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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/13/2016 9:40:26 AM   
el lobo


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Status: offline 		ADAK Oct 2, 1942 Turn 300

We finally got a hit on Adak. Three Divisions are loading.




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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/13/2016 12:57:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: el lobo

One definition of magic is "a mysterious quality."

There is some 'hocus pocus' involved, ... or as Gary would say: some randomness! ;)


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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/13/2016 8:18:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: el lobo
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ORIGINAL: GetAssista
block res transfer through Malaya rails,

GA, what to you mean by this?

I've got the impression that setting stuff to stockpile on all the bases in the neck of Malaya peninsula blocks the flow of resources/oil/fuel into Singers from Thai/Burma. Stuff from the latter will then travel to China, exactly where it is needed

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/14/2016 9:07:01 AM   
el lobo


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ADAK - OMINATO Oct 3-4, 1942 Turns 301-302

I had moved the KB to Oninato (where the transports are loading) and it was at this time Rio decided to make one of his Sub Raids. I thought I would try something new (for me) so with the KB still in the harbor, I set it to 'zero' react and set all of its DB and TB to ASW.

There was lot of reported hits on subs. The KB did react which I did not like.

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Sub attack near Hachinohe at 119,57

Japanese Ships
CV Junyo
BB Yamashiro
BB Mutsu
DD Makigumo
DD Urakaze
DD Natsushio
DD Naganami

Allied Ships
SS S-37

SS S-37 launches 4 torpedoes at CV Junyo
S-37 diving deep ....

When I sent the turn, I told Rio that I was going to try something different against his subs so I am hopping he thinks the Junyo was there for that.

He did tell me that one sub was confirmed sunk. Tracker shows that it was hit by a 250kg bomb. There is a lot of LBA in that area so who knows who hit it.







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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/15/2016 1:19:14 PM   
el lobo


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Status: offline 		BATHURST ISLAND Oct 4, 1942 Turn 303

My sitting at Bathurst Island has been a thorn in Rio's side for a long time. This is his second attempt to bomb the troops. No Japanese casualties on the ground.

I have been re-reading some of the threads on CAP and Sweep settings and I have a FP unit on the way there. It is going to be fun experimenting there.

I don't know how long I have before he takes it but I think I will move my fast reaction Rgt to Koepang. May be some more fun.

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Morning Air attack on 21st Fld AA Gun Co , at 76,123 (Bathurst Island)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4

Allied aircraft
DB-7B x 3
Beaufort V x 4
Hudson I x 9
Hudson III (LR) x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
DB-7B: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Hudson III (LR): 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
Hudson III (LR): 1 destroyed by flak

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Morning Air attack on 21st Fld AA Gun Co , at 76,123 (Bathurst Island)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 2

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/16/2016 8:56:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		PRODUCTION Oct 6, 1942 Turn 304

Gary strikes again, but in a good way. Fusan took a big gulp of 50k oil and PA still has 228k.


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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/16/2016 12:59:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: el lobo

PRODUCTION Oct 6, 1942 Turn 304

Gary strikes again, but in a good way. Fusan took a big gulp of 50k oil and PA still has 228k.


Ahhh, very good news ...

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/17/2016 8:55:56 AM   
el lobo


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Ahhh, very good news ...

You must have a bit o' the magic touch yourself.

I did as you suggested and sent five TKs to PA, keeping their home port at Fusan, and before the fifth was loaded, 'Bob's your Uncle.'

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/17/2016 2:18:06 PM   
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'Bob's your Uncle.'

My Uncle Bob is a cool guy, ex-Ranger AND drove Indy one year ....

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/24/2016 2:21:38 PM   
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ADAK Oct 15, 1942 Turn 313

We pull the trigger tomorrow. This kind of stuff makes me nervous, so much to go wrong.





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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/24/2016 2:27:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Get a sub on patrol in the harbor ... will help convert some MIA's to WIA's ... not many, but every one helps...

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/25/2016 5:47:48 AM   
el lobo


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Get a sub on patrol in the harbor ... will help convert some MIA's to WIA's ... not many, but every one helps...

