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Best Turn Length? - 4/14/2003 11:43:04 PM

mandt

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I've been playing UV for a only couple of weeks, and I have been playing single-day turns exclusively.

A lot happens each day, and so I'm not exactly sure how it works when you are playing "two- or three-day long" or "week long" turns

I'd welcome any comments regarding which turn lengths seem to be the best and how they affect play.

Thanks.

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- 4/14/2003 11:53:21 PM

Mr.Frag

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Playing with > 1 results in time compression of things.

Playing against the AI, single day turns are fine as you are there, playing non-stop.

Playing PBEM with single day turns means that you will be playing the single game for in excess of a year! Some folks would prefer to finish a game in their lifetime, so they speed it up with a higher day per turn count.

This has two effects, you have less control as your orders are followed longer without you having an ability to fix mistakes and second, the game progresses at a much faster rate.

To each their own, but until the game routines are optimized better for longer turns, I think 1 day turns are best. Handling of fatigue currently, and air mission especially does not work well, with aircraft flying beyond the point of safe fatigue, resulting in pointless operational losses.

The game's UI needs to be tuned with more options to support longer turns such as a second level of controls ie: Go bomb until fatigue > 50 then rest until fatigue < 10 or fly cap 80% every OTHER turn, or fly supplies to point x every 3rd turn...

Without this level of fine tuning of our current orders, turns longer then 1 day are pointless in my eyes.

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- 4/15/2003 12:32:35 AM

Feinder

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Everything that Mr. Frag said.

:^)

But yes, Knavey and I play 2-day turns. It's something you have to get used to.

You have to realize that whatever mission you select, that unit (whether it be air, land or sea), is gonna keep doing it for 2 days.

You have to plan a little closer and guessitmate where your TFs will start/end each day.

You have to be very wary of your squadron's fatigue levels, because planes will litterally fly themselves to death. If a squadron's fatigue is pushing over 35, ground them; because if you fly them for 2 more days, their fatigue will be around the mid 40s with a couple of stupidity losses.

Having said the cautions, we actually -like- 2 day turns. It kind of adds an element of chance, as if you really were an operational commander, as you only change your orders every other day. It means that a CV slated to arrive in 44 days, is really only 22 turns away. It also means that we're likely to actually finish our Scen 19, even tho we only get about 1 turn done each night.

One is good, but not practical for us, again considering that we only play 1 turn each night. 2 works well for us. 3 I think would be unmanagible, as you couldn't react to the observed movement of TFs, and fatigue levels for your squadrons would be very high.

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1 day turns - 4/15/2003 3:58:28 AM

mogami

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Hi, U2/Dan and I began a long game in July with 1 day turns. It should reach the end today. (10 months) But really for a PBEM game that is not so bad. The problem is finding someone who will go the distance. If you solve that the rest is not important.

(snail mail chess games often last more then 2 years)

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- 4/15/2003 4:54:45 AM

Fred98

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Yes, playing agauinst the AI, 1 day turns are best. There will be some turns where you hardly need to gave any orders.

Having said that "continous" is excellent in a game against the AI. Then you just stop the game from time to time to issue fresh orders. "Continous" is a great setting but hardly gets a mention.

But PBEM is a different matter. I my games we play 2 day turns. Any longer and you would really have no control.

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- 4/16/2003 12:14:43 AM

mandt

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Thanks fellas.

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