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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/20/2016 9:32:55 PM   
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We've got it on our list.

Was reported some time ago here

http://china-defense.blogspot.gr/2014/11/zhuhai-surprise-norinco-ah-4-155mm.html

Note *Color picture that not murky or drawn on.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/21/2016 1:23:16 AM   
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Yeah, just saying PLA is confirmed to fielding it.


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ORIGINAL: Gunner98

The article states:

The AH-4 is purportedly very similar to the U.S.-made BAE Systems M777 155 mm/39 caliber ultra lightweight towed howitzers

Based on the photo, it looks like a strait up rip off of the M777

http://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/ORD_M777_Canadian_Under_CH-47_lg.jpg

With removable wheels and half a ton heavier (total 4 tons, hence the name). Also it is rumored be compatible to use NATO standard 155mm artillery rounds too. And it was tested to be lifted with Mi-17



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/21/2016 8:36:24 AM   
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Video: USS Coronado (LCS 4) Launches Harpoon Anti-ship Missile for the 1st Time

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USS Coronado (LCS 4), an Independence-class littoral combat ship, launched a Harpoon Block 1C anti-ship missile during RIMPAC 2016, the world's largest international maritime exercise current taking place off Hawai.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4223

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/21/2016 3:12:26 PM   
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French Navy Aircraft Carrier Charles de Gaulle to be Deployed Against ISIS in October
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The French Navy (Marine Nationale) aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle (R 91) will be deployed again to conduct strikes against the Islamic State (ISIS also called Daech) in October. French President Francois Hollande gave a "Fall" time frame, the Defense minister Jean-Yves Le Drian later said the deployment would take place in October. This will be the third time in two years that the flagship of the French Navy is deployed to the Persian Gulf as part of operation "Chammal".

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4227

Lockheed Martin Demonstrates LRASM’s Surface Launch Capabilities
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Lockheed Martin recently conducted a successful controlled flight test of the Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM) surface-launch variant from the Self Defense Test Ship at Pt. Mugu Sea Range, California.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4228

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/22/2016 9:17:32 AM   
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US Navy entrusting their MN allies with a lot of responsibilities lately. BZ!

French Navy Horizon-class DDG leads combined anti-terrorism mission with 2 US Navy Destroyers

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In another example of the high interoperability between the French Navy (Marine Nationale) and the US Navy, the Horizon-class AAW Destroyer Forbin (classified as "Frigate" in the French Navy) is currently at the head of a combined mission with US Navy Arleigh Burke-class destroyers USS Roosevelt (DDG 80) and USS Mason (DDG 87) with the occasional presence of Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Monterey (CG-61) as well.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4233

PLAN Conducted Major Naval Drills Involving close to 100 Vessels & Units in South China Sea

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Our colleagues from Eastpendulum are reporting that the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN or Chinese Navy) conducted large scale naval drills in the South China Sea. The naval exercise involved close to 100 vessels, submarine, aircraft from the PLAN air force and coastal defense (land based) units during 4 days (between July 7 and 11, 2016).

Based on the pictures and videos of the exercise released by the PLAN, several vessels and systems can be identified:
» Destroyers: Type 052C Lanzhou (hull number 170), Type 052D Hefei (174), Type 052B Guangzhou (168) Type 051C Shenyang (115) and Sovremenyy-class destroyers Ningbo (139).
» Type 054A Frigates Hengyang (568), Huangshan (570), Yuncheng (571), Sanya (574) and Yueyang (575)
» Type 056 Corvettes Luzhou (592), Chaozhou (595) and Huizhou (596) and Type 056A Corvette Suqian (504)
» Type 039 and Kilo-class diesel-electric submarines (SSK)
» J-10AH, J-11BH, JH-7A and Su-30MKK fighters as well as H-6G bombers
» HQ-9 medium-to-long range air defense missile system
» YJ-62 coastal defence units
» The new YJ-12 supersonic anti-ship cruise missile launched from an H-6G
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According to an official PLAN statement, the objective of this large scale exercise was to evaluate the integrated capability of the various units of the Chinese navy in case of a local conflict. The presence of the Commander of the Chinese navy, Admiral Wu Shengli, and officials of the General Staff throughout the maneuvers demonstrates the importance of this naval exercise.

