KB sighted by subs departing Japan for Aleutian waters forcing the postponement of the Attu invasion again; IJN activity increases in the IO.

Jpn ships sunk: None

Allied ships sunk:
AM: 1
xAKL: 1

Air loss:
Jpn: 38
Allied: 21

Subwar:
Jpn: 2 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 4 Attacks, 0 ships hit (3CVs missed!!)

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: Three subs sight the KB coming out of Japan, heading toward Aleutian waters.

West Coast/Admin. Fast convoy departs LA bound for Auckland.

In NOPAC, a frustrating turn as the sub picket line just off the south coast of Hokkaido duly picks up the KB departing port, and heading ENE along the coast. Subs Gato, Haddock and Swordfish each manage to launch a spread at a CV and MISS!! On the bright side, at least I know the KB is on the move, and I didn’t have to be doubly frustrated by seeing a hit not explode. Should the KB continue towards the Aleutians, 10 more subs may have a chance at redemption. Attu invasion TFs reach the staging area at Amchitka as planned, but the sub sightings will force another postponement - all TFs (BB, Amph, ASW, and Minesweeping) will all head SE towards the CV TF and mark time - and keep my fingers crossed that the subs do a bit better in hitting targets.

CENPAC, 3rd Marine Div arrives from San Francisco without incident; they are currently planning for a landing at Tabiteuea in early ‘43. The convoy will depart for SF with some troops heading out of Pearl for assignment elsewhere, including the 22nd MAG, whose destination is India.

In SOPAC, its quiet. The IJN CV TF has disappeared, and my guess is that it has headed back towards Truk. In any case, resupply convoy arrives at Noumea without incident and inter-island shipping is resumed. Enterprise TF is just off Suva, and in need of fuel. Ndeni AF now level 2 and USMC SBDs arrive.

In SWPAC, IJN LBA finally awakens out of Moresby starting with a sweep over Portland Roads, followed by a Nell strike which sinks the AM and xAKL unloading there. On the positive side, P-400s on CAP do well, 11 A3 Zeros and 9 A2 Zeros are destroyed in exchange for 8 P-400s. This IJN LBA raid opens the door for the first P-38F sweep on Moresby - I figure the enemy pilots may be fatigued from their sweep/escort. Meanwhile, P-39s sweep over Horn Island and find no targets. Lastly, a squadron of B-26s sneak in under Moresby CAP and put a 500lb bomb on an xAP at the cost of two planes lost.

In WAUS, the IJA force I thought was heading south towards Tenant Creek has now sent units to its flanks - which looks more like a defensive posture. Will send Allied LBA to raid both the main ground force as well as Daly Waters (supply hub?) to see what we can stir up. On the Exmouth front, its quiet, and with the IJN activity in the Indian Ocean, those ships are NOT ready to strike against Exmouth or Carnarvon. So, its probably time to break up the CV TF laying well off the coast in the coming days/weeks.

In China, overall supply reaches 55k for the first time in over a month - have no idea why it’s going up right now however - and its still not being effectively distributed to bases or units.

In India/Burma, the IJN returns with a bombardment TF (BB, 3CA, 2CL, 5DD) hitting the British 18th Div at Akyab, while air search picks up another potential BB TF heading along the coast. British MGBs have moved to protect Chittagong, but both Cox’s Bazaar and troops at Akyab are exposed. Dacca is now operational as a level 4 AF, and British torpedo bombers are prepared to launch a night attack. Jpn LBA doesn’t hit Chittagong, giving Allied air a chance to repair, but does it Cox’s Bazaar without effect.






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RE: 29-30 Aug 42 - 10/7/2015 7:30:32 PM   
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The captain of Akagi (and your opponent LST) must be running out of clean underwear ....

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Aug 42 Summary - 10/14/2015 6:10:33 PM   
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Aug 42 Summary

Like Jul, August was a mixed month. On the positive side, Vaitapu occupied in the Ellice Islands, Ndeni AF is operational and growing, Exmouth reinforced and expanding (albeit slowly), Allied air continues to manage better than a 1-1 loss ratio against the latest enemy planes, and most importantly the fleet, especially the CV force, remains largely intact. On the negative side, I was caught flat footed when the IJN showed up in the Aleutians in force and savaged the US Fleet there, postponing the invasion of Attu yet again. Overall, I’m still satisfied with the results. I think the initiative has truly shifted to the Allied Cause. IJN forays are more raids, not tied to sustained offensive operations, but to delay Allied buildups. Those raiding forays are sill powerful, and the best defense is still withdrawal where possible, but once the raiding force retires, Allied offensive buildup was able to continue. As we move into September, buildup remains the focus for most theaters for the next two months as most of the Allied fleet will undergo refit in the next 60 days. Attu is still a target - if I can manage to get in without the KB coming to visit. The focus in the next 30 plus days will rely on airpower - begin starting to challenge in the air with a combination of sweeps and heavy bombers, primarily around Australia and Burma. I expect L_S_T to continue with an “active defense” - sortie the fleet to disrupt Allied thrusts. That means naval bombardments, CV raids and offensive fighter sweeps. Naval loss ratio for the month wasn’t as bad as I once feared despite the debacle known as the Aleutian Campaign; IJN reported losses for the month were a CA, 4CL, 4DD and 8SS as compared to the Allies losing a CA, 2CL, CLAA, 3DD and 3 PTs. Air losses were decidedly in the Allies favor, 449 for Jpn to 353 Allied, and with new fighters such as the P-40K and P-38F becoming operational next month, I hope to expand this gap in the coming months.

