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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/11/2016 8:26:56 PM   
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realise you've all been waiting for an update on Scotland's glorious progress in the (very) early rounds of the Europa League.

Well Aberdeen managed to get past the champions of Luxembourg despite losing the second leg. They may yet make it to somewhere near the real competition.


Warspite, anything to say about these news (or threats)? Sam Allardyce is obvious choice for England, says Sir Alex Ferguson

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Not really. We've had some decent players over the years - and yet, no matter who we pay huge amounts of money too - overseas coaches, established English coaches, champions league winners, younger English managers - the fact is the results are broadly similar.

Sam Allardyce as a footballer was an old school 'unit'. Finesse, elegance, skill are three words that would not be used to describe his playing ability - the very opposite of say Glenn Hoddle, but then regardless of the reasons he was sacked, their were rumblings of discontent before Hoddle was removed.

As far as being a manager is concerned, Allardyce has not done much in terms of silverware - but then he's not managed clubs that expect that. What he has done is achieved more than a degree of success through being able to organise a football team and get players playing to their strengths. He has proved a safe pair of hands.

Who knows? Maybe he is what the English game needs in that latter regard? The danger of course is that he will prove to be as incapable as Roy Hodgson in making that leap when managing 'better' players. I have no wish to kick a man when he's down, but I blame the FA for this latest debacle. They had the experience of Hodgson's brief tenure at Liverpool as a guide - or at least a warning - not to mention the disaster that was the last World Cup.

Personally I am a little bit in couldn't care less corner at the moment. The overpaid, over indulged losers don't deserve anything...



I think the Hoddle problem was he could never understand why someone else lacked his magnetic ball control - so was not actually a particularly good coach as he couldn't break down what he did, or tolerate those lacking his own level of skill?

The idea of Allardyce is terrifying - I mean the idea that the EFA are even going to interview him is utterly scary, that he might get the job is truely bizarre. I understand that some Celtic fans wouldn't mind having Rogers taken off their hands already - they've gone from pleased to get him to bemused at all the management psycho-babble he comes out with,
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That Rodgers signed for Celtic before the Euro debacle is something to at least be grateful for.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/11/2016 9:18:20 PM   
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The idea of Allardyce is terrifying - I mean the idea that the EFA are even going to interview him is utterly scary, that he might get the job is truely bizarre.


From what I could gather (as an outsider), this guy is some sort of firefighter. Hired to struggle with mid table (and below) teams: he managed to save Sunderland this year. But he never made it to the elite.

In other words, the classical coach struggling with limited means.

Well, perhaps that's what the team needs now: the feet on the ground, reset, humility and... who knows what's next.

If I am not mistaken, England already copied the German, Spanish and French youth system. Results (production of good competent players) might come in the future. In any case, it worked in all 3 countries mentioned.

And oops! The Guardian strikes again! Sam Allardyce is the regeneration man who can rebuild England

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/12/2016 7:53:51 AM   
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Anyway, for those suffering from post Euro withdrawals, advance news of tonights big match. Celtic against the champions of Gibralter. Should be a tense well balanced tussle between Rodgers' "philosophy" and footballing realities.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/12/2016 9:04:30 PM   
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realise you've all been waiting for an update on Scotland's glorious progress in the (very) early rounds of the Europa League.

Well Aberdeen managed to get past the champions of Luxembourg despite losing the second leg. They may yet make it to somewhere near the real competition.
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Never mind the Europa League..........

Lincoln Red Imps 1 - 0 Celtic

Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/12/2016 9:15:29 PM   
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Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......

So Gibraltar has its own league?

That result makes me slightly worried because Europa FC are on a visit.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/12/2016 9:31:09 PM   
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Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......

So Gibraltar has its own league?

That result makes me slightly worried because Europa FC are on a visit.
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Why? You haven't got Brendan Rodgers in charge have you?


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/12/2016 9:34:14 PM   
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Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......

So Gibraltar has its own league?

That result makes me slightly worried because Europa FC are on a visit.
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Why? You haven't got Brendan Rodgers in charge have you?


