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RE: Disaster! - 8/5/2016 5:17:48 PM   
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RE: Disaster! - 8/6/2016 8:04:51 AM   
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The Babes team put together a "gnarly roads" in China version of the pwhex file set for Babes campaign scenarios.


From what I remember it didn´t really impact supply as Symon wanted it too. Japan can still take out China with relative ease?

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RE: Disaster! - 8/7/2016 2:49:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		The next day, and the intrepid MTB's strike again, sinking a 9 vp xAP and scaring some Allied CVEs.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Sadogashima at 114,56, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-877
MTB G-1004, Shell hits 1, on fire
MTB G-1006

Allied Ships
CVE Suwannee
CVE Santee
CVE Altamaha
CVE Nehenta Bay
CVE Marcus Island
CVE Sitkoh Bay
CVE Thetis Bay
CVE Sargent Bay
DD Cushing
DD Paladin
DD Penn
DD Quilliam
DE Lovelace
DE Neuendorf
DE Raby
DE Thomason, Shell hits 2, heavy damage
DE Deede
DE Dempsey
DE Fair
DE Burden R. Hastings
DD Talbot, Shell hits 1
APD Clemson
APD Hopping, Shell hits 2
xAP Chaumont, and is sunk
xAP St. Mihel
xAP President Fillmore
xAP President Buchanan
AK Albireo
xAK Steel Voyager
xAK Julia Luckenbach
xAK Walter Luckenbach
xAK Mahukona
xAK Waipo
xAK San Anselmo
xAK San Bernadino
xAK West Ira
xAK Nancy Lykes
xAK Cape Ann
xAK Cape Chalmers
xAK Cape Meredith, Shell hits 2
xAK Trade Wind
xAK Virginia Lykes
xAK Agwiking
xAK African Patriot
xAK Cape Lambert
xAK Cape Constantine
xAK Fusto Arosemena
xAK Nathaniel Ingersoll
xAK T. A. Johnson
xAK William S. Colley
xAK George C. Perkins, Shell hits 1
xAK George Middlemas
xAK Gilbert M. Hitchcock
xAK Henry H. Blood
xAK Henry L. Abott
xAK Henry L. Gantt
xAK Henry White

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms with 10% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 10% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...

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RE: Disaster! - 8/7/2016 2:50:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		No major attacks on Honshu, but this one in China...

Ground combat at 71,48 (near Kunming)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 104105 troops, 323 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2316

Defending force 24032 troops, 244 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 648

Allied adjusted assault: 1012

Japanese adjusted defense: 625

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
743 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 47 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 16 (13 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2609 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 458 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 51 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
60th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Corps
64th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
88th Chinese Corps
Fourteenth USAAF /1

Defending units:
70th Division
12th Ind.Infantry Brigade
110th Division
21st Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

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RE: Disaster! - 8/7/2016 2:52:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Screwed up my last turn, as I started it on one computer and finished it on another..I negelected to free up supply on Honshu.

Maizuru AA guns are bone dry now, and being heavily bombed and bombarded.

Should have over 4000 AV there for the big fight on the morrow, but supply?

Could be ugly...but if I get one more day then supply should flow in...

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RE: Disaster! - 8/8/2016 3:32:00 PM   
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No major attacks on Honshu, Allies rest their bombers for the most part over Honshi.

Over 4000 AV at Maizuru but supplies short. Many AA units have no supply, and yet there is plentiful supply at Kobe & Osaka, but it isn't flowing out. Perhaps some will make it the other way, or it will simply take a few days to catch up.

15 days until December.




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RE: Disaster! - 8/10/2016 2:21:06 PM   
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Maizuru is bombed, and bombarded by everything the Allies have.


4000 IJA AV squared off against 3900 Allied AV...forts are level 3, but the supply has arrived and every unit has their full allotment.






Allies lose almost 70 planes bombing Maizuru...

