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ORIGINAL: Hermann

my argument is the same as always. Supply. Rail is the only way to carry supply and rail lines have a capacity. unlimited supply to a point at the end of a rail line has to stop to avoid the insanity of 30-40 panzer divisions fully supplied at the end of 1000 mile line rail line with 2 tracks. a system of depot counters is the best option with supply actually traveling to the counters and a real capacity in the depots

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ORIGINAL: Hermann

my argument is the same as always. Supply. Rail is the only way to carry supply and rail lines have a capacity. unlimited supply to a point at the end of a rail line has to stop to avoid the insanity of 30-40 panzer divisions fully supplied at the end of 1000 mile line rail line with 2 tracks. a system of depot counters is the best option with supply actually traveling to the counters and a real capacity in the depots

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ORIGINAL: Platypus

@ Red Lancer: I am interested in how you include individual leaders like this into the gameplay?
Example: Does he, as the CO add substantial morale to his unit, or are the combat modifiers adjusted in other ways. Most importantly, how do you still ensure game balance??

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ORIGINAL: Hermann

I've been spamming history forums for eons - the economics thread on axis history was my brainchild and took a substantial donation to implement. I love the whole economic warfare element and would love to see the rhg commands brought into play more effectively. depots and repair facilities were an enormous part of strategy, I think studying the strategic air war and doing a reverse analysis is helpful. canals are a great economic tool along with river shipping but not really applicable to the game they mainly moved bulk goods like coal and agricultural products not troops. a rail line has a capacity of how much weight per track section that's quickly eroded with frequent use rail cars averaged 29 tons and trains about 400 tons. the daily needs of a German division were 200 to 400 tons average for medium duty, putting 40 to 60 divisions at the end of a single rail line would require 12 to 18000 tons a day or roughly 30 to 45 fully loaded trains daily in each direction for 60 to 90 trains total. trains don't make the whole trip. they did roughly 40 mph so assume 400 miles for a 10 hour day, the train then needs to be unloaded and serviced so roughly 3 trains per day per 400 mile section 1 enroute 1 reloading and 1 returning.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=speed+of+german+military+trains+in+ww2+russia&view=detail&mid=72C1A9D582C4C0D4E52472C1A9D582C4C0D4E524&FORM=VIRE

https://forum.axishistory.com//viewtopic.php?t=203286

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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

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ORIGINAL: Platypus

@ Red Lancer: I am interested in how you include individual leaders like this into the gameplay?
Example: Does he, as the CO add substantial morale to his unit, or are the combat modifiers adjusted in other ways. Most importantly, how do you still ensure game balance??

We are able to add him as we added named pilots in WitW alongside Commanders. Leadership rolls only effect HQ Commanders at Fliegerkorps and above so Rudel would need to be added as a pilot. That is simple and I did it in less time than it took to do this post. I've added him as a very skilled pilot so he'll be pretty good. Balance is achieved using knowledge of how the system behaves and a lot of testing. This is one reason why developing these games takes so long.

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ORIGINAL: NPichler

+1 Platypus and Hermann.

Guess I have some reading to do.

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ORIGINAL: HermanGraf

When we getting the entire war?

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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

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ORIGINAL: Platypus

@ Red Lancer: I am interested in how you include individual leaders like this into the gameplay?
Example: Does he, as the CO add substantial morale to his unit, or are the combat modifiers adjusted in other ways. Most importantly, how do you still ensure game balance??

We are able to add him as we added named pilots in WitW alongside Commanders. Leadership rolls only effect HQ Commanders at Fliegerkorps and above so Rudel would need to be added as a pilot. That is simple and I did it in less time than it took to do this post. I've added him as a very skilled pilot so he'll be pretty good. Balance is achieved using knowledge of how the system behaves and a lot of testing. This is one reason why developing these games takes so long.

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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

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ORIGINAL: Hermann

my argument is the same as always. Supply. Rail is the only way to carry supply and rail lines have a capacity. unlimited supply to a point at the end of a rail line has to stop to avoid the insanity of 30-40 panzer divisions fully supplied at the end of 1000 mile line rail line with 2 tracks. a system of depot counters is the best option with supply actually traveling to the counters and a real capacity in the depots

WitE2 uses an improved version of the WitW logistics system. Freight movement is tracked along rails and competes with unit movement. Congestion imposes higher costs although the new double rail lines provide higher capacity. Depot capacity is also variable. The Panzer Ball is no longer a good tactic and major advances have to exploit good communications.

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ORIGINAL: martinsmit

Hi everyone!
I'm new here, but I play a long time in WitE, and I have a question.
The developers of the WitE2 and WitE (after patch 1.07.11) are the same people?
IMHO in WitE after patch 1.07.11 the balance of the system CV (and not only) is severely disturbed
Thanks!

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In order to receive supply, a combat unit first attempts to trace a path to the headquarters unit to which it is attached. The combat unit must
be within both five hexes and twenty MPs of the applicable headquarters unit. In order for a headquarters unit to provide supply to its
attached combat and support units, it in turn must be within both 25 hexes and 100 MPs of a railhead. If a combat unit cannot trace an
eligible path to its headquarters unit, it will then attempt to trace a path to a railhead as if it was a headquarters unit, i.e. within both 25
hexes and 100 MPs of the railhead. Note that Air base and Rail repair units, though HQ units, are treated as combat units for supply purposes
per the above. Also note the distinction between supply state and tracing supply, in that a unit that is within 100 MPs, but not within 25
hexes, is considered in supply, but nonetheless, will not be able to receive supply due to exceeding the 25 hex requirement.

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The following conditions have to be met so supplies can flow from the railhead to the HQ and from there to the units:
1. MP distance unit-HQ: <21MPs (not taken into account if the hexagon distance is <2)
2. Hexagon distance unit-HQ: <6hexagons
3. MP distance eligible HQ-railhead: <101MPs
4. Hexagon distance HQ-railhead: <26hexagons
Therefore, the maximum distance from the railhead which still allows unit resupply is <31hexagons and <121MPs.
If the conditions 3&4 are not fulfilled, the subordinate unit can still be supplied from the dumps which existed in the HQ unit. The conditions 1&2 still have to be fulfilled in this case.

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Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere else, but is WITE 2 slated for 2017?

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ORIGINAL: Tejszd

Definitely would like more historical options for replay ability and possibly play balance.

Germans attack early Apr. - Germans attack Greece (Apr. 6) and Russia together so have less units and supply buildup
Germans attack mid May - Germans quickly attack after Greece falls (Apr. 30) with less supply buildup and don't wait for Crete to fall (Jun. 1)
Germans friendlier to locals - reduced Russian partisan activity/support
Russian military purges reduced - better leadership/morale
Russian readiness increased - Stalin not worried about provoking the Germans (builds forts and or HQ supply buildup)
Non-Random Weather - we already have
Reduced Blizzard - we already have

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