No. We just sacked our manager and rehired one (after a few years away from the club) that is all but a saint to most supporters. Why has eluded me.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/12/2016 10:14:19 PM   
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realise you've all been waiting for an update on Scotland's glorious progress in the (very) early rounds of the Europa League.

Well Aberdeen managed to get past the champions of Luxembourg despite losing the second leg. They may yet make it to somewhere near the real competition.
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Never mind the Europa League..........

Lincoln Red Imps 1 - 0 Celtic

Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......



Well I have to admit even I didn't expect Brendan to weave his particular form of footballing magic quite that quickly

#IsthisScoxit?

maybe they are only part time champions as they share it with the other team on alternate days?

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/12/2016 10:18:05 PM   
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realise you've all been waiting for an update on Scotland's glorious progress in the (very) early rounds of the Europa League.

Well Aberdeen managed to get past the champions of Luxembourg despite losing the second leg. They may yet make it to somewhere near the real competition.
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Never mind the Europa League..........

Lincoln Red Imps 1 - 0 Celtic

Who the hell are Lincoln Red Imps? Well they are the part time Gibraltarian champions......



Well I have to admit even I didn't expect Brendan to weave his particular form of footballing magic quite that quickly

#IsthisScoxit?

maybe they are only part time champions as they share it with the other team on alternate days?
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Maybe. But as Brendan says - there is no embarrassment in losing to a bunch of part-timers......

....I'm sure Roy will agree with him.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/12/2016 10:43:09 PM   
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Maybe. But as Brendan says - there is no embarrassment in losing to a bunch of part-timers......

....I'm sure Roy will agree with him.



well look on the bright side .. he could well be available for the England job by this time next week?

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/12/2016 10:43:40 PM   
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Maybe. But as Brendan says - there is no embarrassment in losing to a bunch of part-timers......

....I'm sure Roy will agree with him.



well look on the bright side .. he could well be available for the England job by this time next week?
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YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/13/2016 12:33:19 PM   
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Please no!
Why do you do this!?!


I really cannot believe that the FA think this is a good idea, I'd actually prefer the team to go without a manager. If anyone wants to know why I think this would be aterrible decision, take a look at how West Ham performed with him in charge and the immediate improvement when Slavan Bilic took charge. This would set a new record for the amount of smug exuded by one man if it happens.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/13/2016 3:57:58 PM   
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Maybe. But as Brendan says - there is no embarrassment in losing to a bunch of part-timers......

....I'm sure Roy will agree with him.



well look on the bright side .. he could well be available for the England job by this time next week?
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YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!



The number of Celtic fans wandering around trying to convince themselves it doesn't matter ... 'manager's first game', etc ... is rather amusing. Especially as everyone who has observed Rodgers' philosophy in action elsewhere is only surprised by how early it all went wrong, rather than that it has gone wrong.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/13/2016 8:43:34 PM   
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Sam Allardyce for England?

Please no!
Why do you do this!?!


I really cannot believe that the FA think this is a good idea, I'd actually prefer the team to go without a manager. If anyone wants to know why I think this would be aterrible decision, take a look at how West Ham performed with him in charge and the immediate improvement when Slavan Bilic took charge. This would set a new record for the amount of smug exuded by one man if it happens.
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A few years ago I would have been a mix of incandescent with rage and genuinely fearful for the future at the news that someone like Allardyce was even being considered. But, you know what? I actually hope he gets it. As I said in an earlier post, there is always the possibility he could be another Roy Hodgson or Steve McLaren, but then again he might just be the sort of no-nonsense old school manager that knows how to organise a team.

Good luck to you Mr A if you get it


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/15/2016 5:54:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Since I realise you are all so keen to know. Well Hibs lost (not unusual) and to a good Danish side so no real surprise. Hearts could only manage a draw against a team from Malta (I never realised that Malta had so many entries into the Europa league). So quite feasible that Scotland's capital may have exited Europe this time next week.

Aberdeen put in a display of boring competence so will probably reach the 3rd Qualifying Round ...

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/21/2016 7:59:50 AM   
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Brendan's philosophy is back on course as Celtic win 3-0

and it seems that England really have given big Sam the job?

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/21/2016 7:59:10 PM   
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and it seems that England really have given big Sam the job?
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Well, I for one am quite pleased with the appointment. Time will tell of course, but I think he is capable of doing a decent job.


