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RE: 53 final - 7/17/2016 4:16:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		He has 2 full split German mountain divisions.

Those north of Tiblisi could be minor mountain units. Watch out for those Rumanians. I was planning on putting up a weak picket line near Tiblisi. Like everything else it better hold.

I now have his next turn. Not yet opened.

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RE: 53 final - 7/19/2016 4:09:27 PM   
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Regarding the helping of BAKU, it is only if your south troops could continue the rail cutting, otherwise only cutting rail in the ROSTOV region could be in vain.

I just remember that if the rail doesn’t link up with the main Rail network, then each rail hex will count as 1 mp+, adding all alone the remaining rail hexes. In this case, if the Rail has been cut near Rostov, i.e. cut from the main Rail net work, then even if the port itself has 0 SP, each rail hex extending from the port will count as 1 MP+ for each Rail hex.
Is this remains so in 1.09? If so, then cutting the south Rail isn’t that important, as long as the Rail being cut south of Rostov, the Rail line will stop to serve as rail head, no matter of whether it links with a port or not.

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RE: 53 final - 7/22/2016 2:18:03 PM   
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I just remember that if the rail doesn’t link up with the main Rail network, then each rail hex will count as 1 mp+, adding all alone the remaining rail hexes. In this case, if the Rail has been cut near Rostov, i.e. cut from the main Rail net work, then even if the port itself has 0 SP, each rail hex extending from the port will count as 1 MP+ for each Rail hex. Is this remains so in 1.09? If so, then cutting the south Rail isn’t that important, as long as the Rail being cut south of Rostov, the Rail line will stop to serve as rail head, no matter of whether it links with a port or not.


It may be an either/or situation.

atm, the Rostov rail goes west to Krasnodor then east thru the swamps which is where my south cut off is ongoing.
This distance will still mean over 45 mp down to Grozny and beyond in clear.

If he gets the more Eastern line up and running south from Rostov, then I will be in deep doo and need to cut off the Rostov line.
This should happen next turn, not as of this latest turn which is still being worked on.



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RE: 53 final - 7/23/2016 2:14:10 PM   
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I just remember that if the rail doesn’t link up with the main Rail network, then each rail hex will count as 1 mp+, adding all alone the remaining rail hexes. In this case, if the Rail has been cut near Rostov, i.e. cut from the main Rail net work, then even if the port itself has 0 SP, each rail hex extending from the port will count as 1 MP+ for each Rail hex. Is this remains so in 1.09? If so, then cutting the south Rail isn’t that important, as long as the Rail being cut south of Rostov, the Rail line will stop to serve as rail head, no matter of whether it links with a port or not.


It may be an either/or situation.

atm, the Rostov rail goes west to Krasnodor then east thru the swamps which is where my south cut off is ongoing.
This distance will still mean over 45 mp down to Grozny and beyond in clear.

If he gets the more Eastern line up and running south from Rostov, then I will be in deep doo and need to cut off the Rostov line.
This should happen next turn, not as of this latest turn which is still being worked on.




I think that in your current situation, if you only rely on the rail cutting to defend BAKU, then it will be very risky and dangerous. If the AXIS knows the business, he could do this:
Secure the Rail for one turn, and do HQ build up for the 2-3 forward PZ corps, the HQs looks in 20 MP range if the rail intact for 1 turn. Too many PZ D in this region, which makes the HQ build up very dangerous to your side, and given he had paid so high price for his BAKU campaign, he will be willing to pay the AP price to get them enough fuel for two turns to storm BAKU.
Better put the fate into your own hands by sending enough troops to BAKU, like RED ARMY did in KURSK in 1943, no RUSSIAN ever regret sending too much troops there.

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barge supply - 7/24/2016 6:22:06 PM   
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Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 6:29:25 PM   
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I have 3 tank corp cut off but hold the rr corridor.

I don't think I can get to Rostov itself this turn. maybe cut rr a few hexes south of Rostov. Maybe.

I am also pushed back south of Krasnodor.




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Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 6:33:55 PM   
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He leaves one div east of river. Thus I push him back. FINALLY!

Now my far north border units can get their morale back to normal levels.

Many have been at 35 morale due to the weird supply situation (bug)at the border when the rr is cut further down.




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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 6:36:28 PM   
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I bash (bash is correct) my way to rr hex for a cut off.

I had to attack the first hex about 4 times. Thought maybe it would not succeed.

Very relieved as this was early in moves and helped decide other moves.




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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 6:40:30 PM   
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I show these because

1. I really dislike those German mountain troops at this time
2. I shot down 33 bombers. woo hoo!

I move out one hq ( and strip out its units) to be near Tiblisi in case of attack across there.

I have 3 army hq's west of the mountain and one at the mountain area.

Vatutan had been recently dismissed from Trans front which is near mountain.
Bad timing a few turns ago.




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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 6:45:20 PM   
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one attack here succeeds and one near the Moscow canal, and one near Kalinin. .

