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RE: New Units for PC - 4/1/2016 6:49:14 PM   
Svetlanka


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Cool!
Thank you R-35 and H.Balck!
Good news.
Soon we will be able to play new units H.Balck
We all feel the impatience

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/2/2016 6:17:17 PM   
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I had a look at the soviet planes. The style is really different from bebro`s and especially the bombers and transports are so big (huge is probably the right word) that they stand out from the ones we had up to now. In my opinion it`s only worth implementing the new aircraft if the entire line of soviet planes is redone in this new style. The problem is that some of the planes do not have renders for both sides and many others don`t exist at all.

lacking renders for both sides:

I-15
I-16
MiG-3
LaGG-3
Yak-1
Tupolev SB2
Pe-8
Polikarpov Po-2
Polikarpov R-5
Lisunov Li-2



aircraft that have not been made yet:

La-7
Yak-3
Yak-7
Yak-9D
Yak-9U
P-40M
Tupolev Tu-2
B-25D
Il-2M3
A-20B
Il-10
Hurricane Mk.IID
Yer-2

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/3/2016 2:54:35 PM   
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R-35
Il-4 it is same as DB-3F

But you have forgotten
P-63 Kingcobra (2400 planes were delivered under Lend-Lease)
Spitfire Mk.V (150 planes were delivered under Lend-Lease)
Spitfire Mk.IX (1185 planes were delivered under Lend-Lease)

Besides, I think that it would be correct to make La-5F and La-5FN also

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/3/2016 5:51:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kompolka

R-35
Il-4 it is same as DB-3F

I know. It was added by mistake. I`ll edit the post.

quote:

But you have forgotten
P-63 Kingcobra (2400 planes were delivered under Lend-Lease)
Spitfire Mk.V (150 planes were delivered under Lend-Lease)
Spitfire Mk.IX (1185 planes were delivered under Lend-Lease)

Besides, I think that it would be correct to make La-5F and La-5FN also

In the second section above I`ve only listed the aircraft that we`d need to replace (i.e. those made by bebro and present in the mod), not all the aircraft that the soviets should have.

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/4/2016 4:47:07 AM   
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Panzerjager IB (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/gfydj8



Panzerjager 35R(f)
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/france/Renault_R-35.php


https://www.sendspace.com/file/1d4fc0



Panzer IB (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/u1o5zt



Panzer IIA (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/ujy4qr



Renault AMR 33 (reworked)
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/france/Renault_AMR-33.php


https://www.sendspace.com/file/xnkw94



Renault R-35 (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/m1uylv


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RE: New Units for PC - 4/4/2016 4:10:42 PM   
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@H.Balck please post the
7.5 cm Gebirgsgeschütz 36
SdKfz 2
Also, a german mountain transport with mules is missing currently. And I should add, that in spite of all the transports I`ve implemented for Belgium, the faction is missing one of its most important units: a Belgian HW Infantry to represent the motorized cavalry that Belgium had.


Can someone please help me identify the following Polish transport vehicles? I need to know what speed they had and what they were used for. If any entered service after 1 September 1939 it would be good to know the exact date.

They are supposed to represent (from top to bottom):

Wz 34 halftrack open
C4P S (we already had a C4P in use)
Fiat 621R (we also have a Fiat 621L which is already in use)
Wz 34 halftrack





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RE: New Units for PC - 4/4/2016 8:19:29 PM   
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Specifications:

Specifications for tractor variant mainly, the rest - similar:
Weight about 3,000 kg
Load capacity 1.5 - 1.7 ton (and a 0.5 - 1t. trailer).
Length 4.7 m (or longer) (185 in)
Frame length 4.54 or 4.84 or 5.25 m (178.7 /190.5 /206.7 in)
Width 1.9 m (75 in)
Track of wheels / tracks centres 1.47 /1.48 m (58.3 in)
Height 2.35 m - versions with closed cab (92.5 in)
Ground clearance 0.25 m (10 in)

Max. road speed 30-35 km/h (up to 22 mph)
Range up to 250 km
Wading depth 0.5 m (20 in)
Max. steepness 20%
Ground pressure 0.80 kg/cm2 (0.78 MPa)
Trench crossing 1 m (39 in)
Fuel consumption 60 litres /100 km (120 - off road)

As for the length - different versions. The shortest were short tractors, the longest wz.34 platform trucks.