With video at link: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4222



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/23/2016 11:43:14 AM   
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Chinese AG600 - worlds largest amphibious aircraft.
http://defence-blog.com/news/china-is-rolling-out-ag600-amphibious-aircraft-makes-its-official-debut-in-zhuhai.html

...So let's just imagine you need to get some troops ... err sorry visitors .... to a remote little island in a bit of a hurry!


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/23/2016 2:05:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AlGrant

Chinese AG600 - worlds largest amphibious aircraft.
http://defence-blog.com/news/china-is-rolling-out-ag600-amphibious-aircraft-makes-its-official-debut-in-zhuhai.html

...So let's just imagine you need to get some troops ... err sorry visitors .... to a remote little island in a bit of a hurry!



12 tons of 'visitors' you mean. (Water, fire retardant, modular cabin, cargo pallet, RFIB, and ultimately, maritime sensors).

And besides, the news I saw they got at least 14 orders for this aircraft, and unlikely will be used for military purpose before it reached its maturity for the basic operations for waterplane. Besides, do not forget that China can co-opt some airliners for 'even faster transportation for visitors'.



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/24/2016 11:03:19 PM   
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AG600 is of the High New Y-8/Y-9 series of transports and specialized aircrafts, the recently presented AG600 is a close derivative of Y-9, with the same wingspan (40 m.) and same engines (4xWJ-6, six-bladed propellers and not four as stated in the old Wikipedia entry, is a derivative of the old Soviet AI-20). 60 planes to be delivered the next 15 years. Cruise speed estimated in 500 Km/h and range in 4500 Km in some videos:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaanxi_Y-9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVIC_TA-600

Roll-out video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJEjr8LwTH0

General characteristics video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDjgKUpFCp8

Old speculative profile of AG600:
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1252


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/25/2016 1:44:31 AM   
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It is hardly resemble to Y-8/Y-9 from the looks of it. Those engines might be the same, but the entire fuselage is different (definitely not as easy as design the lower half with An-12'a top), and using Y-20's raised wingbox configuration for taller cargo height. See these pictures below:

Also the rear landing gears for AG600 are externally installed, and so far there's no STOL capability like Y-9 yet.





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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/25/2016 3:17:54 AM   
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http://www.weibo.com/p/23044462d953be9d98cadd57778e9324347fcb
Alternative link for the video, when the 1st one didnt work:
http://tv.sohu.com/20160724/n460781247.shtml

For the first time, the Chinese state media is showing footages of a mid-course ABM test. The footages are from 2010 and 2013. At 00:20 they show a blurry shape of a missile that is identical to the images of the speculated HQ-19 ABM we have seen before.

screengrabs here:
http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2016-07-25/237050_2765102.htm

The HQ-19 would be China's equivalent to the THAAD, although evidently capable of performing mid-course interception - and rumored to be useable as ASAT for LEO satellites.





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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/25/2016 4:49:17 AM   
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A deliberate reaction against US's THHAD will be deployed at SK. ABM arm race might be a good thing for the humanity, I think?

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/25/2016 10:05:42 AM   
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An update for the DB in the near future...


Newly Built PLAN Type 052D Destroyers Getting Fitted with Larger H/PJ-11 CIWS


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Based on pictures that have been just released by Chinese spotters, it appears that the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN or Chinese Navy) next in-line Type 052D Destroyers (NATO reporting name Luyang III class) will be fitted with the H/PJ-11 close-in weapon system (CIWS) instead of the smaller H/PJ-12 currently fitted on existing vessels of the class.

read more: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4239

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/25/2016 12:25:31 PM   
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Ah, the long awaited 052D Flight II!


