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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/8/2015 10:59:34 AM   
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'The British Battleship: 1906-1946' by Norman Friedman.
Friedman tries hard to bring a new perspective to well-trodden paths.
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Anything on the Lion-class Mr Z?


Yes, but I haven't got their yet. Lots of pictures and a centerfold with architectural drawings.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/8/2015 11:02:05 AM   
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'The British Battleship: 1906-1946' by Norman Friedman.
Friedman tries hard to bring a new perspective to well-trodden paths.
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Anything on the Lion-class Mr Z?


Yes, but I haven't got their yet. Lots of pictures and a centerfold with architectural drawings.
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Please let me know when you do. Having got Burt's tome's it seems like a bit of an extravagance to get this - but if there is a meaty section on the Lion-class (missing from Burt) then I may succumb

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/9/2015 3:24:47 AM   
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I am reading the World in Flames manuals, having just finished the WiF Annual from 1993.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/9/2015 10:50:57 PM   
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'The British Battleship: 1906-1946' by Norman Friedman.
Friedman tries hard to bring a new perspective to well-trodden paths.
warspite1

Anything on the Lion-class Mr Z?


Yes, but I haven't got their yet. Lots of pictures and a centerfold with architectural drawings.
warspite1

Please let me know when you do. Having got Burt's tome's it seems like a bit of an extravagance to get this - but if there is a meaty section on the Lion-class (missing from Burt) then I may succumb

I wouldn't call it 'meaty', but the Lion class is covered to the same extent as other un-built ships are. Friedman gives various design studies and how the Admiralty settled on the Lion specs.

One point I found interesting is that the modernization of older ships in the 30's was constrained more by the number of available docks than money.

Churchill gets the usual criticism for interfering and pushing his pet projects.

All in all a good book but don't expect to learn much. The centerfold drawings are good.
I will pass on Burt's 2 volumes.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/10/2015 3:24:27 AM   
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I'm finishing off the "Dark Space" six book sci-fi series.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/10/2015 5:44:36 AM   
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'The British Battleship: 1906-1946' by Norman Friedman.
Friedman tries hard to bring a new perspective to well-trodden paths.
warspite1

Anything on the Lion-class Mr Z?


Yes, but I haven't got their yet. Lots of pictures and a centerfold with architectural drawings.
warspite1

Please let me know when you do. Having got Burt's tome's it seems like a bit of an extravagance to get this - but if there is a meaty section on the Lion-class (missing from Burt) then I may succumb

I wouldn't call it 'meaty', but the Lion class is covered to the same extent as other un-built ships are. Friedman gives various design studies and how the Admiralty settled on the Lion specs.

One point I found interesting is that the modernization of older ships in the 30's was constrained more by the number of available docks than money.

Churchill gets the usual criticism for interfering and pushing his pet projects.

All in all a good book but don't expect to learn much. The centerfold drawings are good.
I will pass on Burt's 2 volumes.
warspite1

Thanks. I think I will pass for the present but probably would have bought his one had it appeared before Burt. A shame but I cannot really justify another book on the same subject on my budget.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/14/2015 9:24:25 AM   
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I finished B-29 Story: The Plane That Won The [Pacific] War by Gene Gurney

I have just started Debt: The First 5000 Years by American anthropologist David Graeber

"David Graeber presents a stunning reversal of conventional wisdom: he shows that before there was money, there was debt. For more than 5,000 years, since the beginnings of the first agrarian empires, humans have used elaborate credit systems to buy and sell goods—that is, long before the invention of coins or cash. It is in this era, Graeber argues, that we also first encounter a society divided into debtors and creditors".



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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/14/2015 9:29:40 AM   
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"Foolproof" by Greg Ip


I had missed this author and book. Thanks for the tip. I will buy and read it

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/15/2015 5:54:21 PM   
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Allies At War. Simon Berthon

This is the book that accompanies the truly brilliant 3-part BBC documentary from a few years back. While reading Torch I remembered this series and was going to purchase the DVD. However I saw the book and plumped for that instead.