I don't think he can get across river here without major pain.

Thus, his tanks may now be of waste and not around to help down south.

I do not rescue cut off troops.




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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 6:49:40 PM   
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South of the river I 'plan' to try and pincer his tanks in the middle.


Below I try and reestablish supply to cut off tank corp just near the river.

North of the river I attempt to break thru and get to rr a few hexes south Rostov (complete failure due to Latvian ss unit)






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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 6:50:24 PM   
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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 6:51:06 PM   
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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 6:53:16 PM   
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I reach first batch of units. None to excited to be rescued it seems.

Further attacks to get to tanks fail from this side.

I then attempt the north attack pincer.

His units are very broken up and his next turn counter moves will be odd and difficult.




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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 6:56:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here I push Hun tank back over river. But that sole SS unit just above will not be denied.

I missed attacked this ss unit as I could have used 2 cav cop attack at first. I did not. Thus bad sequence.

He is strong here but his tanks are now split in this area.




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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 7:00:45 PM   
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I launched offensive south between the rivers and get over the minor river as area is unblocked behind main line.

Thin lines. Here I raise movement possibilities.

I think I am 1 mp short of cutting the whole rr just south of Stalino.

And I don't know what's in that fort hex with a Rumanian counter. Nor what's in the 3 city hexes




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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 7:02:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I decide to squeeze in a tank corp low on mp to give it 3 shots to clear the fort.

The fort contained a Rumanian hq and the fort.




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Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 10:55:21 PM   
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He had the 3 cities occupied with Partisan Garrison troops. Duh!

I bring up another raw tank corp for next turn. Hopefully I will have a chance to cut line just south of Stalino.

I have also rr in 22nd Army which was previous south Moscow.

His hq around here is OKH. He has not been getting support unit help in battles.

My 37th Army with Brymanian(spell) is at the east part of this map. Now here for a second turn and building up if lines weaken as Germans move west to support Stalino area.




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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 11:00:41 PM   
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His forces are stretched.




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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 11:02:05 PM   
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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 11:02:38 PM   
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Sneak in a yellow tank corp and get close to rr line. Another unit will be lost.




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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 11:03:53 PM   
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RE: Late June 42 - 7/24/2016 11:05:29 PM   
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All depends on Mp's. Which should be not great for Germans next turn.

Silly has the file and said he is almost done with the turn.

He does it in 4 hours. My turns last a week.




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RE: barge supply - 7/25/2016 2:59:41 PM   
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any troops going to Baku must now book a sea passage.

You have done a good turn. Very interesting turn to watch, thanks to sharing it.
Checking your last map, there are more than 15 high CV German units, which could possibly reach the gate of Makhachkara next turn, so they might be ready for making deliberate attacks at your defense in T56.
If that is the case, then the limit units you ship to Makhachkara the next turn is not likely to hold the line, the question, therefore, is whether you could hold the Axis at the next line at Derbent. I think it is clear that defeat troops is not possible to ward off the next offense, excetially with so many Germany PzD massing there. The situation there can quickly develop into a land slide victory for Germany.
The only reserve troops you could get, is the Karasnoda army. Perhaps you should at least get the troops which are holding the Mountains near Sukhumi on Rail towards Derbent once the Makchchkara line is under heavy pressure. I guess the railing should be available because BAKU is a permanent supply source?
Regarding the Rail cutting, I think that If the AXIS really be careful, it might not be difficult to secure a intact rail line, they are the stronger army and they got an entire new Italy army as reinforcement in T53, which should reach the front in T54 ( but very strangely they are missing in your Map). In fact, I think that if the AXIS just rout out everything on the way, rather than trying to kill some units, he might have secured the intact rail this turn, as many of his units are at wasteful position. He certainly made a big strategy error in T54 and waste a turn.
In short, it looks you are not likely to hold Baku by the shipped units alone, you might need the units at Karasnoda and Sukhumi. By Railing, they may reach the most matter position than the Germany infantry, which in turn bid time for more reinforcement from shipping.
Holding Baku is the most matters, you certainly have much fun in Karasnoda, but that is strategically wrong.
There is a port in Tuapse, which your Karasnoda Army is holding, by shipping some units via the Black Sea to the Batumi port in T55, they could then be Railed to Baku in T56, if the Rail at Tiblist isn't being cut at the time.

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pre moves turn 55 - 7/31/2016 2:04:12 PM   
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turn 55 - 7/31/2016 2:06:40 PM   
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RE: turn 55 - 7/31/2016 2:08:25 PM   
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turn 55 - 7/31/2016 2:09:42 PM   
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turn 55 - 7/31/2016 2:12:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		My last areas to move were south Rostov and Kranador area.

I recon and poke find hole in lines. I also 3 tanks corp at 40 mp or better waiting to exploit.





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turn 55 - 7/31/2016 2:13:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I send in tank corp and find No Germans on the rr line for protection.

rr is cut.

I also sacrifice another tank corp and cut 2 more rr hexes just further south.




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