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OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:AE pe... - 11/24/2016 11:13:52 PM

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Anyone here have any opinions on how War Plan Orange compares to WitP? Gameplay? Complexity? Longevity? For some reason, the forums there are dead relative to here. Opponents wanted has three posts. Is there some other place where all the action is? From what I can make out, WPO and WitP use the same engine, and essentially (or at least primary) it is just the different platforms and technology. So why the dramatic difference in interest/following?

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/25/2016 12:04:11 AM

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You are talking about two things. WPO "and WITP are dated platforms. When you come to this forum you are talking about WITP-Admirals Edition which is a whole other game. I doubt you will find anybody playing WITP these days. As for WPO, it had a small following when it came out but never gained any popularity and quickly fizzled out. The scenarios were fun but the campaign was just dull and tedious. Too much down time between action and no airplanes.

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/25/2016 10:59:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

You are talking about two things. WPO "and WITP are dated platforms. When you come to this forum you are talking about WITP-Admirals Edition which is a whole other game. I doubt you will find anybody playing WITP these days. As for WPO, it had a small following when it came out but never gained any popularity and quickly fizzled out. The scenarios were fun but the campaign was just dull and tedious. Too much down time between action and no airplanes.

Thanks. Ok, that explains quite a bit, especially the disparity in apparent enthusiasm!

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/26/2016 3:09:08 PM

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If you have not got WITP AE, it is on sale this weekend for a very good price.

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/26/2016 4:41:30 PM

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If you have not got WITP AE, it is on sale this weekend for a very good price.

For better or worse, I've not only got, by been instantly hooked to the point of obsession by WitPAE for the last couple of months now ...

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/26/2016 5:13:56 PM

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War Plan Orange suffers from 2 things:
1) No long range airplanes for spotting or recon, so rarely do you get any new information on enemy movements. This means you can make a plan on turn X and by X+5 there has been no reason to issue any new orders. Essentially you sit still processing turn after turn.

2) Ships move slower than War in the Pacific. This means many more turns (of little activity) are needed between for example sending out a troop convoy and the start of an invasion.

These two things combine to make a War Plan Orange campaign rather dull. It really needed some sort of accelerated turn processing between action periods, but that would have needed significant changes to the game engine, whereas War Plan Orange was made as a simple reuse of War in the Pacific.

There are still players playing War in the Pacific, but at least on these forums the Admirals Edition forum is far more active. Of course we only get to see players who post online, who are probably a minority of total players of each game.

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/29/2016 12:01:43 AM

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If you have not got WITP AE, it is on sale this weekend for a very good price.

For better or worse, I've not only got, by been instantly hooked to the point of obsession by WitPAE for the last couple of months now ...

Yes, yes, another has been grasped.

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/29/2016 1:05:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: rustysi

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ORIGINAL: glyphoglossus

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

If you have not got WITP AE, it is on sale this weekend for a very good price.

For better or worse, I've not only got, by been instantly hooked to the point of obsession by WitPAE for the last couple of months now ...

Yes, yes, another has been grasped.

Welcome to Hades glyphoglossus! Abandon hope and all that ...

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/29/2016 2:06:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: rustysi

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ORIGINAL: glyphoglossus

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

If you have not got WITP AE, it is on sale this weekend for a very good price.

For better or worse, I've not only got, by been instantly hooked to the point of obsession by WitPAE for the last couple of months now ...

Yes, yes, another has been grasped.

Welcome to Hades glyphoglossus! Abandon hope and all that ...

Edit:The little guy banging his head on the computer desk really got me. Appropriate indeed.

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/29/2016 4:11:25 AM

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The best thing about WPO is that several members of the forum are ship captains in that game.

It is a lot simpler than WITP or AE because of the lesser importance of the aircraft in it but as everyone else mentioned there will be a lot of turns with absolutely nothing happening.

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/29/2016 7:35:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: rustysi
Yes, yes, another has been grasped.

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Welcome to Hades glyphoglossus! Abandon hope and all that ...

I'm sure I can leave anytime I want ...

Or ... can I?

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You can check-out any time you like,
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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/29/2016 9:19:19 PM

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I'm sure I can leave anytime I want ...

Absolutely.

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/30/2016 6:34:31 AM

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1) No long range airplanes for spotting or recon, so rarely do you get any new information on enemy movements. This means you can make a plan on turn X and by X+5 there has been no reason to issue any new orders. Essentially you sit still processing turn after turn.

2) Ships move slower than War in the Pacific. This means many more turns (of little activity) are needed between for example sending out a troop convoy and the start of an invasion.

Why you don't simply set 2 or even 3 days for turn in the options? It makes for a faster game and simulates - even if roughly - the delay in C&C typical of the era.

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RE: OT (sorta): War Plan Orange Opinions (from a WitP:A... - 11/30/2016 7:58:04 PM

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Why you don't simply set 2 or even 3 days for turn in the options? It makes for a faster game and simulates - even if roughly - the delay in C&C typical of the era.

Just because:
1) I'm used to playing WitP 1 day at a time
2) I want to be able to respond when there is intelligence to respond to
3) Though I have no new orders to give doesn't mean the AI won't have new orders to give

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