Screenshot shows disposition - didn’t have time to post specifics by Theater. Will try and do that each quarter instead of monthly.



INTEL: I’m convinced the IJN is done with major amphibious operations. I was wrong about Carnarvon, and realized that when the ships used at Port Hedland were then committed in the Indian Ocean. Figure L_S_T will attempt to preserve his current perimeter - which I’m betting includes bases of Akyab, Port Hedland, Moresby, Tulagi, Tarawa-Makin area, and apparently Attu. The greatest threat remains CV raids and BB bombardments - both of which get riskier as Allied airpower and subs become more numerous.

SUBWAR: Although disappointed at missed opportunities in August - at least five subs launched torps at CVs without success, subs did hit a BB and CA - and the “threat” of sub attack most likely has, and will, influence IJN operations. Still not having much success against the merchant marine however. On the positive side, Allied ASW platforms, both sea and air, are becoming more available and crews becoming more proficient - and IJN sub losses are on the rise.

West Coast/USA/Rear Areas: Focus is on refitting the fleet over the next two months. This will be done as quickly as possible - not staging ships into refit as I did during the 6/42 refit. Every ship that can reach a refit yard as soon as possible will be taken out of service, so ships will start heading to ports in Sep for their 10/42 refit. Most ships due refit in 9/42 are already in port to be taken out of service immediately. Pilot pools are very healthy with the exception of US Army bomber pilots, and that will be short for a few more months. Planes are still in short supply, but have been able to expand a few Marine fighter squadrons to 36 planes. Goal in Sep will be to retire the Marines’ Buffalo and the Army’s P-36 from frontline squadrons.

NOPAC. L_S_T has done an excellent job of keeping me off balance in the Aleutians. I figured that after the BB drubbing last month, the worst was over. What I certainly didn’t expect was the KB in Aleutian waters! All things considered, I got off lightly losing a few cruisers and DDs - not hitting Dutch Harbor saved the transports and the BBs in port there. Still, the invasion of Attu is again postponed, only to be restarted, then delayed yet again at the end of August when the KB left port headed toward the Aleutians. Will look to land on Attu again in Sep, but time is against me now with winter weather approaching. That said, its not worth risking APs and additional BBs to push this landing if the KB is about.

CENPAC. With Attu delayed, so is Baker Island. Not essential, but a tad frustrating. I can wait.

SOPAC. So far, so good in SOPAC. Actually on track, building up the base at Ndeni. That’s as far as the advance will go until the fleet returns from refit. Ellice Islands will be mopped up as well. All to set conditions for further offensive operations come 11/42. Bombing operations against Tulagi should commence in September as heavies become available - contingent to IJA offensive action against Tennant Creek in Australia.

SWPAC. September will kick off with P-38Fs sweeping Moresby as the first step in gaining air superiority in theater. This “should” start an Allied buildup to land at Horn Island, slated for Oct. This operation is geared to be executed only supported by LBA. Horn Island will be the first step in the long road to throw the Japanese out of Australia, as well as opening up southern New Guinea for future operations.

WAUS. Surprisingly, its been very quiet on the Carnavon-Exmouth front. No IJN activity other than subs - so my four CVs and a BC surface TF has been loitering for about a month without a target. On the positive side, Exmouth is expanding, and efforts will shift from port to AF construction shortly. On the negative side, the CVs could have been better used elsewhere. The naval TF(s) will disperse for refit shortly in any case. Focus there will remain developing Exmouth into a base to threaten Port Hedland. WAUS’s other front, Tennant Creek will focus on halting or destroying any IJA attempt to seize the base. I’m confident I have the forces to accomplish this task. Once the ground threat is removed, the air (especially the heavy bombers) will shift to supporting SWPAC and SOPAC for the remainder of ’42.

