Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: terje439

Having spent some hours on Civ VI so far, theese are my three cons and pros about the game as it stands today;

PRO
1. The new district system. Some "buildings" now has to be placed on the world map, which means those ehxes can not be worked for food anymore. The same goes for Wonders. This means that unlike in previous civ games, you tend to not build all the stuff in every city, nor do you end up with citied that spams out wonders.

2. Requirements for wonders. Some wonders must be built on deserts, some must be built on the coast, some needs to be built next to both a river and a economy district. This means that you now have to plan ahead for some wonders. Makes it feel more like a proper wonder to me.

3. Governments. You unluck certain types of governments (ogliarchy, monarhy, early republic, etc). These governments then have a set number of card slots within different categories (economy, military etc). You then chose from cards you have unlocked through research to place in those card slots. This means that a "monarchy" is not just a monarchy, you get to alter the bonuses you get from your monarchy to suit your own needs. A really good system imo.


CON
1. Typos. A game as big as this, really should have typos removed before release. Not good enough.

2. Bugs. There are some in here. I've not encountered any game breaking ones yet, but there are some weird ones. I've seen myself being denounced by....myself. Appearantly this happens when an unmet civilization denounces you. But if they have not met me, how can they denounce me?

3. This one I am not sure if I should include or not, but I am adding it here nonetheless.
The early AI agression. This has to be the first time in 20+ years of playing civilization that I have lost a city to the AI in the first 50 turns on marathon. Others report this as well. The AI will come at you in the early game if your defences are not good enough. Although it sort of makes sense (you should be able to protect yourself before expanding), I think that it might be somewhat crippeling in the higher difficulty games where the AI starts with an extra settler, and you need to start to expand somewhat early. Now that is a very good way to get attacked by the AI. So, I am not sure untill I have played more games, as to wether this belongs as a con or not, but right now, it feels like one.



Terje

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ORIGINAL: Zorch

http://www.civfanatics.com/2016/10/27/civ6-reviews-roundup/

Civfanatics has a round up of reviews.

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ORIGINAL: altipueri

Wise men say "Only fools run an empire without luxuries, king."

Just got a Acer Revo One win 8.1 PC from Staples for £118 incl VAT. Found I can get CIV2 working with animated advisers - hence the above quote.

I don't need no stinking fancy cartoon graphics - which is just as well because 4gb RAM 1.4ghz won't run Civ 6 will it?

It must be an age thing - Civ went wrong with Civ4 for me. I even got 5 on Steam, but have only played a hour or so.


PS - Using Classic Shell and win 8.1 is fine for low spec office stuff. Most of my old Matrix games work.

PPS - for Linux guys - I also got a Linux laptop from Dell - £200 including delivery with Ubuntu pre-installed. About 50 quid cheaper than same spec with widows 10.


Now, time for a coffee break and one more turn. This working from home is great, no work done of course.

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ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

Well, looks like I'll have to get this game now! Dilbert creator Scott Adams has a quote in the game that some crazies don't like...actually they don't like that Scott Adams is quoted because he's a very evil human being!

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: Qwixt
I think my Civ days are over. I have the latest Civ 6, thanks to a gift card from work, and it doesn't really hold my interest.

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ORIGINAL: Qwixt

It seems to me that the player is forced down the military path for the most part due to defending against barbs and looking weak if you do not build a decent army. Just my very initial impressions.

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ORIGINAL: altipueri

Just got a Acer Revo One win 8.1 PC from Staples for £118 incl VAT. Found I can get CIV2 working with animated advisers - hence the above quote.

I don't need no stinking fancy cartoon graphics - which is just as well because 4gb RAM 1.4ghz won't run Civ 6 will it?

It must be an age thing - Civ went wrong with Civ4 for me. I even got 5 on Steam, but have only played a hour or so.

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ORIGINAL: rosseau

I can't believe they didn't include the in-game editor in a $60 product. This is a standard feature from the IV series and should not have been just dropped or left for a patch. Looking at various sources, it is no smash hit, but apparently few bugs.

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ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

It's looking like I will be passing on Civ 6. You guys are fairly good at tearing into a game and exposing the details that count.

I'm not in a hurry to get a game my system will just barely manage on the lowest settings. and it appears the game will not be worth the effort until they've gotten around making a major add on for it. Seems like this is the norm for Civ since Civ 3.

Money is derned scarce here and my gaming intensity is kinda lame. I'm waiting to see how SC3 does on it's opening months. Plus I continue to have an interest in Panzer Corps and Tigers on the Hunt. If I'm buying a game it has to be more than a tweaked version of what I already have, it has to deliver something special. Civ 6 doesn't look like it has earned my interest yet if your comments are on the money. And I have others who have been on a list longer :)

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Well if I had a computer that could run the game I would have bought it Day 1 on the off chance (despite my repeated protestations that I won't go down that road again ).

But my computer can't handle it so that problem doesn't exist

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ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

I'm not in a hurry to get a game my system will just barely manage on the lowest settings. and it appears the game will not be worth the effort until they've gotten around making a major add on for it. Seems like this is the norm for Civ since Civ 3.

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ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

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ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

I'm not in a hurry to get a game my system will just barely manage on the lowest settings. and it appears the game will not be worth the effort until they've gotten around making a major add on for it. Seems like this is the norm for Civ since Civ 3.

At least in case of Civ4, original/vanilla game is simplier and easier to learn, and I have seen recommendations to play it first before Beyond the Sword. I managed BtS only by reading the manuals and playing the tutorial in vanilla game. Still Civ4:BtS reinforced with Caveman 2 Cosmos mod is overwhelming experience for me, and I strongly recommend to start Civ4 experience without that near gigabyte sized monster mod.

Now let me tell you about Caveman 2 Cosmos. New game starts at 50k BC. Earliest available units are Brute and Stone Thrower. After some research, player gets such units as Wanderer (precedes Scout), Chaser, Clubman, Spiked Clubman, Slinger. First city has health<unhealth and pop won't increase until after +10k years of research (herbalism, controlled fire, cooking) and construction of buildings & their equivalents (Berry Bushes, Childbirth Hut, Wet Nurse Hut, Fire Pit). It could be some 10k BC or later before I get Settlers to create more cities. Towards end of the game tech tree will provide such units as Cyborg and Hi-Tech Robot.

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ORIGINAL: gekkoguy82

I guess I'm the weird one here. I'm really, really enjoying my time with it thus far. The AI does some wonky things and barbarians can be vexing, sure, but I'm still loving it. Everything from the music, to the little details of your districts and wonders being constructed and worked just suck me in. The old school map parchment fog of war. And for some reason I love having the clock in the upper right hand corner of the screen. I guess then I can see how much longer I've played than I originally intended to

As with anything in life, I suppose, to each his own.