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new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 11:29:31 AM   
zakblood


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Status: offline 		Kursk - Battle at Prochorovka 

http://store.steampowered.com/app/605200/


A fan of the old Avalon Hill/SPI WW2 strategy war games? Like to think about your next move rather than having quick reaction times? Battle Series Eastern Front - Kursk - Battle at Prochorovka is the game for you.

Battle Series Eastern Front - Kursk - Battle at Prochorovka, covers one of largest single tank battle in the history of warfare. Approximately 1000 tanks and assault guns met head to head near the town of Prochorovka, in a battle that became a desperate close range shoot-out which would decide the ultimate success or failure of Operation Zitadelle.

The 2nd SS Panzer Korps began it's attack on July 3rd, and spent the next 8 days breaking through the dense Russian defensive positions. During the late afternoon and evening of the 11th, they broke through and repulsed a counterattack by the Russian 31st Tank Corps. Reorganizing during the night, the panzers struck northward before dawn on the 12th. As dawn broke, the lead German elements ran head-on into the lead elements of the Soviet 5th Guards Tank Army and the battle was on. It was to last all day, in confused and savage fighting at close ranges.

This game recreates that day with the player being able to play both as the Russians and Germans or against the AI.

Turn Based with each turn having a Move and Attack phase
Units are at battalion level and represent the units present on the day of the battle
Units have an Attack, Defense and Movement Allowance
Artillery units also have a Range allowance
Map represents the key features at the time with the embanked railway line and river causing the fighting to be fought almost as three separate battles
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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 11:33:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		atm it's on EA, so early access so not all the features on in, but it's a board game in all ways, with the same layout and options, but plays like the Drive On Moscow game in many ways, just a different battle in scale and scope.

programmed in Java, it's fast and plays very well, hot seat mode only atm, but price is low, but quality is high, one to watch and see how it develops over time in EA.







i'd recommend it to anyone who enjoys Drive On Moscow and that sort of level of game play, as while some stuff is covered, others are abstracted atm, no idea if it will be added later or not, so FOW isn't atm, but LOS is, but not sure on ZOC either, so WIP on all counts tbh...

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 1:30:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Certainly has the kind of map art I like best. Will keep an eye on this for when they've got an AI.

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 2:12:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you Zak, will pull the trigger on this one

Some history...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Prokhorovka

http://warfarehistorynetwork.com/daily/wwii/the-battle-of-kursk-showdown-at-prokhorovka-and-oboian/

Cheers!

On Steam as (Red2112)

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 2:27:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		np,. add me if you like username is the same on steam zakblood

enjoy and see you on steam

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 2:32:01 PM   
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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 2:44:44 PM   
zakblood


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Status: offline 		it's EA, so still has some development to still do, like AI and other stuff to add, but i've done 6 hours on it today, so feel i've had my money's worth out of it already, and it can only get better, no idea who the maker is, as there new to me and only found out about it myself today, as a friend posted it on my wall, so credit goes to him for finding it tbh, but he's not on here so little point in mentioning him either, but on steam he develops games as well, but they're not connected in any way.

so your welcome

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 3:05:50 PM   
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Warfare? Syrian Warfare is cool too but undergoing some legal issues at the moment, will be back on store the 15th they say. GOG has World in Conflict for $3ish and Door Knockers $2ish. Just for the record

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 3:24:17 PM   
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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 3:47:35 PM   
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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 3:53:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		AFAIK, neither Nashorn panzerjägers nor Panthers were attached to the Waffen SS that fought at Prokorowka. They should fix that.

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 4:02:25 PM   
zakblood


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Status: offline 		well the developer is a good guy or seems to be anyway, and is open to comments, just give him the information and he may amend it, or it's abstracted etc, as there are some what if type battles planned, this maybe just be one of them in early release, either way i'm not sure

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Early Access Game
Get instant access and start playing; get involved with this game as it develops.
Note: This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development. Learn more
WHAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE TO SAY:
Why Early Access?
“I am a big fan of strategy games and know the level of perfection needed to attain the best player experience, game flow and game systems. This can only be achieved with thorough testing and iteration. Simply put, I need experienced and passionate strategy players to make "Kursk - Battle at Prochorovka" the best it can be!”
Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
“Dependent on community feedback I plan to exit Early Access in June 2017 once the AI feature is complete. During Early Access I will provide updates should any critical bugs be found and when a version of the game with sufficiently developed AI is available.”
How is the full version planned to differ from the Early Access version?
“The full version will support one player game v computer AI. This is missing in the Early Access version. Once complete a player will be able to choose to play against another player (via hot seat play) or solo against the AI.