From this side:
ttp://derela.republika.pl/c4p.htm
Look at this side for more information.


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RE: New Units for PC - 4/4/2016 10:29:25 PM   
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Thanks alot! I haven`t had time to read the entire article but it looks like what I`ve been searching for. At a first glance I think I got what I need for the C4P/Wz 34.

Btw, is the Fiat 621R meant to be a HQ/staff vehicle?

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/5/2016 9:32:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: R35


Btw, is the Fiat 621R meant to be a HQ/staff vehicle?

I mean yes.

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/6/2016 4:31:55 AM   
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H.Balck wrote:
wrong UC scale fir this tow sended units!

PzIIA add


https://www.sendspace.com/file/6ri1xk

PzIB add


https://www.sendspace.com/file/9p6jam

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/6/2016 5:00:30 AM   
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PzIA (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/hi1wef


PzIIC (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/6ql76c


PzIIF (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/daayd2


PzIVD (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/sps3bz

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/6/2016 3:54:18 PM   
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@Anduril many thanks!

I have a question: what is the purpose of the new German Bicycle Infantry unit? Reading through this thread:
http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15604
and others that I found it seems there weren`t any big bicycle units in the Wehrmacht. Just squadrons as part of battalions/regiments, at most a company worth of troops and they were used for reconnaissance purposes. Clearly not a close contact unit in the sense that the infantry class in PzC functions. So do we even need such a unit and if so, how should it be implemented?

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/6/2016 10:24:47 PM   
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Are these units available to download? Will they ever be available?

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/7/2016 7:24:54 PM   
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Each of the units has a link with the renders in each post that announces them. If you mean in the form of a mod that implements the units into the game then you`ll have to wait a bit for the next release.

When I`ll have time to complete a few more things I`ll make a partial release. Probably in a week. Most reworked units and most aircraft won`t be present in this release and several other units were left out too, due to lack of time. However, the mod has been made compatible with the latest PzC version. I have included all available graphics that replace the vanilla graphics and, in my opinion, most extra units that were really important.

IF H.Balck releases renders for all soviet planes I`ll try to implement the complete line of aircraft for them too and release an update. The same goes for the Finnish units that lack regular info cards.

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/8/2016 4:50:27 AM   
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PzIID (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/2ed6zl



Pz35(t) (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/4z6nu8



Pz38(t) (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/h3a1m1



PzIIIE (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/7ocn7m



PzIVF (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/27357h



PzIVH (reworked)


https://www.sendspace.com/file/oc6abo




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RE: New Units for PC - 4/8/2016 4:51:45 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: R35

IF H.Balck releases renders for all soviet planes I`ll try to implement the complete line of aircraft for them too and release an update. The same goes for the Finnish units that lack regular info cards.


That would be great! If H.Balck will finished a line of Soviet planes!

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/8/2016 11:22:20 AM   
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@H.Balck since you`re working on the Panzer IVH again, could you also add one for Romania? It`s its main tank for the late war and you`ve skipped it the last time you worked on the faction.

Does anyone have information on the Chevrolet M37 armoured car?
http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/30127052/ChevroletM37ArmouredcarUC_0006.png
All I can find is miniature models.

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/8/2016 4:51:36 PM   
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@H.Balck have you changed the lighting settings for your scene lately? Because for a while your units seem somewhat dark. For example here`s the newest Panzer IVH compared to the older German tanks:


The Panzer IVH looks like it was posed during a cloudy day/storm by comparison. I`m mentioning this because I think the darker setting is obscuring some of the details of the units at this scale.



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RE: New Units for PC - 4/9/2016 1:31:09 PM   
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This is all I had time for:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/u4jtdx
Read the included Readme file for credits and general list of changes.
It makes the mod compatible with the latest PzC v1.25 patch which was my original goal. I`ve also integrated as many new units as I could. As you know, not all the graphics shown above have been provided to us so you`ll notice that some of the PzC units released with its latest expansion still have their vanilla graphics. Don`t ask me about them.

For whoever is interested, here`s the pack with the animated cards that H.Balck has provided:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/p7dtlh
The entire mod (including 1249 info cards) is 85MB, but a pack of just 35 info cards weights 58MB! I don`t know how much these will affect game performance so use them at your own risk.