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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/25/2016 5:42:15 PM   
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Does it work yet? Nope!

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/uss-gerald-r-ford-aircraft-carrier-delay/index.html

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/28/2016 11:59:14 AM   
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New 052D with Type 1130 CIWS Launched!

9th Type 052D Luyang-II DDG built by Shanghai Jiangnan Shipyard, and the 13th 052D overall. Previously, it was assumed that only 12 052Ds were ordered. Now, the new rumor is that this run will see at least 18 ships in total.



Maybe we should name it "Type 052D+ (2016)"

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/28/2016 12:16:01 PM   
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http://www.janes.com/article/62599/chinese-media-show-footage-of-possible-hq-19-test

EDIT: New link with a longer article available:

http://www.janes.com/article/62658/chinese-media-show-footage-of-possible-hq-19-test

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Chinese media show footage of possible HQ-19 test

Richard D Fisher Jr, Washington, DC - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
27 July 2016

In a television report about China's development of anti-ballistic missile (ABM) capabilities, Chinese state media revealed for the first time details of a test the People's Liberation Army (PLA) conducted of what appears to be an HQ-19 anti-missile system.

The release of the video footage by China Central Television on 24 July comes just a few days after Beijing failed to convince Seoul and Washington not to deploy the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) air defence system in South Korea. While the exact date and location of the test is unknown, Chinese newspaper People's Daily Online reported the following day that the PLA had tested the HQ-19 system in 2010.



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Chinese media show footage of possible HQ-19 test

In a television report about China's development of anti-ballistic missile (ABM) capabilities, Chinese state media revealed for the first time details of a test the People's Liberation Army (PLA) conducted of what appears to be an HQ-19 anti-missile system.

The release of the video footage by China Central Television on 24 July comes just a few days after Beijing failed to convince Seoul and Washington not to deploy the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system in South Korea. While the exact date and location of the test is unknown, Chinese media outlet People's Daily Online reported the following day that the PLA had tested the HQ-19 system in 2010.

The report contained a vague profile of what may be the HQ-19. It shows over-exposed footage of an ABM system similar to that described on Chinese online forums as the HQ-19. The first such image emerged in January 2014, and a subsequent graphic featured in a 2015 academic article by PLA analyst Henri Kenhmann.

If credible, this graphic indicates that the HQ-19 is a two- or possibly three-stage ABM. Chinese sources also suggest that development of the HQ-19 began in the early 1990s under the aegis of the 863 Programme and that it may have been tested for the first time in 2003.

The HQ-19 is reported to have a performance comparable with that of the US Army's THAAD system, but there had been no open-source reports indicating that it had been deployed.

The TV footage was part of a report on Chinese missile defence pioneer Brigadier General Chen Deming. The report focused on Chen's role in ABM development in the former General Armaments Department, which is now part of the Strategic Support Force. It mentioned his ABM work early in the past decade, his participation in the 11 January 2007 anti-satellite test, the 11 January 2010 mid-course ABM test, as well as a subsequent 27 January 2013 ABM test.


The HQ-19 is a mysterious system. Most sources say that the HQ-19 is China's KKV-equipped THAAD equivalent, this test here shows a mid-course interception test: Maybe not something a THAAD-like missile is known for being capable of. So, the Chinese BBS actually think that the HQ-19 might be China's GBI equivalent (which would be pretty large one indeed), or at least some SM-3 class mid-course ABM system that is capable against every missile except ICBMs.

Here are some older and recently leaked pictures that are said to show the HQ-19:




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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/28/2016 1:33:01 PM   
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http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2016/03/21/0200000000AEN20160321006400315.html
http://themess.net/forum/military-discussion/40318-rok-navy-has-16-pkx-b-batch-1-missile-crafts-on-order
http://themess.net/forum/military-discussion/40318-rok-navy-has-16-pkx-b-batch-1-missile-crafts-on-order/page2

PKX-B(PKG-B) is a smaller variant of the Gumdoksuri missile patrol boat with up to 16 hulls to be built by 2020. The 200-ton class PKG-B boats are intended as the replacement for the Chamsuri class patrol vessels.