Thanks for the quick response. Snuck it in just in time.

ADAK Oct 16, 1942 Turn 314

Overall I think the first part went well. I had set an attack on the base at Attu Island by three groups but they failed to fly because of weather.

I set the Bombardment according to Lowpe and my air groups generally set according to koniu. The Kates were using bombs and were too high to do much damage but that is OK.

What I am real happy about is that not a single ship has been hit for far.

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Night Naval bombardment of Adak Island at 162,52

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei

Allied Ships
AS Canopus, Shell hits 1

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 11
Port hits 2

E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BB Kirishima
BB Kirishima firing at 141st USA Base Force
BB Hiei firing at Adak Island

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Morning Air attack on Adak Island , at 162,52

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 117 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 43 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 55
B5N2 Kate x 55
D3A1 Val x 68

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 9 damaged
D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed by flak

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Port supply hits 1

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Pre-Invasion action off Adak Island (162,52)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

173 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
CA Chokai
DD Teruzuki
xAK Sinko Maru
xAK Kaiko Maru
DD Yukikaze
DD Yuzuki

Japanese ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

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Ground combat at Adak Island (162,52)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2818 troops, 42 guns, 43 vehicles, Assault Value = 187

Defending force 3608 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 67

Assaulting units:
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
1/151st Combat Engineer Battalion
42nd Construction Regiment
13th USN Naval Construction Battalion
141st USA Base Force
331st Construction Regiment
503rd Coast AA Regiment
175th USAAF Base Force
21st USN Naval Construction Battalion

Defending units:
26th Div /3





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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/26/2016 11:23:57 AM   
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The Bombardment TF was on its way back to the HI and was passing-by Attu Island so I set it to bombard again and got a pleasant surprise.

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Night Naval bombardment of Attu Island at 153,49

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5 Catalina: 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei

Allied Ships
SS S-47, hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS S-44, hits 1, on fire
SS S-42, hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 11
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Lost my first ship. No troops lost.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Adak Island at 162,52

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
PBY-5 Catalina x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Seian Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage .. Sunk
xAK Amagi Maru
xAK Momokawa Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PBY-5 Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo

About half unloaded.

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Ground combat at Adak Island (162,52)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2818 troops, 42 guns, 43 vehicles, Assault Value = 187

Defending force 8597 troops, 38 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 217

Assaulting units:
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
1/151st Combat Engineer Battalion
503rd Coast AA Regiment
141st USA Base Force
331st Construction Regiment
13th USN Naval Construction Battalion
175th USAAF Base Force
42nd Construction Regiment
21st USN Naval Construction Battalion

Defending units:
26th Division

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/27/2016 9:05:33 AM   
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Still unloading Wave One. I am constantly having to shuttle subs back and forth to refresh the FPs. I keep losing them to flak and opps.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/27/2016 9:18:01 AM   
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The quote below was taken from "The War Room" from a thread named "China" started by Revthought.

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ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

For the allies, its pretty simple. Retreat into 3x terrain, defense in depth. Your goal is to tie up IJ assets until your liberate Burma and open the Burma road. Kunming and Chungking are your two key bases. This means you will likely need to hold until mid-43. that's a long time.

Losing control of china to the IJ is pretty bad as it relieves a LARGE number of units for other assignments. Conceivably, the IJ could take India or SOV particularly if the player is ignoring VP's (don't garrison). Knocking SOV out along with CHI alleviates a LOT of pressure on IJ in the end game. Taking India, or most of it, is a HUGE economic boost that will also create a huge difficulty for the allied player (IJ will be able to build and support +25,000 AC in '45).

This theatre is well balanced. Plenty of AAR's where allies lose or hold china.

Good Luck.


I am quoting it for two reasons. First, the latter part expertly sums-up my thoughts on China in regards to freeing-up a large number of units, in my case for using them in Burma and India.

Secondly, the first part sums-up what Rio was doing successfully west of Sian, north-east of Keinko, hex 80,40.

Time will tell, but I think Rio just made a significant tactical error.