I also want to stress that, apart from the soviet aircraft possible exception that I`ve already noted above, this will be the last update coming from me unless more work is put into the smaller factions (Poland, Romania, Finland, Belgium, the Netherlands etc.). I`ve had enough of redoing the same german and soviet units. Don`t have time to keep that up anymore.

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/9/2016 3:27:25 PM   
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Many thanks for your hard work!

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/9/2016 5:30:01 PM   
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Thank you all very much for the 1.25 update. Much appreciated.

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/9/2016 7:05:01 PM   
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Thank you R-35

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/9/2016 7:08:44 PM   
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I tried to make a list of the new units of H.Balck that have not been added in the latest update of R-35

Soviet units
152 mm gun M1935 (Br-2)
BT-7A (reworked)
Yag-10 Radio
Armored Train No.6

German units
Sd.Kfz. 252 leichte Gepanzerte Munitionskraftwagen

Bruckenpioniere (reworked)
7.5 cm FK 16 nA (reworked)
10,5-cm-leichte Feldhaubitze 18M (reworked)
150mm sIG33 (reworked)
15-cm-schwere Feldhaubitze 18 (reworked)
Pz35(t) (reworked)
Pz38(t) (reworked)
PzII Flamingo (reworked)
PzIA (reworked)
PzIB (reworked)
PzIIA (reworked)
PzIIC (reworked)
PzIID (reworked)
PzIIF (reworked)
Panzer II Luchs (reworked)
PzIIIE (reworked)
PzIIIJ (reworked)
PzIIIJ-1 (reworked)
PzIVD (reworked)
PzIVF (reworked)
PzIVF-2 (reworked)
PzIVH (reworked)
Tiger I (reworked)
Tiger II (reworked)
Somua S35(f) (reworked)
Char B1(f)
Matilda II(e) (reworked)
T-34-40(r) (reworked)
KV-1A (r) (reworked)
Grant I(e) (reworked)
M4 Sherman(e)
Kfz 13 Adler (reworked)
Kfz 14 Bodenwanne
PSW 221 (reworked)
PSW 221 28mm
PSW 222 (reworked)
PSW 223 (reworked)
PSW 231 (6Rad) (reworked)
PSW 231 (8Rad) (reworked)
PSW 232 (Fu-8Rad) (reworked)
Sd Kfz. 233 75mm
Sd.Kfz. 234/1 (reworked)
Sd.Kfz. 234/3 (reworked)
Sd.Kfz. 234 Puma (reworked)
Sd.Kfz. 260 Fu
Sd.KfZ. 263 Fu (reworked)
Aufklarungspanzer 38(t) (reworked)
ADGZ (reworked)
BA-64 (r)
Panhard 178(f)
Panzerjäger IB (reworked)
Panzerjager 35R(f)
sIGIB (reworked)
SiG II Bison (reworked)
Marder I (reworked)
Marder I FCM36 (reworked)
Marder II (reworked)
Marder IID (reworked)
Marder IIIM (reworked)
Marder IIIH (reworked)
Hetzer (reworked)
Nashorn (reworked)
Wespe (reworked)
StuG IIIB (reworked)
StuGIIIF (reworked)
StuGIIIG (reworked)
StuGIV (reworked)
StuH42 (reworked)
Sturmpanzer IV Brummbär (reworked)
Hetzer (reworked)
Elefant (reworked)
Jagdpanzer IV (reworked)
Jagdpanzer IV/70 (reworked)
Jagdtiger (reworked)
Opel Blitz (reworked)
SdKfz 251-1A (reworked)
Sdkfz 11 (reworked)


Italian Units
Motorcycles
Lancia Ro NM Autofficina Mod. 35


French units
LORRAINE 28 (VDP)
LATIL TAR H2 heavy artillery tractor
Renault AMR 33 (reworked)
Renault R-35 (reworked)
Chevrolet RD 47mm ATG
Chevrolet M37 Armoured car
Renault AHN
Citroen Type 23 Radio
P107 Pionierwagen
P107 Artillery Tractor (reworked)
Chevrolet RD 4x2+