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RE: Disaster! - 8/10/2016 2:23:28 PM   
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Nov 15, 1944

Maizuru is bombed, and bombarded by everything the Allies have.


4000 IJA AV squared off against 3900 Allied AV...forts are level 3, but the supply has arrived and every unit has their full allotment.







Maizuru was the base that won my game for me.

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RE: Disaster! - 8/10/2016 2:27:22 PM   
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RE: Disaster! - 8/10/2016 3:03:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just managed to drop 20,000 supply into Luzon, and I am going to try and drop that much into China, which would really go far there.

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RE: Disaster! - 8/10/2016 4:28:46 PM   
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Where did you pull the supply from? It is funny because pulling 20k supply is a big deal for the Empire but the Allies probably don't even bother with 20k. They would throw 200k at the problems as a good start. Allies Problems ...

I am surprised he lets that much shipping wander around. I guess all his combat vessels are blockading the HI and Luzon really does not matter to him.

Wa

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RE: Disaster! - 8/10/2016 4:37:28 PM   
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RE: Disaster! - 8/10/2016 7:28:28 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Palembang, Miri, Balikpapen are all still mine and cranking out supplies daily.

I make an effort to move those supplies to China, where they are needed...so for it is working, if slowly.

turn is away, and no to the other game...

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RE: Disaster! - 8/13/2016 4:45:21 PM   
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Another day...no attack at Maizuru.

I think after the recent battles, he will be forced to invade again. The AA at Maizuru is incredible strong, and i think I can move troops fast enough along my interior lines to keep him at bay here, despite the horrendous naval bombardments.

At least until supply vaporizes.

50 B29s hit a fighter base of mine with predictable results.

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RE: Disaster! - 8/13/2016 11:11:28 PM   
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Maizuru is bombed with everything, and bombarded with everything the Allies have.

IJA AA knocks down 140 planes plus.

No major attacks on Honshu. Chengtu suffers the first attack.

I am stripping some garrisons in China to bolster some rear defenses from marauding Allied armies.

I will most likely see December, but I wonder how long into December?




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RE: Disaster! - 8/14/2016 12:59:08 AM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		VP ratio is now 2.447 to one, down from a high of 2.451 six days ago.

At the beginning of Nov it was 2.393 to 1.


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RE: Disaster! - 8/14/2016 1:15:16 PM   
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Big face off at Maizuru continues with 4000+ on each side.

Artillery bombardments go in Japan's favour, but aerial and naval bombardment to the Allies. I have a ton of units there absorbing the bombardments, and that tends to leave the combat troops in good shape relatively speaking.

B29s are back to strategic bombing now, does that mean he has given up on the grinding ground war on Honshu and will now look to invade?

Allies lose 30 planes to AA and scale back the 4E over Maizuru and pretty much use only single engine bombers.

Planning something now, and the battleships continue repairing their system damage nicely.

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RE: Disaster! - 8/15/2016 5:53:54 PM   
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Still holding on....

IJAAF bombers hit twice the Chinese/Commonwealth/British troops moving across the river at Ichang. IJA has 600AV dug in on the other side of the river.




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RE: Disaster! - 8/15/2016 5:54:42 PM   
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RE: Disaster! - 8/15/2016 5:55:27 PM   
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RE: Disaster! - 8/18/2016 4:45:30 AM   
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Still fighting, Chengtu falls today...but IJA troopers in the mountains are still holding on.






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RE: Disaster! - 8/18/2016 2:19:39 PM   
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Allies might be moving in force on Osaka, or perhaps a feint. Maizuru still gets plenty of attention.

On to Jockes game...

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RE: Disaster! - 8/20/2016 1:23:41 PM   
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Now there is almost a doubling of troops in Osaka...up against some 2000 AV of Japanese troops, that are fully supplied and not disrupted behind level 3 forts in great, if destroyed, terrain.

I am dispatching another 1,000 points of reserve AV to this area....in case they are needed.