Burma/India. As expected, Akyab has stalemated. Not as expected, the IJN showed up in force in August to provide bombardment capability from Chittagong to Akyab. Fine - ships in the Indian Ocean are not in SWPAC or SOPAC. I’m good with that. Subs and eventually airpower will take care of the naval threat in the IO as time progresses. What surprised me is that Allied airpower has actually held its own against a reinforced IJA air - equipped with the Tojo no less. With September, the P-40K becomes available, as well as an influx of air reinforcements shipping to India from the US. Goal in September is to begin the air offensive and gain air superiority across the India-Burma frontier, setting conditions for ground offensive. The western gateway into China, Paoshan, still holds, although the IJA still threatens the position.

China. Supply, or lack there of, continues to be the #1 concern in the China Theater. The IJA drive toward Chungking from the NE is slow, but unrelenting. The SE front and southern fronts seemed to have stabilized, but lack of supply is still a major concern, although the IJA thrust from the SW was actually blunted. Will continue to attempt to hold the current perimeter as long as possible.


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RE: Aug 42 Summary - 10/14/2015 7:17:49 PM   
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Why the rush to retake Attu? If you have to wait until the spring, what is the harm in that? In contrast, Baker and the Ellice islands are much more important strategically IMHO.

Do you have a reasonable chance to reconquer Burma soon enough in order to relieve China, specifically the threat to Chungking?

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RE: Aug 42 Summary - 10/14/2015 10:53:55 PM   
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Why the rush to retake Attu? If you have to wait until the spring, what is the harm in that? In contrast, Baker and the Ellice islands are much more important strategically IMHO.

Do you have a reasonable chance to reconquer Burma soon enough in order to relieve China, specifically the threat to Chungking?



You're right - there is no rush to take Attu - its a dead end. Just didn't expect 4 CVs to come up to the Aleutians. Re-thinking whether this can still be pulled off in '42.

Burma is a long range effort - will be 6-12 months before I can threaten the IJA pushing into Paoshan and offer some supply relief into China.

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RE: Aug 42 Summary - 10/14/2015 11:24:24 PM   
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Regarding refits, I fully agree on quick instead of stagged. Good news is that most of the refits in September and October are minor; taking in average 21 days. You will have your ships carrying improved radars and Bofors in no time
The exceptions are:
- 3 AMCs that convert to LCI in September...they will need relatively big shipyards (15 if I remember correctly), and 120 days. You should start them ASAP as they are your fist real APAs, ideally they should be in port by the time the refit is available.
- 2 standard type BBs in October. I don't remember which ones and I am not in my desk. What I did was to send them to the West coast, this to avoid congestion at PH

In September there are also lots of xAKs and auxiliar vessels getting better AA and in some cases deck guns. In my game I have tried my best to upgrade them, but I haven't stop any convoy or delay anything as value of the upgrade is marginal


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RE: Aug 42 Summary - 10/15/2015 2:31:01 AM   
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Regarding refits, I fully agree on quick instead of stagged. Good news is that most of the refits in September and October are minor; taking in average 21 days. You will have your ships carrying improved radars and Bofors in no time
The exceptions are:
- 3 AMCs that convert to LCI in September...they will need relatively big shipyards (15 if I remember correctly), and 120 days. You should start them ASAP as they are your fist real APAs, ideally they should be in port by the time the refit is available.
- 2 standard type BBs in October. I don't remember which ones and I am not in my desk. What I did was to send them to the West coast, this to avoid congestion at PH

In September there are also lots of xAKs and auxiliar vessels getting better AA and in some cases deck guns. In my game I have tried my best to upgrade them, but I haven't stop any convoy or delay anything as value of the upgrade is marginal



I'm tracking with ya Jorge. Lex will be in the yards a bit longer since I didn't do her 6/42 refit, but the Oct refit is a BIG deal for the added AA - BOFORs rock!

Have one of the AMCs converting to LCIs now, and the other two will hit the yards once their convoys dock. As for the BBs, one is the Pennsy, and she's repairing at Bremerton and will be in the yards for 4 months with the refit - its a long one. That's OK, I can't get the old BBs sunk if they are in refit, right?

I've been pushing transports and auxillaries into refit as they turn around convoys since 6/42 - I now have an abundance of Merchies, except of course tankers.

Jorge - you on break with your game, its been a while since you've posted?

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RE: Aug 42 Summary - 10/15/2015 3:02:16 AM   
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Why the rush to retake Attu? If you have to wait until the spring, what is the harm in that? In contrast, Baker and the Ellice islands are much more important strategically IMHO.

Do you have a reasonable chance to reconquer Burma soon enough in order to relieve China, specifically the threat to Chungking?



You're right - there is no rush to take Attu - its a dead end. Just didn't expect 4 CVs to come up to the Aleutians. Re-thinking whether this can still be pulled off in '42.