Displacement: 200 tons (load displacement: 250 tons)
Length: 44m
Beam: 7m
Speed: 40 knots
Propulsion: CODAG, 2 x General Electric LM500 gas turbine, 2 x MTU 12V 595 TE90; Water jet propulsion
Armament: Hyundai Wia 76mm gun(OTO Melara 76mm), 2 x 12.7mm RWS integration, LIG Nex1 130mm anti-ship LOGIR
Sensors : LIG Nex1 SPS-540K surveillance radar or Hanwha Thales SPG-540K tracking radar, Hanwha Thales EOTS, Kongsberg SS2030 sonars




LIG Nex1 130mm anti-ship LOGIR


This ship name is Chamsuri (PKMR 211) it launched today.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/29/2016 3:35:14 PM   
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Spotted this on Reddit - looks like the Daily Star misunerstood one the Ministry of Defence's latest' contracts...

(Corrected article here... It's not very good, but how could I miss the opportunity to share?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/533645/ministry-for-defence-gun-million-trident-conservative-weapons

£183m for three guns - the "Maritime Indirect Fire System (MIFS) will sit on the Type 26 Global Combat ships".




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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/30/2016 12:15:14 AM   
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The United States Air Force has issued 2 Request for Proposals for new nuclear weapons systems.
First one for a new ICBM (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile)
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=e7b03a665fdef89b84d74e88191cbbf6&tab=core&_cview=1

The second for ALCM (Air Launch Cruise Missile) and that programs RFP is classified.
http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2016/07/despite-objections-pentagon-takes-step-toward-buying-new-nuclear-weapons/130355/

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/30/2016 2:26:32 AM   
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Looks like the hypersonic warfare will make another Cold War mindset struck into the globe again.

Meanwhile, the midnight anomaly at US sky appears again few days ago, some said its an omen of peace or ET activity, but many Chinese warmongers in military forums believed its's a delicate experiment to test the orbiting and re-entry weapon system with debris of CZ-7 boosting stage, Something like Orbital Missile experiments that prohibited to be used in space (Chinese did attempt to develop it called DF-6 orbital missile, but discarded due to the technological difficulty at 80s, rather than the treaty restricted them).

Those are indeed CZ-7 2nd stage debris, but it reach to US after a month so accurately does not sounds like a normal re-entry event:

https://youtu.be/fFpL36n68eY (Warning: profanity)



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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/30/2016 6:01:26 PM   
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The carrier mockup in Wuhan Naval Institute received some major modifications: No Ski-Jump anymore, and a much reduced island!


compared to the previous design of 2014, reflecting the Ex-Varyag/Liaoning CV (note that in late 2014/2015 the island was further reworked, possibly to simulate the altered design of the modified 2nd Liaoning-class carrier Type 001A currently under construction in Dalian Shipyard):


So, people are of course quick to assume that this change would be an indication for China's next (3rd) carrier, the Type 002, which was rumored to be some Chinese version of the Kitty Hawk, a conventional CATOBAR carrier. The steel-cutting has already happened earlier this year, when rumors by the usual leakers are to be believed.

Some signs are already there: A J-15 variant might have surfaced featuring a catapult-capable forward landing gear dubbed the "J-15T" ("T" for Tangshe "Catapult Launch"):


In any case, the near future will show whether these rumors and signs will prove to be right or wrong.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 7/31/2016 3:38:08 PM   
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-defence-missiles-idUSKCN10812X

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China says pressing ahead with own anti-missile system

China's Defence Ministry confirmed on Thursday that it was pressing ahead with anti-missile system tests after pictures appeared on state television, amid anger at South Korea's decision to deploy an advanced U.S. anti-missile system.

An announcement by South Korea and the United States this month that they would deploy a Terminal High Altitude Area Defence (THAAD) unit has drawn protests from China, which warned that the system would destabilize regional security.