It tells the absorbing, fascinating, and frankly downright frustrating tale of the relationship between the American President Franklin D Roosevelt, the British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and the leader of the Free French Charles de Gaulle, during World War II.

President Roosevelt comes out of this really badly – although I put a large share of the blame on his pro-Vichy/anti-British advisors, particularly Admiral Leahy. Roosevelt knew what it took to get the war won and did it, but it is clear that the breakdown in his relationship with de Gaulle was personal, and it really affected his judgement – much to the frustration of his own generals, Eisenhower (who continues to rise in my estimation) in particular.

The difficult situation was no doubt exacerbated by the ****ly*, difficult character that was Charles de Gaulle. He was often his own worst enemy, ungrateful, rude and never averse to biting the hand that fed him. But one cannot help but have some sympathy for de Gaulle’s actions which were driven by his love of France and I think, acute embarrassment that his country’s reputation and honour were being eroded through the shameful actions of Petain, Laval, Darlan and co at Vichy. The fact that he had to call on the British for help probably rubbed salt into the wounds of this proud Frenchman.

In the middle was Churchill. Clever enough to realise that only an Alliance with the US was going to get the war won, but a Francophile at heart who admired and respected de Gaulle, even though the latter’s actions often put Churchill in impossible situations. The problems between France and the UK post-war were sown during the period 1942-45 as Churchill, needing to win the war first and foremost, told de Gaulle that in a choice between the US and France, Britain would support the US every time. The Frenchman never forgot this remark.

The mark of a great book is being sorry when it comes to an end. This is a great book and has fed my thirst for more knowledge on the subject.

Now - back to Torch!

Anyone know any good books on de Gaulle (concentrating on the war years) and Darlan and/or Petain?

*EDIT - just noticed the asterisks . Please note I wrote 'p-r-i-c-k-l-y - and not some swear word


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/25/2015 9:59:32 PM   
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This thread calls out for a BUMP!

I'm currently reading "Season of the Harvest" by Michael Hicks. A GMO horror story about aliens creating hybrid seed corn that will implant a retrovirus that will turn us all into monsters as the aliens adjust the Earth to their liking.

http://www.amazon.com/Season-The-Harvest-Trilogy-Book-ebook/dp/B004MME1RU


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/26/2015 7:27:43 AM   
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Reading Iron Curtain: The Crushing of Eastern Europe 1944–56 by Anne Applebaum.

But it is slow going since I do not have enough energy to read heavy books.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 11/30/2015 9:07:52 PM   
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Raylan by Elmore Leonard.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/2/2015 8:05:40 PM   
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"The Long Shadow : The Legacies of the Great War in the Twentieth Century" by David Reynolds

Wow, this is just wonderful. So much here I never knew, or did not know what I thought I "knew". Fine writer too.

Highly recommended.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/2/2015 8:43:57 PM   
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"The Long Shadow : The Legacies of the Great War in the Twentieth Century" by David Reynolds

Wow, this is just wonderful. So much here I never knew, or did not know what I thought I "knew". Fine writer too.

Highly recommended.
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+1 I haven't read the book (didn't know there was one) but the BBC did a three part TV series last year, presented by the author. A thoroughly watchable, thought provoking documentary.

Thanks. I may have to stick this on my 'to buy' list.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/3/2015 12:28:09 PM   
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agree about Long Shadow its excellent. Worth reading in conjunction with AJP Taylor's essays in Europe: Grandeur and Decline as a complete contrast both in style and conclusions. Reynolds seems a classic documentary evidence driven historian and Taylor was never a man to let facts interfere too much with his opinions (but was good at reaching for grand narratives).

Anyway, I've been looking for a good work on the strategic airwar as WiTW has raised my interest in this. Struggled to find anything that wasn't a Hastings' style love in for Bomber Command or a hatchet job on Harris.

