Hotschi
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ORIGINAL: Hotschi
Predictions for the 2016 F1 season:
World Champion: Hamilton if he establishes an early lead in the championship - or Rosberg if he prevents this, because then Hamilton is likely to show nerves and makes errors (see season 2011, see Hungaroring 2015)
warspite1
Are you saying Rosberg does not suffer from nerves and doesn't make mistakes as a result? So you quote Hungaroring 2015 but don't think Austin worth mentioning? - you know a mistake that LOST the race for Rosberg and WON the title for Lewis? Pretty big mistake there. Oh and Singapore 2009 - yep, pretty big too (needed to apologise to the team for that one), and Belgium 2014 (needed to apologise to the team for that one) and......
But hey, if you think that Lewis is the only guy out there that makes mistakes then fine.....
And again you are just building strawmen, and another one, and then another one...
.) Nowhere in my post did I write that Rosberg does not suffer from nerves and doesn't make mistakes as a result.
.) Nowhere in my post did I write or even imply that Hamilton is the only guy out there that makes mistakes.
What I did write should be clear to everyone who reads what's actually there, as it is, and not starts to distort it; I pointed out my thinking of what is the only way Rosberg could win the championship against Lewis Hamilton, and that is to put him under pressure and thus forcing him into mistakes. And that is the reason why I mentioned Hamilton's 2011 sesaon - as one example of Hamilton's mistakes - and the Hungaroring race of 2015 - as another example of Hamilton's mistakes. Any and all mistakes, anytime and anywere, by any other F1 driver, active or retired, dead or alive, successful or unsuccessful, famous or unknown, are irrelevant in this context.
One day, I hope, the time will come when you finally come to terms with reality;
1.) Not everyone here on this planet must be a Lewis Hamilton fan just because you are.
2.) Not everyone who's pointing out a way how one driver could beat Lewis Hamilton, necessarily must be a fan of the driver mentioned (Rosberg in this case).
3.) And - surprise, surprise - not everyone here on this planet, who's interested in Formula 1, must necessarily be a fan of any particular active driver!
On the other hand, strawman fallacies are just one part of the likely problems when one has to deal with fans. Some fans - not all of them - are simply incapabable of thinking outside their box. It's inconceivable to some of them that there's views around which don't fit into their own way of thinking. And it is even more inconceivable to some of these fans that any different views could possibly, even remotely, be in any way correct, or closer to the truth. And, worst, some of these fans even go so far as to consider every criticism of the object of their admiration as nothing short of - heresy.
Just to make it perfectly clear, in order to prevent you from putting up yet another strawman, I am not implying that any of the described "problems with fans" above fits in your case. This is not up to me to decide. That last paragraph above is merely a general observation of fans of any sports.
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