The decision by the United States and South Korea is the latest move to squeeze increasingly isolated North Korea, but China worries the system's radar will be able to track its military capabilities. Russia also opposes the deployment.

Pictures broadcast this week on Chinese television were the third time since 2010 that China has publicly indicated tests of its own anti-missile system, state media said.

"To develop suitable capabilities for missile defense is necessary for China to maintain its national security," Defence Ministry spokesman Yang Yujun told a regular monthly briefing, when asked about the footage.

"It will improve the self-defense capability of China and is not targeting any specific country and will not affect international strategic stability," he added, without elaborating.

South Korea and the United States have said THAAD would only be used in defense against North Korean ballistic missiles and they have tried to assuage Chinese concerns, without apparent success.

A senior U.S. administration official said on Tuesday, at the end of a visit to China by U.S. National Security Adviser Susan Rice, that the decision to deploy THAAD did not threaten China's security.

Yang repeated that China would consider taking unspecified measures to maintain strategic balance, and dismissed assertions that THAAD was no threat to China.

"As for the technical excuses from the United States and South Korea, experts can easily see how believable this is," he said.

North Korea has launched a series of missiles in recent months, the latest last week when it fired three ballistic missiles in what it said was a simulated test of preemptive strikes against South Korean ports and air fields used by the U.S. military.

China's military is undergoing an ambitious modernization program that has included tests of anti-satellite missiles.


Hopefully, this would mean that China finally discloses a bit more about the HQ-19 ABM system - such as some real photos and useable stats.

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 8/2/2016 2:59:52 PM   
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http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2016/08/02/0200000000AEN20160802011951315.html

The secretary and the USFK commander were vague on details about what option is being examined to defend South Koreans and U.S. soldiers and other assets here, but sources in South Korea's military said Seoul may start discussions with the U.S. for the deployment of a Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) system here that could be deployed on South Korea's second batch of Aegis destroyers. Currently, South Korea's Navy operates SM-2 missiles with a flight range of around 150 km with its three Aegis destroyers, and there have been requests for the introduction of SM-3 missiles with a range of about 500 km to enhance the country's layers of defense.

South Korea MD Plans : SM-3 + THAAD(USFK) + PAC-3

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 8/2/2016 6:04:41 PM   
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The Russian helicopter shoot-down yesterday in Syria was a Mi-8AMTSh/Mi-171Sh Terminator, RF-95585, one of most avanced Russian transport and assault types, in service from December 2010 or February 2014 (I was very intrigued this morning by this same photo in the newspaper, showing an unidentified (at least for me) metallic electro-optic ball below the tail boom, now at home with a little research is clear). The "ball" was not present at December 2015 in the same helicopter:
http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2016/1-august-ruaf-mi8amtsh-212--rf95585-december-2015--/comments
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-01/russia-says-five-crew-killed-as-helicopter-shot-down-in-syria#media-1





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RE: Naval and Defense News - 8/3/2016 12:10:56 PM   
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U.S. Air Force declares first squadron of F-35A's combat ready!

http://www.defensenews.com/story/breaking-news/2016/08/02/f35-ioc-air-force-operational-acc-combat/87948142/

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RE: Naval and Defense News - 8/4/2016 4:47:34 PM   
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There has been a huge update and an infodump on the wikipedia-page for the Type 346 or H/LJG-346 SAPAR, the 4-faced naval AESA that is equipped on the Type 052C and 052D Destroyers (And the Liaoning CV), sourced from a translated chinese article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_346_Radar

It is very comprehensive and talks about the development history of the radar, about how the bid went, how it had to compete against a shorter ranged C-band competitor and how it was nearly killed due to intense political maneuverings between the two design institutes. All in all, a very deep look into how the "Star of the Sea" or "Dragon Eye" (in NATO code) came to be.

