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RE: Disaster! - 2/11/2016 5:09:51 AM

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Here are more units at Nagoya. The artillery with 20 something disruption arrived yesterday.

Those are all units that can either:

1) Fire back at bombarding ships (AA/ART has gun tubes that will fire if ships come within range, yes?), especially if he has the bombardment range set to 0.

2) Base forces, which will be disrupted as the AF (for Av Supp) or Port (for Nav Supp) is bombarded.

Does that 1st Ind. Tank Co have tubes to shoot back at the ships?

An important point though - having the bombardment standoff range does not mean a battleship will close in to the beach - they will usually come in no closer than 4000 yards, but DDs sometimes come in as close as 2000 yards. Even with ranges this close, DP guns seem to save their anti-ship ammo for an amphib TF rather than a bombardment one.

"Seem to"? I think they shoot at the first targets that come into range.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/11/2016 11:41:33 AM

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Judging by the caliber of hits on ships bombarding, they do not shoot. But when I tried landing troops they sure shoot up the amphib ships if I do not have plenty of suppression ships embedded in the TF.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/11/2016 3:33:53 PM

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Judging by the caliber of hits on ships bombarding, they do not shoot. But when I tried landing troops they sure shoot up the amphib ships if I do not have plenty of suppression ships embedded in the TF.

This could be a function of the range, I suppose, as the combat ships will begin their bombardment from farther offshore and move closer in until they use up the allotted ammo for the bombardment (when DL is lower, I have seen ships use up less than half of their main battery ammo - another reason DL is important).

It's possible that the amphibs are treated as coming in closer than the bombarding ships do, so are shot at by more weapons.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/11/2016 4:38:41 PM

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Thanks Alfred for the clarifications.

I am sending two more tank regiments of Type 3s to Nagoya to beef up the defense there. Two shattered divisions are on their way out, while I will rotate some Depot divisions in to absorb the aerial/port attacks.

I managed to FT 1000 supplies into Vietnam this day...the PB will probably be sunk tomorrow, but mission accomplished. I have a weak air supply bridge flying supplies in, but it simply isn't enough. Added to the FT, and transports, an SST is running supplies, and I think I will augment that with more subs.

I hope to have a few surprises for the Allies this upcoming day.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/12/2016 7:24:10 PM

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July 12, 1944

Allies catch a few of my planes on the ground and some Jacks when I miss a setting and their CAP bleeds into a Jugs sweep.

No major attacks, just threatening accumulation of Allied troops.

I have a few traps set, but they don't spring day after day.

I have 200 type 3 tanks in the field. Make 2-4 a day and I have surpassed the actual production.

Still holding below a 2-1 allied AV; if not this month, then next for sure.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 4:31:20 PM

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Still holding below a 2-1 allied AV; if not this month, then next for sure

Hmmm your opponent seems to pull off pyrrhic victories .. do not be so sure ..

You have pulled off quite a turnaround extending this game. More so .. you have taught all the AFB's
the evils of an early "Hokkaido Hurricane" or invasion of the home islands

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 4:42:57 PM

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Almost all of Honshu has 9/10 dl or thereabouts. No place left to hide.

Hvy bombardments at Nagoya, heavy air bombing on my runways, and at Matsumaya against the troops. Probably an attack there.

A big fear is now the Allies have interior lines and good roads.

If he were to mass his tanks along with a sacrificial division or three and made an all out push for Nagoya, causing me to rejigger my lines, and then quickly moved his tanks and marines and massed a push northeast of Gifu life would be very difficult.

Well, life is pretty difficult at Nagoya now.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 4:45:35 PM

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Matsumaya

Forts back to 1 after the attack.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 4:49:13 PM

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Over near Hainan, Oscars try to stop a CVE attack and protect a ak with 4000 supply for Vietnam. They fail, but take some wildcats and bombers with them.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 4:54:01 PM

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In the north of Vietnam the 2nd Tank Div arrives and restores equilibrium in my lines there (the Allies built up a 2-1 advantage prior to arrival).

Supplies needed in Vietnam. Trying everything that I know of.

Baby carriers picket the coast. Perhaps an opportunity if I can replenish my supply.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 4:57:55 PM

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A nice little hornets nest for a blundering convoy to run into.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 5:01:54 PM

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Still holding below a 2-1 allied AV; if not this month, then next for sure

Hmmm your opponent seems to pull off pyrrhic victories .. do not be so sure ..

You have pulled off quite a turnaround extending this game. More so .. you have taught all the AFB's
the evils of an early "Hokkaido Hurricane" or invasion of the home islands

A few slight changes & I could have done so much better.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 5:02:37 PM

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I don�t think you will find anything outside Perth at this stage. He probably hasn�t sent anything on that route for years.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 5:05:59 PM

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I don�t think you will find anything outside Perth at this stage. He probably hasn�t sent anything on that route for years.