Burma is a long range effort - will be 6-12 months before I can threaten the IJA pushing into Paoshan and offer some supply relief into China.

I disagree with not taking Attu soon (before Nov. 1 winter penalties kick in). There are a couple of reasons:

- If you wait until spring, he has time to build serious forts. Combined with terrain, that would require a long campaign of bombing or bombardment which he can raid with KB.

- Attu gives Japan a long Nav Search/Recon reach into NorPac which prevents the Allies preparing a significant surprise invasion. That frees up his forces to go elsewhere or get upgrades when he feels secure.

- Conversely, taking Attu now moves his search back about three days travel for an amphib TF. The base can be built up to support Allied efforts and threaten the Kuriles, to which he will have to allocate forces for defence. This keeps a Kuriles invasion option on the Allied table, in case the other theatres are too difficult or slow to progress in.

The last reason was the biggest one in my books - if you make it clear that the Kuriles option is out, it helps Japan a lot.

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RE: Aug 42 Summary - 10/16/2015 12:53:00 AM   
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Why the rush to retake Attu? If you have to wait until the spring, what is the harm in that? In contrast, Baker and the Ellice islands are much more important strategically IMHO.

Do you have a reasonable chance to reconquer Burma soon enough in order to relieve China, specifically the threat to Chungking?



You're right - there is no rush to take Attu - its a dead end. Just didn't expect 4 CVs to come up to the Aleutians. Re-thinking whether this can still be pulled off in '42.

Burma is a long range effort - will be 6-12 months before I can threaten the IJA pushing into Paoshan and offer some supply relief into China.

I disagree with not taking Attu soon (before Nov. 1 winter penalties kick in). There are a couple of reasons:

- If you wait until spring, he has time to build serious forts. Combined with terrain, that would require a long campaign of bombing or bombardment which he can raid with KB.

- Attu gives Japan a long Nav Search/Recon reach into NorPac which prevents the Allies preparing a significant surprise invasion. That frees up his forces to go elsewhere or get upgrades when he feels secure.

- Conversely, taking Attu now moves his search back about three days travel for an amphib TF. The base can be built up to support Allied efforts and threaten the Kuriles, to which he will have to allocate forces for defence. This keeps a Kuriles invasion option on the Allied table, in case the other theatres are too difficult or slow to progress in.

The last reason was the biggest one in my books - if you make it clear that the Kuriles option is out, it helps Japan a lot.



BB - I really do agree with all you said. I just have one slight problem....L_S_T has a vote in this and he's one-upped me by bringing four CVs into the Aleutians. That has caught me flat-footed and has thrown my "backwater" Aleutian campaign into the limelight. Not in a good way. I'll keep the forces avail to grab Attu for a while - they're not needed anywhere else, but I'm not ready to commit the bulk of the Navy to support.

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Highlights - KB 2 sinks a convoy reinforcing Vaitupu; P-38Fs debut over Port Moresby with excellent results.

Jpn ships sunk: None

Allied ships sunk:
DE: 1
DMS: 1
APD: 2
AVP: 1
AP: 1

Air loss:
Jpn: 65
Allied: 13

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 3 Attacks, 0 ships hit

Jpn Amph Inv:
Mataram (DEI)

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Bhamo (Burma)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: Apparently KB 2 is cruising north of Vaitupu.

West Coast/Admin. Slow convoy departs LA bound for Auckland. Numerous refits begin with the 1st of the month as ships were pre-positioned in ports.

In NOPAC, it continues to be frustrating - KB has vanished again, and I’m not sure if it went back to port or continued toward the Aleutians. In any case, the Attu Invasion TFs retired from Amchitka toward southern Aleutian waters and linked up with the CV TF. They’ll continue to loiter, hopefully out of harm’s way, for a bit.

CENPAC, NSTR.

In SOPAC, KB2 turns off its cloaking device to launch strikes at a small convoy carrying two engineer units to Vaitupu. Engineers are landed with minimal loss, but the ships decided to unload rather than run for safer waters and were all sunk - including two APs!! Not good. On the usual, “it could have been worse” line of reasoning, I was going to have CV Enterprise TF provide ASW support, but fortunately for me, they needed fuel and I sent them to Suva - they’ll now clear the area. Big question of course is where KB2 is headed next?

In SWPAC, the single P-38F squadron debuts with a sweep over Moresby at 20k and are met by a robust CAP of Zeros - but which supported action over Portland Roads, so I figured they were a bit fatigued. And the results bore that out. In exchange for 3 P-38s, 31 Zeros were lost. Nice….very nice. With these results, and shipping still reported off Moresby, a max effort will launch next turn - P-38s again sweeping, and this time max B-17 effort to hit the AF, and B-25/26s hitting shipping.