But most importantly out of all, it provides for the first time semi-official specs on the performance:

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For Type 346:[4][5][14]

Total number of faces: 4
Bands: S and C
S-band array size & shape: octagon with 4 meter diameter
C-band array size & shape: ≈ 0.8 to 1 square meter rectangular ea.
Number of S-band arrays: 4 (1 per face)
Number of C-band arrays: 8 (2 per face)
Maximum search range (km): > 400
Weight (t): < 16 above deck
Scan: 120°
Elevation: 0° to 90°
Cooling: Air (Type 346), Liquid (Type 346A)



Also very interesting is the information that the Type 346/A is a S and C band dual band radar. The S-band array on the basic Type 346 has more than 5000 T/R modules, giving it more than 400km range and is used for air-search, while the two C-band arrays with an unknown count of T/R modules, which sandwitches the S-band main array, takes over the role of fire-control and guidance of all variants of the HHQ-9 missiles like the standard TVM, SARH and the ARH version. The early Type 346 radar (Type 115) was close to the AN/APQ-53 radar of MIM-104 Patriot, which also featured such a dual-band design, with a main array and another FCR array on the same radar.

The improved Type 346A on the Type 052D Destroyer has further increased T/R count and uses liquid cooling, possibly for its increased peak power of with 100KW, and possibly range increases.

Now, the early picture of the Type 346 SAPAR makes sense: One can see the main octagon and the two bars ontop and below it that sandwiches the main array.



And for comparisson, the AN/APQ-53 radar of MIM-104 Patriot, which uses a similiar dual-band concept:



Still, I would say that (NATO) C-band has insufficient resolution for true FCR-like 'painting of the target' to support TVM or SARH, so I would assume that the 'FCR-like capability' of the two C-band bars on each radar are used for mid-course guidance instead, while the HHQ-9 is still an Active Radar Homing missile like the FD-2000 export SAM, as compared to the TVM-guided land-based HQ-9, which is guided by the HT-233 (NATO) G-band radar.

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Found this on Twitter.
Not sure how accurate it is but worth a look.
https://twitter.com/alert5/status/761431599502077954/photo/1

"This chart helps you to identify all Chinese variants of the FLANKER"

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AlGrant

Found this on Twitter.
Not sure how accurate it is but worth a look.
https://twitter.com/alert5/status/761431599502077954/photo/1

"This chart helps you to identify all Chinese variants of the FLANKER"




It is pretty accurate in my view. Radome color, tandem-seat or not and clipped tail fins are really the main distinguishing features of each Sino-Flanker variants. Albeit, with the J-11D and J-16D (Sino-Growler), the signature wouldnt just only be "solid grey radome", but also a "canted solid grey radome".

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https://amti.csis.org/build-it-and-they-will-come/

CSIS report about the construction of hardened shelters on those artificial islands in the South China Sea, seemingly capable of hosting regiment-sized air-groups including large bombers and AWACS/Tankers.

Most notably, all islands also have those mysterious hexagonal structures distributed all around on the shores. My hunch is that they will house defensive weapons of some sort - maybe CIWS or DP-naval-gun mounts. Some say that they might even be for VLS launchers carrying short/medium range self-defense SAM.


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https://amti.csis.org/build-it-and-they-will-come/

CSIS report about the construction of hardened shelters on those artificial islands in the South China Sea, seemingly capable of hosting regiment-sized air-groups including large bombers and AWACS/Tankers.

Most notably, all islands also have those mysterious hexagonal structures distributed all around on the shores. My hunch is that they will house defensive weapons of some sort - maybe CIWS or DP-naval-gun mounts. Some say that they might even be for VLS launchers carrying short/medium range self-defense SAM.




Really nice post.

My sense though is most of this stuff dies in the first salvo but likewise anybody trying to take an island and dig in will suffer the same. Really want to be a marine on an atoll with no features able to dig into all that well while your enemy uses PGM and effect based munitions? Even in WW2 most of the islands had a mountain etc. These islands and atolls. Basically none. All you can do is dig down but only so far

Mike



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