I had some intell and spottings not too long ago.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 5:07:54 PM

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The obligatory picture of Nagoya's defenders.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 6:33:09 PM

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July 14 1944

Invasion Haiphong.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 6:34:33 PM

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Ouch.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 6:39:04 PM

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French Guns operated by locals...some of the guns are 155mm. Won't really matter, this being a clear hex it is impossible to see how I can defend it.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 6:45:10 PM

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It's about time!! He should be invading lots of clear terrain bases all the way to Shanghai area in the coming months. This will close off your overland supply and put your troops in jeopardy. Next, I would be having a few TFs out of Saigon bombarding your bases up and down the Vietnam coast to raise disruption of your troops and make your life there even more difficult.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 6:53:57 PM

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Not looking good, here. The 14th Division is 1 day from Hanoi...

Not one hint of troop transports in those baby carriers...ugh.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 7:02:12 PM

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Looks like, in that terrain, getting the 14th Division there won't help. Just more troops to get smote and retreated.

I'm guessing the CAP was hell on your naval search and they didn't see squat.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 7:19:20 PM

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None of the coast is holdable. I can't mount any credible opposition on the sea or in the air.

My defense rests upon x2 or x3 terrain because I have no air force or navy so to speak.

The troops in Vietnam for the most part will be surrounded and cut off..to fight at 1/3rd strength and starve - that is till Jan 1 1945 and the expected surrender.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 10:41:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

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Still holding below a 2-1 allied AV; if not this month, then next for sure

Hmmm your opponent seems to pull off pyrrhic victories .. do not be so sure ..

You have pulled off quite a turnaround extending this game. More so .. you have taught all the AFB's
the evils of an early "Hokkaido Hurricane" or invasion of the home islands

I disagree. This is showing the evils of an early "Hokkaido Hurricane" without proper strategic focus on just knocking Japan out of the war, or on mopping up all the VPs elsewhere.

Did the invasion at Nagoya really get him more VPs than if he'd captured Luzon? What about Shikoku AND Nagoya? I'm skeptical. Manila is an enormous bag of VPs.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 10:44:00 PM

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It's about time!! He should be invading lots of clear terrain bases all the way to Shanghai area in the coming months. This will close off your overland supply and put your troops in jeopardy. Next, I would be having a few TFs out of Saigon bombarding your bases up and down the Vietnam coast to raise disruption of your troops and make your life there even more difficult.

I have had the pleasure of learning in this theater recently. This is not how I did it, but my opponent also didn't have the coastal bases fortified at all. I started at Soc Trang, then CRB - which failed at first, so I landed at Quinhon and liberated CRB that way. It's coming down around his ears now. Might've taken 3 weeks.

The challenge here as the Allied invader is to not outpace your logistics train.

Whatever Lowpe is doing that is making his opponent delay, it's working, I suppose.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/13/2016 10:44:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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Still holding below a 2-1 allied AV; if not this month, then next for sure

Hmmm your opponent seems to pull off pyrrhic victories .. do not be so sure ..

You have pulled off quite a turnaround extending this game. More so .. you have taught all the AFB's
the evils of an early "Hokkaido Hurricane" or invasion of the home islands

I disagree. This is showing the evils of an early "Hokkaido Hurricane" without proper strategic focus on just knocking Japan out of the war, or on mopping up all the VPs elsewhere.

Did the invasion at Nagoya really get him more VPs than if he'd captured Luzon? What about Shikoku AND Nagoya? I'm skeptical. Manila is an enormous bag of VPs.

Lok, I think you have the answer!

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RE: Disaster! - 2/14/2016 7:54:46 PM

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Coming up this next day -- a massive all out shock attack versus Nagoya & Haiphong. Massive!

Plus another deliberate attack on Cam Ranh Bay.

Can the Empire hold?

Tune in later true believer!

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RE: Disaster! - 2/14/2016 11:54:26 PM

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July 15,1944

In the deep dark night, of this momentous night, Japanese submarines do good work.

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RE: Disaster! - 2/15/2016 12:00:45 AM

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During the early morning, Nagoya is bombarded several times -- including the faux amphibious invasion bombardment exploit. Haiphong is plastered too, but the CD guns hole a ship or two.

Then comes a half hour of heavy bombing. Haiphong, Nagoya, Cam Ranh Bay get 90 percent of the hundreds of airstrikes.

Ouch.

8 Franks, eight

; what shell the IJAAF has become, down a halfdozen warhawks in our only offensive air mission that went off.