In WAUS, 36xB-17s hit Daly Waters with good effect, but no a/c were at the base, and no CAP overhead. Still, it should hurt Jpn supply efforts for the ground units to the south. US fighters sweep the IJA forces south of Daly Waters and are met by a LRCAP. F4Fs and P-40s do well, losing 4 P-40s in exchange for 3 Tojos, 8 Nicks and 6 OscarIIs - with the Nicks deployed, my bet is L_S_T was expecting bombers, not a fighter sweep. Quiet at Exmouth/Carnarvon area.

In China, NSTR.

In India/Burma, BB TF (2BB, 2CL, 4DD) bombard Cox’s Bazaar with minimal effect, while LBA hits British units at Akyab without any effect. Allied fighters remain covering bases and rebuilding strength.

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RE: 31 Aug - 1 Sep 42 - 10/19/2015 6:48:01 AM   
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Hi Idaho - I've subscribed although I haven't read through the AAR yet. Just wanted to say hi and let you know I'm along for the ride.

Given that I'm reading in order to learn more about the Allies to help me in my game (which is also fall 42, and a DBB-C game), I'll do my best to offer my thoughts if I see you wondering something about the Japanese.


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RE: 31 Aug - 1 Sep 42 - 10/25/2015 3:01:13 PM   
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Hi Idaho - I've subscribed although I haven't read through the AAR yet. Just wanted to say hi and let you know I'm along for the ride.

Given that I'm reading in order to learn more about the Allies to help me in my game (which is also fall 42, and a DBB-C game), I'll do my best to offer my thoughts if I see you wondering something about the Japanese.



Great to have you aboard FK!! I've been reading yours for a while to see "the enemy's viewpoint" as well. What's your biggest concern going into late '42? L_S_T says he's running short supply in the HI, how's your industry going?

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Highlights - Bombers hit Moresby and find no CAP; KB sighted by sub in the Aleutians NW of Attu near Medny Is.

Jpn ships sunk:
SS: 1 (I-15)
CM: 1 (small)

Jpn ships unsunk:
DD: 1 (Murakumo)

Allied ships sunk: None

Air loss:
Jpn: 19
Allied: 12

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 5 Attacks, 0 ships hit

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: NSTR

In NOPAC, SS Sailfish sights KB and misses CV Hiryu with 2xtorps (only 2 fired??!!) near Medny Island - so the KB is still out and about - dodging subs. With over a dozen subs in the North Pacific area - from Attu to Japan, and another half dozen east of Attu, maybe one, just one can get a fish into a carrier! In any case, Attu invasion and US CVs continue to loiter 400m south of Adak.

CENPAC, NSTR.

In SOPAC, quiet returns, with KB2 sighted SW of Nauru Island heading NW. With KB2 hopefully moving out of the area, will launch the first daylight heavy bomber raid on Tulagi to stir things up, and resume normal shipping to islands. Both Vaitupu and Ndeni need supply runs. Plan for the next few months is still to limit advances to these to islands - focus will shift to SWPAC. Once the fleet returns from refit, will look to potentially land at Lunga.

In SWPAC, Moresby is swept again by P-38s, but they find no opposition, and bombers hit the AF causing moderate damage (33 AF dam reported). The convoy that was there, departed at speed and was not hit. Surprised that L_S_T conceded the air after only one sweep - will continue to hit Moresby and then expand to hitting Horn Is and other targets. As the majority of the US fleet goes into refit in a few weeks, Allied effort will focus on seizing Horn Island and opening the gateway to Northern Australia from the east. I see southern New Guinea and an eastern approach toward Darwin as a “soft underbelly” rather than slogging up through Port Moresby/Milne Bay which are both reportedly heavily defended.

In WAUS, IJA advance toward Tennant Creek has apparently been abandoned as troops look to be heading back north towards Daly Waters. That has allowed me to shift the bomber force to SWPAC for a while. In the west, the first xAKL docks at Exmouth and begins offloading - no reaction from the Port Hedland air….yet.

In China, the enemy’s main focus continues to be a dagger aimed at Chungking from the NE and east. I can slow him down perhaps, but I can’t field a force with any supply to stop him. Not looking good here.

In India/Burma, IJA closes on Paoshan in Bde strength with more troops coming. Paoshan is at fort level 4 and packed with 20k troops - the max stacking of the hex. I may have to commit more Chinese to hold it, but not sure I can sustain the added numbers. Along the coast, its fairly quiet, with Wellingtons hitting Rangoon port at night, reportedly putting two bombs on the “sunk” CL Kuma. Also, the British 2nd Div and 2/3 of the 70th Div, have crossed the river east of Cox’s Bazaar and will begin attacking the IJA along the IJA’s flank defending Akyab. Additional IJA reinforcements to theater reportedly have landed at Rangoon (such as the 21st ID), and the goal is to flank Akyab before these troops have moved to support - but this is going to be a long slow slog in the jungle.