Guys please correct me, if I am wrong in something


I have not included in the list
planes pack
pontons pack

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/9/2016 8:24:28 PM   
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You`ve made several mistakes on that list. From mentioning units that have actually been included (Finnish Armoured train, soviet 76.2mm M1938 gun) to mentioning units that have never been released (German Mountain Infantry, AT-1, Italian Motorcyclists, SdKfz 2 etc.) to not mentioning units that have been left out (like the Finnish units mentioned in post #562 for which I`ve asked for regular cards and none were provided; I`ve sent Karaganov the assembled battle cards for this btw). In addition I had already said that most reworked units have not been included (you`ve missed the BEF btw) and that H.Balck has made more transports for the soviets and germans than the number of traits available in this game (I`ve asked for feedback on this above and none was given).

I`m not sure what the point of the list is actually, unless you`re gonna implement them yourself or expect someone else to do that. I wish you luck. The main reason I`ve put together this mod for my own use is that nobody else was doing it (and it`s been something like 4 years now).

EDIT: you`ve missed the French units. That Chevrolet something batch. I couldn`t find what they were so they were left out. Also I think there was a third Japanese transport in that lot with the Type 95.

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/10/2016 5:17:19 AM   
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R-35
thanks for the info
I understand that this list will be edited from time to time.

I fixed a couple of bugs (Finnish Armoured train and NNS Typ 95 Daruma)
Later I will try to make a list for new French and British units.

I think the limit for transport units this solvable problem

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/10/2016 5:54:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: R35

I`m not sure what the point of the list is actually, unless you`re gonna implement them yourself or expect someone else to do that. I wish you luck. The main reason I`ve put together this mod for my own use is that nobody else was doing it (and it`s been something like 4 years now).


I definitely can not add all of these new units for engine of R-35
But I hope that H.Balck and Karaganov will add most of the new Soviet and German units in new big scenarios.

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/10/2016 12:25:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Brazenman
Later I will try to make a list for new French and British units.

The problem with reworked units is that they are continuously reworked. You never know when you implement something when the next version will come along. For example I think I have implemented the Polish 7TP about 4 or 5 times and the T-26 about 3 times. If you multiply that by the hundreds of units redone you understand whey so many new units have not been done at all or are not implemented yet.

Apart from that, I`ve been looking at your proposed list of artillery from Karaganov`s thread when I chose what to implement for this release. H.Balck made some guns that were not on your list and which according to my quick research did not appear to have still been used by 1941. For example the non-upgraded versions of these two:
122 mm Howitzer M1910
152 mm Howitzer M1909
And there are a few more (like the T-27) that do not appear to have been in combat service anymore. Do you actually want these included in the game?

quote:

I think the limit for transport units this solvable problem

Please tell me how. I`ve been asking for proposals on this chapter for some time.

quote:

But I hope that H.Balck and Karaganov will add most of the new Soviet and German units in new big scenarios

Hope does not know death - a saying goes. I wish you good luck with it!

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/10/2016 4:30:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: R35

And there are a few more (like the T-27) that do not appear to have been in combat service anymore. Do you actually want these included in the game?



I think that the following units should be added

HKVD Infantry
In the combat actions 1941-1945 were involved 37 divisions of the NKVD and 16 brigades of NKVD

120-mm heavy mortar and 107-mm mountain mortar
Red Army had heavy mortar brigades and regiments (11 brigades and more handred separate regimets in early 1943)
composition of heavy mortar brigade
4 - heavy mortar regiments (38 120-mm mortars in each, all - 144 120-mm mortars in brigade)

T-27
T-27 took part in the fighting in 1941 (Crimea, Moscow, Leningrad).
More than 200 T-27 were at the Far Eastern Front in 1945. T-27 were used for reconnaissance, patrol and guard headquarters.

Also, I would replace the FAI to the FAI-M. FAI-M were significantly better represented in the armed forces in 1941

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/10/2016 5:05:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: R35

quote:

I think the limit for transport units this solvable problem

Please tell me how. I`ve been asking for proposals on this chapter for some time.