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 7/21/2016 11:07:00 PM   
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So that is 50% of Scotland's sides in European leagues already knocked out and we are not even into august .

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/26/2016 5:35:00 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/26/2016 6:26:10 PM   
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Well as if I didn't like this young lady enough already. Now it turns out she's a Spurs fan




I am also a fan of the San Antonio Spurs. Laura has excellent taste!




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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 8/26/2016 6:31:50 PM   
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Well as if I didn't like this young lady enough already. Now it turns out she's a Spurs fan




I am also a fan of the San Antonio Spurs. Laura has excellent taste!

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The latter? Yes. The former... no, I don't think so.....


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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/5/2016 7:39:04 AM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/6/2016 8:49:24 PM   
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"...not for me to say where Wayne Rooney will play" and added: "Wayne played wherever he wanted to. I can't stop Wayne playing there.

I think that he holds a lot more experience at international football than me as an international manager. Using his experience with a team, playing as a team member, it's not for me to say where he is going to play." - Sam Allardyce after the Slovakia game.

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/6/2016 8:58:45 PM   
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Quote of the week.

"...not for me to say where Wayne Rooney will play" and added: "Wayne played wherever he wanted to. I can't stop Wayne playing there.

I think that he holds a lot more experience at international football than me as an international manager. Using his experience with a team, playing as a team member, it's not for me to say where he is going to play." - Sam Allardyce after the Slovakia game.

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Best wishes,
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Why is he manager then, if he can not tell all the players how he want them to play?

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/6/2016 9:48:31 PM   
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Quote of the week.

"...not for me to say where Wayne Rooney will play" and added: "Wayne played wherever he wanted to. I can't stop Wayne playing there.

I think that he holds a lot more experience at international football than me as an international manager. Using his experience with a team, playing as a team member, it's not for me to say where he is going to play." - Sam Allardyce after the Slovakia game.

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Why is he manager then, if he can not tell all the players how he want them to play?


A very good question...

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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/7/2016 6:31:59 AM   
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Quote of the week.

"...not for me to say where Wayne Rooney will play" and added: "Wayne played wherever he wanted to. I can't stop Wayne playing there.

I think that he holds a lot more experience at international football than me as an international manager. Using his experience with a team, playing as a team member, it's not for me to say where he is going to play." - Sam Allardyce after the Slovakia game.

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Best wishes,
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Why is he manager then, if he can not tell all the players how he want them to play?
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Well as someone who was quite pleased that Allardyce was given the job, I have to say that comment is nothing short of depressing.

Personally I do not think Rooney should even make the starting XI the way he is playing at the moment - over hit crosses, mis-placed passes and that was against Slovakia! Moreover, despite his experience and trophies won, Rooney was completely clueless as to how to change the game against Iceland. What sort of captain, what sort of leader is that?

But Big Sam rates him and I just hope what is said in public (in support of his captain) is not what Allardyce is actually saying in private.



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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/7/2016 10:01:12 PM   
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/07/tottenham-could-one-day-hosy-a-nfl-franchise-says-chairman-daneil-levy

"White Hart Lane redevelopment caters for American football
We welcome co-operation with the NFL and a dedicated team, says Levy

Tottenham’s chairman Daniel Levy hopes a London NFL franchise will one day take up a permanent home at the Premier League club’s new stadium.

The area around White Hart Lane is in the process of extensive redevelopment as Spurs build a new 61,000-seat venue – part of the Northumberland Development Project – which is set to include facilities for American football such as a retractable grass pitch with a synthetic playing surface. A 10-year partnership is already in place which will see two NFL matches a year hosted at their new home, which is scheduled to open for the start of the 2018-19 season."

Tottenham fans might finally get a real team to cheer for! (Complete with NFL cheerleaders)




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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/14/2016 8:19:34 PM   
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RE: All things Football (soccer) related - 9/14/2016 10:08:46 PM   
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Time to get tough Mr P - Goodbye Son and Lamela in January and time to start dropping Eriksen, Alli and Kane.

Seriously worried about Kane now. He has been awful since one month before the end of last season - and no signs of any improvement.

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