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RE: 31 Aug - 1 Sep 42 - 10/25/2015 6:13:11 PM   
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Hi Idaho - I've subscribed although I haven't read through the AAR yet. Just wanted to say hi and let you know I'm along for the ride.

Given that I'm reading in order to learn more about the Allies to help me in my game (which is also fall 42, and a DBB-C game), I'll do my best to offer my thoughts if I see you wondering something about the Japanese.



Great to have you aboard FK!! I've been reading yours for a while to see "the enemy's viewpoint" as well. What's your biggest concern going into late '42? L_S_T says he's running short supply in the HI, how's your industry going?


I'm not running short although I don't have a ton. I think you have to run it down early on no matter what. The trick is to try and slow your operations down early enough that you have time to build up some stockpiles. On my month summaries you can see what my supply situation looks like at least in the Home Islands region. I haven't had supply problems at the front yet, so I think it is going okay.

So, if I had advice for you, it would be keep him engaged, at least marginally, so he always has to keep expending supplies.

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RE: 31 Aug - 1 Sep 42 - 10/29/2015 6:22:12 PM   
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So, if I had advice for you, it would be keep him engaged, at least marginally, so he always has to keep expending supplies.



Unfortunately for Allied Cause, L_S_T is very much engaged in crippling China....was hoping that would be a supply drain enough to limit his ambitions there. Not so.

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Highlights - Hv bombers hit Moresby again and find no CAP and Tulagi also hit; Chittagong bombarded by sea after minor naval skirmish.

Jpn ships sunk:
SS: 1 (I-153)
CM: 1 (small)

Jpn ships unsunk:
DD: 1 (Tanakaze)

Allied ships sunk:
DD: 2 (Hotspur, Isis)
MGB: 6

Air loss:
Jpn: 43
Allied: 41

Subwar:
Jpn: 4 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 1 Attacks, 1 ships hit (small CM hit)

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Kaimana (SWPAC)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: NSTR

In NOPAC, no sign of KB and it appears that the Attu Invasion TF (and BBs) have been sighted by subs transiting NOPAC heading for West Coast - just bad luck/timing here. Will have to pull the TFs east toward Dutch Harbor, just in case the KB wants to try and find some prey. US CVs will also pull east for a short while - then disengage and head to West Coast for refits. Still would like to land at Attu, before the weather closes in, but not with the KB prowling about.

CENPAC, small TF to depart Pearl for Midway to pull off the Army Engineer regiment there - it will head to SWPAC for Horn Island landing.

In SOPAC, first daylight raid on Tulagi by heavy bombers - rather than the single large formation as on Moresby, the bombers stream in - including the debut of the B24, but fortunately only encounter Rufes on CAP - 18 are lost in exchange for a pair of B-17s. Moderate damage to AF. No sign of KB 2.

In SWPAC, Moresby hit by single strike of 60 B-17s on the 4th and 51 on the 5th. Nice. Moderate damage to AF, again no CAP. Heavies need a rest however; mediums will hit it next turn. While I want to keep the pressure on, I still don’t have enough planes. Will continue to build up SWPAC in preparation for landing at Horn Island next month while the majority of the US fleet is in refit.

In WAUS, F4Fs out of Tennant Creek decide to exceed their giving 4 hex range, and stray over Daly Waters - losing 2 in exchange for 4 Oscar IIa and a pair of Tojos. Got lucky here. Does appear that the IJA has called off the advance on Tennant Creek as all IJA south of Daly Waters have moved back north. Still quiet over Exmouth as the xAKL continues to offload.

In China, no major catastrophes last turn….

In India/Burma, first the good news. British 2nd Div destroys the 55th Cav Reg 80m due east of Cox’s Bazaar, and will move to join the 70th Div in the drive to flank Akayb. US 27th Div moving up from Chittagong as a reserve while the British 18th Div continues to threaten Akyab directly. Still a slow slog, and hopefully we can put enough pressure on the IJA before reinforcements arrive in strength (21st ID is known to have been landed at Rangoon). Now for the bad news - Chittagong is again bombarded by a strong naval force (3CA, 2CL, 5DD) after that naval force sunk 2 DDs that were taking shelter at Chittagong after a brief fight between an Allied CL TF (2CL, 5DD) and an IJN DD TF (4DD) was inconclusive - both sides having two DDs damaged. Also engaged were the 6 British MGBs at Chittagong, which were easily brushed aside by the IJN DDs. Damage to the AF was enough to close it (barely) and destroy 9 a/c on the ground. Still no solution to halting the naval bombardments until airpower becomes more sufficient.


