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All things Football (soccer) related - 5/3/2016 6:55:39 PM   
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Feeling deflated this morning. Its not the losing of the title to Leicester (that was conceded weeks ago - see above - and they deserve the title) it was allowing Chelsea to come back last night. Haven't won at Stamford Bridge since 1990 and looked like we were finally going to break that hoodoo but.....

And as for the indiscipline. Alli is already out for the last two games, Dembele will surely now follow, then Rose and Alderweireld injured and frankly Harry Kane has looked exhausted in the last two games. Keeping hold of 2nd is going to be a tough ask.

Still some work for Pochettino to do - there is a need to strengthen in attack and midfield. Chadli, Son, N'Jie are just too lightweight and Lamela still needs to improve.

Still if someone had offered 3rd place at the start of the season I guess I would have taken it.


Try being a Liverpool supporter...
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Well I'd swap Liverpool's trophy cabinet for Tottenham's any day of the week.

Not sure what is so bad about being a Liverpool fan right now. I think you have a great manager, you are in the semi-final of the Europa League, a big ground (set to become bigger) and they will no doubt make money available to Klopp this summer.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/3/2016 8:39:18 PM   
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RE: European Championships - 5/3/2016 9:07:18 PM   
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Feeling deflated this morning. Its not the losing of the title to Leicester (that was conceded weeks ago - see above - and they deserve the title) it was allowing Chelsea to come back last night. Haven't won at Stamford Bridge since 1990 and looked like we were finally going to break that hoodoo but.....

And as for the indiscipline. Alli is already out for the last two games, Dembele will surely now follow, then Rose and Alderweireld injured and frankly Harry Kane has looked exhausted in the last two games. Keeping hold of 2nd is going to be a tough ask.

Still some work for Pochettino to do - there is a need to strengthen in attack and midfield. Chadli, Son, N'Jie are just too lightweight and Lamela still needs to improve.

Still if someone had offered 3rd place at the start of the season I guess I would have taken it.


I think what the last couple of games has shown is Spurs need to strengthen the set of players who are on the fringes of the first team. You could see it last night when Mason came on (was watching in Amsterdam). When Spurs were sort of playing for 4th place max, most likely 5th or 6th then he was an asset, last night he just fumbled badly.

Still reckon Spurs will be second, think Man City will either be holding everything back for a CL final or utterly demoralised if Real dump them out. Equally would be surprised if Arsenal really manage to be consistent - but in any case as you say if 3rd had been on offer at the start of the season then it would have been a real success

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RE: European Championships - 5/4/2016 6:40:01 AM   
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He ends his reign as manager of Bayern Munich with no Champions League trophy - just a bunch of domestic trophies in a league dominated by one team - Bayern Munich.

He'll be looking to restore his reputation somewhat at Manchester City next season....

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RE: European Championships - 5/4/2016 6:53:54 AM   
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Feeling deflated this morning. Its not the losing of the title to Leicester (that was conceded weeks ago - see above - and they deserve the title) it was allowing Chelsea to come back last night. Haven't won at Stamford Bridge since 1990 and looked like we were finally going to break that hoodoo but.....

And as for the indiscipline. Alli is already out for the last two games, Dembele will surely now follow, then Rose and Alderweireld injured and frankly Harry Kane has looked exhausted in the last two games. Keeping hold of 2nd is going to be a tough ask.

Still some work for Pochettino to do - there is a need to strengthen in attack and midfield. Chadli, Son, N'Jie are just too lightweight and Lamela still needs to improve.

Still if someone had offered 3rd place at the start of the season I guess I would have taken it.


Still reckon Spurs will be second, think Man City will either be holding everything back for a CL final or utterly demoralised if Real dump them out. Equally would be surprised if Arsenal really manage to be consistent - but in any case as you say if 3rd had been on offer at the start of the season then it would have been a real success
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Obviously hope you are right but I am afraid Gary Lineker was, if not wrong about his summary of football, then only partially correct. He should have said "Football is a game played over 90 minutes and at the end the Germans win, and Arsenal finish above Spurs".