Found Richard Overy - The Bombing War. Covers the entire war and every state that used bombing of cities/industry as part of their approach. Switches from the impact on societies to the stresses that afflicted the bomber crews. To me its that near perfect mix of the politics, economics and psychology of war.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/3/2015 1:24:11 PM   
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I would second this too. Only read one Richard Overy book so far, but found it a really good read.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/6/2015 9:47:33 AM   
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Playing DC: Barbarossa so have a yearning for the Eastern Front. Time to get out Third Axis Fourth Ally.

Can anyone recommend a good book covering the entire campaign? I have only read Ostkrieg (Fritz) and Barbarossa (Clark).

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/6/2015 11:13:19 AM   
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From the Soviet perspective, I'd recommend Erickson's Road to Stalingrad/Road to Berlin. They are a bit dated but he melds military and political issues very well (which I think is important to understand Soviet actions). Also, although he wrote them in the 1970s he got access to the sealed Stavka archives (incl stuff that was not released even after 1991). So his detail stuff has been less undermined by research post the fall of the USSR (as has affected say Clark).

I find him easier to read than Glantz and much less likely to declare that this or that minor action was the one true decisive moment in the campaign.

The Soviet army liked him as an understanding but external commentator (hence his access). He fought in the Balkans with SOE. There is a story of him sharing an aeroflot flight to Moscow in the early 80s with a bunch of pro-Soviet trade unionists etc. Much to their disgust, they were left to deal with the horrors of Soviet bureaucracy while he was given 5 star treatment and whisked off in a Zil.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/6/2015 12:30:26 PM   
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Hi loki100 - thanks for the response. Sadly I will pass on this. I bought this book (RtS) back in the early 90's and tried three times to read it. I eventually gave up for good having never got very far. I just found the author's writing style too impenetrable.....

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/6/2015 1:59:32 PM   
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Hi loki100 - thanks for the response. Sadly I will pass on this. I bought this book (RtS) back in the early 90's and tried three times to read it. I eventually gave up for good having never got very far. I just found the author's writing style too impenetrable.....


You may find "When Titans Clashed: Revised and Extended" by Glantz and House more readable.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/7/2015 6:31:53 PM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/11/2015 4:05:34 PM   
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Hi loki100 - thanks for the response. Sadly I will pass on this. I bought this book (RtS) back in the early 90's and tried three times to read it. I eventually gave up for good having never got very far. I just found the author's writing style too impenetrable.....


You may find "When Titans Clashed: Revised and Extended" by Glantz and House more readable.

warspite1

Thanks Emperor. I have plumped for this - although Amazon is currently out of stock. Never mind, this will give me another chance to read Third Axis, Fourth Ally in the meantime. First time round I only read about the naval war and the air war in this brilliant book - so time now to finish off the book with a visit to the land war on the Eastern Front.


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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/11/2015 4:22:04 PM   
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West and East by Harry Turtledove. Book two of the War that came Early series!

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/13/2015 12:16:18 AM   
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Relishing The Bonfire of the Vanities, Tom Wolfe.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/13/2015 5:43:56 AM   
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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/13/2015 8:22:22 AM   
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Countdown to Zero Day by Kim Zetter. It's the story of the Stuxnet virus that was used against Iranian nuclear plants.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/13/2015 10:02:10 AM   
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I am finishing Order of Chaos memoirs of Herman Balck

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/13/2015 12:22:48 PM   
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Battle for Empire: The very first world war 1756-63 by Tom Pocock. Interesting read as he goes into the personalities involved on the British side.

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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/15/2015 10:40:57 AM   
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A very good Napoleonic book I thought was "Napoleons Army "by Col H.C.B.Rogers 1974 that follows Davouts III Corp



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RE: What Book Are You Reading at the moment? - 12/15/2015 4:33:51 PM   
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Sink 'Em All by Charles A. Lockwood (aka Boss-in-Chief Submarine Force Pacific Fleet)

I had read Doenitz's book too, so that makes 2 books about 2 different and enemy WW2 submarine forces

Doenitz's forces lost 3/4 of their men (30.000 out of 40.000 men ). Lockwood's hordes literally annihilated the Japanese merchant marine. Two different massacres that is.

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