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RE: 4-5 Sep 42 - 10/29/2015 7:25:18 PM   
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Still no solution to halting the naval bombardments until airpower becomes more sufficient.


I take it you haven't had much luck with mines?

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RE: 31 Aug - 1 Sep 42 - 10/30/2015 12:30:56 AM   
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So, if I had advice for you, it would be keep him engaged, at least marginally, so he always has to keep expending supplies.



Unfortunately for Allied Cause, L_S_T is very much engaged in crippling China....was hoping that would be a supply drain enough to limit his ambitions there. Not so.


The supply effects don't kick in until later. It could be that LST is going through too much supply now and will be hurt by the middle of 43.

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RE: 4-5 Sep 42 - 10/31/2015 7:51:06 PM   
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Still no solution to halting the naval bombardments until airpower becomes more sufficient.


I take it you haven't had much luck with mines?


I find mines work best against bombardments when they are laid in an approach hex, not the target hex. To get that to work well, it needs to be a shallow hex, and I've got some indication a bombardment TF is heading in - otherwise the mines just don't last. And my luck recently has been every time I lay one of those approach minefields, my timing has been off.

Mines laid in the hex - unless they're thickly laid (over 250 maybe) don't seem to do much. Just not enough mines for heavy minefields - I've managed that only at Ndeni.

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Highlights - Chittagong bombarded by sea again; Chinese hold Paoshan against determined attack.

Jpn ships sunk:
SS: 1 (I-11)
YO: 1
ACM: 1

Jpn ships unsunk:
SS: 1 (I-19)

Allied ships sunk: None

Air loss:
Jpn: 19
Allied: 36

Subwar:
Jpn: 4 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 2 Attacks, 1 ships hit (YO sunk)

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Mataram (DEI)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: NSTR

West Coast/Admin. NSTR

In NOPAC, it looks like the sub sighting the US TFs have brought the wolves to look for the prey - an unidentified TF is sighted 280m SWS of Attu heading east. I’m betting this is the KB. While the US TFs head east, hopefully out of harms way, perhaps the KB strays within 6 hexes of Amchitka and or Attu where US airpower - reinforced from the CVs - can launch a strike. In any case, it doesn’t look like the Attu invasion will take place any time soon.

CENPAC, NSTR.

In SOPAC, while I rest the B-17s, a squadron of B-24s and LB-30s hit Tulagi port at low (2000ft) altitude with good effect - reportedly sinking a sub, and putting 2 bombs into a DD (Tanakaze) and 3 onto an AR - both are left burning. Will follow up with additional port strikes next turn. Resupply convoy arrives at Ndeni without incident, and the Ndeni AF reaches level 3.

In SWPAC, the Mediums didn’t fly against Moresby, only two squadrons hit Horn Is (weather maybe?). RAAF Hudsons find a TF off Milne Bay - presumably a convoy offloading. Hudsons miss a DD, but no CAP comes up, so next turn will try and hit the shipping with B-25s, B-17s resposition at Cloncurry and rest. The P-38s are heading west - and will operate out of WAUS in the next few days against Port Hedland.

In WAUS, quiet in the Tennant Creek front. In the west, a small convoy of 3 xAKLs with AM escort will head to Exmouth; Carnarvon will provide LRCAP as the Exmouth AF isn’t quite ready. At sea, its time to dissolve the CV Group - the IJN seems to have moved its focus to the Indian Ocean, and its time to pre position for refits. CVs Lex and Sara with escort, as well as the British ships, will head to Cape Town. CV Yorktown TF will head to Melbourne. Most of US CV’s aircraft will fly off to Australia and operate from there while the ships are away in refit. That should provide enough of an air umbrella, in addition to Army a/c, to support the landing at Horn Is next month.

In China, pressure continues from all sides. In the SE, after holding for a turn, a Chinese Corps falls back on Kukong - the problem here is more a lack of supply than anything else, and I doubt I’ll be able to hold Kukong.

In India/Burma, the British attack east of Cox’s Bazaar by two Bdes of the 70th Div are held by two regiments of the 55th Div, but casualties are light on both sides. Will wait until the third Bde of the 70th Div closes up in a few days. On the coast, Chittagong is again bombarded, this time by a BB TF (3BB, 2CL, 4DD), with good effect - closing the AF and destroying 15 a/c on the ground. Not good. Also not good was the Tojos sweeping Paoshan very effectively; 6 Hurris and 6 P-66 Vanguards were shot down in exchange for only 2 Tojos. The Tojos ARE good! The Tojo sweep was in preparation of a ground assault on Paoshan, which was held with very heavy IJA losses. The challenge now will be to keep Paoshan supplied as the additional Chinese Corps I sent in to hold the base, took the defenders over the stacking limit. Will focus the Ledo based transports on resupplying Paoshan.