If Spurs finish the season with more than 1 point from the last two games (Southampton on great form and Newcastle fighting for survival) I will be amazed. No Alli, Dembele, possibly no Rose, no Alderwerield (plus any bans for a build up of yellows?) together with the mental disappointment of Monday = meltdown.

I hate football - did I ever mention that?


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RE: European Championships - 5/4/2016 7:17:21 AM   
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Great to see my Scottish team - Rangers - back where they belong




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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/4/2016 9:32:39 AM   
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1. Well I'd swap Liverpool's trophy cabinet for Tottenham's any day of the week.

2. Not sure what is so bad about being a Liverpool fan right now. I think you have a great manager, you are in the semi-final of the Europa League, a big ground (set to become bigger)

3. and they will no doubt make money available to Klopp this summer.



1. True, a great team in the 80s...For the past years there has been too many almosts.

2. Good manager, I agree. As to europe, it is the "european almost league"

3. Yeah, and Liverpool has proven how good they are at spending thei rmoney well over the last years

I fear that the main issue faced by Liverpool is that they are now an "almost there"-club, and the city of Liverpool is not the most exciting place for footballers of today. So I fear it might be difficult to attract the best players, and I fear in the end that we will be an almost-team for another decade. Whereas when I look at Tottenham I feel they improve every season, espesially compared to the other teams in the top. I think Spurs will place above us next year as well...

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RE: European Championships - 5/4/2016 9:40:12 AM   
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On a more positive note:

Great to see my Scottish team - Rangers - back where they belong

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got to, respectfully, disagree with you on this one. Its been really nice the last 4 years being spared the idiocies of the 'Old Firm' games. Not just the general disruption to the city or the sectarian nastiness that goes with it, but also that every time they play there is a (very large) spike in domestic abuse. Just to remind us all, this re-occured a few weeks back after the cup semi final between the two.

Now Clyde vs Partick Thistle is a joy for all

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/4/2016 5:34:42 PM   
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1. Well I'd swap Liverpool's trophy cabinet for Tottenham's any day of the week.

2. Not sure what is so bad about being a Liverpool fan right now. I think you have a great manager, you are in the semi-final of the Europa League, a big ground (set to become bigger)

3. and they will no doubt make money available to Klopp this summer.



1. True, a great team in the 80s...For the past years there has been too many almosts.

2. Good manager, I agree. As to europe, it is the "european almost league"

3. Yeah, and Liverpool has proven how good they are at spending thei rmoney well over the last years

I fear that the main issue faced by Liverpool is that they are now an "almost there"-club, and the city of Liverpool is not the most exciting place for footballers of today. So I fear it might be difficult to attract the best players, and I fear in the end that we will be an almost-team for another decade. Whereas when I look at Tottenham I feel they improve every season, espesially compared to the other teams in the top. I think Spurs will place above us next year as well...
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Again, lets hope you are right, but in order for Spurs to improve (and certainly to finish above Liverpool) they will need some big investment in a few key areas mentioned above.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/12/2016 6:38:02 PM   
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Another quiet week in the Premiership....or not the Premiership for the Magpies. Gotta feel sorry for the fans. Great ground, great history, sorry excuse for a management team....

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/12/2016 9:13:23 PM   
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I won't be heart-broken if Portsmouth make it but.......

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/12/2016 9:21:39 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/15/2016 6:06:22 PM   
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..., Poch signs a new contract and Newcastle United are relegated

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I've been following Spurs for over 40 years (a form of suffering inherited from my father) and I really thought I had seen it all (mostly involving spectacular ways to foul up) ... but today takes that to a new level. My only source of relief is knowing that the southside of Glasgow has very few Arsenal fans and I had a wonderful day out rock climbing.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/15/2016 8:12:03 PM   
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..., Poch signs a new contract and Newcastle United are relegated

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I've been following Spurs for over 40 years (a form of suffering inherited from my father) and I really thought I had seen it all (mostly involving spectacular ways to foul up) ... but today takes that to a new level. My only source of relief is knowing that the southside of Glasgow has very few Arsenal fans and I had a wonderful day out rock climbing.

sigh



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Well I've been following Spurs for over 40 years and today was as predictable as it was boring (I said this would happen weeks ago in the WITP-AE forum (except I suggested Newcastle would remain in the Premiership as a result).

