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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/22/2016 4:31:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just remember that some of those "Coastal gun shots" are from non-CD guns firing at the abstracted landing craft.

Also, I saw something in my other game where more hits were reported on ships than shots were fired. I found that odd. If I can remember when/where it happened I'll try to track it down.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/22/2016 5:12:35 PM   
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Just remember that some of those "Coastal gun shots" are from non-CD guns firing at the abstracted landing craft.

Also, I saw something in my other game where more hits were reported on ships than shots were fired. I found that odd. If I can remember when/where it happened I'll try to track it down.

I've seen the same kind of over-reporting of hits too. IIRC I once had flak damage more aircraft than were in a raid. I put it all down to FOW - different positions reporting the same incident and Intel boys adding all the reports up.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/22/2016 5:33:55 PM   
JocMeister

 

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No turn or update tonight. Sorry guys.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/22/2016 5:37:21 PM   
Lokasenna


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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Just remember that some of those "Coastal gun shots" are from non-CD guns firing at the abstracted landing craft.

Also, I saw something in my other game where more hits were reported on ships than shots were fired. I found that odd. If I can remember when/where it happened I'll try to track it down.

I've seen the same kind of over-reporting of hits too. IIRC I once had flak damage more aircraft than were in a raid. I put it all down to FOW - different positions reporting the same incident and Intel boys adding all the reports up.


Aircraft damage reports are different. Each time a plane is damaged, it's reported. Flak gets to fire twice at aircraft - once before they drop, and once after.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/22/2016 6:04:14 PM   
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Well, they fired over 900 times. There definitely aren't 900 guns.


You're right. I looked back and each CR says "shots." Still a whole lot of guns.

For anyone contemplating landing at Truk, this is from one turn. Nineteen rounds of CD fire. As I said to Loka, them's SOME ops points:

-edit for brevity-



Hmm, I'm actually kinda disappointed in that result.

Considering that Truk has the same number of naval guns as a bunch of cruisers and destroyers, I'd have hoped to have seen CD fire damage the smaller amphibious ships rather that pour shell after shell into the BB's.

Still, I take it that the CD guns performed their function in that the CD unit ate all the disruption and the ships off-shore are out of rounds?

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/22/2016 8:30:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Well, they fired over 900 times. There definitely aren't 900 guns.


You're right. I looked back and each CR says "shots." Still a whole lot of guns.

For anyone contemplating landing at Truk, this is from one turn. Nineteen rounds of CD fire. As I said to Loka, them's SOME ops points:

-edit for brevity-



Hmm, I'm actually kinda disappointed in that result.

Considering that Truk has the same number of naval guns as a bunch of cruisers and destroyers, I'd have hoped to have seen CD fire damage the smaller amphibious ships rather that pour shell after shell into the BB's.

Still, I take it that the CD guns performed their function in that the CD unit ate all the disruption and the ships off-shore are out of rounds?



Umm . . . no.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/23/2016 2:25:26 PM   
JocMeister

 

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Status: offline 		Told Jeff I needed the turn during the day today if I were to finish it before I leave for the midsummer celebration.

Didnt get it so I told Jeff to hang on to it until Saturday. Now I´m off to drink snaps and beer and eat sill and potato.

Happy midsummer fellas!

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/23/2016 2:42:03 PM   
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Told Jeff I needed the turn during the day today if I were to finish it before I leave for the midsummer celebration.

Didnt get it so I told Jeff to hang on to it until Saturday. Now I´m off to drink snaps and beer and eat sill and potato.

Happy midsummer fellas!


What a coincidence. I have the same agenda.

Oh, and have a good midsummer celebration!

< Message edited by Grollub -- 6/23/2016 2:50:50 PM >

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/23/2016 3:52:48 PM   
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Told Jeff I needed the turn during the day today if I were to finish it before I leave for the midsummer celebration.

Didnt get it so I told Jeff to hang on to it until Saturday. Now I´m off to drink snaps and beer and eat sill and potato.

Happy midsummer fellas!
I hope your celebration won't be spoiled by the poor performance of the Swedish futbol team in France. They were, sorry to say, underwhelming.


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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/23/2016 6:28:31 PM   
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Told Jeff I needed the turn during the day today if I were to finish it before I leave for the midsummer celebration.

Didnt get it so I told Jeff to hang on to it until Saturday. Now I´m off to drink snaps and beer and eat sill and potato.

Happy midsummer fellas!