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Highlights - Fairly quiet; US LBA claims 3DDs in two separate attacks.

Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 3 (Akizuki, Usugumo, Mutsuki)

Allied ships sunk: None

Air loss:
Jpn: 11
Allied: 10

Subwar:
Jpn: 0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 2 Attacks, 0 ships

Jpn Amph Inv:
Sepandjang (DEI)

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost:
Sepandjang (DEI)

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: NSTR

West Coast/Admin. NSTR

In NOPAC, SS Triton fails to penetrate a DD screen - presumably the KB - SSW of Attu. Not sure if the IJN CVs are loitering, or heading back towards Japan. They did not head east as expected. In any case, the US CVs, less the majority of their airgroups, are heading slowly towards the West Coast for refit and repair while the Attu Amph TF is closing on Kodiak where it will offload and allow the troops to shake off the disruption they’ve accrued.

CENPAC, NSTR.

In SOPAC, a squadron of B-17s and LB-30s hit Tulagi port at 2000ft, putting 5 bombs into a DD - initially reported as Tanikaze, but Akitzuki was listed as sunk. Either way, scratch one DD. No CAP was encountered and no US losses. Meanwhile, Ndeni is resupplied and additional troops prepare to embark at Luganville for Ndeni. Transport reaches Vaitupu delivering badly needed supply without incident. Lastly, CV Enterprise TF disbands at Auckland for some needed repairs.

In SWPAC, 26 B-25s hit a DD TF off Milne Bay at 1000ft, scoring 2 bomb hits on two DDs - both of which are reported sunk and no CAP is encountered. B-26s hit Moresby AF with good effect, and again no CAP. The absence of CAP is strange - both Moresby and Milne Bay appear to be major defensive bases. Not complaining, but I need to be wary of a CAP trap in the future. Heavy bombers sit at Cloncurry fixing planes in preparation for action in WAUS.

In WAUS, Exmouth AF is now operational, and VF-2 Wildcats are brought in to provide CAP for the three xAKLs offloading as the US CVs depart the area. Still, no enemy interference, even the sub threat seems to have lessened considerably. P-38s are flown into Meekatharra in preparation to sweep Port Hedland - I expect heavy Zero CAP.

In China, NSTR.

In India/Burma, NSTR.

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In SOPAC, a squadron of B-17s and LB-30s hit Tulagi port at 2000ft, putting 5 bombs into a DD - initially reported as Tanikaze, but Akitzuki was listed as sunk. Either way, scratch one DD. No CAP was encountered and no US losses. Meanwhile, Ndeni is resupplied and additional troops prepare to embark at Luganville for Ndeni. Transport reaches Vaitupu delivering badly needed supply without incident. Lastly, CV Enterprise TF disbands at Auckland for some needed repairs.


Where are these B-17's and LB-30's attacking from?

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RE: 8-9 Sep 42 - 11/6/2015 2:51:53 AM   
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In SOPAC, a squadron of B-17s and LB-30s hit Tulagi port at 2000ft, putting 5 bombs into a DD - initially reported as Tanikaze, but Akitzuki was listed as sunk. Either way, scratch one DD. No CAP was encountered and no US losses. Meanwhile, Ndeni is resupplied and additional troops prepare to embark at Luganville for Ndeni. Transport reaches Vaitupu delivering badly needed supply without incident. Lastly, CV Enterprise TF disbands at Auckland for some needed repairs.


Where are these B-17's and LB-30's attacking from?


In this case it was Luganville.

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RE: 8-9 Sep 42 - 11/6/2015 3:00:43 AM   
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Do you also have some in the east coast of Australia? Or Noumea?

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Do you also have some in the east coast of Australia? Or Noumea?


I have most of my B-17s in NE Aus - but bounce around Aus at different bases as needed. When I'm not using Luganville to launch a strike, I'll pull what heavies I have in SOPAC back to Noumea.

Goal is to mass for a strike, but not to leave a lucrative target for a bombardment run.

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My guess is that the lack of CAP at Moresby and Milne Bay is that he has upgraded the fighters and they are not yet made serviceable. Isn't this about the time the George makes an appearance?

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RE: 8-9 Sep 42 - 11/10/2015 11:10:38 PM   
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My guess is that the lack of CAP at Moresby and Milne Bay is that he has upgraded the fighters and they are not yet made serviceable. Isn't this about the time the George makes an appearance?



Man, I hope not!! In any case, with PDU off, I hope to see few Georges for a while...

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