VP ratio stands at 2.5 to one, and now I am starting to strip some Chinese towns of some of their garrisons to bolster defensive front lines...near Ichang for example.

VP ratio is under 2.5 to 1, Growth in Nov has been been .2....can I make Jan?


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RE: Disaster! - 8/20/2016 11:57:28 PM   
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The 3rd Tank Division, holding the lines in reserve mode at Maizuru is tasked with a quick relocation to Osaka...in fact almost all Japanese tanks are at Maizuru, but it is the the 3rd Tank that fields the most Type 3's, and is in the best shape.

Training, elan, and leadership excellent...they depart in the middle of the night for a long run.

Will it be in time, for there is now over 6000 AV of Allied troops in Osaka....and they are fresh. Not so for the battered Japanese.

And this day, High Command is correct at forecasting the attack...the Allied AF rain bombs down on Osaka, but good forts and nasty terrain shelter the troops and there is no naval bombardments.

The Expected attack comes in the afternoon, the 3rd Tank has made the run and is in position as a fast reaction reserve force....the tanks rev their engines, ready to plug gaps, o launch counter attacks, to hold the line...

But this day, yes, this day, the reserves aren't needed.

The line holds, the forts degraded, but the Japanese troops fight and hold.

The Allied resolve is failing, they can't take the losses...the drumbeat of a negotiated peace with honor set for Jan 1, 1945 draws one day closer.






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RE: Disaster! - 8/21/2016 12:04:17 AM   
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shells for their guns, fuel for their tanks, rations for the men....what bother a little disruption? -- this is war!!!

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RE: Disaster! - 8/21/2016 4:32:48 AM   
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... The line holds, the forts degraded, but the Japanese troops fight and hold.

The Allied resolve is failing, they can't take the losses...the drumbeat of a negotiated peace with honor set for Jan 1, 1945 draws one day closer...



You do realise that a 2:1 for the Allies on 1 January 1945 represents an unconditional surrender by Japan.

Of course, if you are preparing a public broadcast from the palace for your subjects, one could say you are being too modest. You may as well inform your subjects that as a great victory has been achieved, you have decided to spare the Allies from further pointless loss of life.

Alfred

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RE: Disaster! - 8/21/2016 2:10:09 PM   
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RE: Disaster! - 8/27/2016 2:48:41 AM   
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RE: Disaster! - 8/27/2016 1:28:09 PM   
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Allies look to invade Soochow, one hex north of Shanghai, and then move to Shanghai and its 2300 VPs. Not much I can do to stop them...

Supplies scarce, Allies naval bombard Maizuru and aerial bomb Osaka. A deliberate attack strikes at Maizuru, where 30% of the IJA Army troops are in reserve no pursuit mode...one IJA division is totally out of supplies along with most of the AA present.

Ground combat at Maizuru (110,58)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 103127 troops, 1534 guns, 2893 vehicles, Assault Value = 3967

Defending force 174989 troops, 2956 guns, 1311 vehicles, Assault Value = 4336

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 1343

Japanese adjusted defense: 2439

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
8546 casualties reported
Squads: 224 destroyed, 196 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 256 disabled
Engineers: 60 destroyed, 83 disabled
Guns lost 328 (71 destroyed, 257 disabled)
Vehicles lost 156 (13 destroyed, 143 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
3526 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 279 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 69 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 115 disabled
Guns lost 85 (4 destroyed, 81 disabled)
Vehicles lost 209 (19 destroyed, 190 disabled)

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RE: Disaster! - 8/27/2016 1:30:33 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Digging Japanese troops out of their fortifications in the mountain roads near Kunming....Allies have reinforced with a 900AV Chinese Corp.

Ground combat at 71,48 (near Kunming)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 97112 troops, 321 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2253

Defending force 20000 troops, 183 guns, 19 vehicles, Assault Value = 439

Allied adjusted assault: 832

Japanese adjusted defense: 667

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
594 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 66 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1997 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 233 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

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