Over twenty years ago I was lucky enough to experience midsummer in Whitehorse, Yukon. I had never been that far north on that day. Kegs at many intersections downtown. At 0200 it was still light enough to read a book outside.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/24/2016 4:10:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thirty years ago to the day I ran into a bunch of Swedes on the island of Corfu on mid-summers eve. They made me an honorary Swede (well, I'm 1/8 Swedish anyway) and I had to do all the drinking stations along with the rest. At each station you had to do something like ten push-ups or sing a bawdy Swedish tune and then down a whole beer. Let's just say that was a pretty fun afternoon. Good thing I had the DNA to handle it.

Cheers,
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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/24/2016 4:21:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are pluses and minuses to living anywhere, including my home. But I just gotta say: if I lived close to the Arctic Circle, knowing that every day after June 21 is shorter and that the calendar is heading remorselessly to winter would drive me nuts.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/24/2016 4:28:12 AM   
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There are pluses and minuses to living anywhere, including my home. But I just gotta say: if I lived close to the Arctic Circle, knowing that every day after June 21 is shorter and that the calendar is heading remorselessly to winter would drive me nuts.


Thanks for reminding me.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/24/2016 4:40:31 AM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		Well, you can flip it around. In Georgia, every day after December 21 is longer and the calendar is heading remorselessly to hot, humid, hazy, bug-filled summer.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/24/2016 7:16:40 AM   
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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/24/2016 2:09:47 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		It is amazing how much the human brain is harmonized with the seasons. You can predict by looking at the sun when the daffodils are going to come up and the Monarchs come back and when the HOA will send you a warning letter about the trashcans.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/24/2016 9:38:19 PM   
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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/26/2016 6:05:18 AM   
JocMeister

 

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Status: offline 		Hi guys. Back from the celebrations but still no turn from Jeff.

Going to send him an email to see whats up.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/26/2016 2:27:06 PM   
JocMeister

 

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Another 28 Zeroes shot down. This time Akagi airgroups where confirmed among the victims! Tomorrow will hopefully be nasty for KBs airgroups. I need to chase KB away so I can lauch LBA naval strikes. With KB in the hex they simply refuse to fly. Not sure how many escorts the engine deems necessary for this but I had 50+ Kittens set to escort but still no strikes.

I´ll try to get a proper update up later but first I have to do the turn.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/27/2016 5:25:48 AM   
JocMeister

 

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The day starts with Japanese BBs and CAs bombarding LA. I thought this wouldn´t be much of a problem. I mean level 9 forts and a level 10 AF...wrong. Its closed with 60/62 damage.

This means no strikes flying tomorrow except some smaller ones. P47/P38 sweeps will go in over Santa Ana tomorrow.

Jeff is moving out from Santa Ana in 3 directions. Towards SD, LA and March field. This is excellent news. 2 more days and all the troops will be in place for the counter attack. I have yet to decide if I will wait for all of them to detrain before moving out or not.

A has chickenpox so the longer update I promised will have to wait. Typing this on the pad.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/27/2016 1:55:49 PM   
JocMeister

 

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Just broke my pinky toe.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/27/2016 2:23:55 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		As far as I can tell the only purpose of the 5th toe is to not scare people at the beach and to keep from breaking the 4th toe.

It still hurts like a demon.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/27/2016 2:29:02 PM   
JocMeister

 

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As far as I can tell the only purpose of the 5th toe is to not scare people at the beach and to keep from breaking the 4th toe.

It still hurts like a demon.




Yeah. It does hurt like a ....

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/27/2016 2:48:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Broken toes are awful - since you really can't do anything about it.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/27/2016 2:55:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe he can get some sympathy from his wife? Tender, tender sympathy? If so the toe might be worth it.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/27/2016 3:01:39 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/27/2016 3:05:35 PM   
JocMeister

 

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Maybe he can get some sympathy from his wife? Tender, tender sympathy? If so the toe might be worth it.


She just laughed at me and called me clumsy.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/27/2016 4:19:58 PM   
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Maybe he can get some sympathy from his wife? Tender, tender sympathy? If so the toe might be worth it.


She just laughed at me and called me clumsy.


If you push a pain argument with women eventually it gets around to labor, and we don't win that one.

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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/27/2016 4:55:58 PM   
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RE: Invasion West Coast! - 6/27/2016 5:02:37 PM   
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Yes, that toe hurts quite a bit - but at least you still have it. Pain is to let you know that you are still alive.

That's just some weakness leaving your body, Joc!

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