The inset in the map below shows the positions at that hex that we have held for months. Rio had a little less than 3k AV to my little less than 5k AV. He was well dug-in in this 3X Terrain. The best I could do was bomb and bombard him ever four or five days as supply permitted, and these would result in fifteen or so squads destroyed. At that rate he could have held for a long time particularly if he brought in a few more units.

Another advantage of that hex for the Allies is that there is no easy way around it. To flank or bring in units from elsewhere would take weeks, probably months.

I was working on several plans to do just that when about three (game) weeks ago I noticed a movement arrow for his units pointing to the west. I decided to take a gamble and wait a month to see what happened. The arrow persisted for more than two weeks then disappeared when one of the units from that hex attacked the hex to the N-E. Rats, back to plan A.

Then this turn, the units are gone, that is, they moved into the hex to the west. As I see it, I now have 5K AV freed-up. Now to decide how best to use them. The first thing I will do is move into Keinko and take it.





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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/27/2016 12:42:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		What I see on the allies part is a lack of defense in depth ... a single line in 3x terrain along the southern edge of the chungking valley ... the problem with a single line is that this game was written by Gary Meaning, a single bad roll and you can lose a hex no matter what. Not often, but it happens. In the allies case, it means a breakthrough into 1x terrain which they then cannot stop you. That is why they meed defense in depth. 2 layers in 3x is a big difference, then even with that rare\, random event, they fall back into a 2nd defended position in 3x ...no breakthrough.


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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/30/2016 4:49:31 AM   
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What I see on the allies part is a lack of defense in depth ... a single line in 3x terrain along the southern edge of the chungking valley ... the problem with a single line is that this game was written by Gary Meaning, a single bad roll and you can lose a hex no matter what. Not often, but it happens. In the allies case, it means a breakthrough into 1x terrain which they then cannot stop you. That is why they meed defense in depth. 2 layers in 3x is a big difference, then even with that rare\, random event, they fall back into a 2nd defended position in 3x ...no breakthrough.

Pax, you are right, see below.

More importantly, what you are saying will be valuable to me later.

ADAK Oct 21, 1942 Turn 319

Unloading Wave Two.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/30/2016 4:51:24 AM   
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One unit left from the attack below. Will be moved-out in a couple of days.

I'm wondering what to do with my attacking units. Should I move some or all into Chungking? According to Alfred's Rule of Thumb, there should be about 3400 AV there.

I am moving more bomber units into the area. I have not been doing any intensive bombing of Chungking but will start tomorrow.

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Ground combat at 76,46 (near Chungking)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 151312 troops, 1443 guns, 347 vehicles, Assault Value = 5131

Defending force 40412 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1031

Japanese adjusted assault: 2898

Allied adjusted defense: 550

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
8210 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 574 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 69 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 35 disabled

Allied ground losses:
9341 casualties reported
Squads: 806 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 735 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 7 (6 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 18





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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 5/30/2016 9:26:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Before I take on Chungking, I generally will make sure the escape to Kunming is blocked ... I do not want to have to take on +3000 AV a 2nd time in 3x terrain. I also generally secure the rest of the valley first, then I can encircle Chungking as I wish with single units without having to worry about any breakthrough/relief attempt.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/5/2016 10:11:55 AM   
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ADAK Oct 25, 1942 Turn 323

Unloaded Wave Three.

I had set a BB TF up to bombard Adak next turn and it was in the right place at the right time.
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Sagigik Island at 165,53, Range 5,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Shell hits 2
DD Yuzuki
DD Kosugiri
DD Myojinami

Allied Ships
DD Allen, Shell hits 2, and is sunk




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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/5/2016 10:15:08 AM   
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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/7/2016 1:02:07 PM   
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Looks like things are about to heat-up.




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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/9/2016 8:17:12 AM   
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I think the first DA at Kienko went well.

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Ground combat at Kienko (78,41)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 139345 troops, 1890 guns, 1626 vehicles, Assault Value = 4263

Defending force 45198 troops, 206 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1249

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 2402

Allied adjusted defense: 839

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3690 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 230 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 80 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3625 casualties reported
Squads: 122 destroyed, 245 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 57 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 22 (6 destroyed, 16 disabled)




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El Lobo (J) vs Rio Bravo (A)
Rio Bravo's AAR - "The War College"
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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/9/2016 8:24:06 AM   
el lobo


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Should I be concerned about Fuel here?