Mule (Soviet Mnt Transport)
SmallHorse (Soviet Horse Transport Light)
Horse (Soviet Horse Transport)
HorseWagon (Soviet Horse Transport Eng)
Jeep (GAZ-67, Willys-MB)
Truck (GAZ-AA, GAZ-MM)
LightTruck (Zis-5, Dodge WC51)
HeavyTruck (Zis-6, YaG-10)
HalftrackTruck (Zis-42M)
APC (M3 Halftrack)
SeepCar (Ford GPA Seep)
LightTractor (T-20 Komsomolyets, Pioneer)
Tractor (Tractor STZ-5, T-26 Tractor)
HighSpeedTractor (Stalinets S-2, Ya-12)
HeavyTractor (Tractor ChTZ-65, Kommunar, Kommintern)
SuperHeavyTractor (Voroshilovets)

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RE: New Units for PC - 4/10/2016 5:26:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brazenman
In the combat actions 1941-1945 were involved 37 divisions of the NKVD and 16 brigades of NKVD

How would these differ from the regular soviet infantry? Was the NKVD title anything more than just that (a title)?

quote:

120-mm heavy mortar and 107-mm mountain mortar
Red Army had heavy mortar brigades and regiments (11 brigades and more handred separate regimets in early 1943)
composition of heavy mortar brigade
4 - heavy mortar regiments (38 120-mm mortars in each, all - 144 120-mm mortars in brigade)

Yes, I understand that, but the reason I ignored the mortars for now is that:
1. mortar units were not considered as distinctive units by the PzC developers and just calculated into other units. Which means there are none present in game. In reality, many (most?) nations had heavy mortars in independent units. If we add them only for the Soviets (the Germans have only one unit so far) then it looks unbalanced. If H.Balck is serious about adding mortars to the game then it would require he makes them for all factions that had them (as independent units at the brigade/division etc. level).
2. we don`t actually have an animation and sound for such a unit and putting one together would require a bit of fiddling so that they match well. Not that this is a reason not to do it over the long term.


quote:

T-27
T-27 took part in the fighting in 1941 (Crimea, Moscow, Leningrad).
More than 200 T-27 were at the Far Eastern Front in 1945. T-27 were used for reconnaissance, patrol and guard headquarters.

Wikipedia says this about them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-27
quote:

By the end of the 1930s the T-27 was relegated primarily to training use, with some being used as tractors to tow field guns.

The tanks-encyclopedia says this:
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/soviet_T27.php
quote:

Their participation to the Polish invasion in September 1939 or the Winter War in Finland was real but of limited value. Some were reported posted in the Far East, along the disputed Mongolo-Chinese-Russian borders. But none were reported to have see any action at Nomonanh in August 1939. Action records in Poland are unknown.

quote:

Only 1127 T-27s were left at the start of 1941 and only in second line. Their main duty was training, carrying supplies and light artillery (like the standard 45 mm/1.77 in AT gun) and mortar tractors.

Which would mean that in game they basically should be in the transport class, not tank or recon. It`s why I didn`t add it.

quote:

Also, I would replace the FAI to the FAI-M. FAI-M were significantly better represented in the armed forces in 1941

Actually, now that you meantion it, the FAI-M makes sense. Reading again the article on tank-encyclopedia I see they were present in decent numbers. I`ll add it to the game.

quote:

Mule (Soviet Mnt Transport)
SmallHorse (Soviet Horse Transport Light)
Horse (Soviet Horse Transport)
HorseWagon (Soviet Horse Transport Eng)
Jeep (GAZ-67, Willys-MB)
Truck (GAZ-AA, GAZ-MM)
LightTruck (Zis-5, Dodge WC51)
HeavyTruck (Zis-6, YaG-10)
HalftrackTruck (Zis-42M)
APC (M3 Halftrack)
SeepCar (Ford GPA Seep)
LightTractor (T-20 Komsomolyets, Pioneer)
Tractor (Tractor STZ-5, T-26 Tractor)
HighSpeedTractor (Stalinets S-2, Ya-12)
HeavyTractor (Tractor ChTZ-65, Kommunar, Kommintern)
SuperHeavyTractor (Voroshilovets)

Thanks! That is what I was proposing above (using the same trait for more than one transport), but nobody bothered to give me any feedback on this until now. Of course, the downside is that the transports using the same trait will be available for the exact same units. Are you sure for example that Tractor ChTZ-65, Kommunar, Kommintern were all used to transport/tow the same units?

EDIT: there were several funny units made like those radio vehicles. PzC has no mechanism for such units that I can think of so what are they good for?

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