Supporting Spurs is a hideous way to live life. No one should have to put up with that sort of torture in this day and age. Its a cruel and barbaric way to spend one's existence. No need for it whatsoever.

Please give generously to "Stop Putting Up (with) Rubbish Soccer" or Text SPURS and donate today. Together we can end this nonsense.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/15/2016 11:06:43 PM   
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Quite positive the fact that you'll be playing the Champions league.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 7:37:48 AM   
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I understand the frustration that the last match caused on the fans and the fact that the gunners finished in front, but honestly in overall, I think it was a quite good season for the Spurs.
Quite positive the fact that you'll be playing the Champions league.

warspite1

As said previously I would have taken 3rd at the start of the season - at least there is no tricky Champions League qualification round to navigate. But given the points advantage with just a few games to go, finishing behind Arsenal is a sickener.

I just hope that Poch realises that there is still a re-building job to be done. Chadli please go....


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 7:54:53 AM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 8:09:45 AM   
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As an Arsenal Fan I have to be careful what I say I won't mention St. Totteringham's It was a very very odd season. Amazing that Leicester won but strangely Arsenal finishing 2nd for the first time since 2004 feels a real disappointment.
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Not sure why you have to be careful what you say?? Arsenal (when compared to Spurs) have a better, more experienced squad, more money, a bigger ground, and a manager who knows how to win trophies. They finished second because they deserved to.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 8:39:28 AM   
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Don't get me wrong I'm not one of these Wenger out types (although I am frustrated) though...look at Man U and be careful what you wish for/happens when you change a big long standing manager...

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 8:39:51 AM   
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I am a portuguese supporter of Sporting Clube de Portugal and the end of our league was particularly painful...
We spent most weeks on first place. We played very fine. We scored 86 points in 34 games (top score in all our history, even more than all the times we were champions). We only lost 2 games...but one was at home with our life-time rivals (Benfica, 0-1; but we had won 3-0 on their home...) and we again at the end lost the chamiponship to...Benfica, by 2 points...

As we are used to say, maybe next year...

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 8:49:03 AM   
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Talk about frustration...
I am a portuguese supporter of Sporting Clube de Portugal and the end of our league was particularly painful...
We spent most weeks on first place. We played very fine. We scored 86 points in 34 games (top score in all our history, even more than all the times we were champions). We only lost 2 games...but one was at home with our life-time rivals (Benfica, 0-1; but we had won 3-0 on their home...) and we again at the end lost the chamiponship to...Benfica, by 2 points...

As we are used to say, maybe next year...
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So are you Sporting Lisbon or Sporting Clube de Portugal? I'm confused!

To Speedy

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Agreed - this is Arsenal's big problem. Just who do you replace Wenger with if you decide his time is up? Look at the rubbish Spurs have employed over the years....

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 10:07:13 AM   
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Talk about frustration...
I am a portuguese supporter of Sporting Clube de Portugal and the end of our league was particularly painful...
We spent most weeks on first place. We played very fine. We scored 86 points in 34 games (top score in all our history, even more than all the times we were champions). We only lost 2 games...but one was at home with our life-time rivals (Benfica, 0-1; but we had won 3-0 on their home...) and we again at the end lost the chamiponship to...Benfica, by 2 points...

As we are used to say, maybe next year...
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So are you Sporting Lisbon or Sporting Clube de Portugal? I'm confused!



We are indeed "Sporting Club de Portugal". We are a national team :)

Our rivals, on the other hand are "Sport Lisboa e Benfica" Benfica is a mere Lisbon area..;)


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 10:08:29 AM   
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So are you Sporting Lisbon or Sporting Clube de Portugal? I'm confused!