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El Lobo (J) vs Rio Bravo (A)
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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/9/2016 5:50:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: el lobo

Oct 29, 1942 Turn 327

Should I be concerned about Fuel here? [/size]





Yes. At this stage of the war your fuel stocks should be growing, not shrinking. Almost a month with no large tanker TF arriving in the Home Islands is worrisome to me. You're always going to see a constant drain, but you should see net growth of the fuel stockpile, if you have large enough fuel TF's arriving on a regular basis.

Then again, it looks like you are concentrating on getting oil to the Home Islands which explains your fuel dropping. Perhaps a little more balance in what you ship if you're concerned about your fuel. There was a discussion years ago about whether fuel or oil should be shipped. I don't recall what the consensus was. It's probably in Mike Solli's AAR somewhere.




< Message edited by SqzMyLemon -- 6/9/2016 5:57:18 PM >

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/9/2016 11:02:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oil looks about right, slow trend up.
Fuel is NOT good, also should be trending up.

Likely you are shipping fuel from Japan. Should NEVER do that after you own the DEI. Ship fuel from DEI to wherever you need it as in most cases that is shorter (uses less fuel) than shipping to Japan then to final dest.

Establish the habit now of not letting fuel pile up in the DEI ... get it moved out right away. Once the momentum swings, you won't have time or focus to fix that issue and you can lose +1M fuel easy ... and painfully ...


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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/10/2016 3:00:34 AM   
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Rio Bravo's AAR - "The War College"
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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/10/2016 11:19:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Resources look good.
Supply also looks good and growing nicely. This is the one to watch the most from now until mid-44.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/11/2016 12:10:32 PM   
el lobo


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Status: offline 		CHINA Oct 31, 1942 Turn 329

The results at Kienko frankly surprised me.

I will divide these units and send some to Chengtu, leave some, and send the rest to Chungking. The bulk of the artillery will go to Chungking.

I have some Aviation Support that I have been lugging around for three months included in this group so as soon as supply comes up a little I will move air in.
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Ground combat at Kienko (78,41)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 137024 troops, 1890 guns, 1626 vehicles, Assault Value = 4042

Defending force 42328 troops, 199 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1063

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 2198

Allied adjusted defense: 621

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kienko !!!

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Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4644 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 263 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 50 disabled
Guns lost 33 (5 destroyed, 28 disabled)
Vehicles lost 24 (3 destroyed, 21 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
13566 casualties reported
Squads: 514 destroyed, 75 disabled
Non Combat: 802 destroyed, 57 disabled
Engineers: 93 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 26 (22 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units retreated 13

My flanking-blocking units did well also.
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Ground combat at 75,46 (near Chungking)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30856 troops, 328 guns, 560 vehicles, Assault Value = 1246

Defending force 11739 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 304

Japanese adjusted assault: 744

Allied adjusted defense: 169

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
639 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
4196 casualties reported
Squads: 131 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 73 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 5




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El Lobo (J) vs Rio Bravo (A)
Rio Bravo's AAR - "The War College"
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3851786

Gamey is not a game style. It is someone's definition.

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RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo as the Red 1s and... - 6/11/2016 12:13:59 PM   
el lobo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Resources look good.
Supply also looks good and growing nicely. This is the one to watch the most from now until mid-44.

Thanks Pax.

PRODUCTION Nov, 1, 1942 Turn 330

Here is what accelerated in Oct '42

Tojo IIc 5/43
Tony 100-I 12/44
Oscar -4-IIIa 3/44
Oscar -43-IV 10/44
Ki-49-IIb Helen 7/43
D4Y1 Judy 11/42

Ha-45 1/43

The D4Y1 Judy went into production Nov 1st.

The Ha-35 has been holding steady between 502 and 512 units in the pool daily.
The Ha-33 hit 503 units in the pool this day.





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