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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 11/25/2015 5:01:38 PM   
Jagdtiger14


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Status: offline 		Our group does not play with carpet bombing as its too powerful! When the US comes in...ouch!

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 11/25/2015 6:42:26 PM   
Centuur


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ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

Our group does not play with carpet bombing as its too powerful! When the US comes in...ouch!


Same here. It's far to powerfull once the Allies start using their strategic bombers this way. In reality, both the USSR and the Wallies did use their bombers once for this before an attack. The ground forces which had to attack in to the area's thus bombed, were not making a lot of progress, because of the extensive damage done to the terrain, which favoured the defender a lot. After that, the use of strategic bombers for these kind of jobs was abandoned...
MWIF doesn't reflect this at all and IMHO the results table used (the STRAT bombing table) is far too optimistic where the number of losses are concerned.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 11/30/2015 6:00:46 PM   
AllenK


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Status: offline 		Perhaps there should also be a bombing roll for a randomly selected adjacent hex containing friendly forces to represent the 'friendly fire' bombing incidents that occurred when the Allies used carpet bombing.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 11/30/2015 6:06:49 PM   
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Perhaps there should also be a bombing roll for a randomly selected adjacent hex containing friendly forces to represent the 'friendly fire' bombing incidents that occurred when the Allies used carpet bombing.


That kind of events made them to choose same colors of smokes for both army and air force in different situations. It was hard to avoid bombing friendly forces if air force have green smoke for target and army uses green smoke to show friendly forces...

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 11/30/2015 6:09:32 PM   
AllenK


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The Allies look around at the pretty dismal weather across the globe and decide there isn't much of use they can accomplish. With a 30% chance to end the turn if all pass, they decide to go for it.

Turn ends on a 2.

No partisans.

US puts a marker in the Jap pool. US chooses lend-lease to China, which goes pretty well unnoticed (9 rolled). It also chooses lend-lease to Western Allies, which gets a bit more attention (8 rolled, 1 chit moved to tension pool). Status is Ge/It 6 in entry, 5 in tension. Jap 5 in entry, 1 in tension.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 11/30/2015 6:44:06 PM   
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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 11/30/2015 7:04:20 PM   
Centuur


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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 11/30/2015 8:25:23 PM   
AllenK


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Status: offline 		Expend Oil

Germany
Reorganize FTR, 3x sub (do not reorganize 3 range sub with attack factor 2). Germany uses 0,4 oil.

Italy
Reorganize all but Macchi (0,4 oil).

Japan
Reorgnize all (1,05 oil), use oil in Chiengmai.

Vichy
Reorganize everything else but HQ (0,35 oil).

Allies reorg all apart from 1 soviet CA in Leningrad.

No scrap for Axis

Production

Germany 22
2x sub (2nd) 4842 and 4841
sub (1st)
ARM
MOT div
INF
MIL
LND3
Pilot

Italy 6
MIL
Sub (2nd) 5045
LND3

Japan 10
INF
MIL
CP
CVP0
2x CVP1
CVL Chitose (2nd)

Vichy 3
Save 3 BP's somewhere in France.

China 5
Sub 1st
Mtn

CW 19
CP x2
Nav-4
Pilot x2
Trans 1st
Para
Ftr-2

US 20
CP x2
Amph 1st
Ftr-2 x2
Pilot
Inf x3

USSR 14
Mil x3
Inf x2

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 11/30/2015 9:00:32 PM   
AllenK


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Germany
MIL
GAR in Stuttgart
MTN and ENG in Königsberg
Sub in Kiel

Italy
Assing pilot to LND3 Alcione
MIL
2x CP in La Spezia
LND3 in Trieste

Japan
Assing pilot to A6M2 and Ki-27
MIL
CA in Osaka
A6M2 in Yokohama
Ki-27 in Hiroshima

China
Stillwell to Wuhan
Cav to Nanchang.

UK
Pilot to CVP and loaded on CV placed in Liverpool.
2 CA and 2 CP also to Liverpool.

US
2 Garr on West Coast

USSR
Ftr's to Stalingrad and Stavropol.
Various Mils

Initiative

Axis 8, Allies 7. Axis go first.

Weather






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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 1:15:52 AM   
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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 6:24:20 PM   
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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 6:25:16 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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No DoW

Germany and Japan land, Italy combined.

Italy sends 4 factor FTR to West Med box 2. Germany sends 6 factor FTR to West Med box 2.

Italian sub sails to Cape St. Vincent box 3.

Axis initiates combat in both sea areas.




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 6:29:05 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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Status: offline 		Cape St. Vincent:

Axis 10, Allies 2.

AllenK is offline but I think he wants to sink my sub instead of just avoiding combat.

Allies use all their points to increase damage up to 2D A.

Italy is lucky and rolls a 10, sub is aborted back to Bordeaux.




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 6:32:02 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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Italy intercepts NAV to box 2.

Do CW want to fly planes?





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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 6:32:41 PM   
AllenK


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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 6:33:36 PM   
AllenK


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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 6:34:25 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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ORIGINAL: AllenK

Good call.


It was easy one as CW took NE for damage

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 6:35:25 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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Status: offline 		West Med rolls: Axis 3, Allies 6. No combat.

Those French ships have sailed for moths without Axis being able to find them...

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 6:37:39 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 7:08:14 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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Status: offline 		Germany rails AA gun to Stalino and 2x ENG to Novgorod area. Italy rails Turin MIL to Trieste.

Japan retreats. In Manchuria remaining 3 units are now in Port Arthur and they will stay or die there! (Doubled defence 28)

Germany declares attack against pocket in southern front and uses HQ support.

I believe USSR uses winterized units to get following odds? And I guess we go with assault?




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 7:10:17 PM   
AllenK


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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 7:16:12 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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Status: offline 		Odds roll is good and combat roll is even better!




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 7:26:05 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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Status: offline 		Germany rebases Ju88 to southern front near Stalino.

Italy rebases two bombers to Latvia.

Italy reorganizes sub.

Back to Allies.

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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 7:30:59 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 7:32:29 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 9:00:52 PM   
AllenK


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Status: offline 		N/D 40 Allies 4

No DoW.

CW & France, Naval. China & USSR, Land. US, Naval.

CW sends out various escorts.

US sends a CV and 2 CL to East Coast 0-box.

Allies decline combat in West Med.

Factory is railed from Yaroslavl to Tiflis. Mil rails from east to Gorki.

Nationalists advance towards Shanghai. Communists see about taking cites and rail hexes. USSR makes some minor adjustments in Manchuria and USSR.






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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/1/2015 9:05:29 PM   
AllenK


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Status: offline 		Soviets rebase their Ftr from Leningrad to Yaroslavl.

No reorgs

Weather.




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/3/2015 6:54:05 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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No DoW

Germany and Japan land, Italy combined.

Italian sub sails back to Cape St. Vincent box 3 and initiates combat there.

Axis 8, Allies 6. No combat.

Germany rails INF HQ from Murmansk to south, MTN near Novgorod and INF HQ in southern front to front line.

Germany advances slowly, Italy does not move and Japan retreats.

One land combat is declared, do USSR want to fly any planes? German FTR can intercept if needed.




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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/4/2015 9:29:42 AM   
AllenK


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RE: AllenK vs Mayhemizer III: Oil be back. - 12/4/2015 12:48:28 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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