In addition more help screens and in game pops ups will be provided in the full version to assist the novice player.

I also intend to include some scenario variants to the game to allow the player to play some "What if" scenarios.

The game presently autosaves. In the full version the player will be able to save additional games to load at a later date.”
What is the current state of the Early Access version?
“The game is fully playable and feature complete as a two player hot seat game, one playing the Germans and the other Russians.

This version of the game has been tested and is stable.

The game presently autosaves at the end of each turn (in Full version player will also be able to generate their own saved games)”
Will the game be priced differently during and after Early Access?
“Yes. The Early Access version is cheaper than the full release as a thank you to you for being an early adopter of the game.”
How are you planning on involving the Community in your development process?
“I welcome feedback! I love making games like this and I know there are many of you that do so to. Together we can play games that we are passionate about.”


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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 4:04:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Zak! It does look good...here is developers website.
http://www.yobowargames.com/

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/11/2017 4:12:17 PM   
zakblood


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Status: offline 		well 6 hours in and only one bug found, so WIP and one odd spelling mistake, but then again that's from a dyslexic (me) so there maybe more, but enjoying it so far and look forward to what's going to be added next.

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early access to some is good as you can if the developers are good one, alter and shape the game you buy into and help with others to mold it into a better game, in your opinion, as others may not like what you suggest, but this is life, it's like alpha or beta testing, except you buy and don't offer your help for free.

so it's not for everyone, some feel it's too rough and too early a release on some games, while others like the input and feedback offered as it's a two way street with some EA developers, so it's good, but while i like the chance, i wouldn't say it's totally for everyone either, as most won't like the times when you can't progress and move on, while you wait for a given patch etc etc.

so think before you leap, and make your own mind up what works and what doesn't work for you...

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/12/2017 7:52:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: U2

AFAIK, neither Nashorn panzerjägers nor Panthers were attached to the Waffen SS that fought at Prokorowka. They should fix that. 


https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/118029-the-battle-of-kursk-facts-and-fiction/


this is all i could find, so i have posted it and will see what he says on it, thanks











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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/12/2017 10:50:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here´s a Order of Battle...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk_order_of_battle

More info...
http://tankarchives.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/world-of-tanks-history-section.html

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/13/2017 12:28:46 AM   
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AFAIK, neither Nashorn panzerjägers nor Panthers were attached to the Waffen SS that fought at Prokorowka. They should fix that.

Not sure I'm seeing everything but while they do have Panthers involved, I couldn't see a Nashorn. You might be mistaking the Hummel for a Nashorn... or I'm missing it.

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/13/2017 12:35:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like the way the game looks. Keep us posted when it's ready.

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/13/2017 7:20:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		You called it a board game. Does the computer do the calculations?

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/13/2017 4:28:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: U2

AFAIK, neither Nashorn panzerjägers nor Panthers were attached to the Waffen SS that fought at Prokorowka. They should fix that.

Not sure I'm seeing everything but while they do have Panthers involved, I couldn't see a Nashorn. You might be mistaking the Hummel for a Nashorn... or I'm missing it.


The gun looks like an anti-tank gun and not the 150mm the Hummel had. Or am I missing something? I'm not an expert on the Nashorn/Hummel.


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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/13/2017 4:30:40 PM   
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Thanks!

Also:

The KV looks like a KV 85 and not the KVs that were in service 1943

The german infantry looks like a Winter uniform? It does not matter if I am right or wrong since it simply is not a Waffen SS uniform.




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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/13/2017 4:38:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also, quite sure those eight Wheel Reece vehicles (SdKfz 234 family) were not in service with the Wehrmacht during the summer of 1943. More like 1944.45 vehicles??

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/13/2017 7:56:27 PM   
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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 3/14/2017 12:06:09 AM   
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The dev plans to add NATO symbols and PBEM too.

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 5/22/2017 10:47:27 AM   
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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 5/22/2017 2:45:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		You might all like to take a look at this designers/companies first wargame on Operation Typhoon

https://gamejolt.com/games/operation-typhoon/224946

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 5/22/2017 3:54:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Alan Sharif

You might all like to take a look at this designers/companies first wargame on Operation Typhoon

https://gamejolt.com/games/operation-typhoon/224946



Thanks. Downloading now.



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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 5/22/2017 8:58:41 PM   
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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 5/30/2017 9:03:17 AM   
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re downloading steam games atm to another test pc





only another 100gb to go

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RE: new board game on steam, yes steam - 5/30/2017 12:41:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Like the color and details on those counters, look really nice. Wouldn't mind playing something like this in the Pacific.

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