There's no Sporting Lisbon,as far as I know. Franciscus is Sporting Clube de Portugal (Sporting for shorter).
It's Benfica which is Sport Lisboa e Benfica or also know as the Glorious :P (Franciscus will now be mad at me).
I'm a supporter for Clube Futebol os Belenenses (Belenenses for shorter), a kind of Tottenham of the Portuguese league :( (I feel your pain warspite)



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Agreed - this is Arsenal's big problem. Just who do you replace Wenger with if you decide his time is up? Look at the rubbish Spurs have employed over the years....

At least they will have an opportunity to change otherwise they know they will finish in second, third or fourth.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 4:55:45 PM   
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So are you Sporting Lisbon or Sporting Clube de Portugal? I'm confused!

There's no Sporting Lisbon,as far as I know. Franciscus is Sporting Clube de Portugal (Sporting for shorter).
It's Benfica which is Sport Lisboa e Benfica or also know as the Glorious :P (Franciscus will now be mad at me).
I'm a supporter for Clube Futebol os Belenenses (Belenenses for shorter), a kind of Tottenham of the Portuguese league :( (I feel your pain warspite)

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Okay - the guys with the green and white hoops - they are always known as Sporting Lisbon by the media over here, hence my confusion.

I wonder why that is? - but thanks for the clarification


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 5:12:48 PM   
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3590736/Arsenal-poised-Premier-League-rankings-prize-money-despite-underwhelming-season.html

I see in the article that Tottenham will get a huge fortune as well. That is some serious cash flowing into English top football.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 5:16:23 PM   
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So are you Sporting Lisbon or Sporting Clube de Portugal? I'm confused!

There's no Sporting Lisbon,as far as I know. Franciscus is Sporting Clube de Portugal (Sporting for shorter).
It's Benfica which is Sport Lisboa e Benfica or also know as the Glorious :P (Franciscus will now be mad at me).
I'm a supporter for Clube Futebol os Belenenses (Belenenses for shorter), a kind of Tottenham of the Portuguese league :( (I feel your pain warspite)

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Okay - the guys with the green and white hoops - they are always known as Sporting Lisbon by the media over here, hence my confusion.

I wonder why that is? - but thanks for the clarification


My guess is that it is because some UEFA rule. I know that my team, although internationally unknown, must add their home town to the club name whenever they play UEFA football.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 5:30:39 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/16/2016 5:49:33 PM   
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Surprised that Marcus Rashford is in the team? Do you think he will remain after the cut?
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I guess all of this is subject to injury - but let's assume there are no injuries ahead of the cut to 23 - so three must go (in bold)....

Goalkeepers:
Joe Hart (Manchester City), Fraser Forster (Southampton), Tom Heaton (Burnley)

Obviously all three make it

Defenders:
Ryan Bertrand (Southampton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Nathaniel Clyne (Liverpool), Danny Rose (Tottenham), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), John Stones (Everton), Kyle Walker (Tottenham)

There are only seven - two left backs, two right backs and three central defenders (but Dier can move into the back four if needed) and so I think all seven will make it.

Midfielders:
Dele Alli (Tottenham), Ross Barkley (Everton), Fabian Delph (Manchester City), Eric Dier (Tottenham), Danny Drinkwater (Leicester), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Liverpool), James Milner (Liverpool), Raheem Sterling (Manchester City), Andros Townsend (Newcastle), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal)

Two to go here and this is more difficult. Personally I would drop Townsend as he is too inconsistent. I think the other one to go will be Delph (most likely - but a Hodgson favourite) or Drinkwater, but again I would not bet on it being Wilshire because he gets injured.

Forwards:
Harry Kane (Tottenham), Marcus Rashford (Manchester United), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Jamie Vardy (Leicester)

Typically you need four - at the most five. I think Rashford will miss out but I would not bet against Sturridge getting injured which lets him in.

Who would I leave behind? Sturridge (injury-prone), Sterling (massively over-rated) and Wilshere (injury-prone).

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 5/21/2016 5:34:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: loki100

So, its only taken them 116 years but Hibs have finally managed to win the Scottish Cup Final
warspite1

I remember reading that a few years ago. Shocking stat. How can one of the two big Edinburgh clubs never have won the cup?

And when it did, why the hell did it have to be against Rangers

This is turning into a really rubbish end of season.....

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